Re: [e-users] Releases

[Simon Lees]

On 10/11/2015 11:54 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 21:22:16 +0200 Wolfgang Morawetz
>  said:
>
>> Hi,
>> on https://www.enlightenment.org/download
>> can you read about the latest sourcecode releases but
>> you dont write down that the wont work with each other.
>>
>> Looks wrong for me.
> eh? won't work with eachother?
>
>
Maybe he's talking about the fact e19.12 requires efl 1.15.2? Which was 
mentioned in the release notes.



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Re: [e-users] Releases

[The Rasterman]

On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:48:17 +1030 Simon Lees  said:

> 
> 
> On 10/11/2015 11:54 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 21:22:16 +0200 Wolfgang Morawetz
> >  said:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> on https://www.enlightenment.org/download
> >> can you read about the latest sourcecode releases but
> >> you dont write down that the wont work with each other.
> >>
> >> Looks wrong for me.
> > eh? won't work with eachother?
> >
> >
> Maybe he's talking about the fact e19.12 requires efl 1.15.2? Which was 
> mentioned in the release notes.

why do we need to start listing all of that there? get the latest of anything.
you will find out soon enough when you run configure and it tells you what is
missing.

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Re: [e-users] Releases

[Wolfgang Morawetz]

The released application like eventor 0.6.0 do not work with the released 
version of efl 1.15.2

I think it would be nicer to give some sidenote about this. To list all 
releases let someone think the work with each other's. 



 Carsten Haitzler schrieb 

>On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:48:17 +1030 Simon Lees  said:
>
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/11/2015 11:54 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>> > On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 21:22:16 +0200 Wolfgang Morawetz
>> >  said:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >> on https://www.enlightenment.org/download
>> >> can you read about the latest sourcecode releases but
>> >> you dont write down that the wont work with each other.
>> >>
>> >> Looks wrong for me.
>> > eh? won't work with eachother?
>> >
>> >
>> Maybe he's talking about the fact e19.12 requires efl 1.15.2? Which was 
>> mentioned in the release notes.
>
>why do we need to start listing all of that there? get the latest of anything.
>you will find out soon enough when you run configure and it tells you what is
>missing.
>
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Re: [e-users] Releases

[The Rasterman]

On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 12:54:37 +0200 Wolfgang Morawetz
 said:

> The released application like eventor 0.6.0 do not work with the released
> version of efl 1.15.2
> 
> I think it would be nicer to give some sidenote about this. To list all
> releases let someone think the work with each other's. 

enventor's release manager/maintainer needs to handle this - that page should
NOT go listing specific release info as it's basically a nightmare to then
maintain it in parallel to readme's and what is in each and every app.

as such nothing should get a release that doesn't work against the latest
official efl release at the time it is released (it should also work against
future versions too - but a break would imply an abi/api break in efl we have
to fix, or the app relied on undefined behavior or mis-used api's and new
updates got stricter or .. changed undefined behavior).

>  Carsten Haitzler schrieb 
> 
> >On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:48:17 +1030 Simon Lees  said:
> >
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 10/11/2015 11:54 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> >> > On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 21:22:16 +0200 Wolfgang Morawetz
> >> >  said:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> on https://www.enlightenment.org/download
> >> >> can you read about the latest sourcecode releases but
> >> >> you dont write down that the wont work with each other.
> >> >>
> >> >> Looks wrong for me.
> >> > eh? won't work with eachother?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Maybe he's talking about the fact e19.12 requires efl 1.15.2? Which was 
> >> mentioned in the release notes.
> >
> >why do we need to start listing all of that there? get the latest of
> >anything. you will find out soon enough when you run configure and it tells
> >you what is missing.
> >
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Re: [e-users] Releases

[marcel-hollerbach]

I think what wfx means is that enventor is not working with 1.15.2, but
e forces you to use 1.15.2, so you have the decision, use up to date e
or enventor.

On enventor side the problem are the .eo files which are incompatible
with 1.15.2 because of the new eolian syntax.

Greetings bu5hm4n

On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 09:23:15PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 12:54:37 +0200 Wolfgang Morawetz
>  said:
> 
> > The released application like eventor 0.6.0 do not work with the released
> > version of efl 1.15.2
> > 
> > I think it would be nicer to give some sidenote about this. To list all
> > releases let someone think the work with each other's. 
> 
> enventor's release manager/maintainer needs to handle this - that page should
> NOT go listing specific release info as it's basically a nightmare to then
> maintain it in parallel to readme's and what is in each and every app.
> 
> as such nothing should get a release that doesn't work against the latest
> official efl release at the time it is released (it should also work against
> future versions too - but a break would imply an abi/api break in efl we have
> to fix, or the app relied on undefined behavior or mis-used api's and new
> updates got stricter or .. changed undefined behavior).
> 
> >  Carsten Haitzler schrieb 
> > 
> > >On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:48:17 +1030 Simon Lees  said:
> > >
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> On 10/11/2015 11:54 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > >> > On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 21:22:16 +0200 Wolfgang Morawetz
> > >> >  said:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hi,
> > >> >> on https://www.enlightenment.org/download
> > >> >> can you read about the latest sourcecode releases but
> > >> >> you dont write down that the wont work with each other.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Looks wrong for me.
> > >> > eh? won't work with eachother?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> Maybe he's talking about the fact e19.12 requires efl 1.15.2? Which was 
> > >> mentioned in the release notes.
> > >
> > >why do we need to start listing all of that there? get the latest of
> > >anything. you will find out soon enough when you run configure and it tells
> > >you what is missing.
> > >
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Re: [e-users] Releases

[The Rasterman]

On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 21:25:18 +0200 marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de said:

> I think what wfx means is that enventor is not working with 1.15.2, but
> e forces you to use 1.15.2, so you have the decision, use up to date e
> or enventor.
> 
> On enventor side the problem are the .eo files which are incompatible
> with 1.15.2 because of the new eolian syntax.

fundamental bug in relying on eo in a RELEASED piece of sw. eo/eolian are
unstable. they break.

> Greetings bu5hm4n
> 
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 09:23:15PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 12:54:37 +0200 Wolfgang Morawetz
> >  said:
> > 
> > > The released application like eventor 0.6.0 do not work with the released
> > > version of efl 1.15.2
> > > 
> > > I think it would be nicer to give some sidenote about this. To list all
> > > releases let someone think the work with each other's. 
> > 
> > enventor's release manager/maintainer needs to handle this - that page
> > should NOT go listing specific release info as it's basically a nightmare
> > to then maintain it in parallel to readme's and what is in each and every
> > app.
> > 
> > as such nothing should get a release that doesn't work against the latest
> > official efl release at the time it is released (it should also work against
> > future versions too - but a break would imply an abi/api break in efl we
> > have to fix, or the app relied on undefined behavior or mis-used api's and
> > new updates got stricter or .. changed undefined behavior).
> > 
> > >  Carsten Haitzler schrieb 
> > > 
> > > >On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:48:17 +1030 Simon Lees  said:
> > > >
> > > >> 
> > > >> 
> > > >> On 10/11/2015 11:54 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > > >> > On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 21:22:16 +0200 Wolfgang Morawetz
> > > >> >  said:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Hi,
> > > >> >> on https://www.enlightenment.org/download
> > > >> >> can you read about the latest sourcecode releases but
> > > >> >> you dont write down that the wont work with each other.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Looks wrong for me.
> > > >> > eh? won't work with eachother?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> Maybe he's talking about the fact e19.12 requires efl 1.15.2? Which
> > > >> was mentioned in the release notes.
> > > >
> > > >why do we need to start listing all of that there? get the latest of
> > > >anything. you will find out soon enough when you run configure and it
> > > >tells you what is missing.
> > > >
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Re: [e-users] Releases

[Markus Törnqvist]

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 05:47:44AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>
>fundamental bug in relying on eo in a RELEASED piece of sw. eo/eolian are
>unstable. they break.

I disabled Enventor from my build script because of fails, to be investigated
later.

That makes me think should it be "un-released"? Or is there an estimate
for eo/eolian stability?

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Re: [e-users] Releases

[The Rasterman]

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 21:22:16 +0200 Wolfgang Morawetz
 said:

> Hi,
> on https://www.enlightenment.org/download
> can you read about the latest sourcecode releases but
> you dont write down that the wont work with each other.
> 
> Looks wrong for me.

eh? won't work with eachother?


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