Re: [e-users] multiple terminology windows

[The Rasterman]

On Sun, 1 Apr 2018 18:04:31 +0200 Massimo Maiurana  said:

> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 26/03/2018 alle 07:24:
> > looks like you found a bug. you have enabled "multiple in stances one
> > process" an that should mean running terminology multiple times just
> > results in 1 terminology process but multiple windows from it as if you had
> > multiple terminology processes around.
> 
> It would be useful if running it multiple times would result in having
> multiple tabs inside a single window, instead of multiple windows. At
> least for me :)

you can just open up a new tab then im your existing terminal... the point of
this feature is to save memory with a single instance of the process only but
to otherwise appear to work as if you ran multiple process instances (ie opened
multiple windows). why don't you just open a new tab in the existing window you
want it in? any reason that doesn't work for you?

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Re: [e-users] e22.0 upgrade, sigh...

[Carsten Haitzler]

On Sun, 1 Apr 2018 12:21:28 -0700 Marc MERLIN  said:

> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 10:14:12AM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> > I'm also using intel graphics. I didn't touch anything on my laptop
> > except upgrading X, and now this started misbehaving.
> 
> Huge typo, I meant 'upgrading E'. X was not upgraded. Nothing was
> upgraded except E.

h. indeed a big typo. made a big difference. i kind of auto-corrected this
to "i upgraded x AND upgraded e to 0.22".

> On Sun, Apr 01, 2018 at 11:58:32AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > under compositor settings in advanced there is "dont fade backlight". but
> > then e wont dim your backlight on screensaver timeout etc. and your
> > backlight will stay on etc.
>  
> Found it, thank you. I'm ok enough with dpms turning the screen off
> without any other fanciness.
> 
> > > Right, so this is definitely unreliable on my laptop.
> > > How do I turn this off?
> > 
> > you don't. well not in settings. you modify the theme. again - i am
> > wondering if this is an xorg bug that is somehow dropping cursor changes
> > from e during resume along with backlight change requests.
>  
> It could be an X bug triggered by the dimming the E is doing. Now that I
> turned that off, I'll hopefully be ok.

currently my suspicions are it's an x bug, unless somehow e is messing up its
internal state ... but even then - for the cursors, it'll emit a signal
multiple times which will actually just result in the previous animation
cancelling and a new one starting. i can't think of how the cursor "not
changing at all" could be triggering here other than updates to the cursor
during resume being ignored for some reason because the xserver woke up and was
"doing things".

i did shorten the delay on resume before e begins doing its fade in... but the
fade in is the same as always. can you look at:

 src/bin/e_sys.c

these 2 lines in _e_sys_comp_resume():

 ecore_timer_add(0.3, _e_sys_screensaver_unignore_delay, NULL);
   ecore_timer_add(0.6, _e_sys_comp_resume2, NULL);

they used to be 0.5 and 1.5 respectively. can you change them back and see if
it works again? (and put back the backlight config you changed).

> > > What happened was that the E upgrade disabled my mixer gadget for
> > > unknown reasons. I had to find and re-install it.
> > > All good on that front now, thank you.
> > 
> > it should not have done that... unless it was going to totally deprecate the
> > shelf and migrate all your settings to the gadget bar...
>  
> Well, I guess that's what happened anyway :) but I was easily able to
> restore it after you pointed that out.
> 
> Thanks,
> Marc
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Re: [e-users] multiple terminology windows

[The Rasterman]

On Sun, 1 Apr 2018 13:51:57 -0400 Conrad Knight  said:

> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 10:48 PM, Carsten Haitzler 
> wrote:
> > 1. you enabled "only launch single instance" under settings->desktop
> > environments in enlightenment
> 
> Ugh, that was it! All fixed now. No idea how it got set, i hate that
> behaviour in other desktop/window managers...

i KNEW this had to be it... otherwise what you were reporting would make no
sense at all... :) this does save memory for sure. if you use a lot of
terminals - quite a chunk of it (can save 10's or 100's of mb). as i said...
efl managed to break this by breaking flushing of ipc messages. i fixed it
since in efl git master and it works again. :)

> Thanks for your help,
> -Conrad.
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Re: [e-users] e22.0 upgrade, sigh...

[Marc MERLIN]

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 10:14:12AM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> I'm also using intel graphics. I didn't touch anything on my laptop
> except upgrading X, and now this started misbehaving.

Huge typo, I meant 'upgrading E'. X was not upgraded. Nothing was
upgraded except E.

On Sun, Apr 01, 2018 at 11:58:32AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> under compositor settings in advanced there is "dont fade backlight". but then
> e wont dim your backlight on screensaver timeout etc. and your backlight will
> stay on etc.
 
Found it, thank you. I'm ok enough with dpms turning the screen off
without any other fanciness.

> > Right, so this is definitely unreliable on my laptop.
> > How do I turn this off?
> 
> you don't. well not in settings. you modify the theme. again - i am wondering
> if this is an xorg bug that is somehow dropping cursor changes from e during
> resume along with backlight change requests.
 
It could be an X bug triggered by the dimming the E is doing. Now that I
turned that off, I'll hopefully be ok.

> > What happened was that the E upgrade disabled my mixer gadget for
> > unknown reasons. I had to find and re-install it.
> > All good on that front now, thank you.
> 
> it should not have done that... unless it was going to totally deprecate the
> shelf and migrate all your settings to the gadget bar...
 
Well, I guess that's what happened anyway :) but I was easily able to
restore it after you pointed that out.

Thanks,
Marc
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Re: [e-users] multiple terminology windows

[Conrad Knight]

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 10:48 PM, Carsten Haitzler  wrote:
> 1. you enabled "only launch single instance" under settings->desktop
> environments in enlightenment

Ugh, that was it! All fixed now. No idea how it got set, i hate that
behaviour in other desktop/window managers...

Thanks for your help,
-Conrad.

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Re: [e-users] multiple terminology windows

[Massimo Maiurana]

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 26/03/2018 alle 07:24:
> looks like you found a bug. you have enabled "multiple in stances one process"
> an that should mean running terminology multiple times just results in 1
> terminology process but multiple windows from it as if you had multiple
> terminology processes around.

It would be useful if running it multiple times would result in having
multiple tabs inside a single window, instead of multiple windows. At
least for me :)

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Re: [e-users] multiple terminology windows

[Massimo Maiurana]

Conrad Knight ha scritto il 01/04/2018 alle 02:46:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 1:02 AM, Carsten Haitzler  
> wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 22:49:15 -0400 Conrad Knight  
>> said:
>>> Ok, rebooted. Now the desktop file is being read as usual on every
>>> login. But even with the -s flag, the problem persists.
>>
>> is it actually running terminology -s ?
> 
> As far as i can tell, selecting terminology from the applications menu
> doesn't run anything, just changes focus to the existing one. There's
> no additional process.

Is there a terminology process running? What do "ps aux | grep
terminology" tells you?


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