Re: [e-users] Enlightenment Display Manager

2018-06-20 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 20:48:32 +0200 "Roy Reese"  said:

> > Enviar: miƩrcoles 20 de junio de 2018 a las 3:26
> > De: "Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)" 
> 
> > > What display manager does enlightenment use ?
> > > I am trying to build enlightenment on wayland using yocto but the image
> > > doesn't boot up.
> > 
> > e doesn't use a display manager. "provide your own" so to speak. i know that
> > for wayland such things are currently rare and my thoughts are to actually
> > roll this into enlightenment itself so it has a "login mode" of some sort
> > since this is common enough and e already has some infra (lock screen
> > handling for your password), and that any login manager really needs a lot
> > of the functions of a full desktop session (screen dimming, brightness,
> > multiple-screen configuration, suspend/resume/shutdown/reboot, bluetooth
> > controls to connect kbd/mouse etc.). It does need restrictions though so
> > someone can't do "bad things" to an un-logged-in system (e.g. disable
> > unpairing, powering off of bt device, most of e's main menu should not be
> > there, etc.).
> > 
> > -- 
> Is this why Entrance seems to be maintained no longer? I have not bothered to

Well I didn't write entrance... so they aren't connected. Entrance long ago was
due for a rewrite I think but I don't know what happened there.

The above has been new musings mostly because of Wayland and at least my desire
to have a "seamless experience" where your login manager can work properly
without X and then seamlessly fade out to black, then your full normal login
session begin and fade in from black. Entrance was definitely an X login
manager and even if the X bits were removed or made optional, it'd still then
have to add more and more of the features above that are already in E, and that
just doesn't make a lot of sense to do.

> try to bring it into Mageia, but my old Manjaro setup I had it working rather
> nicely, even grabbing backgrounds from the themes to use in it.
> 
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Re: [e-users] Enlightenment Display Manager

2018-06-20 Thread Roy Reese
> Enviar: miƩrcoles 20 de junio de 2018 a las 3:26
> De: "Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)" 

> > What display manager does enlightenment use ?
> > I am trying to build enlightenment on wayland using yocto but the image
> > doesn't boot up.
> 
> e doesn't use a display manager. "provide your own" so to speak. i know that
> for wayland such things are currently rare and my thoughts are to actually 
> roll
> this into enlightenment itself so it has a "login mode" of some sort since 
> this
> is common enough and e already has some infra (lock screen handling for your
> password), and that any login manager really needs a lot of the functions of a
> full desktop session (screen dimming, brightness, multiple-screen
> configuration, suspend/resume/shutdown/reboot, bluetooth controls to connect
> kbd/mouse etc.). It does need restrictions though so someone can't do "bad
> things" to an un-logged-in system (e.g. disable unpairing, powering off of bt
> device, most of e's main menu should not be there, etc.).
> 
> -- 
Is this why Entrance seems to be maintained no longer? I have not bothered to 
try to bring it into Mageia, but my old Manjaro setup I had it working rather 
nicely, even grabbing backgrounds from the themes to use in it.

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Re: [e-users] Enlightenment Display Manager

2018-06-20 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 12:10:46 -0500 neena reddy  said:

> Hi,
> 
> What display manager does enlightenment use ?
> I am trying to build enlightenment on wayland using yocto but the image
> doesn't boot up.

e doesn't use a display manager. "provide your own" so to speak. i know that
for wayland such things are currently rare and my thoughts are to actually roll
this into enlightenment itself so it has a "login mode" of some sort since this
is common enough and e already has some infra (lock screen handling for your
password), and that any login manager really needs a lot of the functions of a
full desktop session (screen dimming, brightness, multiple-screen
configuration, suspend/resume/shutdown/reboot, bluetooth controls to connect
kbd/mouse etc.). It does need restrictions though so someone can't do "bad
things" to an un-logged-in system (e.g. disable unpairing, powering off of bt
device, most of e's main menu should not be there, etc.).

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