[e-users] HiDPI, multiple displays

2015-07-14 Thread Daniel Kasak
Hi all.

I've just installed Linux on a new Macbook ( new job, mac-only place
). I now have a HiDPI display, and I'm figuring out how to make things
work. Setting up scaling for E was easy - for the primary laptop
display anyway.

I've read at: https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/gtk-x11.html
that you can set the environment variable GDK_SCALE to get Gtk3 to
scale by an integer amount. I've set this under Settings Panel -
Advanced - Environment Variables ... and this works ... but again,
for the primary laptop display only.

When I boot with my massive LG wrap-around monitor ( also courtesy of
new job ), neither Enlightenment nor Gtk3 apps behave nicely on both
displays simultaneously. The LG monitor is *not* HiDPI. The page:
https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/gtk-x11.html *also* says:

Normally, GDK will pick up a suitable scale factor for each monitor
from the display system.

Now this isn't happening when running under Enlightenment - hence the
need to set the GDK_SCALE env variable. Would it be possible to export
this info ( whatever it is that GDK uses to detect DPI ) to apps
somehow?

Dan

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Re: [e-users] HiDPI, multiple displays

2015-07-14 Thread Christopher Barry
On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 21:31:58 +1000
Daniel Kasak d.j.kasak...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all.

I've just installed Linux on a new Macbook ( new job, mac-only place
). I now have a HiDPI display, and I'm figuring out how to make things
work. Setting up scaling for E was easy - for the primary laptop
display anyway.

I've read at: https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/gtk-x11.html
that you can set the environment variable GDK_SCALE to get Gtk3 to
scale by an integer amount. I've set this under Settings Panel -
Advanced - Environment Variables ... and this works ... but again,
for the primary laptop display only.

When I boot with my massive LG wrap-around monitor ( also courtesy of
new job ), neither Enlightenment nor Gtk3 apps behave nicely on both
displays simultaneously. The LG monitor is *not* HiDPI. The page:
https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/gtk-x11.html *also* says:

Normally, GDK will pick up a suitable scale factor for each monitor
from the display system.

Now this isn't happening when running under Enlightenment - hence the
need to set the GDK_SCALE env variable. Would it be possible to export
this info ( whatever it is that GDK uses to detect DPI ) to apps
somehow?

Dan


$ man xrandr

Also, give arandr a try. arandr is a gui interface for xrandr that will
lewt you set things up and save the xrandr commands to re-do it into a
script.



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Re: [e-users] HiDPI, multiple displays

2015-07-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 21:31:58 +1000 Daniel Kasak d.j.kasak...@gmail.com said:

 Hi all.
 
 I've just installed Linux on a new Macbook ( new job, mac-only place
 ). I now have a HiDPI display, and I'm figuring out how to make things
 work. Setting up scaling for E was easy - for the primary laptop
 display anyway.
 
 I've read at: https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/gtk-x11.html
 that you can set the environment variable GDK_SCALE to get Gtk3 to
 scale by an integer amount. I've set this under Settings Panel -
 Advanced - Environment Variables ... and this works ... but again,
 for the primary laptop display only.
 
 When I boot with my massive LG wrap-around monitor ( also courtesy of
 new job ), neither Enlightenment nor Gtk3 apps behave nicely on both
 displays simultaneously. The LG monitor is *not* HiDPI. The page:
 https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/gtk-x11.html *also* says:
 
 Normally, GDK will pick up a suitable scale factor for each monitor
 from the display system.
 
 Now this isn't happening when running under Enlightenment - hence the
 need to set the GDK_SCALE env variable. Would it be possible to export
 this info ( whatever it is that GDK uses to detect DPI ) to apps
 somehow?

there isnt anything for e to expose. x itself can be queries for dpi per screen
- as ,r barry said. gtk could do this.

efl doesn't do it - it totally relies on settings alone for scaling... but e
supports different config profiles per screen (and even per desktop) so you can
set up 2 profiles. standard and standard-hidpi for example and configure one
separately from the other.

sorry -w e have no infra to go generate these on the fly for you atm. :(

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Re: [e-users] HiDPI, multiple displays

2015-07-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 14:13:08 +1000 Daniel Kasak d.j.kasak...@gmail.com said:

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com
 wrote:
  On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 21:31:58 +1000 Daniel Kasak d.j.kasak...@gmail.com
  said:
 
  Hi all.
 
  I've just installed Linux on a new Macbook ( new job, mac-only place
  ). I now have a HiDPI display, and I'm figuring out how to make things
  work. Setting up scaling for E was easy - for the primary laptop
  display anyway.
 
  I've read at: https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/gtk-x11.html
  that you can set the environment variable GDK_SCALE to get Gtk3 to
  scale by an integer amount. I've set this under Settings Panel -
  Advanced - Environment Variables ... and this works ... but again,
  for the primary laptop display only.
 
  When I boot with my massive LG wrap-around monitor ( also courtesy of
  new job ), neither Enlightenment nor Gtk3 apps behave nicely on both
  displays simultaneously. The LG monitor is *not* HiDPI. The page:
  https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/gtk-x11.html *also* says:
 
  Normally, GDK will pick up a suitable scale factor for each monitor
  from the display system.
 
  Now this isn't happening when running under Enlightenment - hence the
  need to set the GDK_SCALE env variable. Would it be possible to export
  this info ( whatever it is that GDK uses to detect DPI ) to apps
  somehow?
 
  there isnt anything for e to expose. x itself can be queries for dpi per
  screen
  - as ,r barry said. gtk could do this.
 
  efl doesn't do it - it totally relies on settings alone for scaling... but e
  supports different config profiles per screen (and even per desktop) so you
  can set up 2 profiles. standard and standard-hidpi for example and
  configure one separately from the other.
 
  sorry -w e have no infra to go generate these on the fly for you atm. :(
 
 Not a problem - just checking :)
 
 Regarding xrandr - I tried this first, and things blew up badly. Parts
 of the laptop display were spilling over onto the 2nd monitor.
 Graphics corruption in some 'blank' rectangles, in areas exposed by a
 resizing of things. So I did 'enlightenment_remote -restart', and it
 went into a crash/restart loop. There were logs at the console about
 e_randr2 being in an infinite loop. This continued after I killed and
 restarted E. I had to remove some config files from ~/.e to allow me
 to get back into E.

no no - YOU dont use xrandr. gtk would use it. it's an api. xrandr also has a
cmdline tool. nothing much you can do unless gtk decides to use this.

 I'll look into setting up profiles. It's not obvious how you can have
 multiple simultaneous profiles on different screens. Having said that,
 I'm @ work and can't muck around with it right now.
 
 Thanks for the responses :)
 
 Dan
 


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Re: [e-users] HiDPI, multiple displays

2015-07-14 Thread Daniel Kasak
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 21:31:58 +1000 Daniel Kasak d.j.kasak...@gmail.com said:

 Hi all.

 I've just installed Linux on a new Macbook ( new job, mac-only place
 ). I now have a HiDPI display, and I'm figuring out how to make things
 work. Setting up scaling for E was easy - for the primary laptop
 display anyway.

 I've read at: https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/gtk-x11.html
 that you can set the environment variable GDK_SCALE to get Gtk3 to
 scale by an integer amount. I've set this under Settings Panel -
 Advanced - Environment Variables ... and this works ... but again,
 for the primary laptop display only.

 When I boot with my massive LG wrap-around monitor ( also courtesy of
 new job ), neither Enlightenment nor Gtk3 apps behave nicely on both
 displays simultaneously. The LG monitor is *not* HiDPI. The page:
 https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/gtk-x11.html *also* says:

 Normally, GDK will pick up a suitable scale factor for each monitor
 from the display system.

 Now this isn't happening when running under Enlightenment - hence the
 need to set the GDK_SCALE env variable. Would it be possible to export
 this info ( whatever it is that GDK uses to detect DPI ) to apps
 somehow?

 there isnt anything for e to expose. x itself can be queries for dpi per 
 screen
 - as ,r barry said. gtk could do this.

 efl doesn't do it - it totally relies on settings alone for scaling... but e
 supports different config profiles per screen (and even per desktop) so you 
 can
 set up 2 profiles. standard and standard-hidpi for example and configure one
 separately from the other.

 sorry -w e have no infra to go generate these on the fly for you atm. :(

Not a problem - just checking :)

Regarding xrandr - I tried this first, and things blew up badly. Parts
of the laptop display were spilling over onto the 2nd monitor.
Graphics corruption in some 'blank' rectangles, in areas exposed by a
resizing of things. So I did 'enlightenment_remote -restart', and it
went into a crash/restart loop. There were logs at the console about
e_randr2 being in an infinite loop. This continued after I killed and
restarted E. I had to remove some config files from ~/.e to allow me
to get back into E.

I'll look into setting up profiles. It's not obvious how you can have
multiple simultaneous profiles on different screens. Having said that,
I'm @ work and can't muck around with it right now.

Thanks for the responses :)

Dan

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