Re: [EVDL] EVangel-About: ?Do I really want to be a Cyberpunk?
On 24 Nov 2019 at 20:26, Paul Compton via EV wrote: > Do US road rules not have requirements for pedestrian safety? No, and given the current government's direction, I don't see any on the horizon. I'm surprised they haven't yet dissolved NHTSA. We need pedestrian safety regulations pretty badly, too. The US's gluttony for large, high vehicles is tough on pedestrians. They tend to slide under the massive front ends and get crushed by the monster-truck wheels. > There's no way that design would pass European regulations. I agree. Maybe Musk looked at the much lower pickup truck sales rate in Europe and decided that he didn't care. But hey, with Brexit and the derisive attitudes of its proponents toward safety (see: Grenfell Tower), maybe he can sell a few thousand in the UK. What the design says about Musk's level of concern for pedestrian safety will be left as an exercise for the reader. For the record, since EVDLers are sometimes shocked that I don't worship Elon Musk's graven image :-\ I think that Teslas are well designed and I admire Musk's perseverance in pushing EVs, but I don't have a very high opinion of his behavior. IMO he needs to either shape up or step down soon, or he's apt to go down in flames, maybe taking Tesla with him. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Future smaller Tesla e-truck (light) hinted | 200+k orders
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EVLN: $40:250, 50:300, 70k:500mi Tesla pu e-truck> 150+k orders (v)
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https://electrek.co/2019/11/25/tesla-cybertruck-elon-musk-hints-smaller-electric-pickup-truck/
Tesla Cybertruck: Elon Musk hints at making smaller version of the electric
pickup truck
Nov. 25th 2019 Fred Lambert
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When you solve the manufacturing process, can you please also make a smaller
version of the #Cybertruck ?
I don’t want to block my whole street 藍
Elon Musk @elonmusk
Long term, it probably makes sense to build a smaller Cybertruck too
3:13 PM - Nov 24, 2019
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(e-truck from debut w/ bused windows)
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Elon Musk is hinting at Tesla making a smaller version of the Cybertruck
electric pickup truck in the future. He didn’t explain how they would make
it smaller.
Last week, Tesla unveiled its highly anticipated “Cybertruck,” the firm’s
first electric pickup truck, to mixed reviews.
The design of the vehicle is just as futuristic as Musk warned prior to the
event, but it still surprised many and remains polarizing.
Design aside, many were impressed by the specs and pricing of the Tesla
Cybertruck, which starts at only $39,900 before incentives and has up to 500
miles of range.
In many ways, Musk kept his promise that the Tesla pickup truck would cost
less than $50,000 and have better specs than the Ford F150.
Tesla never confirmed the dimensions of the Cybertruck, but Musk said on
stage that it is roughly the same size as the Ford F150.
Now on Twitter, Musk says that long term, Tesla could make a smaller version
of the Cybertruck ...
The CEO didn’t offer a clear timeline nor any detail on what a smaller
version of the Cybertruck would look like.
Smaller pickup trucks are a huge segment in the US, with vehicles like the
Toyota Tacoma, Nissan Frontier, and Chevrolet Colorado selling in good
numbers.
Those smaller vehicles are often referred to as “small” or “mid-size” pickup
trucks, and they often feature a smaller bed (4′ feet to 5 feet) and/or a
smaller cabin — generally still seating five, but with much less room in the
back.
Electrek’s Take
With the unveiling of the Tesla Cybertruck, I thought that if Tesla had a
“one more thing,” it would be a plan to build different electric vehicles on
the same platform as the pickup truck.
But now we know that it’s not happening because of Tesla’s novel way of
building the pickup truck, which basically consists of the frame of the
vehicle also being the body of the vehicle.
It means that there’s no room for changing the form factor and keeping the
platform.
However, Tesla can still leverage most of the work for the Tesla Cybertruck
and tweak a few things to make it smaller, like a smaller bed and cabin.
I think that could turn into a very interesting product.
On the low end, Tesla could maybe release it for around $35,000, which would
be another important cost improvement and open the truck to an even wider
market.
But I’d be particularly curious to see what it would look like on the high
end. The Cybertruck Tri-motor already has impressive performance with 500
miles of range and 0-60 mph acceleration in 2.9 seconds.
A smaller version of the truck could likely beat that.
[© electrek.co]
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-truck-orders/musk-suggests-tesla-has-20-orders-for-cybertruck-idUSKBN1XZ0G7
Musk suggests Tesla has 20 orders for Cybertruck
NOVEMBER 25, 2019 The launch of its futuristic pickup on Thursday ... Musk
... tweeted again on Sunday saying “200K” - an apparent reference to the
number of Cybertruck orders ... said the Cybertruck is Tesla’s last product
unveil for a while ...
start manufacturing the Cybertruck around late-2021 ...
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[EVDL] Not 1st Skoda EV: ... 2020 Skoda Citigo e iV> vw's cheapest EV
>Paul Compton via EV Mon, 25 Nov 2019 sez
First EV? What about the Skoda Elmo?<
A specific search
https://www.google.com/search?q=Skoda+Elmo+electric
finds, a .uk wanted post from 9 years ago:
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https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/181326-skoda-elmo/
Skoda Elmo - Items Wanted
aham_uk Sacriston Co. Durham
Nov 20, 2010 I've been looking for a skoda Elmo for years, if you know of
one sitting i want to buy it.
If people are confused, the Skoda elmo was an electric version of the
pickup. Range 50 miles. I have big plans!!! ...
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As I've posed before, the internet regularly gets whitewashed.
A plain-jane search
https://www.google.com/search?q=Skoda+Electric
only links to today's Skoda EV ...
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (vw-pr) 2020 Skoda Citigo e iV> vw's cheapest EV
First EV? What about the Skoda Elmo?
On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 at 00:32, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
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> https://uk.motor1.com/news/383224/skoda-citigoe-iv-pricing/
> Skoda Citigo E iV electric vehicle priced from £20,455
> 20 NOVEMBER 2019 Dominik Wilde
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> Gallery: 2020 Skoda Citigo e iV
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>
> Skoda announces pricing of its first EV
> Skoda has announced pricing details of its first all-electric car, a battery
> powered version of the Citigo supermini.
>
> The EV, dubbed the Citigo E iV, will be priced from £20,455 with the order
> books opening next month ahead of deliveries beginning early next year.
>
> The popular Citigo has been completely re-engineering for its transformation
> into an electric car, and now has a compact battery pack and efficient 61 kW
> electric motor which gives it a 170-mile range on a single charge. Despite
> the integration of the electric drivetrain, there's 250 litres of boot space
> available with the rear seats in position and 923 litres with them folded
> down. The 0-62 mph dash takes 12.5 seconds, while top speed is 81 mph.
>
> The battery can be charged to 80 percent in 4 hours 15 minutes using a 7.2kW
> AC wall box, or 12 hours 37 minutes using a lower-powered 3.6 kW
> home‑charging station. The SE L model can be charged faster using a CCS
> (Combined Charging System), achieving 80 percent of its charge in just 60
> minutes. The car can also be recharged using a standard household plug
> socket if a wall box is not available.
>
> Two trim levels will be available – SE and SE L. The SE, starting at
> £20,455, comes with climate control air conditioning, three spoke leather
> steering wheel and handbrake lever, plus Swing DAB radio and remote central
> locking.
>
> The SE L, priced from £22,815, and 16-inch alloy wheels, ambient lighting,
> comfort pack (heated front seats and rear parking sensors), and body
> coloured door mirrors and handles. The SE L model also has CCS charging
> capability that allows for rapid charging via 40kW charging stations.
>
> Both prices do not include the government's £3,500 grant for electric
> vehicles.
>
> The Skoda Citigo E iV can be linked to the Skoda Connect app which gives
> owners the ability to heck and control selected features of the car
> remotely, including battery status.
> [© motor1.com]
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> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=search_page=413529=skoda+citigo=0=date
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> https://www.carscoops.com/2019/11/2020-skoda-citigo%E1%B5%89-iv-is-vw-groups-cheapest-electric-vehicle/
> 2020 Skoda Citigo? iV Is VW Group's Cheapest Electric Vehicle
> Half a year ago, Skoda entered the EV segment for the first time with the
> Citigo? iV. Now, that model is about to go on sale in the UK, where order
> books will ...
> https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/2020-skoda-citigoe-iv-uk-1.jpg
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> https://www.vnews.com/Lebanon-Considers-Electric-Vehicle-Proposal-30574854
> Volkswagen subsidiary pitches electric vehicle charging stations in downtown
> Lebanon
> 11/19/2019 ... LEBANON — Downtown Lebanon could become home to four new
> electric vehicle charging stations under a proposal being considered by the
> City Council ...
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