Re: [EVDL] EPRI TVA VW electric bus

[Peri Hartman via EV]

Curious, did they raise the floor to fit the battery box? You could 
probably get a 40kWh lion pack in there, if it goes all the way through 
:)


Peri

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Re: [EVDL] EPRI TVA VW electric bus

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Re: [EVDL] Does anyone really think Tesla can last?

[paul dove via EV]

Did you realize that you can set the sensitivity of the model 3 Autopilot?

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> On May 23, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Peter Eckhoff via EV  wrote:
> 
> I'll bite.
> 
> I own both a Bolt and a Model 3.  I prefer to drive the Bolt over the
> Model 3 when it comes to "safety".  I prefer to drive the Model 3 when
> it comes to long distance driving.
> 
> I think the Bolt's sensor systems are superior to the Model 3's
> especially to the rear and blind spot areas.  My Bolt tends to warn me
> sooner of vehicles entering my blind spot area.  Backing out of a view
> blocked parking space, my Bolt is conservative in detection.  I love
> the rear view mirror camera.  The sensor systems basically inform me
> and let me decide what to do.
> 
> My Model 3's software (Autopiliot) tries to be a superior "me" but I
> think it fails in that it activates when it does not need to and I
> have experienced "phantom" braking.  Blind spot vehicles appear on the
> console just as they are off my rear fender.  All this makes me feel
> uneasy.  I limit my use of Autopilot and hope they eventually adopt
> the GM approach or have it as a setting such Autopilot Lite.  I think
> sales will take off then.
> 
> The Supercharger network and fast recharge are what are needed to spur
> adoption.  I've used the Supercharger network and love it!!  I don't
> have to take out any cards to recharge.  I open the recharge port and
> attach the Supercharger cable and it automatically starts to recharge.
> It tells me how long it's going to take and at what rate it is
> recharging.  The stations are plentiful and cover nearing all of the
> USA to the point of being within 100 to 150 miles of a station in
> almost all areas of the country.
> 
> The Bolt takes about 4 hours (based on screen from a Chevy dealer's
> Level 3 charger) to top off its 60 kwhr pack while the Model 3's is
> much faster.
> 
> I understand that Tesla is building a network across North Dakota and
> southern Canada.  This leaves just a few areas without a Supercharge
> station accessible within 150 mile such as SW Kansas, SE Oregon, and a
> few other places.  In those cases, Tesla has an adapter package where
> you can plug into a 240 volt outlet at an RV campground and recharge
> at 25 miles per hour.  If I plan to go cross country, I'll be doing it
> in a Model 3.
> 
> I will worry about the longevity of Tesla when:
> 1)  one of the established car companies comes out with their own
> Supercharger network and has similar recharge times.
> 2)  their "software over the air" update system gets hacked and there
> is no recourse.
> 3)  Supercharger sites, which are leased, are not renewed by the
> land/business owner. (Warsaw NC Supercharge site - hotel thought it
> would increase their business.  It didn't.  However, Tesla established
> another one not too far away.)
> 5)  Autopilot continues to be quirky while other companies develop
> systems/sensor packages that work with the driver to increase his or
> her safety (and that of others).
> 
> If the stock price of Tesla should fall, I suspect one of the auto
> companies will buy them out.  There's a lot of good tech there and the
> Model 3 is a wonderful and fun car to drive.  Slap on their company
> badge and take advantage of not having to develop their own version.
> 
> Bottom line: I don't see Tesla vanishing into oblivion.  Replacement
> parts may become from third party companies or refurbishers.
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[EVDL] G-61 Van spotted 101 N. @ Cesar Chavez

[Lawrence Rhodes via EV]

Spotted 5 minutes ago. This is a small Japanese high van. It was being towed on 
a flatbed. Color white and needing a wash.  The G-61 was painted on the rear 
passenger quarter panel. It might have been a University/ city service vehicle. 
Short and tall it would fit in a compact spot. Typically these vans had a 360 
cc engine or were electric.  Seems like a modern design. Late 80's or newer. 
Any idea of the make and model? Which of these are legal for street use? Maybe 
old enough for the 25 year rule. Thanks Lawrence Rhodes

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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: CNET loves the 2018 Leaf Electric life> earned seal of approval

[Peri Hartman via EV]

Unless I missed it, the article doesn't say anything about battery 
degradation or cold weather range. Anyone have any info on Nissan's 
current technology ?

Peri

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https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2018-nissan-leaf-long-term-final-update-may-2019/
2018 Nissan Leaf long-term wrap-up: A year of EV life zaps by
May 22, 2019  Chris Paukert

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The Nissan Leaf earned our twelve-month seal of approval.
Chris Paukert/Roadshow

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2018 Nissan Leaf: Long-term EV wrap-up  59 Photos

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2018 Nissan Leaf long-term car in winter
The Nissan Leaf's electric powertrain produces 147 horsepower and 236
pound-feet of torque. Chris Paukert/Roadshow
]

12 months and thousands of miles later, we've got a good feel for how it is
to live the electric life.

Ignore, for a moment, the environmental case for buying an electric car.  If
there's anything our year with this 2018 Nissan Leaf taught us, it's that
there are plenty of other reasons to take the EV plunge. Over the course of
thousands of miles and in all four seasons, we found many reasons to love
the life electric.

Naturally, we also uncovered a few caveats, too.
[video  flash
Watch this: Nissan Leaf long-term wrap-up: One year of electric feels  4:38
]

Our loaded-up $38,115 top-shelf SL model arrived in April of 2018,
resplendent in Deep Blue Pearl paint. While not as audacious and
controversial in appearance as its predecessor, we instantly found the
second-generation Leaf's newly familial look to be far more pleasant and
balanced, a positive impression that lasted all year.

Throughout our twelve months, thousands of kilowatt hours consumed and
nearly 8,000 miles logged in New York and Michigan, we did just about
everything you'd do with your daily driver. We commuted in the Leaf, we went
on Home Depot runs, we schlepped through deep snow, and we even made this
hatchback the official shuttle of our editor-in-chief's informal cider donut
comparison test last fall.

Throughout it all, our Nissan Leaf worked flawlessly. Without many of the
fluids to change of conventional gas cars, we didn't end up even needing to
visit the dealer. (There's a basic 7,500-mile complimentary multi-point
inspection, but we turned in our tester right as that was coming due). In
the spirit of full disclosure, a tire rotation would've normally been in
order, but we swapped out the stock 17-inch Michelin Energy Saver
all-seasons for a set of Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3 winter tires when the
weather turned foul, so our little front driver was covered there, too.

Maintenance intervals have certainly gotten fewer and farther between for
traditional internal-combustion automobiles, but battery electric vehicle
ownership promises even more infrequent  visits to the dealer, and our Leaf
delivered in spades. If you hate going to dealers, well, an EV like the Leaf
might just be your golden ticket.

Any reliability-related frustrations with our Leaf came not from our test
car, but from the charging network we plugged into. While our EIC and Yours
Truly both have Level 2 charging docks in our home garages, we did
experience an infrastructural headache when a pay-for-juice Greenlots quick
charger failed to work during a snowy drive home when we initially delivery
of the car last April. "Clearly Nissan bears no fault there, but I present
this story as an example of the 

Re: [EVDL] EPRI TVA VW electric bus

[Dale Curren via EV]

Can you see if it has brushes in the motor?

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 8:08 AM Dale Curren  wrote:

> I know nothing about it, but would love to see a bunch of pictures of it
> as it progresses along.
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 7:21 AM zvwbus via EV  wrote:
>
>> This is my first post to this list/forum, so please bear with me.  I am a
>> collector of old VWs, and I had long known that VW had developed EVs in
>> the
>> '70s, and I always wanted one.  A friend of mine came up with one a few
>> years back, and I bought it from him.  It is a 1979 VW bus which was
>> originally owned by the Tennessee Valley Authority.  They bought and
>> tested
>> ten of these vehicles in 1979.  (NASA tested one in '77).  I know many
>> things about VW buses, and I am fairly mechanically inclined, but I know
>> next to nothing about this drive system.  The bus has been off the road
>> for
>> 20+ years and I am trying to get it going with as much of the original
>> drivetrain as possible.  I hope that someone has some knowledge of this
>> system and how it works.
>>
>> The sparse technical literature that I have shows that the Motor is:
>> Siemens
>> 1 GV 1161-Z and the controller is a Siemens 6 RB 1000-1BA
>>
>> The literature says that it has regenerative braking.
>>
>> The transmission is set in 2nd gear permanently.  I turned the axles, and
>> the motor turns.
>>
>> It is designed to run on 144 volts, but it is supposed to work from
>> 110v-170v.  I strung 11 12v auto batteries together and got 137v  The
>> volts
>> make it to the connection at the controller, and I turned the ignition
>> switch on and press the accelerator and nothing happens.  This is where my
>> expertise runs out.
>>
>> I can run a multi-meter, and I know how electricity works in general, as I
>> can and have made every part of the electrical system work on any number
>> of
>> old 6v Volkswagens.
>>
>> The questions I have are:
>>
>> 1) Does anyone here have working knowledge of an ancient Siemens
>> controller?
>>
>> 2) How does the regenerative braking work?
>>
>> 3) the literature says that it is a shunt wound DC motor.  Can I test the
>> motor by supplying voltage directly to it?  If so, how much voltage
>> should I
>> use to test it?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [EVDL] EPRI TVA VW electric bus

[Dale Curren via EV]

I know nothing about it, but would love to see a bunch of pictures of it as
it progresses along.

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 7:21 AM zvwbus via EV  wrote:

> This is my first post to this list/forum, so please bear with me.  I am a
> collector of old VWs, and I had long known that VW had developed EVs in the
> '70s, and I always wanted one.  A friend of mine came up with one a few
> years back, and I bought it from him.  It is a 1979 VW bus which was
> originally owned by the Tennessee Valley Authority.  They bought and tested
> ten of these vehicles in 1979.  (NASA tested one in '77).  I know many
> things about VW buses, and I am fairly mechanically inclined, but I know
> next to nothing about this drive system.  The bus has been off the road for
> 20+ years and I am trying to get it going with as much of the original
> drivetrain as possible.  I hope that someone has some knowledge of this
> system and how it works.
>
> The sparse technical literature that I have shows that the Motor is:
> Siemens
> 1 GV 1161-Z and the controller is a Siemens 6 RB 1000-1BA
>
> The literature says that it has regenerative braking.
>
> The transmission is set in 2nd gear permanently.  I turned the axles, and
> the motor turns.
>
> It is designed to run on 144 volts, but it is supposed to work from
> 110v-170v.  I strung 11 12v auto batteries together and got 137v  The volts
> make it to the connection at the controller, and I turned the ignition
> switch on and press the accelerator and nothing happens.  This is where my
> expertise runs out.
>
> I can run a multi-meter, and I know how electricity works in general, as I
> can and have made every part of the electrical system work on any number of
> old 6v Volkswagens.
>
> The questions I have are:
>
> 1) Does anyone here have working knowledge of an ancient Siemens
> controller?
>
> 2) How does the regenerative braking work?
>
> 3) the literature says that it is a shunt wound DC motor.  Can I test the
> motor by supplying voltage directly to it?  If so, how much voltage should
> I
> use to test it?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [EVDL] (still has goals to achieve): can Tesla last?

[Dan Hofer via EV]

2, 2019
Tesla Model 3 vs. BMW 330i vs. Genesis ... With the Model 3, Tesla is
hell-bent on proving that the electric car is ready to go mainstream. Of
course, Tesla has ...
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Tesla Investors and Analysts Jump Ship: It's a "Quagmire" Says One
Fortune-May 22, 2019
Although Tesla may be innovating major aspects of electric vehicles and are
trying to match production lines to meet the challenge—because typical ...
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Techgarage (blog)-May 22, 2019
These price cuts follow Tesla's recent update of premium electric cars. In
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[EVDL] EPRI TVA VW electric bus

[zvwbus via EV]

This is my first post to this list/forum, so please bear with me.  I am a
collector of old VWs, and I had long known that VW had developed EVs in the
'70s, and I always wanted one.  A friend of mine came up with one a few
years back, and I bought it from him.  It is a 1979 VW bus which was
originally owned by the Tennessee Valley Authority.  They bought and tested
ten of these vehicles in 1979.  (NASA tested one in '77).  I know many
things about VW buses, and I am fairly mechanically inclined, but I know
next to nothing about this drive system.  The bus has been off the road for
20+ years and I am trying to get it going with as much of the original
drivetrain as possible.  I hope that someone has some knowledge of this
system and how it works.

The sparse technical literature that I have shows that the Motor is: Siemens
1 GV 1161-Z and the controller is a Siemens 6 RB 1000-1BA

The literature says that it has regenerative braking.

The transmission is set in 2nd gear permanently.  I turned the axles, and
the motor turns.

It is designed to run on 144 volts, but it is supposed to work from
110v-170v.  I strung 11 12v auto batteries together and got 137v  The volts
make it to the connection at the controller, and I turned the ignition
switch on and press the accelerator and nothing happens.  This is where my
expertise runs out.

I can run a multi-meter, and I know how electricity works in general, as I
can and have made every part of the electrical system work on any number of
old 6v Volkswagens.

The questions I have are:

1) Does anyone here have working knowledge of an ancient Siemens controller? 

2) How does the regenerative braking work?

3) the literature says that it is a shunt wound DC motor.  Can I test the
motor by supplying voltage directly to it?  If so, how much voltage should I
use to test it?

Thanks in advance.








  

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Re: [EVDL] Irish company strikes 40m deal to reproduce an electric E-Type Jaguar

[Paul Compton via EV]

Have you looked at the cost of a 100% rebuilt and upgraded E type in
the first place? The electric version isn't much more expensive.
They're going to effectively be NEW cars, completely hand built.

The E type was never a sports car. Aimed largely at the US market, it
was a soft, soggy Grand Tourer. That's why these re-worked cars exist
in the first place, to turn them into performance sports cars.

On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 20:06, Lawrence Rhodes via EV  wrote:
>
> I don't get it.  I thought the e-type conversions were over priced at half a 
> million. 
> https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/motors/irish-electrifi-signs-40m-deal-to-build-electric-jaguar-e-types-1.3898795
>   Now the price is $850,000.00. Did I get a decimal point wrong?  I have seen 
> examples of this car from 20k to 100k and some pretty impressive ones at 50 
> to 70k.  A quick trip to EV West if you don't want to do it yourself and for 
> well under $100,000.00 you have a classic EV.  Maybe there is some exclusive 
> club that you gain membership to if you have the nearly million dollar car.  
> Lawrence Rhodes
> https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/jaguar/e-type/2193682.html
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