Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Luca ocean-waste-plastic EV> 2seat 2in-wheel rear e-motor paper-concept

2020-01-19 Thread Lee Hart via EV

Peri Hartman via EV wrote:

I particularly like that they will simply display & mic your phone
rather than write stupid software that doesn't work well.


EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:

Not everyone has a smartphone, or wants one.  Some people don't even have or
want mobile phones of any kind.  So I guess those who don't can't own this
EV?  Or am I misunderstanding this?


I'm another who doesn't have, or want a smartphone. I still use my 
15-year-old flip-phone; it does everything I want, and nothing I *don't* 
want. It works fine, runs for weeks on the battery, and only costs me 
$10 a month for service.


I particularly don't want something that's an obvious theft hazard, data 
privacy risk, and easy hacker target. I also don't want something I have 
to replace every few years, and re-learn how it works.


But I can see using a smartphone for applications that you actually do 
want and need. I'd just want one where all the extra "crap" could be 
left out or turned off.


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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Luca ocean-waste-plastic EV> 2seat 2in-wheel rear e-motor paper-concept

2020-01-19 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I suspect that, among early adopters, smart phone usage is virtually 
100%. But, if you don't have one or don't want one, you can easily buy 
one for $50 without a SIM and just leave it in the car all the time.


Peri

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On 19 Jan 2020 at 16:37, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:


 I particularly like that they will simply display & mic your phone
 rather than write stupid software that doesn't work well.


Not everyone has a smartphone, or wants one.  Some people don't even have or
want mobile phones of any kind.  So I guess those who don't can't own this
EV?  Or am I misunderstanding this?

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Luca ocean-waste-plastic EV> 2seat 2in-wheel rear e-motor paper-concept

2020-01-19 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 19 Jan 2020 at 16:37, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:

> I particularly like that they will simply display & mic your phone
> rather than write stupid software that doesn't work well. 

Not everyone has a smartphone, or wants one.  Some people don't even have or 
want mobile phones of any kind.  So I guess those who don't can't own this 
EV?  Or am I misunderstanding this?

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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Luca ocean-waste-plastic EV> 2seat 2in-wheel rear e-motor paper-concept

2020-01-19 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Cool ideas. Just a concept, of course, but maybe this will spur others 
in this direction. Besides recycling plastic, I particularly like that 
they will simply display & mic your phone rather than write stupid 
software that doesn't work well.


Maybe they can build in a phone holder that automatically charges, too. 
So, when you place the phone in the holder, it runs the car app, which 
might do things such as:

- adjust interiors, mirrors to your preferences stored in the phone,
- instruct the semi autonomous driving to direct you to the location you 
chose on your phone map,
- allows you to review, on the car screen, missed phone calls and other 
messages and listen to them,
- automatically connect audio to the car speakers and continue with 
whatever you were listening to,
- maintain the privacy settings you already have and not make you agree 
to giving the Luca company your contacts, location, and other data - 
stays in your phone and the car.


(I'm making up for bad dreams last night :)

Peri

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Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: Luca ocean-waste-plastic EV> 2seat 2in-wheel rear 
e-motor paper-concept





https://www.inceptivemind.com/luca-concept-electric-car-made-recycled-ocean-plastic/11329/
Luca concept electric car made from recycled plastic
January 15, 2020  Amit Malewar

[images
https://www.inceptivemind.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Luca-concept-car.jpg
Luca concept electric car made from recycled plastic. Credit: TU/ecomotive

https://www.inceptivemind.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Luca-concept-car-2.jpg
The front and the rear will have spaceframes made out of recycled aluminium.

https://www.inceptivemind.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Luca-concept-car-4.jpg
The part where the driver and passenger will be made of the sandwich panel.

https://www.inceptivemind.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Luca-concept-car-3.jpg
Luca will utilize in-wheel motors.
]

The Dutch scientists from the Eindhoven University of Technology have
developed a concept for a compact sports EV made from recycled ocean
plastic. A significant portion of the machine is supposed to be made from
the plastic waste disposed of from the ocean.

According to the team, the Luca project is designed not only to make
electric cars cheaper but also to show that this waste can also be a
valuable resource.

Humanity creates 2.1 billion tons of waste annually, of which 70% ends up in
landfills. By using the recycled materials in the car, the team Luca wants
to address this problem of waste in the world and to increase the percentage
of materials that are being recycled.

As per the description of the concept, the chassis of the machine will be
made of a unique sandwich panel using a rigid and durable composite material
consisting of 100% recycled PET. The ‘skins’ of this panel will be made out
of flax fibers impregnated with polypropylene, which is recycled from
plastics coming straight out the ocean. And the body will also be made of
the mixture of recycled polypropylene and “UBQ” materials. UBQ is an
Israeli-based cleantech company that converts unsorted household waste into
a bio-based raw material. The metal components of the hull and chassis are
planned to be made from the recycled metal of decommissioned aircraft and
spacecraft.

The Luca electric car will have room for two persons and be driven by two
fully electric in-wheel motors located in the rear wheels with a combined
power of 15 kW. This type of motors prevents losses in the drivetrain and
can reach a battery-to-wheel efficiency of up to 92%. These two motors will
be powered by six modular batteries that can easily be replaced either with
full batteries or even with new batteries when better technology is
available.

There are no huge infotainment displays inside the Luca interior, as the
developers consider this as a waste of resources. Instead, the car will sync
with your smartphone or tablet for information and entertainment needs. When
connected, the gadget turns into a remote control for the audio system and
other secondary entertainment options.

While Luca exists only on paper, but this is not just a bold concept.
University engineers have already begun to create a working prototype of the
machine. It is assumed that he will be ready in June 2020.
[© inceptivemind.com]




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[EVDL] EVLN: Luca ocean-waste-plastic EV> 2seat 2in-wheel rear e-motor paper-concept

2020-01-19 Thread brucedp5 via EV


https://www.inceptivemind.com/luca-concept-electric-car-made-recycled-ocean-plastic/11329/
Luca concept electric car made from recycled plastic
January 15, 2020  Amit Malewar

[images  
https://www.inceptivemind.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Luca-concept-car.jpg
Luca concept electric car made from recycled plastic. Credit: TU/ecomotive

https://www.inceptivemind.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Luca-concept-car-2.jpg
The front and the rear will have spaceframes made out of recycled aluminium.

https://www.inceptivemind.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Luca-concept-car-4.jpg
The part where the driver and passenger will be made of the sandwich panel.

https://www.inceptivemind.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Luca-concept-car-3.jpg
Luca will utilize in-wheel motors.
]

The Dutch scientists from the Eindhoven University of Technology have
developed a concept for a compact sports EV made from recycled ocean
plastic. A significant portion of the machine is supposed to be made from
the plastic waste disposed of from the ocean.

According to the team, the Luca project is designed not only to make
electric cars cheaper but also to show that this waste can also be a
valuable resource.

Humanity creates 2.1 billion tons of waste annually, of which 70% ends up in
landfills. By using the recycled materials in the car, the team Luca wants
to address this problem of waste in the world and to increase the percentage
of materials that are being recycled.

As per the description of the concept, the chassis of the machine will be
made of a unique sandwich panel using a rigid and durable composite material
consisting of 100% recycled PET. The ‘skins’ of this panel will be made out
of flax fibers impregnated with polypropylene, which is recycled from
plastics coming straight out the ocean. And the body will also be made of
the mixture of recycled polypropylene and “UBQ” materials. UBQ is an
Israeli-based cleantech company that converts unsorted household waste into
a bio-based raw material. The metal components of the hull and chassis are
planned to be made from the recycled metal of decommissioned aircraft and
spacecraft.

The Luca electric car will have room for two persons and be driven by two
fully electric in-wheel motors located in the rear wheels with a combined
power of 15 kW. This type of motors prevents losses in the drivetrain and
can reach a battery-to-wheel efficiency of up to 92%. These two motors will
be powered by six modular batteries that can easily be replaced either with
full batteries or even with new batteries when better technology is
available.

There are no huge infotainment displays inside the Luca interior, as the
developers consider this as a waste of resources. Instead, the car will sync
with your smartphone or tablet for information and entertainment needs. When
connected, the gadget turns into a remote control for the audio system and
other secondary entertainment options.

While Luca exists only on paper, but this is not just a bold concept.
University engineers have already begun to create a working prototype of the
machine. It is assumed that he will be ready in June 2020.
[© inceptivemind.com]




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