Re: [EVDL] 72 volt swapable scooter battery

2016-05-10 Thread Lee Hart via EV

Willie2 via EV wrote:

I've bought several such things through AliExpress from 24v up to 144v.
Typically sold as ebike batteries. SB50 connectors are common.

http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=lithium+ebike+batteries

Lee will tell you, and I don't question him, that Ping is the quality
supplier: http://www.pingbattery.com/search.php?search_query=72v=0=0


I don't have any experience with them; but someone else posted that they 
had a positive experience. Was it David Roden? Check the archives.


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Re: [EVDL] 72 volt swapable scooter battery

2016-05-10 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 10 May 2016 at 11:02, Willie2 via EV wrote:

> Lee will tell you, and I don't question him, that Ping is the quality 
> supplier:

> http://www.pingbattery.com/search.php?search_query=72v=0=0

I don't know about Lee Hart, but I have 3 Ping batteries (so far), and all 
have been 100% reliable.  

I am using them as they're intended, for low power applications.

They use pouch cells.  These are not high power batteries.  They're  
designed for e-bikes, not car-size EVs.  Li Ping himself, who unlike many 
Chinese suppliers is in this business for the long run, used to not 
recommend sustained loads over 1C. The cells have evolved over time, and he 
is also now a little more optimistic: 

"Based on longer than 7 years experiences and feedbacks from our customers 
(from V2.0 to V2.5), we can confidently say our battery cells are capable of 
2C continuous current draw without significant capacity reduction for many 
years. The cells can be also drained at higher C rates if more years of 
battery life is not expected."

So I would recommend a Ping battery for a 50-100lb e-bike or scooter, but 
not for something weighing half a ton or more. 

There are lots of other Chinese suppliers, some MUCH cheaper.  I did a lot 
of research on the e-bike forums before I bought my batteries.  Some of the 
posts are no doubt out of date, because Chinese suppliers come and go fairly 
rapidly.  The sense I got though was that if you buy a nameless wonder 
battery and it fails early, you often can't count on the supplier to be 
around - or to care if he is.  Also, take all specs with a grain of 
(lithium) salt.  

Ping got mostly positive reviews, so that's what I chose despite the price.  
But as I say, I don't recommend them for high power use.

Caveat emptor and good luck!

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
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Re: [EVDL] 72 volt swapable scooter battery

2016-05-10 Thread Willie2 via EV

On 05/10/2016 10:48 AM, ken via EV wrote:

  I'm looking for 1 to use as craw home type of thing. like 72 volt 20 amp hr.

60 ah burst , 30 ahr steady. w/ BMS . some thing with a plastic case n
anderson. maybe with pouch cells ? some that has been tryed n proven.

I've bought several such things through AliExpress from 24v up to 144v.  
Typically sold as ebike batteries.  SB50 connectors are common.


http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=lithium+ebike+batteries

Lee will tell you, and I don't question him, that Ping is the quality 
supplier:

http://www.pingbattery.com/search.php?search_query=72v=0=0

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[EVDL] 72 volt swapable scooter battery

2016-05-10 Thread ken via EV
 I'm looking for 1 to use as craw home type of thing. like 72 volt 20 amp hr.

60 ah burst , 30 ahr steady. w/ BMS . some thing with a plastic case n
anderson. maybe with pouch cells ? some that has been tryed n proven.

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