Re: [eug-lug]RPM Woes
I know I might [now] get slammed for not using yum [yet], and maybe I'll be promoting it soon, but I'm still enjoying apt-get (apt-rpm) on redhat... there's a nice apt GUI tool call synaptic, which I'm sure some debian users know. It's real nice = ) regards, Ben PS - does anyone have some foresight about the future of apt-rpm channels and those of yum? I don't know much about yum... yet. On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 03:34:13 + Bob Crandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... | Redhat has an Add/Remove Programs utility that makes it easy to | adjust what you have installed from the CDs. I'm guessing there is a | way to tell it where you want to install from but I haven't put much | effort into finding where that is. So it doesn't do me much good here | when the server is over there. | ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]RPM Woes
Ben Barrett wrote: I know I might [now] get slammed for not using yum [yet], and maybe I'll be promoting it soon, but I'm still enjoying apt-get (apt-rpm) on redhat... there's a nice apt GUI tool call synaptic, which I'm sure some debian users know. It's real nice = ) I'm not getting warm fuzzies about the proliferation of package managers that TDFKAR (The Distribution Formerly Known As RedHat) is using. Package management and version synchronization is hard enough without introducing three different package managers all with slightly different semantics and slightly different sets of packages available. I predict a train wreck. -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]RPM Woes
Best RedHat yet.,.. unfortunately (since they're giving up on us in favor of corporate entities). I wanted to say, Worst... episode... ever! but that is just a fun Simpson's reference. Here's an idea, one could possibly say it tests a certain aspect of robustness within an OS: attempt to do what BobC did, with varying starting and finishing operating systems (that is clean install, then install *over* with another OS (not removing files) and see what breaks or works. It is generally a bad idea, but then again, if the (new, installed-over, operating) systems are well-designed they might work, even reliably. I imagine it would be best to compare linuxes this way; one would want the same filesystem at least and indeally some of the same core components (we're trying to get potential conflicts by this method). Anyone have too much curiosity AND time on their hands? regards, Ben On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 01:48:43 -0500 Linux Rocks ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Traitor! hehe... just teasing... so... how is redhat 9? would you use | it on your computer? | | Jamie | | On Saturday 15 November 2003 11:07 pm, Bob Crandell wrote: | : Hi, | : | : Just thought I'd let you know, at least the ones who care (if there | are: any), that reinstalling Redhat on a clean system went well. | There were: only a couple of boo boos cause I can't tpye. I still | stubbornly refuse to: like Redhat. | : | : Thanks for responding even if it wasn't what I wanted to hear/read. | : | : Bob | : | : -- | : Assured Computing | : When you need to be sure. | : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | : www.assuredcomp.com | : Voice - 541-868-0331 | : FAX - 541-463-1627 | : Eugene, Oregon | : | : | : ___ | : EuG-LUG mailing list | : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | : http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug | | -- | Eh, that's it, I guess. No 300 million dollar unveiling event for | this kernel, I'm afraid, but you're still supposed to think of this as | thehappening of the century (at least until the next kernel comes | along). | -- Linus, in the announcement for 1.3.27 | | ___ | EuG-LUG mailing list | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]RPM Woes
I've nearly derailed in the past, by such proliferation, but only when I tried to use both Ximian's tree and Apt-rpm's... I had to choose one or the other to get my main system updates, primarily because Ximian does indeed release their own package tree -- in my case, most of my Gnome binaries got replaced by .ximian-named packages. Apt-rpm and up2dat have played fine together, in my experience... since apt-rpm uses the same (well days older) trees; although they do have some other branches that are cooler, but those don't cause conflict with up2date since up2date doesn't know anything about a quake3 or multi-gnome-terminal binary RPM!! Regards, Ben PS - I know what you're saying about the lack of warm fuzzies, though. I was just discussing the eventual migration of our linux workstations to debian, at work... On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:53:55 -0800 Bob Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Ben Barrett wrote: | | I know I might [now] get slammed for not using yum [yet], and | maybe I'll be promoting it soon, but I'm still enjoying apt-get | (apt-rpm) on redhat... there's a nice apt GUI tool call synaptic, | which I'm sure some debian users know. It's real nice = ) | | I'm not getting warm fuzzies about the proliferation of package | managers that TDFKAR (The Distribution Formerly Known As RedHat) is | using. Package management and version synchronization is hard enough | without introducing three different package managers all with slightly | different semantics and slightly different sets of packages available. | | I predict a train wreck. | | -- | Bob Miller Kbob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 10:53:55AM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: I'm not getting warm fuzzies about the proliferation of package managers that TDFKAR (The Distribution Formerly Known As RedHat) is using. Package management and version synchronization is hard enough without introducing three different package managers all with slightly different semantics and slightly different sets of packages available. Aren't they all just frontends to rpm? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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Don't worry. I'm not defecting. This episode just confirmed for me that Slackware is still the best distribution for servers out there. This stupid Redhat glibc snafoo that sent me out there doesn't happen with Slack. I'v updated a few Slack 8.0 to 9.1 without this kind of issue. Yes. The system started whining about not finding glibc version just like Redhat did but it didn't die. I reboot them once or twice during the upgrade just to be sure the startup scripts still work. Some of them change. But Slack doesn't die. Redhat should make a good workstation if you have the extra hardware to drive it. You've seen that Slack is faster on the same hardware. Redhat 9.0's hardware detection is pretty good. It comes on 3 CDs and you will use all 3. Redhat has an Add/Remove Programs utility that makes it easy to adjust what you have installed from the CDs. I'm guessing there is a way to tell it where you want to install from but I haven't put much effort into finding where that is. So it doesn't do me much good here when the server is over there. Linux Rocks ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Traitor! hehe... just teasing... so... how is redhat 9? would you use it on your computer? Jamie On Saturday 15 November 2003 11:07 pm, Bob Crandell wrote: : Hi, : : Just thought I'd let you know, at least the ones who care (if there are : any), that reinstalling Redhat on a clean system went well. There were : only a couple of boo boos cause I can't tpye. I still stubbornly refuse to : like Redhat. : : Thanks for responding even if it wasn't what I wanted to hear/read. : : Bob : : -- : Assured Computing : When you need to be sure. : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.assuredcomp.com : Voice - 541-868-0331 : FAX - 541-463-1627 : Eugene, Oregon : : : ___ : EuG-LUG mailing list : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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Traitor! hehe... just teasing... so... how is redhat 9? would you use it on your computer? Jamie On Saturday 15 November 2003 11:07 pm, Bob Crandell wrote: : Hi, : : Just thought I'd let you know, at least the ones who care (if there are : any), that reinstalling Redhat on a clean system went well. There were : only a couple of boo boos cause I can't tpye. I still stubbornly refuse to : like Redhat. : : Thanks for responding even if it wasn't what I wanted to hear/read. : : Bob : : -- : Assured Computing : When you need to be sure. : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.assuredcomp.com : Voice - 541-868-0331 : FAX - 541-463-1627 : Eugene, Oregon : : : ___ : EuG-LUG mailing list : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Eh, that's it, I guess. No 300 million dollar unveiling event for this kernel, I'm afraid, but you're still supposed to think of this as the happening of the century (at least until the next kernel comes along). -- Linus, in the announcement for 1.3.27 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 06:15:56AM +, Bob Crandell wrote: I know. I'm bad. Just let this be a leason to you. Don't cut corners. The longer I think about the more I'm hoping Cory isn't right about sick hardware. I'll know in the morning. uh! I can't believe you did that. However it at least gives you a reason for your symptoms, other than hardware. Say hi to skipper for me. Cory -- Cory Petkovsek Adapting Information Adaptable IT ConsultingTechnology to your (541) 914-8417 business [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.AdaptableIT.com ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 08:59:47PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: Hi, When I type rpm -i wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm on a brand new Redhat 9.0 box I get rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions This is an upgrade from mandrake 7.2 that didn't go well. Wait, an upgrade from mandrake 7.2 doesn't sound like a brand new Redhat 9.0 box. Don't tell me you tried to cross distros. Remember what happened in ghost busters when they crossed the streams? Bad Tings (TM) Cory -- Cory Petkovsek Adapting Information Adaptable IT ConsultingTechnology to your (541) 914-8417 business [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.AdaptableIT.com ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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Hmm, maybe see if you're trying to upgrade an existing package, (by doing something like 'rpm -qa|grep ftpd') and if so, use the -U option for rpm instead of -i. AFAIK, -U can be used even for installs of new packages, so (if that's right) it could/should be used instead of -i anytime. I use -Uvh. Also: is this .rpm file made for RedHat 9? It might be somewhat distro-dependent, if not... or maybe there's more cruft left over from mandrake. (You managed to upgrade a mandrake to redhat, using a CD and clicking upgrade?? nice, except for the headaches!) Also, if worse comes to worse, say if you can determine that there is a conflict with the existing package or other ones, remove whatever related stuff you can afford to remove, temporarily (rpm -e, but be careful, as it does not save backups as it uninstalls), do your install or upgrade, and then fix up your package set. For instance, to upgrade from redhat 7.x to 9, I had to remove a TON of packages, since I was using a lot of .fr2 (freshrpms) and .ximian (er, Novell) packages which made for horrible unresolvable conflicts until I erased all those outsourced ones, did the upgrade, then recovered based merely on a saved list of packages... my dvd reader still doesn't work again though, wah! regards, Ben On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:59:47 + Bob Crandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Hi, | | When I type rpm -i wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm on a brand new Redhat 9.0 | box I get | rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions | | This is an upgrade from mandrake 7.2 that didn't go well. | | help. | | Thanks | Bob | ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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But -- they *HAD* to do it. It was the only way. It also made them that much cooler, er more badass. The main ill effect I recall was the destruction of the fine chandelier in the ballroom (their first major encounter) -- didn't they also need to cross the streams to toast the Stay-Puft man? cheers and jeers, Ben On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:54:15 -0800 Cory Petkovsek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Wait, an upgrade from mandrake 7.2 doesn't sound like a brand new | Redhat 9.0 box. Don't tell me you tried to cross distros. Remember | what happened in ghost busters when they crossed the streams? | Bad Tings (TM) | | Cory ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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Ok brand new a bad choice of words. Redhat is brand new. The box isn't. This is a file server in another city too far from here. I had to install Redhat 3 times to get it to work. The users were hanging over me, Is it done yet? And this was on a Saturday after I'd given them a weeks notice that it would be unavailable for a full day. STAY HOME. I got it running, made sure they were happy and came home. Now I'm trying to clean up the mess. Sigh. Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 08:59:47PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: Hi, When I type rpm -i wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm on a brand new Redhat 9.0 box I get rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions This is an upgrade from mandrake 7.2 that didn't go well. Wait, an upgrade from mandrake 7.2 doesn't sound like a brand new Redhat 9.0 box. Don't tell me you tried to cross distros. Remember what happened in ghost busters when they crossed the streams? Bad Tings (TM) Cory EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 12:59, Bob Crandell wrote: When I type rpm -i wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm on a brand new Redhat 9.0 box I get rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions Well, first of all I wouldn't use wu_ftpd. Redhat has (finally!) switched to vsftpd, which is likely to be a good deal more secure. I would try installing yum, available from http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/ -- and using it to install whatever it is you're looking for. It also does a nice job of auto-updating. Yum is the default updater in Fedora Linux, and is a good deal more robust than another, older product known as apt-rpm. This is something I cover in my classes. If you want more info, feel free to contact me. You might (or might not) also find my lecture slides useful. They're at http://www.peak.org/~mountainman/classnotes/3372/ClassNotes.html in the lecture notes for Session 2, towards the end. I also have an extra copy of the RedHat's RPM Guide (ISBN 0-7645-4965-0) that I'd be willing to trade for something nice, such as an AMD 550 processor. Ken ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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Ben Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hmm, maybe see if you're trying to upgrade an existing package, (by doing something like 'rpm -qa|grep ftpd') and if so, use the -U option for rpm instead of -i. AFAIK, -U can be used even for installs of new packages, so (if that's right) it could/should be used instead of -i anytime. I use -Uvh. rpm -Uvh wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions This .rpm is made for redhat 9.0. If I type rpm all by itself I get the same error. Also: is this .rpm file made for RedHat 9? It might be somewhat distro-dependent, if not... or maybe there's more cruft left over from mandrake. (You managed to upgrade a mandrake to redhat, using a CD and clicking upgrade?? nice, except for the headaches!) Also, if worse comes to worse, say if you can determine that there is a conflict with the existing package or other ones, remove whatever related stuff you can afford to remove, temporarily (rpm -e, but be careful, as it does not save backups as it uninstalls), do your install or upgrade, and then fix up your package set. For instance, to upgrade from redhat 7.x to 9, I had to remove a TON of packages, since I was using a lot of .fr2 (freshrpms) and .ximian (er, Novell) packages which made for horrible unresolvable conflicts until I erased all those outsourced ones, did the upgrade, then recovered based merely on a saved list of packages... my dvd reader still doesn't work again though, wah! I installed over the top of Mandrake. I didn't tell it to upgrade. How would I install rpm if the current rpm program is busted? regards, Ben On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:59:47 + Bob Crandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Hi, | | When I type rpm -i wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm on a brand new Redhat 9.0 | box I get | rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions | | This is an upgrade from mandrake 7.2 that didn't go well. | | help. | | Thanks | Bob | ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]RPM woes
Can you post an ls -l of /var/lib/rpm/ Garl -Original Message- From: Bob Crandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:18 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes Ben Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hmm, maybe see if you're trying to upgrade an existing package, (by doing something like 'rpm -qa|grep ftpd') and if so, use the -U option for rpm instead of -i. AFAIK, -U can be used even for installs of new packages, so (if that's right) it could/should be used instead of -i anytime. I use -Uvh. rpm -Uvh wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions This .rpm is made for redhat 9.0. If I type rpm all by itself I get the same error. Also: is this .rpm file made for RedHat 9? It might be somewhat distro-dependent, if not... or maybe there's more cruft left over from mandrake. (You managed to upgrade a mandrake to redhat, using a CD and clicking upgrade?? nice, except for the headaches!) Also, if worse comes to worse, say if you can determine that there is a conflict with the existing package or other ones, remove whatever related stuff you can afford to remove, temporarily (rpm -e, but be careful, as it does not save backups as it uninstalls), do your install or upgrade, and then fix up your package set. For instance, to upgrade from redhat 7.x to 9, I had to remove a TON of packages, since I was using a lot of .fr2 (freshrpms) and .ximian (er, Novell) packages which made for horrible unresolvable conflicts until I erased all those outsourced ones, did the upgrade, then recovered based merely on a saved list of packages... my dvd reader still doesn't work again though, wah! I installed over the top of Mandrake. I didn't tell it to upgrade. How would I install rpm if the current rpm program is busted? regards, Ben On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:59:47 + Bob Crandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Hi, | | When I type rpm -i wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm on a brand new Redhat 9.0 | box I get | rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions | | This is an upgrade from mandrake 7.2 that didn't go well. | | help. | | Thanks | Bob | ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:37:17PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: Ok brand new a bad choice of words. Redhat is brand new. The box isn't. What I was getting at was did you install redhat over the top of mandrake or did you wipe it? They way you said it sounded like the former. This is a file server in another city too far from here. I had to install Redhat 3 times to get it to work. If you have to install so many times and now you are getting this message after a clean install, I would immediately suspect a hardware problem. First thing: recompile the kernel. You don't need to use it, but the kernel compile will put the system through a pretty good test of processor and memory. Use a stable kernel and look out for any breaks in the compile process. They'll usually come as signal 11. Next try some tests of the disk system. Put on a large file of real or random data (600mb) and get an md5 sum of it. Then copy it around several places on the disk and get an md5 sum of the others. If you get disk errors or different md5 sums, obviously there is a disk/controller problem. Monitor the kernel log. I have a few problems on my workstation right now. VNC freezes my console occasionally. Since I use it daily it is a daily crash. Sshd works, but it is quite annoying. I'll be replacing the video card to test. Also my debian package management files keep getting corrupted. Occasionally I can no longer delete some files. I suspect the disk controller. Cory -- Cory Petkovsek Adapting Information Adaptable IT ConsultingTechnology to your (541) 914-8417 business [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.AdaptableIT.com ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 01:34:18AM +, Bob Crandell wrote: Not any more. ls now says: ls: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by /lib/tls/libc.so.6) ls: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: version `GLIBC_PRIVATE' not found (required by /lib/tls/libc.so.6) Have I ever mentioned I hate Redhat? I opened another session to see if I could login. No. If I loose this session I'm toast. This computer is in Newport. Sigh. Ouch, I'd say you are already toast. I think you have a hardware problem. This doesn't happen on a new install. Don't hate redhat, it'd happen on slack too. Get the kernel log. That information is quite valuable as it may tell you what is going wrong. You don't want to reinstall on a faulty system just to go through it all again. Cory -- Cory Petkovsek Adapting Information Adaptable IT ConsultingTechnology to your (541) 914-8417 business [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.AdaptableIT.com ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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I'm not convinced it's hardware. There weren't any symptons before I started and this last bit was because I was trying to fix rpm's dependancies. Thanks. Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:37:17PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: Ok brand new a bad choice of words. Redhat is brand new. The box isn't. What I was getting at was did you install redhat over the top of mandrake or did you wipe it? They way you said it sounded like the former. This is a file server in another city too far from here. I had to install Redhat 3 times to get it to work. If you have to install so many times and now you are getting this message after a clean install, I would immediately suspect a hardware problem. First thing: recompile the kernel. You don't need to use it, but the kernel compile will put the system through a pretty good test of processor and memory. Use a stable kernel and look out for any breaks in the compile process. They'll usually come as signal 11. Next try some tests of the disk system. Put on a large file of real or random data (600mb) and get an md5 sum of it. Then copy it around several places on the disk and get an md5 sum of the others. If you get disk errors or different md5 sums, obviously there is a disk/controller problem. Monitor the kernel log. I have a few problems on my workstation right now. VNC freezes my console occasionally. Since I use it daily it is a daily crash. Sshd works, but it is quite annoying. I'll be replacing the video card to test. Also my debian package management files keep getting corrupted. Occasionally I can no longer delete some files. I suspect the disk controller. Cory EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]RPM woes
What it sounded like to me was a out of date rpm database. Mandrake 7.2 used RPM v3.somthingorotherithinkitwas.0.5 (another indian name), while Redhat 9 used 4.2. If you did do an upgrade from Mandrake to Redhat (you are braver than I) then it is probably an issue of an out of date db. There are ways to rebuild it, but not if you can get a shell Good luck. Garl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Crandell Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:18 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes I'm not convinced it's hardware. There weren't any symptons before I started and this last bit was because I was trying to fix rpm's dependancies. Thanks. Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:37:17PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: Ok brand new a bad choice of words. Redhat is brand new. The box isn't. What I was getting at was did you install redhat over the top of mandrake or did you wipe it? They way you said it sounded like the former. This is a file server in another city too far from here. I had to install Redhat 3 times to get it to work. If you have to install so many times and now you are getting this message after a clean install, I would immediately suspect a hardware problem. First thing: recompile the kernel. You don't need to use it, but the kernel compile will put the system through a pretty good test of processor and memory. Use a stable kernel and look out for any breaks in the compile process. They'll usually come as signal 11. Next try some tests of the disk system. Put on a large file of real or random data (600mb) and get an md5 sum of it. Then copy it around several places on the disk and get an md5 sum of the others. If you get disk errors or different md5 sums, obviously there is a disk/controller problem. Monitor the kernel log. I have a few problems on my workstation right now. VNC freezes my console occasionally. Since I use it daily it is a daily crash. Sshd works, but it is quite annoying. I'll be replacing the video card to test. Also my debian package management files keep getting corrupted. Occasionally I can no longer delete some files. I suspect the disk controller. Cory EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 02:18:12AM +, Bob Crandell wrote: I'm not convinced it's hardware. There weren't any symptons before I started and this last bit was because I was trying to fix rpm's dependancies. Thanks. No symptoms? 3 installs to get it to work? Did those dependencies include libc? Yes: ok. No: you got problems. Cory -- Cory Petkovsek Adapting Information Adaptable IT ConsultingTechnology to your (541) 914-8417 business [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.AdaptableIT.com ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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Grigsby, Garl wrote: What it sounded like to me was a out of date rpm database. Mandrake 7.2 used RPM v3.somthingorotherithinkitwas.0.5 (another indian name), while Redhat 9 used 4.2. If you did do an upgrade from Mandrake to Redhat (you are braver than I) then it is probably an issue of an out of date db. There are ways to rebuild it, but not if you can get a shell Good luck. Did you really do that, Bob? If you started with Mandrake 7,2 and upgraded it to RedHat 9, then you might as well wipe the disk now. OTOH, if you had a disk with Mandrake 7.2, and you wiped Mandrake to install RH9, then something else is wrong. (It might still be a good idea to start over, though.) -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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I know. I'm bad. Just let this be a leason to you. Don't cut corners. The longer I think about the more I'm hoping Cory isn't right about sick hardware. I'll know in the morning. Thanks Bob Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Grigsby, Garl wrote: What it sounded like to me was a out of date rpm database. Mandrake 7.2 used RPM v3.somthingorotherithinkitwas.0.5 (another indian name), while Redhat 9 used 4.2. If you did do an upgrade from Mandrake to Redhat (you are braver than I) then it is probably an issue of an out of date db. There are ways to rebuild it, but not if you can get a shell Good luck. Did you really do that, Bob? If you started with Mandrake 7,2 and upgraded it to RedHat 9, then you might as well wipe the disk now. OTOH, if you had a disk with Mandrake 7.2, and you wiped Mandrake to install RH9, then something else is wrong. (It might still be a good idea to start over, though.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
