Re: [EVDL] need new home ESVE

2023-06-16 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I looked at open EVSE and the "advanced series" looks like a great 
product. But it costs more and doesn't have the right plug. The latter 
is a minor thing, but if I don't have to change out an outlet, with 
tight wiring, I'll be happier :) I'll take a look at the product details 
again and see if there are any compelling features.


Peri

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From: "Rick Beebe via EV" 
To: "Peri Hartman via EV" 
Cc: "Rick Beebe" 
Sent: 16-Jun-23 12:34:50
Subject: Re: [EVDL] need new home ESVE


I have two of these, of various vintages, and they work great, but I'm a fan of 
open source stuff:

https://openevse.com/

I also have a Clipper Creek 30amp one that has been rock solid.

--Rick

On 6/9/2023 10:31 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:

My ESVE stopped working. I'm planning to replace it and would like some 
suggestions.

The low voltage circuit blew a fuse. I put in a new one and it practically 
exploded. Obviously a dead short which, I presume, means the power supply went 
bad. I'm sure I could replace that but I'm not sure I want to spend the time 
trying to find the part and to do the swap.

I've looked online at several J1772 ESVEs. I have a 40A circuit with a nema 
6-50 socket (I think). I need a 20'-25' cable. Will be outdoor.

AEFA Mini Cooper
https://ev-chargers.com/mini/mini-cooper-se-ev-chargers/
$275, up to 40A (input or output, don't know), 6-50 option, compact.

Grizzl-E GR1-14-24-P, GR1-6-24-P
https://grizzl-e.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Classic-brochure-letter-2022-1.pdf
$395, 32A output on 40A circuit, 6-50 option, reasonably compact.

Kind of expensive: Juicebox 40
https://evcharging.enelx.com/images/JuiceBox/PDF/Next-Gen_JuiceBox_40_1_15.pdf
$649, 40A circuit, 14-50 plug (I'll have to rewire socket), moderately compact.

Consider: Lectron 30A
https://ev-lectron.com/products/lectron-portable-electric-car-charger-32a
$306. Can't find any specs, which gives strong negative vibes.

Any suggestions ?

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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Vroom, vroom oops

2023-06-16 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I'm not surprised. The question is how many years will people want these 
effects. People resist change, or at least take time to adapt.  But 
those who grow up with the "new way" don't need to change and probably 
could care less about the transitional elements.


Peri

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Sent: 16-Jun-23 12:17:51
Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: Vroom, vroom oops


I'm speechless, and you know that doesn't happen often.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/15/23762020/electric-ev-manual-transmission-
fake-noise-toyota-lexus

or https://v.gd/yzYmkI

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it.  Use my
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Vroom, vroom oops

2023-06-16 Thread Lee Hart via EV

EV List Lackey via EV wrote:

I'm speechless, and you know that doesn't happen often.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/15/23762020/electric-ev-manual-transmission-
fake-noise-toyota-lexus

or https://v.gd/yzYmkI


As described, it sounds like a pretty lame idea. But maybe that's just 
the author's opinion?


All ICEs with automatic transmissions still have "gearshift" levers. 
They are used for forward/reverse of course; but also to select various 
"performance" or "economy" modes of operation. People seem to expect 
them, and enjoy using them.


My EV conversions all had manual transmissions -- left over from when 
they were ICEs. The transmission made it easy to select between low, 
medium, and high-speed ranges. It was also a way to optimize performance 
and efficiency without a complicated or expensive motor or controller.


My Leaf EV has a "gear shift". It's just a switch that selects between 
forward/reverse, and normal/enhanced braking. It certainly has utility 
as an operating control, and gets used.


So the "gearshift" lever may no longer actually shift gears, but it's a 
familiar control that will just get re-purposed for other uses.


Lee

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Re: [EVDL] need new home ESVE

2023-06-16 Thread Rick Beebe via EV
I have two of these, of various vintages, and they work great, but I'm a 
fan of open source stuff:


https://openevse.com/

I also have a Clipper Creek 30amp one that has been rock solid.

--Rick

On 6/9/2023 10:31 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
My ESVE stopped working. I'm planning to replace it and would like 
some suggestions.


The low voltage circuit blew a fuse. I put in a new one and it 
practically exploded. Obviously a dead short which, I presume, means 
the power supply went bad. I'm sure I could replace that but I'm not 
sure I want to spend the time trying to find the part and to do the swap.


I've looked online at several J1772 ESVEs. I have a 40A circuit with a 
nema 6-50 socket (I think). I need a 20'-25' cable. Will be outdoor.


AEFA Mini Cooper
https://ev-chargers.com/mini/mini-cooper-se-ev-chargers/
$275, up to 40A (input or output, don't know), 6-50 option, compact.

Grizzl-E GR1-14-24-P, GR1-6-24-P
https://grizzl-e.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Classic-brochure-letter-2022-1.pdf 


$395, 32A output on 40A circuit, 6-50 option, reasonably compact.

Kind of expensive: Juicebox 40
https://evcharging.enelx.com/images/JuiceBox/PDF/Next-Gen_JuiceBox_40_1_15.pdf 

$649, 40A circuit, 14-50 plug (I'll have to rewire socket), moderately 
compact.


Consider: Lectron 30A
https://ev-lectron.com/products/lectron-portable-electric-car-charger-32a
$306. Can't find any specs, which gives strong negative vibes.

Any suggestions ?

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[EVDL] EVLN: Vroom, vroom oops

2023-06-16 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
I'm speechless, and you know that doesn't happen often.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/15/23762020/electric-ev-manual-transmission-
fake-noise-toyota-lexus

or https://v.gd/yzYmkI

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it.  Use my 
offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt

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 First they came for the journalists.  We don't know what 
 happened after that.  

  -- Unknown
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