[EVDL] SamTrans seeks Electric-bus to begin a pilot program
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http://www.smdailyjournal.com/articles/lnews/2016-02-08/samtrans-inches-toward-going-electric-cap-and-trade-funds-sought-to-pilot-new-bus-program/1776425158101.html
SamTrans inches toward going electric: Cap and trade funds sought to pilot
new bus program
February 08, 2016 Samantha Weigel
San Mateo County transit officials are seeking state funds set aside for
greenhouse gas emission reduction efforts as they slowly build momentum
toward an electric bus pilot program.
The SamTrans Board of Directors met Wednesday and approved applying for
nearly $1 million in cap-and-trade funds — the first money that would be set
aside for the agency to embark on testing all-electric buses in San Mateo
County.
Yet as it will take time to accumulate enough funds to pilot a new program
in this evolving industry, SamTrans has also secured more than $25 million
in state and federal funds to purchase 50 new diesel buses.
Jeff Gee, a Redwood City councilman who sits on the SamTrans board, said it
was important to ensure the county gets its share of cap and trade funds by
applying for the grant — the amount of which is set by the state.
“Hopefully with next year’s allocation, we can start to get enough money to
at least do a pilot program,” Gee said. “The board is very interested in a
pilot program using electric buses, it’s just a matter of getting the
funding to do that. So this grant helps, but we can’t do it with the grant
by itself.”
Unsure of exactly how much is needed to begin a pilot program, electric
buses alone currently cost between $1 million and $1.3 million a piece,
according to Gee and SamTrans spokeswoman Tasha Bartholomew.
Gee noted there’s much to consider in crafting a viable program such as
comparing the cost of a battery with how long it can hold a charge, choosing
an appropriate route and purchasing charging infrastructure. Yet as EV
technology continues to advance, Gee said hopefully it will become more
affordable.
“It’s a constant evolution of technology and the focus is on the batteries,”
Gee said. “We’re hopeful maybe by year two or three (of the grant cycles),
the battery technology will have improved so much that the cost of the buses
will come down.”
Currently, SamTrans spends about $2 million a year on diesel fuel for its
buses that provide about 1 million rides per month. It already began
investing in alternatives by replacing some of its aging fleet with 25
diesel-electric hybrid buses starting in 2013.
“SamTrans is committed to finding sustainable transit solutions and, over
the years, the agency has worked aggressively to reduce emissions and look
at new technologies,” Bartholomew said in an email. “We are still keeping an
eye on the industry and if we are able to transition our entire bus fleet to
zero emissions someday, it’s going to take time and a lot of funding because
electric buses are very expensive to operate.”
As cities throughout the county finalize their climate action plans, it’s
become clear that fumes from vehicles is the number one contributor to the
area’s greenhouse gas emissions.
Even though it may take time, SamTrans and other transit agencies may soon
face new laws requiring them to make the investment. Now, Gee said they’re
hoping to get ahead of the legislative curve.
“There’s two big issues. One, climate change; and if we can go to a carbon
free bus or a low carbon (vehicle) moving people around, that’s better for
the environment. Two, there’s the discussion at the federal and state level
to make transit districts go to electric buses. So rather than be told, why
not go and invest in it,” Gee said. “Why wait? Especially here in California
and Silicon Valley with the innovation here … And, it’s the right thing to
do.”
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[EVDL] EVLN: Quebec.ca GM dealer sells 33 Bolt EV pre-orders
http://www.auto123.com/en/news/33-chevrolet-bolt-preordered-quebec-dealer/61842/
33 Chevy Bolt EV cars pre-ordered at one Quebec dealer
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The new 2017 Chevrolet Bolt EV
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As you know, the all-new Chevy Bolt EV made its debut earlier this year at
CES in Las Vegas [NV]. Despite the car hitting the market in 2017 only, one
Quebec dealer already has 33 pre-orders for the small electric hatchback.
Bourgeois Chevrolet, located in Rawdon, is no stranger to EV enthusiasts. It
received the very first 2016 Chevy Volt delivery anywhere in North America,
and customers from as far away as British Columbia make the trip to buy an
electrified automobile.
According to Inside EVs [
http://insideevs.com/chevrolet-bolt-ev-demand-shown-with-33-pre-orders-at-one-dealer/
], Bourgeois Chevrolet sold a record 287 electrified vehicles in 2015,
including 192 new and 95 used. For the year, Bourgeois sold 704 vehicles in
2015, which means that over 40% of sales were plug-in hybrids and EVs. This
is quite impressive considering Rawdon is approximately 80 kilometres away
from Montreal.
Additionally, Bourgeois claims to have 43 pre-sold copies of the 2017 Volt
[pih], which entered production last week. The sales team at this Chevy
dealer must be commended for converting so many car buyers to plug-in
hybrids and EVs.
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[EVDL] EVLN: Tesla-3 EV Preorders starting 2016/03/31
http://motherboard.vice.com/en_uk/read/elon-musk-will-take-tesla-model-3-preorders
Tesla Will Begin Taking Preorders on its Make-or-Break Vehicle
11 February 2016 JASON KOEBLER
Elon Musk said starting March 31, Tesla will begin to take preorders on what
many believe to be the electric car company’s make-or-break vehicle, the
Tesla 3.
The Tesla 3 is expected to launch early next year, and represents the
company’s first foray into the “affordable” realm—Musk said on Twitter that
the family sedan will cost roughly $35,000 and will come out sometime early
next year. Reservations will cost $1,000 and will start March 31 in Tesla
stores and April 1 online.
Even though gas prices have fallen dramatically, Tesla has seen high demand
for its Model S luxury sedan and its SUV crossover, the Model X. Musk
announced on an earnings call Wednesday that it expects to ship between
80,000 and 90,000 cars this year, which would beat investor forecasts.
All of this is good news for those betting on a bright future for electric
cars. Tesla’s early problems were managing to get its cars designed and
manufactured on the tight deadlines it had set for itself. The Model X, for
instance, finally began shipping late last year after a two year delay.
With the Model S and the Model X, Tesla has been working with relatively
small quantities of cars—the company only passed the 100,000 cars sold mark
back in December. And that’s why the Tesla 3 is being looked at as such an
important car: It’s Tesla’s first attempt at launching a mass market
vehicle.
Tesla is building a “Gigafactory” in Nevada, which will be the world’s
largest lithium-ion battery factory in the world and will be used to ramp up
production of the batteries used in the Tesla 3. Meanwhile, General Motors
announced the Chevy Bolt, an all-electric car that will cost $30,000 after a
federal electric vehicle credit of $7,500 and will have a range of more than
200 miles. It’s expected to come out before the Tesla Model 3 and will
compete directly with that car.
And so Tesla’s future success likely hinges on whether it can deliver the
Tesla 3 on time at the cost it’s promised. Tesla has missed lots of
deadlines before, but with its production of the Model S and Model X
seemingly under control and the Gigafactory on the way, perhaps the company
is ready to make the jump to the mass market.
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You Need $1000 To Reserve Tesla’s Most Affordable Electric Car
02/11/2016
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[EVDL] EVLN: Tesla-S 85kWh discontinued to simplify model lineup
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/02/09/tesla-motors-inc-drops-85-kwh-model-simplifies-lin.aspx
Tesla Motors, Inc. Drops 85 kWh Model, Simplifies Lineup
Feb 9, 2016 Daniel Sparks
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Model S Australia
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Tesla gives Model S buyers a clear choice between maximizing value, range,
or performance.
Electric-car maker Tesla Motors has narrowed down its available Model S
battery and motor configurations to just four options: single- and
dual-motor 70 kWh configurations, and non-performance and performance 90 kWh
dual-motor options. No longer included as a buying option is the company's
85 kWh battery option. The change in available configurations may serve to
both increase production efficiencies, boost the company's average
transaction price, and make purchase decisions for customers less confusing.
The business case
Here's the range and motor configurations that Tesla is utilizing for its
current lineup, as well as starting prices:
Specifications [(70-S is not dual-motor AWD)
70-S 70D-S 90D-S P90D-S
Battery
70kWh 70kWh 90kWh 90kWh
EPA-rated range
230mi 240mi 288mi 270mi
0-60 time
5.5s 5.2s 4.2s 3.2s (2.8s with Ludicrous speed upgrade)
Starting price
$70k $75k $88k $108k
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Previously, Tesla also offered an 85 kWh dual-motor option for a starting
price of $85,000. When configuring an 85 kWh dual-motor vehicle, Tesla gave
customers an option to purchase a range upgrade for $3,000, which
essentially upgraded the Model S to a 90 kWh model.
There are two main benefits for Tesla's business in this new, simpler
offering of available Model S battery and motor configurations. First,
average transaction prices will likely increase. By removing the middle
battery option, Tesla is essentially forcing its customers opting for a
vehicle with a bigger battery than its 70 kWh battery to pay an additional
$3,000 for the 90 kWh battery.
Second, producing fewer battery configurations could benefit the company's
manufacturing efficiencies, and potentially help profit margins improve
slightly.
Value, range, or performance
The real benefit, however, may be to the customers. By eliminating the 85
kWh option, Tesla has simplified its offerings. Now, buyers can choose
distinctly between maximizing value, range, or performance.
Value: For buyers looking for the best value, they can opt for one of the 70
kWh options, which both sacrifice on range compared to the larger battery
options, but come at discounts of $13,000 or more to the 90 kWh models.
Range: For some buyers where price isn't much of a factor, and who simply
want the most range, the 90D Model S is the obvious choice.
Performance: Also for buyers where price isn't much of a factor, the obvious
choice for those who want maximum performance is Tesla's P90D.
The company has both eliminated and introduced a range of different battery
sizes in the past. Previous battery sizes that the company no longer sells
include 40, 60, and the 85 kWh options. And Tesla introduced its 70 and 90
kWh options in April and July of last year, respectively.
It's likely that Tesla will continue to experiment with battery sizes. I've
even speculated that the company could reintroduce the 60 kWh option at some
point -- though in light of this recent simplification to Model S battery
options, it doesn't seem as likely anymore. With regards to the larger
batteries, Tesla CEO Elon Musk has noted that the company will likely
improve range by about 5% annually, on average.
The company's Model 3, which is scheduled to begin sales by the end of 2016,
will likely bring back smaller battery options, as Tesla has said the
vehicle will have a starting price of $35,000 -- half of the starting price
of the cheapest Model S ...
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Tesla Eliminates 85kWh Battery for Model S
February 9th, 2016
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Tesla Kills Mid-Range Model S 85, Pre-orders For $35,000 Model III Open Next
Month
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[EVDL] Free in-home charging to Tesla owners in Sweden
http://www.hybridcars.com/tesla-slated-to-power-free-in-home-charging-in-sweden/
Tesla Slated to Power Free In-home Charging in Sweden
February 9, 2016 Tim Healey
Tesla has pioneered a network of Superchargers, and now it’s working to
bring free in-home charging to Tesla owners in Sweden.
The California EV purveyor is also working with Swedish electric company
Skelleftea Kraft to use 100-perecent renewable energy in its Swedish
supercharging network.
This new partnership will allow Model S owners in Sweden to get free in-home
charging for up to 28,000 miles (45,000 km) over a three-year period.
“Skellefteå Kraft is a highly sustainable brand that really stands out
approaching the world’s contemporary challenges. It requires motivation,
creativity and perseverance. We like partners with a strong maverick
profile. With this agreement, our Swedish customers can enjoy even more
environmentally friendly electricity free of charge, whilst we at Tesla can
look forward to our first energy company partnership that can serve as a
role model for how to build sustainable partnerships in the future,” Tesla
Director for Nordic Countries Peter Bardenfleth-Hansen said in a statement.
Tesla delivered almost 1,000 of its Model S to buyers in Sweden in 2015, and
even though power rates in Sweden are already low, this news means a Model S
owner could recharge for almost no cost.
There are currently 14 superchargers, all powered by hydro-electric or wind
power, across Sweden.
Electrek notes that the sales increase for Tesla in Sweden comes close to a
275% increase, according to registration data. So Tesla is growing quickly
in the country, and this partnership may help the brand grow even more
quickly – after all, getting nearly free charging will help offset the high
sticker price of a Model S. Furthermore, this partnership could serve as a
model for other carmakers who sell electric vehicles in Sweden.
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Re: [EVDL] Looking for help learning to build EV motor
Alan Brinkman: :) Thank you very much for the leads--much appreciated! John Lussmyer: I've asked to join the EVTech e-mail list and will look to do the same for the SEVA list. Thank you, John, great suggestions. Chris Tromley: I'm new at this, so I don't yet know what I'm up against. But my super-secret, tried-and-true formula is to learn, experiment, fail and repeat. Add a generous dashes of patience and perseverance in equal measure and enjoy. This recipe has served me well. :) At this point, I expect to have learnings worth reporting on (positive or negative) late this year. If you ping me in the November/December timeframe, I'll be happy to share the lessons I've learned. Thanks again to everyone for your thoughts, advice and help. -Brad Alan Brinkman via EV <mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> February 11, 2016 at 16:25 Brad, I read your message too quickly and thought..just get a DC motor from E-bay, a strong controller, and get on with the conversion... Then I read your background. Then I carefully re-read your message. Scratch built EV, not a conversion. Start with building a switched reluctance electric motor and software control. The first time I heard of a Variable Reluctance motor was the EMB Lectra VR24 electric motorcycle that Scott Cronk developed, manufactured and sold. Some of the web pages have been saved for fans of the motorcycle and technology. http://www.electricmotorbike.org/index.php?page=lectra There are several Scott Cronk's in technology and the arts but here is a short bio on the VR motor guy: http://www.energymatters.net/scott-cronk.html I would contact him directly as from reading about him and the Lectra project he seemed like a down to earth type of guy with a passion for his work and some smarts. I do not know him personally. Good luck! Alan -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Jim Waite via EV Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:01 PM To: ev@lists.evdl.org; ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 40, Issue 21 Hi Brad, Specific SEVA members you should contact include Rich Rudman at Manzanita Micro, and Dave Cloud at Cloud Electric (although I understand>Dave may have recently moved, we both use to live in Woodinville). Best Regards, Jim Waite Sent from Jim's Intergalactic Comm Device Hey, everyone, I am located in the Seattle, WA area (Woodinville, actually), and am interested in learning to build and control my own switched reluctance electric motor. The long-term goal of the project will be to build an EV from scratch (not a conversion), but since I do not have a hardware background yet, I'm looking for someone willing to at least help me take all my "unknown unknowns" to "known unknowns" ;). From there, if need be, I can tackle transforming those known unknowns into knowns on my own. Initially, I'd like to build a tabletop motor so that I can practice software control specifically of starting the motor, controlling regen during deceleration and acoustics, and controlling speed. If you know anyone able and willing to help, I would appreciate an introduction. Snip Thank you! All the best, -Brad Gibson ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160212/fa12f8e9/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EV Boat (and another one)
I agree 100%. Just like EV's a solar boat is not for -everything-, it is for going slowly where the trip is tha value, not getting anywhere in particular. My solar boat only goes 3 MPH, yet when we take people out for a cruise, its like sailing (but don't need wind). You just enjoy everyone's company, the wine and cheze and the boat just goes where we tell it. Oh, and it has shade for 10 people... No, never plan on taking it out of the creek, nor in any but the best weather. but as a party boat, it is perfect! http://aprs.org/alternative-energy.html <== about 40% down the page. See the existing solar boat and the planned "solar deck" to be built this summer. (to provide 3 kW of grid tie, the 99% it is not in use)... Cant wait to eventually program it with a waypoint tracker and just let the party barge take us on the several pre-ordained cruises. Select from the 1,2,3,4,5, or 6 hour trip menu and sit back and enjoy the trip and the company. Bob -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of George McNeir via EV Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:07 PM To: jerry freedomev Cc: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV Boat Jerry, Sorry for the long period for response. It was difficult for me to come to fathom your reply, shown below this email. The MOG is a Totally Electric Powered Solar boat. I have endeavored to respond to your quips and numbered them 1 through 8. > That is a lot of boat drag to either go fast or far. 1. The boat has logged at least 520 miles on one of its many travels. If you read the MOG Log from our web site (originally cited) you would be better informed. > Just not a great choice for solar power. 2. This MOG configuration has been hailed in myriad publications, by certified naval architects, engineers and boat designers as one of the best applications of solar power. > Next since it can only go max 5mph on E 3. Over a measured mile it has exceeded its maximum hull speed, 7 knots. The hull design by Graham Byrnes, Naval Architect is very efficient. http://towndock.net/news/boat-designer-and-teacher-graham-byrnes-honored?p g=1Please notice the picture of the 22' Cat Ketch he designed for racing (& winning). > 2 speeds would be fine. 4. Evidently you have been misinformed about boat handling of a 40 foot boat negotiating in a marina fairway. 2 speeds is absurd. > Not likely to ever be more than a few mile range at low speed on electricity. 5. Think again please, there is no range limitation.. period. The boat has left Oriental, NC and logged 40 miles on the Alligator (tidal) passage. It left at 100% and arrived at 94% charge (Sun). > only 1.5hp of solar now. 6. At 2,585 watts of just solar, the hp is 3.46, with no counting the added storage from the 20 kW below deck. And that is only based on the present prototype. 1.5 hp provides about 3 mph. > eCycle electric motors, super cap/battery amalgamations, advanced alkaline fuel cells, thin/flexible PV modules' > These are needlessly expensive or just not viable at all. 7. "Primarily I asked for dialog". How in heaven's name do you twist that request into my implementing any of the named items beyond the eCycle motor and Navitas controller? Your conclusion that I want information on 'buying' eCycle motors, cap/batteries amalgamations, advanced cells, flexible PVs is 100% incorrect. I want to dialog with those people that have 'used' these items. You have imposed your version of reality where it is totally inapplicable. Lastly you tell me that these items are not viable for my application. You demonstrate no experience in naval architecture, do not own a Navitas controller, have never run an eCycle motor, do not possess a large array of flexible PV's and I challenge you to present an array of pictures and videos of a 40 foot boat you have built, none the less designed. Please stick to the author's request and that was to dialog with those that have such experience, rather than interjecting oneself into areas beyond actual use. > A real canal/narrowboat would be great. 8. Some due diligence would suggest, that outside of a true narrow canal (no waves, no flow and no tides), a flat bottom narrowboat is the worst of all designs for intracoastal waters (our MOG's stated area of navigation). Narrow boats, a type of canal boat, are NOT to be used on large bodies of water and tidal flows (fast water for a narrowboat is 2-3 mph). From a UK canal boat site.. Never go out in fast water. Locks on rivers have a guide showing the height (and therefore speed) of the water, don't go out onto the river if the guide is "in the red". A car (with which you have experience) may pull off the road, park and have remedy to any common road situation unaffected by tide, wind, waves and sinking. If you do not know something about the MOG Totally Electric Powered Solar boat, kindly consult the sites I had provided, ask questions and I will reply nicely. George On Apr
Re: [EVDL] EV Boat
as 2 speeds would be fine. No detail on the prop, which needs to be as large as possible turning slow rpm for most eff. What kind of outboards, inboards, KWHR and what it does now on them in speed, range. Not likely to ever be more than a few mile range at low speed on electricity. But driven slow like 4mph with more panels, only 1.5hp of solar now. Answer these and we can go from there. Doing EV boats one needs to start with a sailboat, mono, cat or tri hulls with much lower drag. A real canal/narrowboat would be great. 'eCycle electric motors, super cap/battery amalgamations, advanced alkaline fuel cells, thin/flexible PV modules'These are needlessly expensive or just not viable at all. Jerry Dycus From: George McNeir via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 9:06 PM Subject: [EVDL] EV Boat I have just joined and subscribe to EVDL with the idea that there are likeminded folks interested in large EV boat design and building. The MOG is not a commercial enterprise at this time but may be key to the creation of such. Everything designed and implemented over the past 25 years is described on the site given below and in the videos and blog that are also given below. Primarily I ask for any dialog that would help in furthering the progress made to date. In effect, those with knowledge of the Navitas NPS600 motor controller, eCycle electric motors, super cap/battery amalgamations, advanced alkaline fuel cells, thin/flexible PV modules, internal grid power distribution DC networks and anything else that may be contemplated for such a craft is welcome. In its present form, the totally solar electric (drive and appliance) powered boat is very functional. Considerations in decreasing onboard use of power as well as better use of power now created and stored is paramount in continuing further development. To date, all of the boat design & build has been funded through my own personal funds as a hobby. Below are the background data to which I referred. Thank you in advance for your deliberation and comments. George VIDEOS Moving https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI2nnN5892A=youtu.be Beached https://youtu.be/h92dWykE_Xo Tour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRGKbayI2yI SITE http://www.mogcanalboat.com/ BLOG http://www.mognavy.blogspot.com/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150426/2660f74b/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160212/3aae96b8/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
