[eug-lug]SUSE 8.1 Professional

2003-09-13 Thread Jim K
  I spent the last week trying to set-up my machine as a dual boot 
with windows and linux.  I have used up another windows 98SE
CD .   I was wondering has anybody else had problems with windows 98 or 
ME on a disk with EXT3 partition on it?  especially
messed up superblocks, magic numbers( I think Magic numbers is right I 
am doing that one from memory,) or FAT 32 tables?
   I know windows puts in a back up FAT that could get out of sync( I 
found this out about 1999, I am not sure this is
the problem this time.) when the windows partition is accessed by a 
linux programs( this should be a function of the kernel, right?).
Jim K,

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Re: [eug-lug]SUSE 8.1 Professional

2003-09-13 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 04:08:19PM -0700, Jim K wrote:
   I spent the last week trying to set-up my machine as a dual boot 
 with windows and linux.  I have used up another windows 98SE
 CD .   I was wondering has anybody else had problems with windows 98 or 
 ME on a disk with EXT3 partition on it?  especially
 messed up superblocks, magic numbers( I think Magic numbers is right I 
 am doing that one from memory,) or FAT 32 tables?
I know windows puts in a back up FAT that could get out of sync( I 
 found this out about 1999, I am not sure this is
 the problem this time.) when the windows partition is accessed by a 
 linux programs( this should be a function of the kernel, right?).
 Jim K,

Usual way of doing this:

Use Linux to partition the disk.  Make the first partiton (hda1) your
Windows partition.  Create a small (10-20 meg) partition for hda2, then
create a big extended partiton to contain what other divisions you'd like,
your swap, etc.

Install Windows, but don't let it screw with any partitions other than the
first one.

Install Linux with /dev/hda2 as /boot.


Reason for this:

1. Windows MBR can be used to boot either OS if lilo is installed to
   /dev/hda2 instead of /dev/hda
2. lilo can be used to boot either OS if installed on /dev/hda
3. Windows has been known to slightly bork Linux installations, other than
   just the bootloader (which is fixable) if you install Linux first.
   Don't attribute malice to this, it's more like a Windows installer bug.
4. Doing it this way exposes you to the least amount of DOS partition
   table brain damage later on.

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Re: [eug-lug]SUSE 8.1 Professional

2003-09-13 Thread Jim K
I have installed windows on this machine 2-4 times a year in hda1 with 
lilo or grub mostly mandrake with no problem until
until last spring. When this disk problem popped up both times I had 
mandrake in an ext3 partition.  I have suse now and will
reinstall mandrake both in reiserfs partitions.  If I can get legal 
windows 98SE CD or between the ones I have already
form a workable one using linux utilities I will reinstall windows in a 
third partion.  I have a scrambled windows install in hda1
now.
Jim K
T. Joseph Carter wrote:

On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 04:08:19PM -0700, Jim K wrote:
 

 I spent the last week trying to set-up my machine as a dual boot 
with windows and linux.  I have used up another windows 98SE
CD .   I was wondering has anybody else had problems with windows 98 or 
ME on a disk with EXT3 partition on it?  especially
messed up superblocks, magic numbers( I think Magic numbers is right I 
am doing that one from memory,) or FAT 32 tables?
  I know windows puts in a back up FAT that could get out of sync( I 
found this out about 1999, I am not sure this is
the problem this time.) when the windows partition is accessed by a 
linux programs( this should be a function of the kernel, right?).
Jim K,
   

Usual way of doing this:

Use Linux to partition the disk.  Make the first partiton (hda1) your
Windows partition.  Create a small (10-20 meg) partition for hda2, then
create a big extended partiton to contain what other divisions you'd like,
your swap, etc.
Install Windows, but don't let it screw with any partitions other than the
first one.
Install Linux with /dev/hda2 as /boot.

Reason for this:

1. Windows MBR can be used to boot either OS if lilo is installed to
  /dev/hda2 instead of /dev/hda
2. lilo can be used to boot either OS if installed on /dev/hda
3. Windows has been known to slightly bork Linux installations, other than
  just the bootloader (which is fixable) if you install Linux first.
  Don't attribute malice to this, it's more like a Windows installer bug.
4. Doing it this way exposes you to the least amount of DOS partition
  table brain damage later on.
 



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Re: [eug-lug]SUSE 8.1 Professional

2003-09-13 Thread Jim K
 The support license has expired on the SUSE 8.1's. Oh well.
Jim K
Jim K wrote:
  I spent the last week trying to set-up my machine as a dual boot 
with windows and linux.  I have used up another windows 98SE
CD .   I was wondering has anybody else had problems with windows 98 
or ME on a disk with EXT3 partition on it?  especially
messed up superblocks, magic numbers( I think Magic numbers is right I 
am doing that one from memory,) or FAT 32 tables?
   I know windows puts in a back up FAT that could get out of sync( I 
found this out about 1999, I am not sure this is
the problem this time.) when the windows partition is accessed by a 
linux programs( this should be a function of the kernel, right?).
Jim K,

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[eug-lug]using a UPS

2003-09-13 Thread Mr O
How many are using a UPS on a linux system? What program are you
using to monitor? I have a Belkin UPS hooked up to my serial
port but haven't quite found software for it yet. Hoping for a
little advice before I go about breaking things. I read that if
you send the wrong commands to a smart UPS you can turn it into
a dump UPS real easily. Not something I want to do :)

Thanx,

Mr O.

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