Re: [e-users] Continuing... Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!

2006-02-14 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Fri, 2006-03-02 at 16:30 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
 actually - just checked dell again.
 
 dell poweredhe 850 1u, sata raid controller, dual core 3ghz penitum-d, 2gb 
 ram,
 cdrom, 250gb sata x2, 24x cdrom, 3 years basic warranty next day on-site, 
 level
 1 hw queue (we arent THAT concerned that if they take a day or 2 to fix it we
 will lose customers!), no OS (likely will be re-installed anyway) - $1838.
 thats without any discounts. we possibly can get.

I'm a Dell VAR.  Well, my Linux consulting company is a Dell VAR.
Anyway, I can get you a Dell server at my cost, which can be
significant, depending on the configuration.  I also always have free
shipping.

There's only one problem: I'm in Canada.  I don't know if
shipping/selling to a customer outside of Canada is possible.  I would
have to ask my rep if it's allowed.

Should I look into it?

Regards,

Ranbir
-- 
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Linux 2.6.15-1.1830_FC4 i686 GNU/Linux 
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Re: [e-users] Continuing... Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!

2006-02-14 Thread Paul Stejskal
The issue isn't a powerhouse server, it's upload bandwidth. It can have
a 5 THz processor, and 1TB of RAM, it can run CVS all it wants but if it
only has dialup then it's kinda dumb.
Paul
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 09:25 -0500, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
 On Fri, 2006-03-02 at 16:30 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
  actually - just checked dell again.
  
  dell poweredhe 850 1u, sata raid controller, dual core 3ghz penitum-d, 2gb 
  ram,
  cdrom, 250gb sata x2, 24x cdrom, 3 years basic warranty next day on-site, 
  level
  1 hw queue (we arent THAT concerned that if they take a day or 2 to fix it 
  we
  will lose customers!), no OS (likely will be re-installed anyway) - $1838.
  thats without any discounts. we possibly can get.
 
 I'm a Dell VAR.  Well, my Linux consulting company is a Dell VAR.
 Anyway, I can get you a Dell server at my cost, which can be
 significant, depending on the configuration.  I also always have free
 shipping.
 
 There's only one problem: I'm in Canada.  I don't know if
 shipping/selling to a customer outside of Canada is possible.  I would
 have to ask my rep if it's allowed.
 
 Should I look into it?
 
 Regards,
 
 Ranbir



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Re: [e-users] Continuing... Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!

2006-02-03 Thread Noah Romer
On 1/30/06, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PowerEdge 850 (1u): Pentium D Dual core 3.2Ghz 2x1MB L2 Cache, 2GB 667MHz DDRRAM, SATA Raid Controller, 2x250GB SATA 7200rpm Drives, 24x speed CD. Standardnext business day on site warranty support (nothing special) = $2744
PowerEdge 1850 (2u): 3Ghz Xeon 2MB L2 Cache x 2, 2GB 400Mhz DDR RAM, SCSI RaidController, 2x146GB SCSI 1rpm Drives, 24x speed CDROM. Standard nextbusiness day on site warranty support (nothing special)= $4272

In the spirit of checking different vendors, I went to Penguin Computing and messed around a bit:


Altus 1300 (1U)
Single AMD Opteron 265 (Dual Core) / 2GB / 2 x 250GB SATA (7200RPM) / Slim 24X CD-ROM / Fedora Core 4 / STD
3-YR WTY / 3-YR, Next-Day, OSS -- $2,602.00





Re: [e-users] Continuing... Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!

2006-02-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 22:27:04 -0800 Noah Romer [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 On 1/30/06, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  PowerEdge 850 (1u): Pentium D Dual core 3.2Ghz 2x1MB L2 Cache, 2GB 667MHz
  DDR
  RAM, SATA Raid Controller, 2x250GB SATA 7200rpm Drives, 24x speed CD.
  Standard
  next business day on site warranty support (nothing special) = $2744
 
  PowerEdge 1850 (2u): 3Ghz Xeon 2MB L2 Cache x 2, 2GB 400Mhz DDR RAM, SCSI
  Raid
  Controller, 2x146GB SCSI 1rpm Drives, 24x speed CDROM. Standard next
  business day on site warranty support (nothing special)  = $4272
 
 
 In the spirit of checking different vendors, I went to Penguin Computing and
 messed around a bit:
 
 Altus 1300 (1U)
 Single AMD Opteron 265 (Dual Core) / 2GB / 2 x 250GB SATA (7200RPM) / Slim
 24X CD-ROM / Fedora Core 4 / STD 3-YR WTY / 3-YR, Next-Day, OSS  -- $2,
 602.00

a bit cheaper. nb - the 850 price is not with edu discount - we can get
educational discount for this too - i'll check what that is as soon as i can.


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Re: [e-users] Continuing... Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!

2006-01-31 Thread Daniel Kasak
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:

snipped

PowerEdge 850 (1u): Pentium D Dual core 3.2Ghz 2x1MB L2 Cache, 2GB 667MHz DDR
RAM, SATA Raid Controller, 2x250GB SATA 7200rpm Drives, 24x speed CD. Standard
next business day on site warranty support (nothing special) = $2744

PowerEdge 1850 (2u): 3Ghz Xeon 2MB L2 Cache x 2, 2GB 400Mhz DDR RAM, SCSI Raid
Controller, 2x146GB SCSI 1rpm Drives, 24x speed CDROM. Standard next
business day on site warranty support (nothing special)  = $4272
  


I hate to throw a spanner in the works here, but on the other hand ...

One of my friends is winding up his software business and selling off
assets. One asset of particular interest is a Dell server that might be
just what you're after. It's been strictly a test box, and while it's
probably been turned on 24/7 for the past 2 years or so, it has had *NO*
load at all ... if that makes any difference.

He's asking $1,000 ( Australian ). I'll let others comment on the value
/ relative performance. If you're after something new / faster, then
fair enough - thought I'd let people know in case it looks attractive (
which I suppose will depend on how much money is raised ).

Here are the specs ...

- Dell 2600 with some 2800 bits ( approx 2 years old )
- Dual 2 Gig Xeon ( with hyperthreading )
- 512K L2 cache
- 1GB RAM
- LSI Logic 1030 Ultra320 SCSI card (not raid, but quite fast)
- 2 * 18GB Seagate ST318453LC scsi drives
- Gig ethernet

lspci:

:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation E7500 Memory Controller Hub
(rev 03)
:00:02.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation E7500/E7501 Hub Interface B
PCI-to-PCI Bridge (rev 03)
:00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation E7500/E7501 Hub Interface C
PCI-to-PCI Bridge (rev 03)
:00:04.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation E7500/E7501 Hub Interface D
PCI-to-PCI Bridge (rev 03)
:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #1)
(rev 02)
:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 42)
:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801CA LPC Interface
Controller (rev 02)
:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801CA Ultra ATA Storage
Controller (rev 02)
:01:1c.0 PIC: Intel Corporation 82870P2 P64H2 I/OxAPIC (rev 03)
:01:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82870P2 P64H2 Hub PCI Bridge
(rev 03)
:01:1e.0 PIC: Intel Corporation 82870P2 P64H2 I/OxAPIC (rev 03)
:01:1f.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82870P2 P64H2 Hub PCI Bridge
(rev 03)
:03:01.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82544GC Gigabit
Ethernet Controller (LOM) (rev 02)
:04:1c.0 PIC: Intel Corporation 82870P2 P64H2 I/OxAPIC (rev 03)
:04:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82870P2 P64H2 Hub PCI Bridge
(rev 03)
:04:1e.0 PIC: Intel Corporation 82870P2 P64H2 I/OxAPIC (rev 03)
:04:1f.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82870P2 P64H2 Hub PCI Bridge
(rev 03)
:07:1c.0 PIC: Intel Corporation 82870P2 P64H2 I/OxAPIC (rev 03)
:07:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82870P2 P64H2 Hub PCI Bridge
(rev 03)
:07:1e.0 PIC: Intel Corporation 82870P2 P64H2 I/OxAPIC (rev 03)
:07:1f.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82870P2 P64H2 Hub PCI Bridge
(rev 03)
:08:08.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 80303 I/O Processor
PCI-to-PCI Bridge (rev 01)
:09:0d.0 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53c1030
PCI-X Fusion-MPT Dual Ultra320 SCSI (rev 07)
:09:0d.1 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53c1030
PCI-X Fusion-MPT Dual Ultra320 SCSI (rev 07)
:0b:04.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL
(rev 27)

dmesg:

Linux version 2.6.12-gentoo-r4 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.5-20050130
(Gentoo 3.3.5.20050130-r1, ssp-3.3.5.20050130-1, pie-8.7.7.1)) #1 SMP
Fri Jul 8 10:15:12 EST 2005
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
BIOS-e820:  - 000a (usable)
BIOS-e820: 0010 - 3ffe (usable)
BIOS-e820: 3ffe - 3ffefc00 (ACPI data)
BIOS-e820: 3ffefc00 - 3000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: fec0 - fec9 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: fee0 - fee1 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: ffb0 - 0001 (reserved)
127MB HIGHMEM available.
896MB LOWMEM available.
found SMP MP-table at 000fe710
On node 0 totalpages: 262112
DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1
Normal zone: 225280 pages, LIFO batch:31
HighMem zone: 32736 pages, LIFO batch:15
DMI 2.3 present.
ACPI: RSDP (v000 DELL ) @ 0x000fdc20
ACPI: RSDT (v001 DELL PE2600 0x0001 MSFT 0x010a) @ 0x000fdc34
ACPI: FADT (v001 DELL PE2600 0x0001 MSFT 0x010a) @ 0x000fdc64
ACPI: MADT (v001 DELL PE2600 0x0001 MSFT 0x010a) @ 0x000fdcd8
ACPI: SPCR (v001 DELL PE2600 0x0001 MSFT 0x010a) @ 0x000fdd96
ACPI: DSDT (v001 DELL PE2600 0x0001 MSFT 0x010a) @ 0x
ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee0
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x01] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
Processor #0 15:2 APIC version 20
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x02] lapic_id[0x02] enabled)
Processor #2 15:2 APIC 

Re: [e-users] Continuing... Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!

2006-01-31 Thread Geoffrey
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 Ok - sorry for being a bit quiet. I've had the flu and have been out
 of any energy to do anything over the last 4 days or so.
 
 I've let this thread move along and see what people have to say. It
 seems there is sufficient support to make this happen - and since we
 have bandwidth and hosting provided for - the only burden on us is
 getting hardware together. ok - i've taken a stab at it here are 2
 examples (Taken from dell because its easy to select things and geta
 price immediately):

I hope the dell examples are just examples.  I've heard all kinds of
folks (particularily on the postgresql lists) who have had nothing but
trouble out of Dell servers.  I like Monarch Computer and you can pick
and choose your hardware.  Further, they do Linux. :)  Also, I can drive
to their location, thus if we need to do some price discussion, I'd be
willing to do it in person.  Maybe we should hit them up for some FREE
hardware? I've picked a couple of comparable systems:

 PowerEdge 850 (1u): Pentium D Dual core 3.2Ghz 2x1MB L2 Cache, 2GB
 667MHz DDR RAM, SATA Raid Controller, 2x250GB SATA 7200rpm Drives,
 24x speed CD. Standard next business day on site warranty support
 (nothing special) = $2744

Dual Opteron 250s 2.4Ghz (64/32bit), 2x400 SATA 7200 drives, 2gig ddr
(400) 3200 ECC ram, 16x DL DVD+/-, Fedora Core 4.

This is the stock setup, you can tweak it on this link (swap the DVD for
a cdrom...):

http://tinyurl.com/dezfv  From this page, scroll down to the 'price
point' box and select 'around $3000'  The box above is just under $3000

 
 PowerEdge 1850 (2u): 3Ghz Xeon 2MB L2 Cache x 2, 2GB 400Mhz DDR RAM,
 SCSI Raid Controller, 2x146GB SCSI 1rpm Drives, 24x speed CDROM.
 Standard next business day on site warranty support (nothing special)
 = $4272

Dual Opteron 275 Dual-Core 2.2Ghz 1MB, everything else is the same as
the Opteron box above. $4085

 
 This is a SAMPLE. I personally would take the first option - cheaper,
 likely overall the same spee (depends what u are doing though). ie
 faster memory bus, but less l2 cache, but a tiny bit more ghz.
 7200v1rpm - etc.
 
 anyway - do other peolp eant to investigate options elsewhere?

 NB: to people offering i have a raid controller you can use or i
 may have a spare cpu - that's great - thanks, but really
 impractical.

Agreed.

 Anyway - so what do you guys think? to me it seesm as if we have a
 target of about $3500 to meet at this stage (we need some extra for
 shipping and handling, and then some extra in the kitty for when
 warranty runs out and we need new parts or we need to ship someone up
 to the server to fix it etc. or whatever - i also just like
 over-estimating costs and coiming out with a pleasant surprise)

Where will the box reside?  (Geographically)

-- 
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[e-users] Continuing... Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!

2006-01-30 Thread The Rasterman
Ok - sorry for being a bit quiet. I've had the flu and have been out of any
energy to do anything over the last 4 days or so.

I've let this thread move along and see what people have to say. It seems there
is sufficient support to make this happen - and since we have bandwidth and
hosting provided for - the only burden on us is getting hardware together. ok -
i've taken a stab at it here are 2 examples (Taken from dell because its easy
to select things and geta  price immediately):

PowerEdge 850 (1u): Pentium D Dual core 3.2Ghz 2x1MB L2 Cache, 2GB 667MHz DDR
RAM, SATA Raid Controller, 2x250GB SATA 7200rpm Drives, 24x speed CD. Standard
next business day on site warranty support (nothing special) = $2744

PowerEdge 1850 (2u): 3Ghz Xeon 2MB L2 Cache x 2, 2GB 400Mhz DDR RAM, SCSI Raid
Controller, 2x146GB SCSI 1rpm Drives, 24x speed CDROM. Standard next
business day on site warranty support (nothing special)  = $4272

This is a SAMPLE. I personally would take the first option - cheaper, likely
overall the same spee (depends what u are doing though). ie faster memory bus,
but less l2 cache, but a tiny bit more ghz. 7200v1rpm - etc.

anyway - do other peolp eant to investigate options elsewhere?

NB: to people offering i have a raid controller you can use or i may have a
spare cpu - that's great - thanks, but really impractical. everyone will need
to pack aup the hw - send it somewhere to be built, then there is no warranty
or easy replacements later down the line - and hassles of things like car no
the right form factor for the case or other issues you have when dealing with
hw building. it'as simply easier and faster to just order it all together from
somewhere like Dell, HP, Sun, etc. and then we know we get new HW that comes
with warranty (in Dell's case 3 years - ys it breaks sometimes, but they DO
come and fix it - on site. I have had them fix my laptop motherboard twice in 3
years - next day on site, no hassles).

Anyway - so what do you guys think? to me it seesm as if we have a target of
about $3500 to meet at this stage (we need some extra for shipping and
handling, and then some extra in the kitty for when warranty runs out and we
need new parts or we need to ship someone up to the server to fix it etc. or
whatever - i also just like over-estimating costs and coiming out with a
pleasant surprise)

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The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED]
裸好多
Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本)


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