Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Luca ocean-waste-plastic EV> 2seat 2in-wheel rear e-motor paper-concept
Peri Hartman via EV wrote: I particularly like that they will simply display & mic your phone rather than write stupid software that doesn't work well. EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: Not everyone has a smartphone, or wants one. Some people don't even have or want mobile phones of any kind. So I guess those who don't can't own this EV? Or am I misunderstanding this? I'm another who doesn't have, or want a smartphone. I still use my 15-year-old flip-phone; it does everything I want, and nothing I *don't* want. It works fine, runs for weeks on the battery, and only costs me $10 a month for service. I particularly don't want something that's an obvious theft hazard, data privacy risk, and easy hacker target. I also don't want something I have to replace every few years, and re-learn how it works. But I can see using a smartphone for applications that you actually do want and need. I'd just want one where all the extra "crap" could be left out or turned off. Curmudgeon-Lee Hart -- Ring the bells that still can ring Forget your perfect offering There is a crack in everything That's how the light gets in. -- Leonard Cohen, from "Anthem" -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Luca ocean-waste-plastic EV> 2seat 2in-wheel rear e-motor paper-concept
I suspect that, among early adopters, smart phone usage is virtually 100%. But, if you don't have one or don't want one, you can easily buy one for $50 without a SIM and just leave it in the car all the time. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "EVDL Administrator" To: "Peri Hartman" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 19-Jan-20 8:50:14 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Luca ocean-waste-plastic EV> 2seat 2in-wheel rear e-motor paper-concept On 19 Jan 2020 at 16:37, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: I particularly like that they will simply display & mic your phone rather than write stupid software that doesn't work well. Not everyone has a smartphone, or wants one. Some people don't even have or want mobile phones of any kind. So I guess those who don't can't own this EV? Or am I misunderstanding this? David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Luca ocean-waste-plastic EV> 2seat 2in-wheel rear e-motor paper-concept
On 19 Jan 2020 at 16:37, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > I particularly like that they will simply display & mic your phone > rather than write stupid software that doesn't work well. Not everyone has a smartphone, or wants one. Some people don't even have or want mobile phones of any kind. So I guess those who don't can't own this EV? Or am I misunderstanding this? David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Luca ocean-waste-plastic EV> 2seat 2in-wheel rear e-motor paper-concept
Cool ideas. Just a concept, of course, but maybe this will spur others in this direction. Besides recycling plastic, I particularly like that they will simply display & mic your phone rather than write stupid software that doesn't work well. Maybe they can build in a phone holder that automatically charges, too. So, when you place the phone in the holder, it runs the car app, which might do things such as: - adjust interiors, mirrors to your preferences stored in the phone, - instruct the semi autonomous driving to direct you to the location you chose on your phone map, - allows you to review, on the car screen, missed phone calls and other messages and listen to them, - automatically connect audio to the car speakers and continue with whatever you were listening to, - maintain the privacy settings you already have and not make you agree to giving the Luca company your contacts, location, and other data - stays in your phone and the car. (I'm making up for bad dreams last night :) Peri -- Original Message -- From: "brucedp5 via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "brucedp5" Sent: 19-Jan-20 2:16:59 AM Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: Luca ocean-waste-plastic EV> 2seat 2in-wheel rear e-motor paper-concept https://www.inceptivemind.com/luca-concept-electric-car-made-recycled-ocean-plastic/11329/ Luca concept electric car made from recycled plastic January 15, 2020 Amit Malewar [images https://www.inceptivemind.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Luca-concept-car.jpg Luca concept electric car made from recycled plastic. Credit: TU/ecomotive https://www.inceptivemind.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Luca-concept-car-2.jpg The front and the rear will have spaceframes made out of recycled aluminium. https://www.inceptivemind.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Luca-concept-car-4.jpg The part where the driver and passenger will be made of the sandwich panel. https://www.inceptivemind.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Luca-concept-car-3.jpg Luca will utilize in-wheel motors. ] The Dutch scientists from the Eindhoven University of Technology have developed a concept for a compact sports EV made from recycled ocean plastic. A significant portion of the machine is supposed to be made from the plastic waste disposed of from the ocean. According to the team, the Luca project is designed not only to make electric cars cheaper but also to show that this waste can also be a valuable resource. Humanity creates 2.1 billion tons of waste annually, of which 70% ends up in landfills. By using the recycled materials in the car, the team Luca wants to address this problem of waste in the world and to increase the percentage of materials that are being recycled. As per the description of the concept, the chassis of the machine will be made of a unique sandwich panel using a rigid and durable composite material consisting of 100% recycled PET. The ‘skins’ of this panel will be made out of flax fibers impregnated with polypropylene, which is recycled from plastics coming straight out the ocean. And the body will also be made of the mixture of recycled polypropylene and “UBQ” materials. UBQ is an Israeli-based cleantech company that converts unsorted household waste into a bio-based raw material. The metal components of the hull and chassis are planned to be made from the recycled metal of decommissioned aircraft and spacecraft. The Luca electric car will have room for two persons and be driven by two fully electric in-wheel motors located in the rear wheels with a combined power of 15 kW. This type of motors prevents losses in the drivetrain and can reach a battery-to-wheel efficiency of up to 92%. These two motors will be powered by six modular batteries that can easily be replaced either with full batteries or even with new batteries when better technology is available. There are no huge infotainment displays inside the Luca interior, as the developers consider this as a waste of resources. Instead, the car will sync with your smartphone or tablet for information and entertainment needs. When connected, the gadget turns into a remote control for the audio system and other secondary entertainment options. While Luca exists only on paper, but this is not just a bold concept. University engineers have already begun to create a working prototype of the machine. It is assumed that he will be ready in June 2020. [© inceptivemind.com] For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ {brucedp.neocities.org} -- Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub
[EVDL] EVLN: Luca ocean-waste-plastic EV> 2seat 2in-wheel rear e-motor paper-concept
https://www.inceptivemind.com/luca-concept-electric-car-made-recycled-ocean-plastic/11329/ Luca concept electric car made from recycled plastic January 15, 2020 Amit Malewar [images https://www.inceptivemind.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Luca-concept-car.jpg Luca concept electric car made from recycled plastic. Credit: TU/ecomotive https://www.inceptivemind.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Luca-concept-car-2.jpg The front and the rear will have spaceframes made out of recycled aluminium. https://www.inceptivemind.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Luca-concept-car-4.jpg The part where the driver and passenger will be made of the sandwich panel. https://www.inceptivemind.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Luca-concept-car-3.jpg Luca will utilize in-wheel motors. ] The Dutch scientists from the Eindhoven University of Technology have developed a concept for a compact sports EV made from recycled ocean plastic. A significant portion of the machine is supposed to be made from the plastic waste disposed of from the ocean. According to the team, the Luca project is designed not only to make electric cars cheaper but also to show that this waste can also be a valuable resource. Humanity creates 2.1 billion tons of waste annually, of which 70% ends up in landfills. By using the recycled materials in the car, the team Luca wants to address this problem of waste in the world and to increase the percentage of materials that are being recycled. As per the description of the concept, the chassis of the machine will be made of a unique sandwich panel using a rigid and durable composite material consisting of 100% recycled PET. The ‘skins’ of this panel will be made out of flax fibers impregnated with polypropylene, which is recycled from plastics coming straight out the ocean. And the body will also be made of the mixture of recycled polypropylene and “UBQ” materials. UBQ is an Israeli-based cleantech company that converts unsorted household waste into a bio-based raw material. The metal components of the hull and chassis are planned to be made from the recycled metal of decommissioned aircraft and spacecraft. The Luca electric car will have room for two persons and be driven by two fully electric in-wheel motors located in the rear wheels with a combined power of 15 kW. This type of motors prevents losses in the drivetrain and can reach a battery-to-wheel efficiency of up to 92%. These two motors will be powered by six modular batteries that can easily be replaced either with full batteries or even with new batteries when better technology is available. There are no huge infotainment displays inside the Luca interior, as the developers consider this as a waste of resources. Instead, the car will sync with your smartphone or tablet for information and entertainment needs. When connected, the gadget turns into a remote control for the audio system and other secondary entertainment options. While Luca exists only on paper, but this is not just a bold concept. University engineers have already begun to create a working prototype of the machine. It is assumed that he will be ready in June 2020. [© inceptivemind.com] For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ {brucedp.neocities.org} -- Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)