Re: [e-users] switch to/from multi monitor setup

2014-03-04 Thread David Moylan
On 03/03/2014 09:15 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 19:12:42 -0800 David Moylan dmoy...@daxunlimited.com 
 said:

 On 03/03/2014 05:38 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 16:26:10 -0800 David Moylan dmoy...@daxunlimited.com
 said:

 On my laptop I plugged in an external monitor.  Everything worked fine.
 However, when I disconnected the external monitor it didn't revert to a
 single monitor state.  The windows that were on the external monitor are
 still offscreen and if I scroll off the screen in that direction the
 mouse disappears as if it's on the phantom screen.  Only one monitor is
 shown under screen settings.  Is there a way to manually go back to
 single screen mode?
 screen setup dialog.
 How so?  Screen Setup dialog only shows one monitor (which is correct)
 but doesn't give me any options to rectify the situation.
 tried dragging it around? if a mini monitor icon is inside of it - click it
 (this indicates cloning). this dialog should be showing the current screen
 setup/state and let you modify it.
Yeah, I've tried changing the resolution by dragging the corner of the 
single monitor shown.  That does change the resolution, but doesn't do 
anything to affect the phantom monitor.  No other icon is shown inside 
the single monitor. xrandr output shows only the single monitor 
connected.  Other options are all listed as disconnected. Reconnecting 
the external monitor is fine as well and the existing windows are all 
still there.
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Re: [e-users] switch to/from multi monitor setup

2014-03-04 Thread Stefano
On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 16:26:10 -0800
DM wrote:

 On my laptop I plugged in an external monitor.  Everything worked fine.  
 However, when I disconnected the external monitor it didn't revert to a 
 single monitor state.  The windows that were on the external monitor are 
 still offscreen and if I scroll off the screen in that direction the 
 mouse disappears as if it's on the phantom screen.  Only one monitor is 
 shown under screen settings.  Is there a way to manually go back to 
 single screen mode?
 

If you left-click on the desktop and go to Windows, are the missing windows
listed? If so you could try to click cleanup windows in the same menu.

Not ideal, but it would be at least something.

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Re: [e-users] switch to/from multi monitor setup

2014-03-04 Thread David Moylan
On 03/04/2014 11:38 AM, Stefano wrote:
 On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 16:26:10 -0800
 DM wrote:

 On my laptop I plugged in an external monitor.  Everything worked fine.
 However, when I disconnected the external monitor it didn't revert to a
 single monitor state.  The windows that were on the external monitor are
 still offscreen and if I scroll off the screen in that direction the
 mouse disappears as if it's on the phantom screen.  Only one monitor is
 shown under screen settings.  Is there a way to manually go back to
 single screen mode?

 If you left-click on the desktop and go to Windows, are the missing windows
 listed? If so you could try to click cleanup windows in the same menu.

 Not ideal, but it would be at least something.

 Best,

Nope, they're not listed.  It's as if the external monitor still exists 
to E, though not in the Display Settings dialog.


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Re: [e-users] switch to/from multi monitor setup

2014-03-04 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 05:56:19 -0800 David Moylan dmoy...@daxunlimited.com said:

 On 03/03/2014 09:15 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 19:12:42 -0800 David Moylan dmoy...@daxunlimited.com
  said:
 
  On 03/03/2014 05:38 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 16:26:10 -0800 David Moylan dmoy...@daxunlimited.com
  said:
 
  On my laptop I plugged in an external monitor.  Everything worked fine.
  However, when I disconnected the external monitor it didn't revert to a
  single monitor state.  The windows that were on the external monitor are
  still offscreen and if I scroll off the screen in that direction the
  mouse disappears as if it's on the phantom screen.  Only one monitor is
  shown under screen settings.  Is there a way to manually go back to
  single screen mode?
  screen setup dialog.
  How so?  Screen Setup dialog only shows one monitor (which is correct)
  but doesn't give me any options to rectify the situation.
  tried dragging it around? if a mini monitor icon is inside of it - click it
  (this indicates cloning). this dialog should be showing the current screen
  setup/state and let you modify it.
 Yeah, I've tried changing the resolution by dragging the corner of the 
 single monitor shown.  That does change the resolution, but doesn't do 
 anything to affect the phantom monitor.  No other icon is shown inside 
 the single monitor. xrandr output shows only the single monitor 
 connected.  Other options are all listed as disconnected. Reconnecting 
 the external monitor is fine as well and the existing windows are all 
 still there.

hmm ok. then we don't have an e error here...

either

  1. xserver is broken - randr just has no idea whats going on, and e just knows
what randr tells it, so not much we can do...

OR

  2. you aren't using randr... you're using old-fashioned multihead setup and
you have another SCREEN there. xdpyinfo will list all screens - normally you
have only screen #0, but if you have multihead you'll have screen #1 (or more).
there is no way to dynamically configure this via x, so you must have
configured this via xorg.conf or some custom driver-specific tool, but if you
have multihead... it's in your ballcourt as there is no way we can modify it,
configure it or otherwise de-configure it for you.

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Re: [e-users] switch to/from multi monitor setup

2014-03-04 Thread David Moylan
On 03/04/2014 01:50 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 05:56:19 -0800 David Moylan dmoy...@daxunlimited.com 
 said:

 On 03/03/2014 09:15 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 19:12:42 -0800 David Moylan dmoy...@daxunlimited.com
 said:

 On 03/03/2014 05:38 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 16:26:10 -0800 David Moylan dmoy...@daxunlimited.com
 said:

 On my laptop I plugged in an external monitor.  Everything worked fine.
 However, when I disconnected the external monitor it didn't revert to a
 single monitor state.  The windows that were on the external monitor are
 still offscreen and if I scroll off the screen in that direction the
 mouse disappears as if it's on the phantom screen.  Only one monitor is
 shown under screen settings.  Is there a way to manually go back to
 single screen mode?
 screen setup dialog.
 How so?  Screen Setup dialog only shows one monitor (which is correct)
 but doesn't give me any options to rectify the situation.
 tried dragging it around? if a mini monitor icon is inside of it - click it
 (this indicates cloning). this dialog should be showing the current screen
 setup/state and let you modify it.
 Yeah, I've tried changing the resolution by dragging the corner of the
 single monitor shown.  That does change the resolution, but doesn't do
 anything to affect the phantom monitor.  No other icon is shown inside
 the single monitor. xrandr output shows only the single monitor
 connected.  Other options are all listed as disconnected. Reconnecting
 the external monitor is fine as well and the existing windows are all
 still there.
 hmm ok. then we don't have an e error here...

 either

1. xserver is broken - randr just has no idea whats going on, and e just 
 knows
 what randr tells it, so not much we can do...

 OR

2. you aren't using randr... you're using old-fashioned multihead setup and
 you have another SCREEN there. xdpyinfo will list all screens - normally you
 have only screen #0, but if you have multihead you'll have screen #1 (or 
 more).
 there is no way to dynamically configure this via x, so you must have
 configured this via xorg.conf or some custom driver-specific tool, but if you
 have multihead... it's in your ballcourt as there is no way we can modify it,
 configure it or otherwise de-configure it for you.

I believe xrandr knows what's happening.  When external monitor is 
connected, it shows 2 monitors.  When disconnected it only shows the 
primary monitor connected.  So that's all correct.  xdpyinfo shows only 
one monitor whether the external is connected or not.  So, I don't think 
I'm using that method.  If e is using xrandr than it should have the 
correct info on the monitor config.  I assume it is getting correct info 
because the Screen Setup panel shows the correct layout of monitors 
whether the external is connected or disconnected.  However, the 
configuration of the desktops when switching from 2 monitors to 1 does 
not update.  It updated correctly when going from 1 to 2, but now it's 
stuck in that state.

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Re: [e-users] switch to/from multi monitor setup

2014-03-04 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 14:26:37 -0800 David Moylan dmoy...@daxunlimited.com said:

 On 03/04/2014 01:50 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 05:56:19 -0800 David Moylan dmoy...@daxunlimited.com
  said:
 
  On 03/03/2014 09:15 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 19:12:42 -0800 David Moylan dmoy...@daxunlimited.com
  said:
 
  On 03/03/2014 05:38 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 16:26:10 -0800 David Moylan
  dmoy...@daxunlimited.com said:
 
  On my laptop I plugged in an external monitor.  Everything worked fine.
  However, when I disconnected the external monitor it didn't revert to a
  single monitor state.  The windows that were on the external monitor
  are still offscreen and if I scroll off the screen in that direction
  the mouse disappears as if it's on the phantom screen.  Only one
  monitor is shown under screen settings.  Is there a way to manually go
  back to single screen mode?
  screen setup dialog.
  How so?  Screen Setup dialog only shows one monitor (which is correct)
  but doesn't give me any options to rectify the situation.
  tried dragging it around? if a mini monitor icon is inside of it - click
  it (this indicates cloning). this dialog should be showing the current
  screen setup/state and let you modify it.
  Yeah, I've tried changing the resolution by dragging the corner of the
  single monitor shown.  That does change the resolution, but doesn't do
  anything to affect the phantom monitor.  No other icon is shown inside
  the single monitor. xrandr output shows only the single monitor
  connected.  Other options are all listed as disconnected. Reconnecting
  the external monitor is fine as well and the existing windows are all
  still there.
  hmm ok. then we don't have an e error here...
 
  either
 
 1. xserver is broken - randr just has no idea whats going on, and e just
  knows what randr tells it, so not much we can do...
 
  OR
 
 2. you aren't using randr... you're using old-fashioned multihead setup
  and you have another SCREEN there. xdpyinfo will list all screens -
  normally you have only screen #0, but if you have multihead you'll have
  screen #1 (or more). there is no way to dynamically configure this via x,
  so you must have configured this via xorg.conf or some custom
  driver-specific tool, but if you have multihead... it's in your ballcourt
  as there is no way we can modify it, configure it or otherwise de-configure
  it for you.
 
 I believe xrandr knows what's happening.  When external monitor is 
 connected, it shows 2 monitors.  When disconnected it only shows the 
 primary monitor connected.  So that's all correct.  xdpyinfo shows only 
 one monitor whether the external is connected or not.  So, I don't think 
 I'm using that method.  If e is using xrandr than it should have the 
 correct info on the monitor config.  I assume it is getting correct info 
 because the Screen Setup panel shows the correct layout of monitors 
 whether the external is connected or disconnected.  However, the 
 configuration of the desktops when switching from 2 monitors to 1 does 
 not update.  It updated correctly when going from 1 to 2, but now it's 
 stuck in that state.

well if xrandr is showing 1 screen, then screen setup should too - and then
your mouse should not go off the edge... but it does... it sounds like you have
somehow hit a bug in x where xrandr state does not match the actual one...

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[e-users] switch to/from multi monitor setup

2014-03-03 Thread David Moylan
On my laptop I plugged in an external monitor.  Everything worked fine.  
However, when I disconnected the external monitor it didn't revert to a 
single monitor state.  The windows that were on the external monitor are 
still offscreen and if I scroll off the screen in that direction the 
mouse disappears as if it's on the phantom screen.  Only one monitor is 
shown under screen settings.  Is there a way to manually go back to 
single screen mode?

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Re: [e-users] switch to/from multi monitor setup

2014-03-03 Thread Christopher Barry
Use xrandr to reset
 On Mar 3, 2014 7:27 PM, David Moylan dmoy...@daxunlimited.com wrote:

 On my laptop I plugged in an external monitor.  Everything worked fine.
 However, when I disconnected the external monitor it didn't revert to a
 single monitor state.  The windows that were on the external monitor are
 still offscreen and if I scroll off the screen in that direction the
 mouse disappears as if it's on the phantom screen.  Only one monitor is
 shown under screen settings.  Is there a way to manually go back to
 single screen mode?

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Re: [e-users] switch to/from multi monitor setup

2014-03-03 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 16:26:10 -0800 David Moylan dmoy...@daxunlimited.com said:

 On my laptop I plugged in an external monitor.  Everything worked fine.  
 However, when I disconnected the external monitor it didn't revert to a 
 single monitor state.  The windows that were on the external monitor are 
 still offscreen and if I scroll off the screen in that direction the 
 mouse disappears as if it's on the phantom screen.  Only one monitor is 
 shown under screen settings.  Is there a way to manually go back to 
 single screen mode?

screen setup dialog.

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Re: [e-users] switch to/from multi monitor setup

2014-03-03 Thread David Moylan
On 03/03/2014 05:38 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 16:26:10 -0800 David Moylan dmoy...@daxunlimited.com 
 said:

 On my laptop I plugged in an external monitor.  Everything worked fine.
 However, when I disconnected the external monitor it didn't revert to a
 single monitor state.  The windows that were on the external monitor are
 still offscreen and if I scroll off the screen in that direction the
 mouse disappears as if it's on the phantom screen.  Only one monitor is
 shown under screen settings.  Is there a way to manually go back to
 single screen mode?
 screen setup dialog.
How so?  Screen Setup dialog only shows one monitor (which is correct) 
but doesn't give me any options to rectify the situation.


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