Re: [EVDL] Rules ClarificationRe: (no subject)

2018-10-08 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV 
The guidelines (not exactly rules) on EV business on the EVDL don't say 
anything about where you work being a problem.

Here's what they DO say.

The EVDL is a noncommercial, informational resource. We don't allow it to be 
used for selling stuff. This includes posts that mainly promote a product or 
its website.

That said, where would we be without parts to build our EVs? We need 
reputable vendors and manufacturers of EV parts, products, and services for 
hobbyists. If you're one, you're welcome on the EVDL, but we ask that you 
follow a few guidelines:

No unprompted mentions. Don't post just to mention your products and/or 
services. Bring them up only when an existing conversation (thread) makes 
the discussion appropriate and natural. We're a bit flexible on this for 
long-time members, as long as it's done judiciously and tastefully. However, 
spamming is absolutely verboten. If you subscribe just to advertise, I 
guarantee that you'll be shown the door.

No promotional language. Announce and discuss your products and services 
only in factual, value-neutral terms (like NPR and PBS sponsorship 
announcements). Save the glowing descriptions for your own website.

No stealth mentions. If you're involved with a business that figures in 
your post, say so, and tell us what your involvement is.

Not too often. How often is too? Well, for example, if every time 
someone asks about controllers, you post about the controllers you have for 
sale, that's probably too often.

Support users of your products and services on the EVDL. This is not 
optional.

As best you can, also take part in general EV help and support, even 
when it's unrelated to your products and/or services. Many times, folks who 
build EV components have a long history in EVs, and a wealth of knowledge 
they can and should share with our members. It's in your own best interests 
anyway, because users you help are that much more apt to become your 
customers, no?

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator

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[EVDL] Rules ClarificationRe: (no subject)

2018-10-08 Thread Ron Solberg via EV 

 Quoting Damon Henry via EV :

Thanks for the reply.  I was probably overreacting  to the comments  
about work with Lee Hart's Sunrise as being commercial.  No doubt, my  
enthusiasm about being able to charge 5 Teslas here in our little town  
in MN led to confusion on my part. Since then, nearby Sioux Falls SD,  
has gained multiple Tesla Supercharger units. That said, *for now*,  
our CS 100 units cannot compete.


Ron Solberg 

Actually, the EVDL has never enforced any rules in regards to where  
or what kind of work you are allowed to do when contributing to the  
list.  For instance in my career I have bounced back and forth  
between being a programmer and an IT administrator in the Portland  
Or area and I have never been told I could not post to the list  
because of it :)


Damon

From: EV  on behalf of Ron Solberg via EV  


Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 11:20 AM
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Subject: [EVDL] (no subject)

I quit posting  on  the EVDL list sometime ago when I understood my
work with ClipperCreek CS 100 units to charge Tesla Model  S cars here
in Hills, MN, did not fit the rules.

Being born in 1941, I too have concerns about the downside of Tesla
"ownership', but I bought a Model 3 since I can write it off with my
business and I can charge it off my tracking solar PV system. I am
equally concerned about the planned obsolescence engineered into
modern ICE cars and the cost and availability of parts and mechanics
in the future, Therefore, I also drive a 1929 Model A Ford tudor. I am
not a mechanic, but I can fix it, I own it, it s basic and parts are
readily available. Five million were made so old and new parts are
available.

Ron Solberg
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