Re: [EVDL] Charging adapter for J1772?
>> Anybody have experience with this or any other J1772 adapter? Like several of the other respondents, I built my own after the local utility put in two 30 ampere EVSE pedestals at the front of their office in town. The components to signal the EVSE to begin charging aren't at all expensive, one resistor, and one diode. The expensive part was the J1772 connector of the input end of the adapter ($69 on fleabay). The whole thing is contained in a weatherproof cast aluminum junction box, and connects via a short pigtail to the twist lock that engages the AC input to my car. Of course, the PFC20 charger will take any voltage you throw at it, AC or DC, so the only thing to keep in mind is how many amps to set the charge rate at. Our utility's pedestals are fully capable of supporting the 20 amps the charger can pull. Elsewhere, I'd have to be careful that no one wasted their money installing a 16 amp EVSE. The customer service representatives at the front counter are always disappointed if I come in to pay my bill and I'm not driving the EV. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Charging adapter for J1772?
I made an adapter to use J1772 level 2 when I had an older conversion car. The charger used an input of 120v. I found that most ‘commercial’ locations have 220 volts at the plug, so I had to get a transformer that would put out 120v when supplied with 220v. When plugged in to the rare Level 2 charging station with 240v (such as at a house) the transformer output would be about 160v, much higher than the charger could use. I say this because if your charger expects 240v, and it is transformer-based, you may not be getting full charging voltage from the typical Level2 charging station. If it is OK with a wider range of voltage -around- 240v, than an adapter will probably work out. Tom Keenan > On Aug 30, 2019, at 3:20 PM, Paul Compton via EV wrote: > > In theory, you can have a pair of EVSE outlets sharing the same feed, > so each one can supply 3Kw, but if both are in use then that capacity > has to be shared. > >> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 23:01, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: >> >> On Fri Aug 30 14:06:19 PDT 2019 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >>> Well, a little quick Googling found a J1772 Adapter Box >>> (http://www.tucsonev.com/) -- at >>> $150 I'm sorely tempted! Anybody have experience with this or any other >>> J1772 adapter? >> >> The one issue I have with those is that it doesn't prevent your charger from >> trying to draw MORE current than the EVSE allows. >> As long as you have a 3.3KW (or less) charger, it will likely be fine - >> Unless plugged into a 120V 15A outlet where the EVSE is telling your charger >> to limit itself to 12A (about 1500W). In which case you need a REALLY wimpy >> charger. >> >> >> -- >> >> Tigers prowl and Dragons soar in my dreams... >> ___ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html >> INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> > > > -- > Paul Compton > www.morini-mania.co.uk > www.paulcompton.co.uk (YouTube channel) > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] *8/30-31 only: BuyNow $1.7k priced, Elf enclosed_e-trike SF-CA> needs battery
Lawrence posted
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-elf-electric-tricycle-for/6966951012.html
Above cl ad now reads
... PRICE REDUCTION: valid Friday August 30th, and 31st only.
After that I have to put back in storage and the price will return to $2999
$1,700+$1000 (new battery)= total price is $2,700
So, save them the co$t & effort of putting it in storage,
price reduction was to move metal (make a sale, a win-win)
? Lawrence, this wouldn't be your Elf for sale would it ?
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Re: [EVDL] Charging adapter for J1772?
In theory, you can have a pair of EVSE outlets sharing the same feed, so each one can supply 3Kw, but if both are in use then that capacity has to be shared. On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 23:01, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > > On Fri Aug 30 14:06:19 PDT 2019 ev@lists.evdl.org said: > >Well, a little quick Googling found a J1772 Adapter Box > >(http://www.tucsonev.com/) -- at > >$150 I'm sorely tempted! Anybody have experience with this or any other > >J1772 adapter? > > The one issue I have with those is that it doesn't prevent your charger from > trying to draw MORE current than the EVSE allows. > As long as you have a 3.3KW (or less) charger, it will likely be fine - > Unless plugged into a 120V 15A outlet where the EVSE is telling your charger > to limit itself to 12A (about 1500W). In which case you need a REALLY wimpy > charger. > > > -- > > Tigers prowl and Dragons soar in my dreams... > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -- Paul Compton www.morini-mania.co.uk www.paulcompton.co.uk (YouTube channel) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Charging adapter for J1772?
On Fri Aug 30 14:06:19 PDT 2019 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >Well, a little quick Googling found a J1772 Adapter Box >(http://www.tucsonev.com/) -- at >$150 I'm sorely tempted! Anybody have experience with this or any other J1772 >adapter? The one issue I have with those is that it doesn't prevent your charger from trying to draw MORE current than the EVSE allows. As long as you have a 3.3KW (or less) charger, it will likely be fine - Unless plugged into a 120V 15A outlet where the EVSE is telling your charger to limit itself to 12A (about 1500W). In which case you need a REALLY wimpy charger. -- Tigers prowl and Dragons soar in my dreams... ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Charging adapter for J1772?
I'm currently working on a Tuktuk conversion. It's basically a repeat of one built by Saietta, but with my standards of packaging, neatness and extra safety. We're using an AVC2 module; http://modularevpower.com/Active_Vehicle_Side_Control_development.htm They're mostly only sold via ebay and we had to ask for a refund after we got no response from the seller. They are most likely an individual and may for instance have had a family emergency, but it was somewhat inconvenient. Happily, I spotted that EV West stock them and we were able to get one that way. Ultimately, I'm going to have to design my own as shipping and import duties make it quite expensive. On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 22:06, Tom Hudson via EV wrote: > > While driving home today I passed a Whole Foods store and noticed a couple of > EV chargers > outside, and it got me thinking... What would it take to get my E-10 pickup > set up to > charge using a J1772 port? > > Well, a little quick Googling found a J1772 Adapter Box > (http://www.tucsonev.com/) -- at > $150 I'm sorely tempted! Anybody have experience with this or any other > J1772 adapter? > > My charger is a 240VAC Brusa NLG5 -- seems like this would let me cavort > around a little > more freely in the truck... > > Thoughts? Suggestions? > > -Tom > > -- > Thomas Hudson > http://portev.org -- Electric Vehicles, Solar Power & More > http://klanky.com -- Animation Projects > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -- Paul Compton www.morini-mania.co.uk www.paulcompton.co.uk (YouTube channel) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Charging adapter for J1772?
Tom, I've been using that J1772 adapter box on my 1979 Jet ElectraVan for years. It works as expected. I went that route because the parts cost nearly equalled the unit price for the adapter and it was already debugged and working. I elected to build my own EVSE for my I-MiEV because there was some cost savings and I had some constraints that weren't effectively addressed by commercial units. However, that's a different story. Mike Original Message Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 16:06:19 -0500 From: Tom Hudson via EV To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: Tom Hudson Subject: [EVDL] Charging adapter for J1772? While driving home today I passed a Whole Foods store and noticed a couple of EV chargers outside, and it got me thinking... What would it take to get my E-10 pickup set up to charge using a J1772 port? Well, a little quick Googling found a J1772 Adapter Box (http://www.tucsonev.com/) -- at $150 I'm sorely tempted! Anybody have experience with this or any other J1772 adapter? My charger is a 240VAC Brusa NLG5 -- seems like this would let me cavort around a little more freely in the truck... Thoughts? Suggestions? -Tom -- Thomas Hudson http://portev.org -- Electric Vehicles, Solar Power & More http://klanky.com -- Animation Projects ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Charging adapter for J1772?
Not an adapter, but my J1772 input solution: When I upgraded to Lithium batteries I also upgraded my charger to a pair of TSM2500's from Thunderstruck motors and their EVCC (EV Charge Controller). I bought a kit with the chargers & controller (but re-used the Nissan Leaf J1772 inlet from the salvage Nissan Leaf I purchased to get the lithium batteries). The EVCC basically connects between a J1772 inlet and (canbus enabled) chargers and handles the pilot signal decoding, drive away protection, BMS integration, etc... Jay On 8/30/19 5:06 PM, Tom Hudson via EV wrote: While driving home today I passed a Whole Foods store and noticed a couple of EV chargers outside, and it got me thinking... What would it take to get my E-10 pickup set up to charge using a J1772 port? Well, a little quick Googling found a J1772 Adapter Box (http://www.tucsonev.com/) -- at $150 I'm sorely tempted! Anybody have experience with this or any other J1772 adapter? My charger is a 240VAC Brusa NLG5 -- seems like this would let me cavort around a little more freely in the truck... Thoughts? Suggestions? -Tom ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Charging adapter for J1772?
I am currently making my own with this EV Simulator:https://www.tindie.com/products/nsayer/evse-tester/ It will just "fake" the EVSE into starting the current flow, and I can put whatever outlet i want on it. The issue I can see is I won't know if its 110v or 220v, but there are ways around this. Kevin On Friday, August 30, 2019, 02:06:34 PM PDT, Tom Hudson via EV wrote: While driving home today I passed a Whole Foods store and noticed a couple of EV chargers outside, and it got me thinking... What would it take to get my E-10 pickup set up to charge using a J1772 port? Well, a little quick Googling found a J1772 Adapter Box (http://www.tucsonev.com/) -- at $150 I'm sorely tempted! Anybody have experience with this or any other J1772 adapter? My charger is a 240VAC Brusa NLG5 -- seems like this would let me cavort around a little more freely in the truck... Thoughts? Suggestions? -Tom -- Thomas Hudson http://portev.org -- Electric Vehicles, Solar Power & More http://klanky.com -- Animation Projects ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190830/a21050d1/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Charging adapter for J1772?
While driving home today I passed a Whole Foods store and noticed a couple of EV chargers outside, and it got me thinking... What would it take to get my E-10 pickup set up to charge using a J1772 port? Well, a little quick Googling found a J1772 Adapter Box (http://www.tucsonev.com/) -- at $150 I'm sorely tempted! Anybody have experience with this or any other J1772 adapter? My charger is a 240VAC Brusa NLG5 -- seems like this would let me cavort around a little more freely in the truck... Thoughts? Suggestions? -Tom -- Thomas Hudson http://portev.org -- Electric Vehicles, Solar Power & More http://klanky.com -- Animation Projects ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Elf electric tricycle in San Francisco
Price reduced to $1,700. Lawrence Rhodes -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190830/454174cf/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Subject: Differential issue
On 30 Aug 2019 at 9:39, Tom Hudson via EV wrote: > looking at how all the front-end parts fit together I realized just > how tailor-made the Solectria gearbox is for the Metro, and I doubt I > could fit it into the Insight. That gearbox is a thing of beauty. Isn't it? That was part of the "secret sauce" that distinguished the Force from most other conversions. Instead of fabricating an adapter and bolting the motor to the Metro's stock transmission, they developed their own light, high efficiency transaxle. It's one of lots of little details that all added up to unusually high efficiency. Rather high cost, too, but that's another matter. If you really want to fit it into the Insight, I'm sure there's a way. It might involve extensive machine shop work, but if Lee Hart could adapt the Sunrise from a front drive car to a rear drive with Thunderbird parts, surely you can figure out how to bolt an AT2000 transaxle into an Insight. If you have any interest in a different project, my rust-free 1991 Force is for sale. It would be a project, though. The roof, windshield, and hood were damaged when a tree fell on my garage. http://drmm.net/ev/force/images/01-front-left-c.jpg http://drmm.net/ev/force/images/12-roof-front-right.jpg http://drmm.net/ev/force/images/13-windshield-b.jpg One of the nice things about the older Force hatchbacks was that they weighed over 400lb less than the later sedans, 2050lb vs 2460lb (both with lead batteries). That '91 would be a silky ride with your drivetrain in it. Add 180 volts worth of lithium and it would lose still more weight and gain power. It'd be a 1700lb car with 43kW, a better power to weight ratio than a Triumph Spitfire. That little car would scoot nicely. If things were different in my life right now, I'd snap up your transaxle and motor in a heartbeat. So it goes. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Subject: Differential issue
Just picked up the truck from the shop -- smooth as silk!!! It really is awesome having it back and as quiet as it originally was. This was one of those odd, double-failure situations When we initially started getting the vibrations and hearing the awful sound coming through the truck body, I figured something was loose so I tipped the truck bed up and checked, and one of the two motors had a couple of loose mounting bolts. So I tightened those up and figured we were done -- but the vibration sound continued; only when under acceleration or deceleration. After replacing the batteries I took it in to get it looked at and they discovered the bad pinion gear bearing. I must have a thing for pinion gear bearings -- Back in 1975 when I started driving my first car was a 1960 VW beetle. Shortly after I started driving it it developed a grinding noise and it turned out to be a bad pinion gear bearing! I'm almost finished pulling all the EV parts out of the Force -- just the motor/gearbox assembly is left. Part of me would like to transplant them into our 2000 Honda Insight to convert it into an EV if we can't sell it. But after doing all the work to get the half-shafts out (good lord, 22 years of corrosion made getting the bolts out of the struts nearly impossible!) and looking at how all the front-end parts fit together I realized just how tailor-made the Solectria gearbox is for the Metro, and I doubt I could fit it into the Insight. That gearbox is a thing of beauty. The motors I'm keeping because they could go into the truck; I guess I'll sell the gearboxes to get them to a good home. -Tom On 8/28/2019 8:39 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: But its EV components are living on I'll be curious to see what you do with them. :-) David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- Thomas Hudson http://portev.org -- Electric Vehicles, Solar Power & More http://klanky.com -- Animation Projects ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
