Re: [e-users] Re: [E-devel] Idea for core mixer module

2006-01-22 Thread Andreas Volz
Am Sat, 21 Jan 2006 23:33:07 +0100 schrieb Morten Nilsen:

 Andreas Volz wrote:
  I think the best solution is the good old one that everyone use.. 
  speaker icon, when clicked, you get a single master volume
  slider.. doubleclick, and a full mixer table pops up, with all the
  channels.
  The sliders are perfect for applications, but have a big
  disadvantage on the desktop. - They use much space.
 
 which is why one don't display them all the time. a mixer shouldn't 
 always be visible, imo.

Ok, perhaps you're right. But then the mixer needs an extension that
controls the sound by multmedia keys on my keyboard. The gnome overlay
mixer panel doesn't integrate well into E. Or does this function belong
to a new module?

regards
Andreas


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Re: [e-users] Re: [E-devel] Idea for core mixer module

2006-01-22 Thread Johan Verrept



Ok, perhaps you're right. But then the mixer needs an extension that
controls the sound by multmedia keys on my keyboard. The gnome overlay
mixer panel doesn't integrate well into E. Or does this function belong
to a new module?
 


euhm, why not use an external tool like hotkeys?

http://freshmeat.net/projects/hotkeys/

works perfectly.

   J.


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Re: [e-users] Re: [E-devel] Idea for core mixer module

2006-01-22 Thread Andreas Volz
Am Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:22:40 +0100 schrieb Johan Verrept:

 
 Ok, perhaps you're right. But then the mixer needs an extension that
 controls the sound by multmedia keys on my keyboard. The gnome
 overlay mixer panel doesn't integrate well into E. Or does this
 function belong to a new module?
   
 
 euhm, why not use an external tool like hotkeys?
 
 http://freshmeat.net/projects/hotkeys/
 
 works perfectly.

This may be, but does it also show the current volume while changing as
onscreen display? The gnome one does it:

http://brachttal.net/tmp/gnome-volume.jpg

Problem is that it forces fullscreen windows to unfullscreen. So it's
unusable while watching videos.

regards
Andreas


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Re: [e-users] Re: [E-devel] Idea for core mixer module

2006-01-22 Thread Johan Verrept



This may be, but does it also show the current volume while changing as
onscreen display? The gnome one does it:

http://brachttal.net/tmp/gnome-volume.jpg

Problem is that it forces fullscreen windows to unfullscreen. So it's
unusable while watching videos.
 

ok. but do you need to have the hotkey support in th app to detect the 
changes in volume?
If the app would just detect the change in volume and pop up a window, 
it would work with all ways of changing the volume setting. I don't know 
if the gnome uses some sort of gnome magic or if it is something alsa 
supports.


   J.


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Re: [e-users] Re: [E-devel] Idea for core mixer module

2006-01-22 Thread Thomas Kuther


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Re: [e-users] Re: [E-devel] Idea for core mixer module

2006-01-22 Thread Thomas Kuther
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:22:40 +0100
Johan Verrept [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Ok, perhaps you're right. But then the mixer needs an extension that
 controls the sound by multmedia keys on my keyboard. The gnome
 overlay mixer panel doesn't integrate well into E. Or does this
 function belong to a new module?
   
 
 euhm, why not use an external tool like hotkeys?
 
 http://freshmeat.net/projects/hotkeys/
 
 works perfectly.
 
 J.

oops, sorry for last encrypted mail.. 

you don't need any hotkeys daemon, we have e17 keybindings.. amixer ..
a script ;)

but a small LED like display or a poti indeed would be cool. maybe
evolume could be enhanced to a mini mode



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Re: [e-users] Re: [E-devel] Idea for core mixer module

2006-01-22 Thread Andrew Spott
something to keep in mind though.evolume crashes E17 when alsasound daemon is stopped... which makes it kind of useless for laptops where it has to be stopped and started when the computer sleeps.so that bug might want to be addressed before expanding evolume.
-AndrewOn 1/22/06, Thomas Kuther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:22:40 +0100Johan Verrept [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, perhaps you're right. But then the mixer needs an extension that
 controls the sound by multmedia keys on my keyboard. The gnome overlay mixer panel doesn't integrate well into E. Or does this function belong to a new module?  
 euhm, why not use an external tool like hotkeys? http://freshmeat.net/projects/hotkeys/ works perfectly. J.
oops, sorry for last encrypted mail..you don't need any hotkeys daemon, we have e17 keybindings.. amixer ..a script ;)but a small LED like display or a poti indeed would be cool. maybeevolume could be enhanced to a mini mode
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[e-users] Re: [E-devel] Idea for core mixer module

2006-01-21 Thread Morten Nilsen

Michael Hughes wrote:

Bjornar Ness

I think that animated knobs are hard manipulate with a mouse pointer and 
they have to be quite large to work at all.  You can go to hardware such 


real-world metaphors make for poor UI.. don't use them.

the sliders are fine, I just don't think they should be visible all the 
time..


I think the best solution is the good old one that everyone use.. 
speaker icon, when clicked, you get a single master volume slider.. 
doubleclick, and a full mixer table pops up, with all the channels.


Cheers,
--
Morten
:wq


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Re: [e-users] Re: [E-devel] Idea for core mixer module

2006-01-21 Thread Andreas Volz
Am Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:02:16 +0100 schrieb Morten Nilsen:

  I think that animated knobs are hard manipulate with a mouse
  pointer and they have to be quite large to work at all.  You can go
  to hardware such 
 
 real-world metaphors make for poor UI.. don't use them.
 
 the sliders are fine, I just don't think they should be visible all
 the time..

In my experience they're everytime not visible if you need them. But
many modules have this problem (clock too). So the best is to
design modules as small as possible/usable. Not?

 I think the best solution is the good old one that everyone use.. 
 speaker icon, when clicked, you get a single master volume slider.. 
 doubleclick, and a full mixer table pops up, with all the channels.

The sliders are perfect for applications, but have a big disadvantage
on the desktop. - They use much space.

regards
Andreas


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