Re: [e-users] Sylpheed-Claws and Window remember
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:56:39 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:37:33 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have on the TOD a window info dialog page. that woudl give you name, class, role, type, - in fact all the properties e has read from the window and stored. I look forward to this dialog. Not everybody is as persistent as me when it comes to finding a combination that works for recalcitrant proggies. Something that provides some actual information will help a lot. for now u have xprop :) - but i do plan such a dialog - it's been on the TODO for a while :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Sylpheed-Claws and Window remember
Hello, I'm using Sylpheed-Claws version 2.0.0-rc1 and upgraded E right now. The sylpheed-claws window wont remember its position, size, virtual desktop... Not sure, but i think this began with this version of sylpheed-claws. Dano --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Sylpheed-Claws and Window remember
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 00:10:48 +0100 Dano [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hello, I'm using Sylpheed-Claws version 2.0.0-rc1 and upgraded E right now. The sylpheed-claws window wont remember its position, size, virtual desktop... Not sure, but i think this began with this version of sylpheed-claws. does it give you options to remember them? it is possible it is manually (sylpheed) setting these values on start and thus the remembered info is not able to work as the app is overriding it. you can lock the app out of making such changed using locks. Dano --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Sylpheed-Claws and Window remember
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 00:10:48 +0100 Dano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm using Sylpheed-Claws version 2.0.0-rc1 and upgraded E right now. The sylpheed-claws window wont remember its position, size, virtual desktop... Not sure, but i think this began with this version of sylpheed-claws. Dano I already talked to raster about this... he was pretty sure it was some corner case of ICCCM hints or something like that. If you check out the WM_HINTS for it using xprop, you'll notice that it says that it wants to start iconified for whatever reason, and if you restart E, it will indeed be iconified. My guess (totally unfounded) is that E expects it to start iconified, but then doesn't do it, which makes it ignore the remembered position, size, and desktop (since it's supposed to start minimized anyway). Could definitely be wrong about that... someone should probably look into it more closely. Jesse --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Sylpheed-Claws and Window remember
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:26:10 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 00:10:48 +0100 Dano [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hello, I'm using Sylpheed-Claws version 2.0.0-rc1 and upgraded E right now. The sylpheed-claws window wont remember its position, size, virtual desktop... Not sure, but i think this began with this version of sylpheed-claws. does it give you options to remember them? it is possible it is manually (sylpheed) setting these values on start and thus the remembered info is not able to work as the app is overriding it. you can lock the app out of making such changed using locks. sylpheed-claws changes the window title to add the name of the account you are using at the time. It won't do that until after the remember settings kick in. I don't know about other relevant things it may change, because you have not added the strings to the remember dialog like I keep asking you to. sylpheed-claws is a bitch to get remember stuff working with for exactly this reason. You can get it to remember with some experimentation, but then it remembers for sub windows as well. More experimentation can get you a remember setup that works for all it's sub windows too. Then the config format changes, and all remember settings are deleted, and you have to start all over again. By all that is holy, display the strings/values that you will be matching on in the remember dialog to make this process a lot easier. Did you mention that globbing worked? That MIGHT help, but I won't know know for sure until I see the strings. pgp2jyNWVoPcd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] Sylpheed-Claws and Window remember
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:49:13 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:26:10 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 00:10:48 +0100 Dano [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hello, I'm using Sylpheed-Claws version 2.0.0-rc1 and upgraded E right now. The sylpheed-claws window wont remember its position, size, virtual desktop... Not sure, but i think this began with this version of sylpheed-claws. does it give you options to remember them? it is possible it is manually (sylpheed) setting these values on start and thus the remembered info is not able to work as the app is overriding it. you can lock the app out of making such changed using locks. sylpheed-claws changes the window title to add the name of the account you are using at the time. It won't do that until after the remember settings kick in. I don't know about other relevant things it it depends how you tell it to remember. by default title is not used as it is sometimes a volatile property u cant be sure will be the same between executions and on startup. name and class shoudl work with most well behaved apps. may change, because you have not added the strings to the remember dialog like I keep asking you to. sylpheed-claws is a bitch to get there is no point adding them. title is not rememebred WHEN u select the rememeber properties in the dialg - if the tile changes e updates the rememebr properties - so it's whatever the title is right now. name and class are not really needed to be visible as they shoudl be unique to that app. if they are not the rememebr dialog WILL complain and tell you they are not unique (as it finds other windows with the same name and class) etc. i've made it work without needing to know the values -a s showing them is misleading as e tracks them as they change. remember stuff working with for exactly this reason. You can get it to remember with some experimentation, but then it remembers for sub windows as well. More experimentation can get you a remember setup if apps dont change name and class for subwindows there is not much we can do. name and class are intended to be fixed for a window once created. title can change. e tracks this. title is not a useufl thing generally touse to match on. thats why there's window type and transience as dialogs are mostly transient (unless u are firefox :) - like the download manager dialog) or they may provide differentiating netwm window types. that works for all it's sub windows too. Then the config format changes, and all remember settings are deleted, and you have to start all over again. By all that is holy, display the strings/values that you will be matching on in the remember dialog to make this process a lot easier. see above. they will be misleading. it displays a title now - EXACTLY what u see on the window. then in 3 seconds when the title changes e modifies its remember info to match. name and class it detects if other windows are around it knows it may clash with. i don't WANt to display those propetties ther because they just are misleading. i have on the TOD a window info dialog page. that woudl give you name, class, role, type, - in fact all the properties e has read from the window and stored. Did you mention that globbing worked? That MIGHT help, but I won't know know for sure until I see the strings. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Sylpheed-Claws and Window remember
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:49:13 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: sylpheed-claws changes the window title to add the name of the account you are using at the time. It won't do that until after the remember settings kick in. I don't know about other relevant things it it depends how you tell it to remember. by default title is not used as it is sometimes a volatile property u cant be sure will be the same between executions and on startup. name and class shoudl work with most well behaved apps. apparently, mozilla gtk builds aren't well behaved :P -- Morten --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Sylpheed-Claws and Window remember
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:37:33 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have on the TOD a window info dialog page. that woudl give you name, class, role, type, - in fact all the properties e has read from the window and stored. I look forward to this dialog. Not everybody is as persistent as me when it comes to finding a combination that works for recalcitrant proggies. Something that provides some actual information will help a lot. pgpfZszOcLcPs.pgp Description: PGP signature
