[EVDL] Browser controls: public EVSE that can use a credit card
I hope others with browser knowledge of how to reduce the site-host's efforts to sell ads, shares with us. I wade through pages ad pages, and yes many, any times the site was written to throw pop-up ads, run videos you didn't ask to be launched (eating-up your data limit). I have tried many browsers on different operating systems. My preference is to do my searches on a linux operating system (peppermint, or mint prefered). But until I get that resetup in the house I hope to buy, since the move from Silicon-Valley-CA, I've been making-do with a small laptop on Win10. With all the bummping-around searhing for EV-news-items, I've found most sites have their pages to run on chrome-browser, but usually, I can get-away with using a firefox-browser. I like firefox as it has features I like, like some of the ad, pop-up, or other anti-bombard controls. There are several settings in each browser that you can set to reduce how much garbage is thrown at you. Currently, where I am residing, offers connectivity, so I tollerate a little more loose control (which means sometimes I have to westle with the web page to get at the text, images, & videos. I wouldn't want to be denied page access because of a browser seting. To learn more abut controllingyour browser, explore https://www.google.com/search?q=browser+page+ads Having said all that (and hope others will contribute), when I do browser or even operating system updates, the settings you had gotten the best theycan be, are changed on you with out telling you. So, I've found its best to write down what settings are best and after an update, recheck those settingsto be what you want. I hope this helps you have less grief viewing web sites. For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/archive/ {brucedp.neocities.org} -- Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EV charging to go credit card. My picture in the article.
On 8 Oct 2019 at 17:22, Willie via EV wrote: > SFChronicle attempts to force ad viewing. Screw 'em. Strange, I saw no ads at all here. I did get a pop-over exhorting me to subscribe to the paper after looking at the article, but at that point I was done, so I just closed the browser window. I agree strongly with the idea behind the article. IMO it's nuts that you can fill up an ICE in any filling station with cash or a credit card, but to charge an EV in public, you have to carry a stack of proprietary RFID cards, as seen in Lawrence's hand. EVs won't have real parity with ICEVs until they can be fueled with the same kinds of payment. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Lawrence' picture: Public EVSE should use credit cards
Yes, junk ads are what I have to deal with everyday to find my EVLN items, and why I strip out just the essentials for posting, so the evdl archive has it. Lawrence' picture, direct link https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/06/07/42/18380963/7/gallery_xlarge.jpg (caption) Lawrence Rhodes of San Francisco shows the charging cards he uses to pay at public electric car charging stations.Photo: Lea Suzuki / The Chronicle For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/ {brucedp.neocities.org} -- Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EV charging to go credit card. My picture in the article.
>> SFChronicle attempts to force ad viewing. Screw 'em. Likewise. I did dig through the page code and copy-paste the fifth photo address, so now I have a face to go with the name. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EV charging to go credit card. My picture in the article.
On 10/8/19 1:33 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: I am in the 5th picture. Article is about EV charging adopting credit cards. Lawrence Rhodes https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/Most-electric-car-chargers-don-t-take-credit-14496919.php SFChronicle attempts to force ad viewing. Screw 'em. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EV charging to go credit card. My picture in the article.
I am in the 5th picture. Article is about EV charging adopting credit cards. Lawrence Rhodes https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/Most-electric-car-chargers-don-t-take-credit-14496919.php ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Bosch pyroswitches/pyrofuses> 1 bash& EV's wiring is shot
On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 15:57, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > Am I missing something? Isn't this what main contactors are for? A short circuit of the main battery bus during an impact could weld contactors, particularly as there may be contact bounce due to the impact. A fuse might not blow, because the sustained fault current isn't high enough. A one time operable disconnect sounds like a good idea. Cutting cables doesn't, but then that is probably just bad reporting of the actual process. -- Paul Compton www.morini-mania.co.uk www.paulcompton.co.uk (YouTube channel) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Bosch pyroswitches/pyrofuses> 1 bash& EV's wiring is shot
Am I missing something? Isn't this what main contactors are for? Besides, I don't think its a new idea. This document https://www-esv.nhtsa.dot.gov/proceedings/24/files/24ESV-000163.PDF seems to date from a couple of years ago (I could be wrong about that, however). David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EV-signage required> 'it doesn’t say I can’t park there'
%Our friendly neighbors.ca need to learn from our.us mistakes. Push for laws to fine & tow-away ice'rs, then put up red-letter signage stating ice will be fined It is the only-method that really works. Being a polite.ca = ice'd spot % https://www.bclocalnews.com/news/drivers-are-ice-ing-electric-car-charging-spots-in-greater-victoria/ Drivers are ‘ICE-ing’ electric car charging spots in Greater Victoria Oct. 5, 2019 Travis Paterson [image http://44xv8hmm4vs44orqs2ehffgq-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PLUGshare.jpg The Plugshare.com app shows where the nearest electric vehicle charging station is. (Plugshare screenshot) share https://twitter.com/saanich/status/1179856183366225938 District of Saanich @saanich New rebates for EV charging stations make it easier to go electric! It is now easier for British Columbians to buy and install electric vehicle charging stations at home and at work with more than $4 million in new CleanBC rebates. #Saanichhttps://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2019EMPR0108-001853 … https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF-w8hkXUAE03JW?format=jpg 3:30 PM - Oct 3, 2019 ] Region needs more electric charging stations, driver says [image] Glen Garry is on the Victoria Electric Vehicle Club board of directors, with a mission of moving drivers out of GHG burning automobiles and into electric vehicles. (Travis Paterson/News Staff) There’s a lot of etiquette when it comes to parking in an electric vehicle spot. Sometimes, it’s bad etiquette, like parking a Tesla in a short-term electric vehicle spot. Or the ultimate sin, when drivers intentionally park their internal combustion engines (ICE) in dedicated electric vehicle (EV) charging spots. EV drivers called it ‘getting ICEd.’ It happened to Oak Bay resident Valerie Irvine this summer on a visit to Oak Bay municipal hall. Most days, Irvine ensures her 2011 Leaf is fully charged enough for the day’s needs but on a particular visit to the hall, she hoped to use one of Oak Bay’s two EV charging spots. One of the charging spots was free but a man beat her to it and parked his gas powered truck instead. “I politely asked him if I could park there and he belligerently swore and walked off into municipal hall,” Irvine said. “He said, ‘it doesn’t say I can’t park there.'” In fact, it is legal to ICE a car in Oak Bay as the EV charging spots are for any type of car. To keep Oak Bay’s pair of level two chargers in the municipal hall parking lot relatively free, they are limited to 30 minutes. That said, a lot of proper etiquette often goes unseen, however, such as when an electric vehicle driver opts to leave their car in a regular parking spot. Generally speaking, Tesla drivers are among the electric cars you won’t see in the local parking spots dedicated to car charging, said Glen Garry of the Victoria Electric Vehicle Club (VEVC). “These types of spots are mostly for short range vehicles that need it,” Garry said. “You won’t see a Tesla in one of these charging stations, since they have a range of 400 kilometres.” It’s all part of the shift from ICE vehicles to EVs, which is going to be a major component in reducing the carbon footprint of British Columbians. Incentives for EVs in B.C. are about $1,500 for short range and $3,000 for long range. The solution is not just more EV cars and public EV chargers, the latter of which are on their way across B.C., but also the addition of level two and three home chargers, Garry said. A level two (30 amp, or 240 volt) is about $1,000 to $2,000, depending on the house electric set up. Using the level one (standard 120 volt) charge of a home plug isn’t realistic for longer range. “It’s actually extremely cheap,” Irvine said. “And it supports a shift. If we don’t want to go extinct, we need a shift.” The province and B.C. Hydro are also each offering $350 incentives (for a total of $700) towards the purchase of an EV charger in a single-family home. BC Hydro is also offering greater incentives for chargers in multi-unit buildings and workplace organizations. Garry sits on the VEVC Board of Directors and also leads the Government Engagement Committee. The VEVC aren’t just a car club, they are a well-oiled organization with a mission to accelerate the adoption of clean transportation and energy. They have worked with planners at the city, provincial and federal government levels as advocates of clean vehicles. “The majority of our daily carbon footprint is our car and our home heating,” Garry said. “If you can find a way to heat (or cool) your home without oil, and commute without gas, we humans take a huge step forward.” As for Oak Bay, there are a few chargers around, but not many. Oak Bay Beach Hotel has some, but they are reserved for patrons. University of Victoria needs more (academics tend to be leaders in innovation). Hillside mall’s are often co-opted by ICE cars and non-charging EV cars (faux pas). Fairfield Plaza could really use some, Irvine added. You might hunt
[EVDL] Bosch pyroswitches/pyrofuses> 1 bash& EV's wiring is shot
https://www.wired.com/story/evs-fire-pyroswitches-cut-risk-shock-crash/ EVs Fire Up Pyroswitches to Cut Risk of Shock After a Crash 10.06.2019 Alex Davies [images https://media.wired.com/photos/5d97dafc01e4a400082613b3/master/w_2560%2Cc_limit/Transpo_carcrash_KGGNX5.jpg Photograph: Alamy https://media.wired.com/photos/5d97daa428aa88000843488a/master/w_1280%2Cc_limit/Transpo_Bosch_Airbag_IC_Print-(300-dpi).jpg EV chip Bosch developed the CG912 semiconductor chip for triggering airbags, but it works just as well for sparking a tiny guillotine to cut an electric vehicle’s high-voltage cables. Illustration: Bosch ] Electric cars run on 400 volts or more. So automakers are designing systems to protect EMTs and others from exposed wires following a collision. After more than a century of powering their wares with engines that produce hundreds of small, carefully controlled explosions each minute, the auto industry is moving toward a battery-driven future. But that doesn’t mean one without any helpful explosions. Last month, industry supplier Bosch revealed details on what it calls the pyrofuse, a new safety tool for electric cars. When the system detects a crash, its uses a bit of combustion to fire small wedges into the high-voltage cables, severing the connections between the battery and the power electronics. The idea is to reduce the risk of electrocution for first responders. Here’s why that’s necessary: Conventional cars run about 12 volts of power, but many electrics use 400 volts. The new Porsche Taycan uses double that. That power bump has pushed the auto industry to develop new ways to keep everybody safe. Along with careful insulation of battery packs and high-voltage components, automakers and suppliers have developed a variety of pyrotechnic safety switches that activate in the event of a crash. Autoliv’s Pyroswitch throws a switch to disconnect the power source from the circuit board. Tesla has patented an “arc-suppressing gas blast in pyrotechnic disconnect” [ https://insideevs.com/news/334322/tesla-patents-pyrotechnic-battery-safety-device/ ] that appears to work similarly. Bosch’s system goes further by actually cutting wires. “It’s a secure disconnection,” says Thorsten Koepke, the company’s product manager for semiconductors, “a physical opening of the wire.” His team produced the chip that uses deceleration and other data from the car to identify a crash. They originally developed the chip for use in airbags, but it serves the same function here. The exact workings of the system, including the conditions under which it will trigger, are up to the automaker, but the general idea is that the chip triggers a small explosion, similar to the chemical reaction that inflates an airbag. But here it will launch wedges into the wires in question—as many as eight, if the car has a motor at each wheel, Koepke says. And while Bosch declines to name its clients, Koepke says it’s already in use in cars on the road. “It’s like a little guillotine.” -Huseyin Hiziroglu, Kettering University Pyroswitches are relatively common, but this use case is novel, says Huseyin Hiziroglu, an electrical engineer at Kettering University in Flint, Michigan. “It’s like a little guillotine.” One that looks to save lives instead of take them but that delivers the same sort of permanence. The downside of this safety-minded system is that repairing a crashed electric car will involve installing a lot of new wiring. Which means, most likely, spending a lot of money. “I’m sure it will be quite expensive,” Hiziroglu says. Jason Siegel, a research scientist at the University of Michigan who studies lithium-ion batteries, says pyrofuses “can provide a much-needed safety net for first responders.” But it’s not clear that taking the extra step of severing the wires will change how EMTs and others approach a crashed vehicle, since they won’t know that the little guillotine has done its work. “I don’t see first responders reaching for a [voltage-measuring] Fluke meter to check if the wires are live before cutting when someone is trapped in the vehicle,” he says. There are more than a million electric cars roaming American roads, but, so far, worries around high-voltage crashes haven’t come to fruition. Andrew Klock, who works on EVs and other emerging issues for the National Fire Protection Agency, says he doesn’t know of any first responders who have been zapped. The nonprofit group has trained 225,000 EMTs, firefighters, police, and others to deal with electric cars in the past decade. Relatively simple advice has proven effective. “You just stay away from any broken cables,” Klock says. First responders who need to cut someone out from a mangled vehicle can check the agency’s Emergency Field Guide, which collects and standardizes key information on all the electric car models on the market, to make sure they’re well clear of any cables or components that could deliver a deadly shock. Stay away from those, Klock says,