[EPEL-devel] EPEL for z Systems s390x

2015-06-23 Thread Filipe Miranda
Hello,

I would like to suggest a great addition to the EPEL, the z Systems 
architecture (s390x).
I have seem a great number of requests around EPEL for z Systems, its 
definitely a growing platform around Linux as IBM keeps offering better and 
more efficient servers that are basically a datacenter in a box - which is a 
great way for customers to reduce costs by consolidating Linux workloads.
EPEL repository to s390x can be a great way to allow customers to try an 
unsupported package that still not available to RHEL on z Systems - that can in 
time mature, and can skip some of the processes to make into the RHEL for z 
Systems distro.

The idea is to offer more technology options (Fedora Packages) to customers 
using RHEL on z Systems - this can flag us what packages are customers really 
interested into for RHEL on z Systems that are still not available in the 
Enterprise distro.
Please let’s brainstorm this suggestion here, IBMers, community members, Fedora 
members, RedHatter, you are all welcome to join this discussion.

Thank you,


Kind Regards,

Filipe Miranda
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Global Lead for Red Hat Products on IBM z Systems and Power Systems
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Re: [EPEL-devel] EPEL for z Systems s390x

2015-06-23 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 09:11:17 AM Dan Callaghan wrote:
 Excerpts from Bryan Chan's message of 2015-06-24 08:29 +10:00:
  Dan Horák d...@danny.cz wrote on 2015-06-23 02:31:23 PM:
   On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:52:41 -0400
   
   Filipe Miranda fmira...@redhat.com wrote:
This can be addressed maybe by IBM, by offering build systems to
help developers test their packages.
   
   Ack, that's something for IBM, from Red Hat side it would require
   providing RHEL for System z subscriptions to such devel systems.
   Currently we have one public guest running Fedora available to the
   community, so it should be solvable. In addition to real HW there are 2
   solutions capable running current Linux distributions under emulation.
  
  Dan, could you elaborate on the emulation aspect? Do you mean IBM zPDT
  and Hercules? I am curious if you are using emulation in the build farm
  today.
  
  IBM is currently engaging open-source software companies to encourage
  support for the platform. IBM partners can essentially get access to
  hardware for development purposes at a discount.
  
  For the community, we have a program called Community Development
  System for Linux on z, whereby open source projects can sign up for
  free access to Linux guests on our z Systems (for a limited time):
  
  http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/linux/support/community.html
  
  During registration, you can request a RHEL installation. I am not
  sure whether it comes with a RHN subscription.
  
  Other community hardware access options are now being considered, and
  I hope something more streamlined can be announced soon.
 
 One possibility is to make some z/VM guests available to approved Fedora
 contributors using beaker.fedoraproject.org, the same way that Red Hat
 engineers can use our internal Beaker instance to reserve z/VM guests.
 
 I would love to see the arches that people don't have at home, like
 ppc64 and aarch64, on beaker.fedoraproject.org too.
 
 The only big unresolved issue with beaker.fedoraproject.org right now is
 how to hook up FAS authentication. I haven't had a chance to figure that
 out yet.

A bigger issue would be having a z series machine that can be tied into 
fedora's beaker instance. Considering that there is none in Fedora space 
today. I do not imagine IT or Red Hat Security allowing some tunnel into the 
systems inside of  Red Hat. Assuming we can find hardware then sure would be 
great.

Dennis

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Re: [EPEL-devel] EPEL for z Systems s390x

2015-06-23 Thread Dan Callaghan
Excerpts from Bryan Chan's message of 2015-06-24 08:29 +10:00:
 Dan Horák d...@danny.cz wrote on 2015-06-23 02:31:23 PM:
  On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:52:41 -0400
  Filipe Miranda fmira...@redhat.com wrote:
   This can be addressed maybe by IBM, by offering build systems to 
   help developers test their packages.
 
  Ack, that's something for IBM, from Red Hat side it would require
  providing RHEL for System z subscriptions to such devel systems.
  Currently we have one public guest running Fedora available to the
  community, so it should be solvable. In addition to real HW there are 2
  solutions capable running current Linux distributions under emulation.
 
 Dan, could you elaborate on the emulation aspect? Do you mean IBM zPDT
 and Hercules? I am curious if you are using emulation in the build farm
 today.
 
 IBM is currently engaging open-source software companies to encourage
 support for the platform. IBM partners can essentially get access to
 hardware for development purposes at a discount.
 
 For the community, we have a program called Community Development
 System for Linux on z, whereby open source projects can sign up for
 free access to Linux guests on our z Systems (for a limited time):
 
 http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/linux/support/community.html
 
 During registration, you can request a RHEL installation. I am not
 sure whether it comes with a RHN subscription.
 
 Other community hardware access options are now being considered, and
 I hope something more streamlined can be announced soon.

One possibility is to make some z/VM guests available to approved Fedora 
contributors using beaker.fedoraproject.org, the same way that Red Hat 
engineers can use our internal Beaker instance to reserve z/VM guests.

I would love to see the arches that people don't have at home, like 
ppc64 and aarch64, on beaker.fedoraproject.org too.

The only big unresolved issue with beaker.fedoraproject.org right now is 
how to hook up FAS authentication. I haven't had a chance to figure that 
out yet.

-- 
Dan Callaghan dcall...@redhat.com
Senior Software Engineer, Products  Technologies Operations
Red Hat, Inc.


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