Re: [e-users] how to start enlightenment ? (from debian experimental)

2017-02-04 Thread The Rasterman 
On Sat, 04 Feb 2017 23:01:30 + Mick  said:

> On Saturday 04 Feb 2017 11:25:19 Christopher Barry wrote:
> > On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 22:40:34 +0900
> > 
> > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)  wrote:
> > >On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 07:04:15 +0100 nous  said:
> > >> OK, Thank you.
> > >> 
> > >> I thought that with wayland, X was not necessary
> > >
> > >for wayland mode - yes. just enlightenment_start will do the job. of
> > >course this requires systemd (and a logind login session) to be able
> > >to get permission to the right devices... :)
> > 
> > As an aside, does Enlightenment /depend/ upon systemd if not in
> > wayland mode?
> 
> No, I 've been running it here with OpenRC on Gentoo, very nicely.  :-)

though you may have to edit sysactions.conf (PREFIX/etc/enlightenment/) to make
things like suspend/shutdown/etc. work right. if you have systemd, e will talk
to it and use it to do these actions (and query if they are possible).


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Re: [e-users] Menu inoperative after resume

2017-02-04 Thread The Rasterman 
On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 23:08:53 + Peter Flynn  said:

> Before I file this, does anyone know if it's been reported (I can't find
> it, but I am notoriously bad at finding other people's bug reports
> because they use different words to describe things :-)
> 
> When I click on the caret menu (LH end of shelf before thermometer) and
> pick System > Suspend, the laptop correctly suspends.
> 
> After resuming with the power button, everything seems to work, except
> that all items in that System menu are inoperative (Lock, Log out,
> Suspend, Reboot, Power off); that is, clicking on them does nothing at
> all (and the disk light does not even flicker).

e. ummm it sounds like e still things a current system action is
underway and isn't complete yet. beyond adding lots of printfs to e_sys.c to
find out the logic flow.. i don't know why this happens to you. it works
perfectly for me.

i guess does e_sys_action_do() get called when you select to
suspend/logout/whatever after a suspend+resume? if so what does it do
internally? is there a current action? follow the breadcumbs. down into
_e_sys_action_do() and so on.

> I am using the Enlightenment 0.21.99.22030 I compiled from github a few
> weeks ago on a Dell Latitude D810.

github? you know our official git repose are not on github.

> Right-click on background and all related menus seem to work normally;
> other items in the shelf also working normally.
> 
> (Possibly unrelated) System > Hibernate is blacked out for some reason,

that's probably because your os is systemd related and systemd reports that
hibernation is not possible.

> perhaps because E believes it has detected that this facility is not
> available. Indeed the hardware function Fn + F1 (labelled in blue
> Hibernate) does nothing, and Fn + Esc ["Standby"] is also inoperative.

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Re: [e-users] Menu inoperative after resume

2017-02-04 Thread Daniel Kasak 
I have slightly different symptoms, that may be related. I have a
keybinding set up for suspending ( Win + S ). After suspending, I
can't suspend via this keybinding ( or menu: System ==> Suspend ).
Restarting E ( CTRL + Alt + End ) fixes things. It's a minor annoyance
under X. It's more drastic under Wayland, as most of my apps get
killed when I restart E.

Dan

On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Peter Flynn  wrote:
> Before I file this, does anyone know if it's been reported (I can't find
> it, but I am notoriously bad at finding other people's bug reports
> because they use different words to describe things :-)
>
> When I click on the caret menu (LH end of shelf before thermometer) and
> pick System > Suspend, the laptop correctly suspends.
>
> After resuming with the power button, everything seems to work, except
> that all items in that System menu are inoperative (Lock, Log out,
> Suspend, Reboot, Power off); that is, clicking on them does nothing at
> all (and the disk light does not even flicker).
>
> I am using the Enlightenment 0.21.99.22030 I compiled from github a few
> weeks ago on a Dell Latitude D810.
>
> Right-click on background and all related menus seem to work normally;
> other items in the shelf also working normally.
>
> (Possibly unrelated) System > Hibernate is blacked out for some reason,
> perhaps because E believes it has detected that this facility is not
> available. Indeed the hardware function Fn + F1 (labelled in blue
> Hibernate) does nothing, and Fn + Esc ["Standby"] is also inoperative.
>
> ///Peter
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Re: [e-users] how to start enlightenment ? (from debian experimental)

2017-02-04 Thread Mick 
On Saturday 04 Feb 2017 11:25:19 Christopher Barry wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 22:40:34 +0900
> 
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)  wrote:
> >On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 07:04:15 +0100 nous  said:
> >> OK, Thank you.
> >> 
> >> I thought that with wayland, X was not necessary
> >
> >for wayland mode - yes. just enlightenment_start will do the job. of
> >course this requires systemd (and a logind login session) to be able
> >to get permission to the right devices... :)
> 
> As an aside, does Enlightenment /depend/ upon systemd if not in
> wayland mode?

No, I 've been running it here with OpenRC on Gentoo, very nicely.  :-)

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Re: [e-users] how to start enlightenment ? (from debian experimental)

2017-02-04 Thread Christopher Barry 
On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 22:40:34 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)  wrote:

>On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 07:04:15 +0100 nous  said:
>
>> OK, Thank you.
>> 
>> I thought that with wayland, X was not necessary  
>
>for wayland mode - yes. just enlightenment_start will do the job. of
>course this requires systemd (and a logind login session) to be able
>to get permission to the right devices... :)
>

As an aside, does Enlightenment /depend/ upon systemd if not in
wayland mode?

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Re: [e-users] how to start enlightenment ? (from debian experimental)

2017-02-04 Thread The Rasterman 
On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 07:04:15 +0100 nous  said:

> OK, Thank you.
> 
> I thought that with wayland, X was not necessary

for wayland mode - yes. just enlightenment_start will do the job. of course
this requires systemd (and a logind login session) to be able to get permission
to the right devices... :)

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