Re: [e-users] theme experiment - try a window wobble/jiggle when focused

[Jérémy Zurcher]

maybe, as i followed the disussion about lost cursors ...
have it to flash blue when it's first moved after a long timeout ?


On Thursday 19 January 2023  15:20, Carsten Haitzler wrote :
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 14:43:59 +0100 Jérémy Zurcher  said:
> 
> > I think it's perfect as in ef01c87b80
> > 
> > wobble was a bit too much, the blue flash is very nice,
> > nothing is visible on a maximized window, that's what I expected.
> 
> for maximized windows it's kind of not useful... it's maximized and likely the
> focused window... it's most useful if you have a lot of smaller windows. :)

what I tried to say with fewest words as possible ;)

> 
> > On Thursday 19 January 2023  12:17, daniel antoine wrote :
> > > habits die hard. I have tested the new experiment commit and again I
> > > am not a fan of the effect. When a window is maximized and you click
> > > on it the only effect is on the bottom of the window , you just see a
> > > flash on both sides of the E panel. What already exists is the change
> > > of color of the window title bar, black for the active window and a
> > > very dark grey for the other windows. The difference with the color is
> > > so subtle that I have not noticed it before the commit. A suggestion
> > > would be to a colored flash only in the title bar.
> > > 
> > > Best regards
> > > 
> > > Dania
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Le jeu. 19 janv. 2023 à 09:01, juanma1980--- via enlightenment-users
> > >  a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > Personally I like it a lot. It's subtle enough to not be disturbing and
> > > > at a same time gives good visual feedback. Option to disable or not...
> > > > well, everybody likes candy but I don't think it's mandatory to have.
> > > >
> > > > === In soft we trust ===
> > > >
> > > > January 16, 2023 at 8:59 PM, "Carsten Haitzler" 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 09:31:45 +0100 Carla Sensa  
> > > > > said:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I quite like this new feature. It's unobstructive and the whole
> > > > > > desktop feels more responsive (I don't see the "window doesn't stop
> > > > > > shaking" effect he is talking about though). But I agree with 
> > > > > > Daniel,
> > > > > > an on/off option would be nice.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > every option makes a theme extra complex to do. i have to have signals
> > > > > to tell the them to do something or not as it decides. it's using the
> > > > > focused signal to do the animation. to have state and options adds a
> > > > > lot more to te them to handle 2 more signals for state (do jiggle or
> > > > > not) and has to track/store state and fetch it and make a decision. 
> > > > > i'm
> > > > > not going to do that. i've added so so so many things to themes in the
> > > > > name of options and then everyone goes "themes are too complex to make
> > > > > - i dont want to make them". so ... i'm not going to add an option. it
> > > > > goes into the path of "fewer and fewer themes as it gets more and more
> > > > > complex".
> > > > >
> > > > > people can make a theme "fork" of default and disable this in it if
> > > > > they want. for now i'ts an experiment to give more feedback on what
> > > > > gets focused as it is actually hard to know what got focused. if all
> > > > > you see is a titlebar change color its very very little visual
> > > > > feedback. i could try other things like some blue rectangle glow 
> > > > > around
> > > > > the outside or something...
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Le 14/01/2023 à 17:58, daniel antoine a écrit :
> > > > > >  Hi
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  I have tried the last commit and I am going to remove it. On a 
> > > > > > laptop
> > > > > >  screen all the windows jiggling even the popup windows , I find it
> > > > > >  unpleasant for the eyes and I wear glasses. At a moment if you put
> > > > > > the cursor on the cross on the right upper side the window doesn't
> > > > > > stop shaking. As you w

Re: [e-users] theme experiment - try a window wobble/jiggle when focused

[Jérémy Zurcher]

I think it's perfect as in ef01c87b80

wobble was a bit too much, the blue flash is very nice,
nothing is visible on a maximized window, that's what I expected.

On Thursday 19 January 2023  12:17, daniel antoine wrote :
> habits die hard. I have tested the new experiment commit and again I
> am not a fan of the effect. When a window is maximized and you click
> on it the only effect is on the bottom of the window , you just see a
> flash on both sides of the E panel. What already exists is the change
> of color of the window title bar, black for the active window and a
> very dark grey for the other windows. The difference with the color is
> so subtle that I have not noticed it before the commit. A suggestion
> would be to a colored flash only in the title bar.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Dania
> 
> 
> Le jeu. 19 janv. 2023 à 09:01, juanma1980--- via enlightenment-users
>  a écrit :
> >
> > Personally I like it a lot. It's subtle enough to not be disturbing and at 
> > a same time gives good visual feedback. Option to disable or not... well, 
> > everybody likes candy but I don't think it's mandatory to have.
> >
> > === In soft we trust ===
> >
> > January 16, 2023 at 8:59 PM, "Carsten Haitzler"  
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 09:31:45 +0100 Carla Sensa  said:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I quite like this new feature. It's unobstructive and the whole desktop
> > > >  feels more responsive (I don't see the "window doesn't stop shaking"
> > > >  effect he is talking about though). But I agree with Daniel, an on/off
> > > >  option would be nice.
> > > >
> > >
> > > every option makes a theme extra complex to do. i have to have signals to 
> > > tell
> > > the them to do something or not as it decides. it's using the focused 
> > > signal to
> > > do the animation. to have state and options adds a lot more to te them to
> > > handle 2 more signals for state (do jiggle or not) and has to track/store 
> > > state
> > > and fetch it and make a decision. i'm not going to do that. i've added so 
> > > so
> > > so many things to themes in the name of options and then everyone goes 
> > > "themes
> > > are too complex to make - i dont want to make them". so ... i'm not going 
> > > to
> > > add an option. it goes into the path of "fewer and fewer themes as it 
> > > gets more
> > > and more complex".
> > >
> > > people can make a theme "fork" of default and disable this in it if they 
> > > want.
> > > for now i'ts an experiment to give more feedback on what gets focused as 
> > > it is
> > > actually hard to know what got focused. if all you see is a titlebar 
> > > change
> > > color its very very little visual feedback. i could try other things like 
> > > some
> > > blue rectangle glow around the outside or something...
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Le 14/01/2023 à 17:58, daniel antoine a écrit :
> > > >  Hi
> > > >
> > > >  I have tried the last commit and I am going to remove it. On a laptop
> > > >  screen all the windows jiggling even the popup windows , I find it
> > > >  unpleasant for the eyes and I wear glasses. At a moment if you put the
> > > >  cursor on the cross on the right upper side the window doesn't stop
> > > >  shaking. As you write it's an experiment but if you want to include
> > > >  it could you provide an option to disable/enable this feature.
> > > >
> > > >  Best regards
> > > >
> > > >  Dania
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [e-users] About Terminology scroll back

[Jérémy Zurcher]

Hello,

maybe the buffer is not wide enough,
still I'll drop my 2 cents here,
when you deal with a command that generates 100'000+ lines,
you redirect its output into a file for further analysis
or into a command like grep for minimal filtering.

On Tuesday 15 November 2022  17:23, leoutat...@gmx.fr wrote :
> Hi
> Its' not possible to scroll back with many lines in Terminology , even with
> 131,072 setting
> Example: I can't see whole 'pact list' standout
> I don't meet this problem with xfce4-terminal where unlimited scroll-back is
> possible
> conditions: efl, e, terminology git versions
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Re: [e-users] Problem with ibar 0.25.3

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On Thursday 17 February 2022  12:41, leoutat...@gmx.fr wrote :
> On 2/17/22 08:55, Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users wrote:
> > When I did hoover over an icon of an ibar, for example the icon of
> > terminology, I got the list of all terminology windows and I could click
> > in it to select it. Now this list has disappeared even if it appears
> > some (very ) rare times !
> > 
> > What do I miss ? am I alone with this problem ?
> 
> It works normally for me with e git version.

same here, never had such an issue.

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Re: [e-users] Terminology 1.12.0

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Hi,

the themes are in INSTALL_DIR/share/terminology/themes/

should be /usr/share/terminology/themes/ on most systems

you'll find the 2 installed themes : default.edj and nyanology.edj

add your own !

On Friday 14 January 2022  10:05, Conrad Knight wrote :
> > From: Carsten Haitzler 
> > change your theme ... :)
> 
> I simply replaced terminology's default.edj with the one from 1.11.0.
> That visual bell was just WAY too much, and I preferred the old
> cursor, too. But i did like the handles to adjust the text selection
> in the new theme.
> 
> > you can make a theme that ONLY covers this edje group and
> > nothing else - it'll fall back to using default elements for everything 
> > else.
> 
> I had initially decompiled the original default.edj, and after some
> digging and experimenting with changing some numbers, found how to
> reduce the radius of the new flashing circles. Each time i made a
> change, i used the included build.sh to generate a new default.edj and
> replace the existing one.
> 
> Are you saying you can also keep the existing one, and create a new
> theme that will override just those elements? Where should that new
> file be placed? I looked around on enlightenment.org but couldn't find
> any documentation (which was why i was using trial and error to adjust
> the existing default.edj).
> 
> Thanks,
> -Conrad.
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[e-users] lost config after crash

[Jérémy Zurcher]

Hi, I've lost all my config after a crash,

as there are versioned file in .e/e/config I guess it's possible,
but somehow I don't succeed.


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Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?

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On Sunday 27 June 2021  08:56, Masaru Nomiya wrote :
> Hello,
> 
> I rebooted, but no sounds from e.
> 
> In the Message; 
> 
>   Subject: Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?
>   Message-ID : <20210626234417.9f9757fe0a5a34e230529...@rasterman.com>
>   Date & Time: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 23:44:17 +0100
> 
> [CH] == Carsten Haitzler  has written:
> 
> [...]
> MN> > But, it's a mystery for me.
> MN> > Why the pulseaudio's settings problem is specific to me  ?
> 
> CH>  I don't know. All I can think of was pulseaduio not running (as
> CH>  your user - not as root or some other user). All Enlightenment
> CH>  does is talk to the pulseaudio daemon using libpluse - like you
> CH>  use xlib to talk to the xserver.
> 
> I can fully understand wha you mean, I think.
> 
> But, pulsedaemon does always run just after booting.
> Because,
> 
> 1. After booting, I can always hear the switching on sound of mu USB
>   DAC.
> 
> 2. I always begin  the PC operation with starting music via audacious.
> 
> 
> 
> One question.
> 
> As a root, accessing to pulseaudio is always denied ;
> 
> # aplay /home/masaru/wav/Track\ 2.wav 
> XDG_RUNTIME_DIR (/run/user/1000) is not owned by us (uid 0), but by uid 1000! 
> (This could e.g. happen if you try to connect to a non-root PulseAudio as a 
> root user, over the native protocol. Don't do that.)
> ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Access 
> denied

yes, it's a pulseaudio policy, mpv does the same to me and switches to ALSA, 
but works.


> 
> aplay: main:831: audio open error: Connection refused
> 
> Is this phenomena within your expectations?
> 
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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Flat has landed

[Jérémy Zurcher]

yesss, very nice !!!

On Saturday 27 March 2021  16:10, Carsten Haitzler wrote :
> For those who are not watching git commits...
> 
> Flat theme has landed in git master efl today.
> 
> Yay!
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Re: [e-users] "check" missing when trying to build efl

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Hi,

On Sunday 14 July 2019  23:32, Pierre Couderc wrote :
> Using
> 
> meson -Dwl=true ..
> 
> I get a  missing dependency named "check"
> 
> 
> Please give me light about this mysterious  "check". For example how to get
> it on debian buster...

https://libcheck.github.io/check/
Check is a unit testing framework for C.

maybe -Dbuild-tests=false solves that missing dependency

> 
> Thanks
> 
> PC
> 
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Re: [e-users] xdg-open troubles

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On Saturday 03 November 2018  11:49, Peter Flynn wrote :
> On 03/11/2018 09:04, Jérémy Zurcher wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > you should first debug xdg-...
> > 
> > XDG_UTILS_DEBUG_LEVEL=2 xdg-mime query default 'text/html'
> 
> OK.
> 
> > XDG_UTILS_DEBUG_LEVEL=2 xdg-mime query default 'bad/wrong' -> to see what 
> > files are read
> 
> Now *that* was enormously useful, thank you. Pipe std.err and tweak it
> to be a grep for 'pdf', execute the lines, then grep the output for
> 'gimp'...eg
> 
> XDG_UTILS_DEBUG_LEVEL=2 xdg-mime query default 'bad/wrong' 2>&1 | sed -e
> "s+Checking+grep -iH pdf+" -e "s+ and + +"| bash | grep -i gimp

Now *that* is new to me, I never thought of piping into bash !!!

> 
> and it turns up:
> 
> /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache:application/pdf=qpdfview.desktop;evince-previewer.desktop;evince.desktop;kde4-okularApplication_pdf.desktop;xreader.desktop;texworks.desktop;gimp.desktop;
> /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache:application/postscript=qpdfview.desktop;evince-previewer.desktop;evince.desktop;kde4-okularApplication_ghostview.desktop;xreader.desktop;gimp.desktop;
> 
> Clearly something has been meddling with the settings for no good reason.
> 
> > so on a 'regular setup' everything boils down to : .config/mimeapps.list
> 
> That seems to be clean, but /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
> isn't. Can I just delete it manually, or is there a procedure to flush
> it out?
> 
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Re: [e-users] xdg-open troubles

[Jérémy Zurcher]

Hi,

you should first debug xdg-...

XDG_UTILS_DEBUG_LEVEL=2 xdg-mime query default 'text/html'

XDG_UTILS_DEBUG_LEVEL=2 xdg-mime query default 'bad/wrong' -> to see what files 
are read

the enlightenment side is :
src/bin/e_open.c:116  snprintf(path, sizeof(path), "%s/mimeapps.list", 
efreet_config_home_get());

- efreet_config_home_get()

https://www.enlightenment.org/_legacy_embed/group__Efreet__Base.html#ga6e9d83cdc5955f464ee2eab946c62e06
$XDG_CONFIG_HOME or $HOME/.config

so on a 'regular setup' everything boils down to : .config/mimeapps.list



On Friday 02 November 2018  23:31, Peter Flynn wrote :
> On 02/11/2018 21:05, Ross Vandegrift wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 07:21:36PM +, Peter Flynn wrote:
> >> xdg-open calls enlightenment_open to open a file with its nominated
> >> handler. On my system, PDFs open with GIMP for some unfathomable reason,
> >> and all my browsers are incapable of calling Thunderbird to open mailto:
> >> links.
> > 
> > Settings -> Apps -> Default applications.  Email is in the Core tab.
> > Other cases are listed by mime type in the General tab.
> 
> Thank you...as I thought, Email is already set to Thunderbird and
> application/pdf is already set to Document Viewer.
> 
> 1. But if I type
> 
>xdg-open foobar.pdf
> 
> it opens GIMP (ie behaviour is false, but it's what the applications are
> doing). BTW file -i correctly identifies PDF files as application/pdf
> 
> 2. If I type
> 
>xdg-open mailto:pe...@silmaril.ie
> 
> a Thunderbird Compose window opens (ie behaviour is correct, but all my
> browsers fail to invoke it).
> 
> Is it possible that for [1] something is overriding the file identity?
> 
> ///Peter
> 
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Re: [e-users] e22.3.0 windows/desktop focus problems in combination with recent nvidia drivers

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Hi,

On Saturday 29 September 2018  16:03, minimec wrote :
> A long time ago there was a build script, 'easy_e17.sh' it was called I
> tnink, that checked the project tree for new code and compiled the
> components accordingly. Would such a script still exist? Or what would be
> your recommended way to compile enlightenment from source?

I use mine on a daily basis
https://git.enlightenment.org/devs/jeyzu/scripts.git/tree/build-fcts.sh
https://git.enlightenment.org/devs/jeyzu/scripts.git/tree/build-box.sh

you must first git clone the desired repos

you can override the default vars with an efl-build.conf file
(https://git.enlightenment.org/devs/jeyzu/scripts.git/tree/clang-flags.conf)

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Re: [e-users] GnuPG pinentry feature request

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Hello,

it is already in pinentry since May 29, 2018,
https://github.com/gpg/pinentry/commit/948105b7a34ec9a9e5479d376b7c86bafee50a01
latest pinentry release, 1.1.0 is from Dec 3, 2017
1.0.0 is from Nov 22, 2016

maybe 1.2.0 will pop out in a few months ?!?

On Monday 17 September 2018  03:05, sergio wrote :
> Please make a pinentry-enlightenment for gpg in addition to
> enlightenment_askpass for ssh.
> 
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Re: [e-users] Shelf I-Bar Icon Animation

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Hello,

right click on an Icon -> IBar -> Settings
you'll find what you need.

On Monday 11 June 2018  18:32, Drew wrote :
> I'm very new to E0.22.1 running on Debian-testing and I'm still exploring 
> this extremely interesting DE.  One thing I can't find after seemingly 
> endless fumbling and searching is this:
> 
> Icons in the shelf animate when the cursor moves over them.  I like that.  
> But the name of the app also pops up and gets in the way.  How to turn that 
> feature off?
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Drew
> 
> 
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Re: [e-users] problem with input focus and window layering in E 0.21.11

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Hello Marc,

I don't like that default behaviour either.
but it's very easy to disable :
  Settings -> Windows -> window focus -> Click window to focus

On Tuesday 08 May 2018  20:02, Marc MERLIN wrote :
> Hi Raster, thanks for the answers.
> 
> On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 11:12:33AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > yes. pointer focus will focus windows under others. as per video. that is
> > intended. i use it all the time. i like it. mostly windows under others are
> > only minimally obscured. if i dont want it behind it alt+click to raise to 
> > the
> > front.
>  
> Oh my, that's a big change. I really don't want this.
> I don't want the behaviour at all. How do I get a window under my active
> window to never take pointer focus?
> 
> > if you want it to RAISE there is another feature called autoraise. enable 
> > that.
> > then it'll focus and raise... use them together if that is what you prefer.
> > autoraise also can work with click to focus. :) "Raise windows on mouse 
> > over""
> > is the checkbox under window focus settings.
> 
> I don't want this either.
> I want the window under to stay under and not exist as far as focus and
> input are concerned, the way E has behaved for me for literally 20 years
> now.
> 
> How do I get back to that state? I did nothing to get out of it, but
> maybe something changed that I don't understand.
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: [e-users] New applications -- menu/ibar entries

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On Tuesday 28 November 2017  21:47, Peter Flynn wrote :
> On 28/11/17 21:42, Jérémy Zurcher wrote:
> > I think the best way to go is to clone efl and e from git.enlightenment.org,
> > compile and install them in another prefix so that you don't break your 
> > Bodhi distro.
> > 
> > just follow the steps here 
> > https://www.enlightenment.org/docs/distros/debian-start
> 
> Yes, done that on several machines before I tried the PPA route. Never tried
> it using another prefix, but a good idea, and if it compiles, I can
> presumably then trash Bodhi's shipped efl/e/terminology and replace it with
> the compiled one. I guess the question is, *what* would need deleting, that
> is, what Bodhi packages?

you can remove e17 and terminology if your compiled one are working,
but I would leave Bodhi's efl untouched.

even if, obviously, efl has backward binary compatibility ... well
you know, it might crash.

I would just play with ldconfig, LD_PRELOAD ...
> 
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Re: [e-users] New applications -- menu/ibar entries

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I think the best way to go is to clone efl and e from git.enlightenment.org,
compile and install them in another prefix so that you don't break your Bodhi 
distro.

just follow the steps here 
https://www.enlightenment.org/docs/distros/debian-start


On Tuesday 28 November 2017  20:49, Peter Flynn wrote :
> On 28/11/17 00:05, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 20:38:30 + Peter Flynn  said:
> [snip]
> > > Does anyone have suggestions. I can't find a page describing how to
> > > replace Moksha with E22.
> > 
> > looks like it needs a newer efl install. apt-get -f install ? or remove efl,
> > enlightenment and anything that depends on these from bodhi and maybe 
> > compile
> > your own?
> 
> Should I do all this from a Ctl-Alt-F1 console, rather than from the X
> session (which would be Moksha) where you presumably can't remove a package
> while it's in use (or can you?).
> 
> On 28/11/17 00:40, Dave wrote:
> [...]
> > I'm not too experienced with Ubuntu PPA sources, but I had a look at
> > that link, and it seems like the PPA source has that version of libefl
> > available. Not sure why it wasn't installed automatically.
> 
> I grabbed the screen log of the session so when I get back to the machine
> I'll have a look. I suspect it be a conflict: Moksha requiring one version
> of efl and the new e requiring a different one, and Bodhi refusing to run
> both.
> 
> > What happened when you ran "apt-get -f install"?
> 
> That's what the log is. I'll have a look. It all went normally until the end
> when it claimed it had unmet dependencies.
> 
> > If you want, you can always download the .deb file and install it
> > manually. Download it via the URL:
> > https://launchpad.net/~niko2040/+archive/ubuntu/e19/+files/libefl_1.20.6-0xenial0_amd64.deb
> 
> Always an option when you know where to find it :-) Thanks.
> Although on current behaviour, I wouldn't trust Bodhi to honour it, given
> that it already knows it doesn't have libefl (>= 1.20.6-0xenial0)
> and refused to install it when I typed apt-get -f install
> 
> >  I assume you know how to use "dpkg" to install deb files.
> Yes indeed, thanks.
> 
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Re: [e-users] Build scripts

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Hi,

here is mine
 https://git.enlightenment.org/devs/jeyzu/scripts.git/tree/build-fcts.sh
 https://git.enlightenment.org/devs/jeyzu/scripts.git/tree/build-box.sh

On Monday 27 November 2017  10:20, Daniel Kasak wrote :
> Hi all. Now that things are moving to meson, I need to revisit how I build
> ...
> 
> I've been using easy_efl.sh. It hasn't been updated with meson support. I
> guess I could try to do that. But maybe there are other build scripts that
> people are using?
> 
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Re: [e-users] cfg files

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Hi,

there are eet files, use eet

$ eet -d .e/e/config/standard/e_bindings.8.cfg config

or vim helper : vieet


On Saturday 18 November 2017  18:02, Conrad Knight wrote :
> Hi,
> 
> How do i read/edit E's *.cfg files? Or even just find out what
> settings are stored in each one? My settings seem to have gotten
> messed up over time (perhaps due to numerous upgrades?). An easy
> solution i've used before is just the config directory and start all
> over with a blank slate. However, there are quite a few settings i'd
> like to preserve. Starting completely over is a pain (as i metioned,
> i've had to do this before).
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: [e-users] How to suppress flipping virtual screen (or add some resistance) ?

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Hello,

what you're looking for should be :
settings -> Inputs -> Edge Bindings -> Modify

the one I always first search for in Screen, then Advanced -> Signal Bindings.

On Tuesday 09 May 2017  11:40, Pierre Couderc wrote :
> When the mouse goes to the  edge of the screen, the virtual screen changes.
> 
> Is it possible to disallow this change ?
> 
> In fact I would like not to disallow this change, bur add some 
> "resistance" so that the change occurs only if I insist and not 
> immediately when I reach the edge of the screen... ?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> PC
> 
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Re: [e-users] Keymap being changed when changing virtual desktop

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On Tue, 2 May 2017 12:10:05 +0100 Allan Jardine 
said:

> Hi all,
> 
> I've run into a little issue that is being triggered every time I change
> virtual desktops: I've got a custom keymap for my keyboard (`xkbcomp
> -I$HOME/.xkb ~/.xkb/keymap/mykbd`) which works really well, but every time
> I change virtual desktop the key map that is active gets reset to be
> something else (I think whatever is selected in the Enlightenment keyboard
> panel).
> 
> I can't seem to find a way to load my custom configuration in the E
> settings, and equally I've struggled to find how to get my custom map into
> the list of options E shows so it could be selected there.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can retain my custom map when
> switching between virtual desktops?

Hello !

I've added my custom kbdmap system wide like this : 
http://cgit.asynk.ch/bin/tree/xkb-jeyzu.patch
relevent e code is here : 
https://git.enlightenment.org/core/enlightenment.git/tree/src/modules/xkbswitch/e_mod_parse.c

It might be correct to add ~/.xkb/rules/xorg.lst to #64: const char *lstfiles[] 
= {…}


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Re: [e-users] build problem

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Hi,

is
> /usr/local/bin/edje_cc
the result of latest efl installation or is it the remain of a previous one ?

On Wednesday 28 October 2015  12:25, Conrad Knight wrote :
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm having trouble building the EFL, etc. libraries... I typically
> download the tarballs and compile from those, but i've also now tried
> following the directions on:
> 
> https://www.enlightenment.org/docs-efl-start
> 
> Compiling all the libraries (in the order specified) still results in
> the same problem. Since the last time i had a successful build, the
> instructions have been updated to include (or maybe they were there
> before, but i just missed them)
> 
> To ensure your code is compiled with decent optimzations you should
> also set this up in your environment:
> export CFLAGS="-O3 -ffast-math -march=native"
> 
> efl, emotion_generic_players, and evas_generic_loaders all build fine,
> but when it comes to elementary i get the following error towards the
> end:
> 
> make[2]: Entering directory '/home/conrad/src/e19/elementary/data'
> Making all in themes
> make[3]: Entering directory '/home/conrad/src/e19/elementary/data/themes'
>   EDJ  default.edj
> /bin/bash: line 3:  9778 Segmentation fault  (core dumped)
> /usr/local/bin/edje_cc -fastdecomp -id . -fd . -id
> ../../data/themes/img -fd ../../data/themes/fnt -sd
> ../../data/themes/snd -l ../../COPYING -a ../../AUTHORS -fastdecomp
> ../../data/themes/default.edc ../../data/themes/default.edj
> Makefile:1545: recipe for target 'default.edj' failed
> make[3]: *** [default.edj] Error 139
> 
> If i start over (make clean, run configure again, etc.) and don't set
> those optimization CFLAGS, all goes well.
> 
> What could be causing this? Is there any way to track down the
> problem? There is a work-around, but that means everything is built
> without the aforementioned "decent optimzations".
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: [e-users] EAPI_MAIN

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On Monday 19 October 2015  13:27, Olivier BATARD wrote :
> Hello,
> 
> 
> I'm a C developer, and I'm learning EFL via the get started
> documentation (https://www.enlightenment.org/docs/efl/start).
> 
> The code presented is quite simple but there one instruction I don't
> understand :
> 
> 
> EAPI_MAIN int
> 
> 
> I can't find in the documentation what EAPI_MAIN means. Is it a pre
> processor declare statement ?
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Olivier.
Hi,

it's a pre processor macros
EAPI_MAIN -> EAPI -> __attribute__ ((visibility("default")))

so you can compile with -fvisibility=hidden and thus shrink the size of
your .so export table (only the EAPI marked symbols will be visible).

here are the links:
 https://git.enlightenment.org/core/elementary.git/tree/src/lib/Elementary.h.in 
line 125
 https://git.enlightenment.org/core/efl.git/tree/src/lib/efl/Efl.h  
line 27
 https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/Visibility
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Re: [e-users] Recording sound and video from a window in Enlightenment.

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that's in my todo for months, same issue here, no time at all (((

On Thursday 04 June 2015  15:25, David Seikel wrote :
 I have a need to record sound and video from a particular window.  I've
 tried recordMyDesktop, but it can't handle specifying a particular
 window, though it claims to.  It might be some incompatibility with
 E19.  What happens is that I start it recording a particular window on
 a particular virtual desktop, but when I move to another virtual
 desktop, the recording moves with me, recording the other windows and
 desktops, instead of sticking with recording the given window.  Which
 makes it tricky for lengthy recordings when I want to go do other things
 while I wait.
 
 Now I know E could handle that to an extent, the pager shows real
 time video of the correct window no matter what I do.  So I figure half
 the functionality is in there somewhere.  Would be good if the other
 half was in a module or something.  I can't find any such module
 though, and I don't feel like writing one right now (got no time lol).
 
 I use Pulse for audio, and it would be great if it could record sound
 from a specific Pulse device.  I'd like to feed the the audio from the
 window to my headphone device, then mute the headphones.  So I don't
 have to listen to it while recording, but can listen to other stuff,
 and the recording doesn't pick up the other stuff.  RecordMyDesktop can
 deal with that, I tell Pulse to feed the monitor of my headphone
 device's output into recordMyDesktop.
 
 Does any one know about any other video recording software that will do
 what I need?  Preferably something that works fine under Ubuntu 12.04.
 
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Re: [e-users] cannot enable systray in e19: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownInterface Interface not found.

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Hello Marc

On Sunday 26 April 2015  12:43, Marc MERLIN wrote :
 
 2) The volume mixer widget, gives me a non moving slider because likely it's
 talking to the wrong setting on my audio card.
 Clicking on settings lets me edit more channels and move sliders, but I
 don't know how to change what the default slider does.
you want to access the widget settings
right click : Mixer - Settings
 
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Re: [e-users] Func 'edje_obj_signal_emit' unknown in class 'Evas_Smart'

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On Tuesday 08 July 2014  17:19, Carsten Haitzler wrote :
 On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 18:07:43 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said:
 
  On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 10:45:32 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
  ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
  
   On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 17:56:36 +0100 Richard Ullger rull...@gmail.com
   said:
   
Hi,

I'm running e18 from the Arch repos and am getting the following
error:

Jul 07 17:28:37 richards-aspire slim[366]: ERReolib/eo/eo.c:597 in
lib/edje/edje.eo.c:328: you called func 'edje_obj_signal_emit' (345)
which is unknown in class 'Evas_Smart'.

The error is constantly being generated several times a second and
is filling the systemd journal.

The installed packages are:

enlightenment 0.18.8-1
elementary 1.10.0-1
efl 1.10.0-2

Is this a known issue that may have been fixed in e19?
   
   e19 (git) does this much less - it's a harmless complaint about
   someone using an interface that an object doesnn't support (eo is
   designed to detect this and safely complain and march on with doing
   nothing).
  
  I'm getting a similar message, only for Elm_Layout.  Harmless other than
  filling up logs and getting in the way of real error messages.  Drop it
  to warning or debug level?  Get rid of it completely?  Or some other way
  to make this bogus error message go away?
 
 it's not bogus. it's real. but just not harmful. its telling you that your api
 call is basically a nop where you might expect it to actually do something
 (otherwise why call it?)
 

shouldn't we even add WRN() to eo_do(NULL, ... ) calls ??
loads of them in elm because of NULL wd-resize_obj.

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Re: [e-users] Wallpaper Cycler

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Hi,
what about building your own slideshow with edje ?
attached an old template of mine.

On Wednesday 02 July 2014  23:52, Yomi Ogunwumi wrote :
 I've asked in #e a few times, but I figured I might as well have an
 extended discussion about a wallpaper cycler here.
 
 After switching to E awhile ago, one of things I missed was having a
 wallpaper cycler. It had a few images it'd automatically cycle through
 every few minutes.
 
 IIRC, raster mentioned something about code being in place for that or
 something to that effect, but I don't remember what he said exactly.
 
 I know getting this merged into enlightenment would take awhile, so maybe I
 could use something like feh to mimic it?
 
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images {
   image: 00.png COMP;
   image: 01.png COMP;
   image: 02.png COMP;
   image: 03.png COMP;
   image: 04.png COMP;
}

collections {
  group { name: e/desktop/background;
//
script {
  public img_idx;
  public change_image(img[], inc) {
new i;
new imgid;
new buf[8];

i = get_int(img_idx);
if (inc == 1) {
  i += 1;
  if ( i 4) i = 0;
  set_int(img_idx, i);
}

imgid = get_part_id(img);
snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), show%d, i);

set_state(imgid, buf, 0.0);
  }
}
//
parts {
  // primary bg
  part { name: bg0;
type: RECT;
description { state: default 0.0;
  color: 0 0 0 255;
}
  }
  // img slot 0
  part { name: img0;
type: IMAGE;
description { state: show0 0.0;
  aspect: 0. 1.0;
  aspect_preference: BOTH;
  image { normal: 00.png;  scale_hint: STATIC; }
}
description { state: show1 0.0;
  aspect: 0.3278 1.0;
  aspect_preference: BOTH;
  image { normal: 01.png;  scale_hint: STATIC; }
  rel1 { to: bg0; relative: 0.0 0.0; offset: 10 10; }
  rel2 { to: bg0; relative: 0.5 1.0; offset: 0 0; }
}
description { state: show2 0.0;
  aspect: 0.4672 1.0;
  aspect_preference: BOTH;
  image { normal: 02.png;  scale_hint: STATIC; }
  rel1 { to: bg0; relative: 0.0 0.0; offset: 10 10; }
  rel2 { to: bg0; relative: 0.7 1.0; offset: 0 0; }
}
description { state: show3 0.0;
  aspect: 0.5341 1.0;
  aspect_preference: BOTH;
  image { normal: 03.png;  scale_hint: STATIC; }
  rel1 { to: bg0; relative: 0.5 0.0; offset: 10 10; }
  rel2 { to: bg0; relative: 1.0 1.0; offset: 0 0; }
}
description { state: show4 0.0;
  aspect: 0.6239 1.0;
  aspect_preference: BOTH;
  image { normal: 04.png;  scale_hint: STATIC; }
}
  }
  // primary bg to hide to above whatever the image size is
  part { name: bg1;
type: RECT;
clip_to: clip;
description { state: default 0.0;
  color: 0 0 0 255;
}
  }
  // img slot 1
  part { name: img1;
type: IMAGE;
clip_to: clip;
description { state: show0 0.0;
  aspect: 0. 1.0;
  aspect_preference: BOTH;
  image { normal: 00.png;  scale_hint: STATIC; }
}
description { state: show1 0.0;
  aspect: 0.3278 1.0;
  aspect_preference: BOTH;
  image { normal: 01.png;  scale_hint: STATIC; }
  rel1 { to: bg0; relative: 0.0 0.0; offset: 10 10; }
  rel2 { to: bg0; relative: 0.5 1.0; offset: 0 0; }
}
description { state: show2 0.0;
  aspect: 0.4672 1.0;
  aspect_preference: BOTH;
  image { normal: 02.png;  scale_hint: STATIC; }
  rel1 { to: bg0; relative: 0.0 0.0; offset: 10 10; }
  rel2 { to: bg0; relative: 0.7 1.0; offset: 0 0; }
}
description { state: show3 0.0;
  aspect: 0.5341 1.0;
  aspect_preference: BOTH;
  image { normal: 03.png;  scale_hint: STATIC; }
  rel1 { to: bg0; relative: 0.5 0.0; offset: 10 10; }
  rel2 { to: bg0; relative: 1.0 1.0; offset: 0 0; }
}
description { state: show4 0.0;
  aspect: 0.6239 1.0;
  aspect_preference: BOTH;
  image { normal: 04.png;  scale_hint: STATIC; }
}
  }
  // used for the transition
  part { name: clip;
type: RECT;
 

Re: [e-users] Mixer module and pulseaudio

[Jérémy Zurcher]

Hi,

the mixer launches pulseaudio if not running then thies to connect to
it,it enventually falls back to alsa backend on failure
On Thursday 26 June 2014  11:06, Mick wrote :

 I've recently installed pulseaudio because skype decided to have a hard 
 dependency on it.
 
 I am trying to understand how it is supposed to work, since its effects are 
 not transparent on my system.  Sometimes the mixer will show all the various 
 audio sinks and sources (headphones, PCM, Master, Capture, Mic, etc.) that 
 good ol' alsa used to show.  Other times it will only list:
 
the below it the poor pulse backend
 RV710/730 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4000 series] Digital Stereo (HDMI)
 Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
 Monitor of RV710/730 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4000 series] Digital Stereo (HDMI)
 Monitor of Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
 Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
 
there are opened issues:
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T1059
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T1299
 The problem is that the second headphone jack is always zeroed and muted - 
 actually it winds down to zero and mutes itself before my eyes if I launch 
 Skype.
 
try to start pulseaudio before launching e,
that should confirm that there is an issue in the way mixer thrie to get
in touch with pulse
 How is this meant to work and why does it switch between different lists?  
 There may be a pattern to it (i.e. having headphones inserted before booting 
 the laptop) but I have not yet undertaken any prolonged testing to determine 
 this.
 
 
 PS.  Occasionally, the mixer gadget will not load/display on my desktop, but 
 restarting e, or rebooting, will bring it back up.
 
 PPS.  I am running alsa-utils-1.0.27.2, pulseaudio-5.0-r2, on kernel-3.12.21 
 on a gentoo system.
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Re: [e-users] Mouse configuration changes after upgrading e17-e18

[Jérémy Zurcher]

An easy way to check if e18 correctly recieves your alt keycode is
to use Settings-Input-Key Bindings- ADD button,
and hit something like Alt-z, see what comes in ...

On Wednesday 30 April 2014  21:43, Marc MERLIN wrote :
 On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 11:44:41AM +1000, Dave wrote:
   Can't see Settings-Input-Mouse Bindings?
  
   Can you go to Settings-Extensions-Modules-Settings?  Check that the 
  Input
  Control Setting module is loaded.
 
 Good question. I just checked and the module is loaded.
  
   Seems like e18 is receiving your Alt keypress fine, it's just not 
  configured
  to act on it.
 
 How can you tell whether it is?
 
 Another interesting test I just did:
 I set right but on zone to show application menu
 I set right but+alt on zone to also show application menu
 
 Right but works, but right but + alt causes the mouse cursor to change
 color to show the click, but no menu gets opened.
maybe it tries to show your empty Favorite Applications menu ??
which is de default right click behaviour.
 
 Mmmh, this is perplexing now...
 
 To me, it looks like e18 does not see my alt key as alt.
 When I press alt+but3 or ctrl+but3, I get the same thing, a cursor that
 changes color and that's it.
 
 I do use xmodmap, but changed absolutely nothing from my setup that was
 working with e17.
 
 Marc
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Re: [e-users] Mouse configuration changes after upgrading e17-e18

[Jérémy Zurcher]

Hi Marc,
there are still working on all my boxes and never stopped.
you can edit the mouse bindings through Settings-Input-Mouse Bindings

cheers


On Wednesday 30 April 2014  07:14, Marc MERLIN wrote :
 Does the lack of answer mean that those bindings are gone in e18?
 Please tell me it's not so :-/
 
 How do you resize a window withouth precisely grabbing the few pixels at the
 right corner without that?
 
 Thanks,
 Marc
 
 On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:31:06AM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote:
  e18 did a good job picking up my saved profile, or at least parts of it,
  but some things got lost, mostly key+mouse bindings I use all the time
  and very much miss right now.
  
  ALT+But1+drag - move window under cursor
  ALT+But2+drag - resize window from its nearest side or corner
  But3 on the desktop does nothing now.
  
  Are the button bindings I had lost on purpose or is it a bug?
  Any idea how I can restore them?
  
  My pidgin window is somehow minimized to a 4 pixel line, I can't use
  button 3 on it to bring up a window menu to maximize it, nor can I
  resize it.
  Any idea how I can bring the window back to usable size?
  
  Thanks,
  Marc
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Re: [e-users] IBar e 0.18.5 not showing icons

[Jérémy Zurcher]

Hi,

are the icons in the Applications menu OK ?

check your XDG env  : env | grep XDG
is efreetd running  : ps aux | grep efreet
maybe clean it's cache  : rm -fr ~/.cache/efreet/
or destroy your old ibar config : rm .e/e/config/standard/module.ibar.*

On Friday 25 April 2014  12:40, meine wrote :
 hi,
 
 my Linux box with base Fedora 20 LXDE and running Enlightenment 0.18.5 has 
 two users. on my own account all is displayed properly, but on the second 
 account the icons in the IBar are missing -- except Terminology. the 
 shortcuts to all the 'invisible' programs however do work.
 
 tried removing the 'invisible' icons and put new ones in with drag  drop 
 from the menu, but the icons still are not shown.
 
 upgrading from e 0.17.5 to 0.18.5 didn't change a thing
 
 ctrl+alt+end rebuilds the screen but does not solve the problem.
 
 what can I do to let the IBar show properly?
 
 what causes this hickup?
 
 TIA
 
 -- 
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 Fedora 20 LXDE | Enlightenment 0.18.5
 
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