[EVDL] 500 $ per charge???

2014-07-09 Thread Electric Blue auto convertions via EV
I was reading post and saw David and some one else talking about Tesla charges 
going back  forth from NYC to DC. @ 500$ per charge?? i would rather own a 
dodge viper and know up front I am getting hosed at the gas pump. Thats 
ridiculous...500$ or am I reading it wrong? Or coming in on this topic to late 
?? 
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Re: [EVDL] 500 $ per charge???

2014-07-09 Thread Jamie K via EV

On 7/9/14 8:34 AM, Electric Blue auto convertions via EV wrote:

I was reading post and saw David and some one else talking about Tesla charges 
going back  forth from NYC to DC. @ 500$ per charge?? i would rather own a 
dodge viper and know up front I am getting hosed at the gas pump. Thats 
ridiculous...500$ or am I reading it wrong? Or coming in on this topic to late ??


He was taking the price difference between the two Model S battery 
versions and applying it to the difference in range. Further, he was 
only looking at commuting over a particular route for a year, or some 
such, leading to his conclusion that each charge  on that route over one 
year would account for $500 of that price difference.


It was a rather arbitrary argument since the Model S will last much 
longer than one year and the Model S could be used for many other trips 
where the higher range battery might have more value.


But his point was that for the regular trip in question, paying for the 
longer range Model S was not cost effective, in his opinion. Someone 
else may have a different opinion, especially if they do more than that 
one regular trip.


Still, the difference in price as he quoted it is enough to buy a LEAF, 
so I'm sure Tesla buyers who are stretching to afford the Model S have 
to consider if they really need the longer range battery. Or for that 
matter, if they should buy a LEAF and just take the train for that one 
particular commute, as someone else suggested.


There is actually no per charge fee for Supercharger use for the Model 
S. Think of it as free charging for the life of the vehicle.


Supercharger access is included as a standard feature with the higher 
range Model S. However, IIRC There is a one-time fee of several thousand 
bucks if you buy the lower range Model S and choose the Supercharger 
access option. Again, there is no actual payment needed per charge at 
the Supercharger itself.


Cheers,
 -Jamie



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Re: [EVDL] 500 $ per charge???

2014-07-09 Thread Michael Ross via EV
I think this is how it went:

There was a calculation offered that it costs $26000 more for the extra
range of a Tesla needed to go from DC to NYC, compared to owning a Leaf and
renting an ICE for the long trip.  A number of trips was thrown out and
divided into that $26K to get $500 a trip.  Not the cost of charging (which
is free) - but instead the cost for owning an S just to make long trips.

The main point is an S is very costly and extravagant.  A Leaf with
occasional use of an ICE (or maybe ther will be rentals of S models...)
makes a lot of sense.

For me a Leaf is extravagant.




On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Electric Blue auto convertions via EV 
ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:

 I was reading post and saw David and some one else talking about Tesla
 charges going back  forth from NYC to DC. @ 500$ per charge?? i would
 rather own a dodge viper and know up front I am getting hosed at the gas
 pump. Thats ridiculous...500$ or am I reading it wrong? Or coming in on
 this topic to late ??
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