Re: [EVDL] Tesla Tap...I bought one.

[Rush Dougherty via EV]

Clear as mud... I think your story is just what you say it is - a story...

Can you mention any company names? Or is that not possible...

I only know of two companies that are selling the TeslaTap, QCP and UMC-J1772, 
and 
they are both exactly the same...  and manufactured by UMC-J1772. The TeslaTap 
is 
machined from a solid block of hard black plastic (don't know the name), and if 
you ran over it with your car, you'd feel a bump and it wouldn't hurt the Tesla 
Inlet at all... It is the J1772 Plug that would break first.

Rush Dougherty
www.TucsonEV.com
Tucson AZ 85719

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> The story I got is the Tesla Tap is made with better insulation.  The other
> company is buying parts.  Putting together their version.  It according to the
> parts supplier is not insulated. If run over there could be a big problem.  
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Tap...I bought one.

[Lawrence Rhodes via EV]

I don't know company names other than Tesla Tap is one company which uses the 
website UMC-J1772.  I talked to Dave I think.  He said the difference between 
units is one is urethane filled.  The other company doesn't fill with urethane. 
 Look at the advertisement I sent out. I think it says contact Dave.  I did.  
Then I bought it.  Seems it is a guy that had made many conversions.  Made one 
for himself.  Then started selling them.  Then started selling parts.   
Lawrence Rhodes

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  On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 12:09 AM, Rush Dougherty wrote: 
  Clear as mud... I think your story is just what you say it is - a story...

Can you mention any company names? Or is that not possible...

I only know of two companies that are selling the TeslaTap, QCP and UMC-J1772, 
and 
they are both exactly the same...  and manufactured by UMC-J1772. The TeslaTap 
is 
machined from a solid block of hard black plastic (don't know the name), and if 
you ran over it with your car, you'd feel a bump and it wouldn't hurt the Tesla 
Inlet at all... It is the J1772 Plug that would break first.

Rush Dougherty
www.TucsonEV.com
Tucson AZ 85719

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> The story I got is the Tesla Tap is made with better insulation.  The other
> company is buying parts.  Putting together their version.  It according to the
> parts supplier is not insulated. If run over there could be a big problem.  
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> that
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Tap...I bought one.

[Lawrence Rhodes via EV]

The story I got is the Tesla Tap is made with better insulation.  The other 
company is buying parts.  Putting together their version.  It according to the 
parts supplier is not insulated. If run over there could be a big problem.  Is 
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Tap...I bought one.

[Willie via EV]

On 06/29/2018 07:21 AM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:


DC to his battery instead of to his AC charger. I have never tried, but i
would not be surprised if the Leaf AC charger can accept DC, btw. I have a
burned but still working charger in my garage (long story, i helped someone
to fix his car), so i could try this.


Cor, if you make this determination, please post.  Especially the DC 
voltage range.


I now recall that I have an old EMW charger, 10 or 12 kw, that is 
supposed to operate on DC as well as AC.


If someone were bent on hacking a SuperCharger, running an onboard 
charger on DC might be the simplest thing to do.  Of course, that would 
likely limit charge power to 10-15kw.


If anyone is interested, I am diddling with several lash ups to allow 
low power Tesla charging from motel unit type heat/AC outlets.  Since 
distances are likely to be great, I'm attracted to using standard 
extension cords adapted to 240vac connections.




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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Tap...I bought one.

[Rush Dougherty via EV]

Lawrence - In this case, I choose to support the manufacturer, UMC-J1772.

QCP is buying them from UMC-J1772 in volume at a discount and then reselling 
them 
at the same price as QCP. I could, as TucsonEV, done the same thing, but chose 
not 
to. One of my reasons is that there is the real danger of somebody who doesn't 
know what they are doing (there are many EV owners that don't know what they 
are 
doing), might plug it into a supercharger and his Leaf might do something very 
unexpected... as Willie pointed out.

UMC-J1772 states on their home page that they are the manufacturer of the 
TeslaTap 
etc...

What do you mean by your 'one with exposed pins' statement? Can you be a 
little clearer? Are you stating that they are different products, that one has 
been modified? How do you know this? Have you actually inspected one from QCP 
and 
one from UMC-J1772 to verify this?



Rush Dougherty
www.TucsonEV.com
Tucson AZ 85719

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>
> So which is better, ethical and should be supported...in your opinion?  Not 
> sure
> who is who.  There is one with exposed pins which the manufacturer of the one
> with unexposed pins notified the manufacturer of the one with exposed pins to
> shield them.  This is starting to get confusing.  From what I know Tesla Tap 
> has 
> a
> urethane insert to protect from shorting in case of running over/other bad
> situations to the adapter.  Lawrence Rhodes
>
>
> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 19:10:31 -0700
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> To: "'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'" 
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla Tap...I bought one.
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> Yup, QCP has been selling them ever since http://www.umc-j1772.com/ started
> selling them. UMC-J1772 is the manufacturer, I bought one months ago to see
> what it was like and it works fine. I almost started to carry it, but figured 
> that
> since it is his product and his manufacturing he should reap the benefits.
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Tap...I bought one.

[Lawrence Rhodes via EV]

So which is better, ethical and should be supported...in your opinion?  Not 
sure who is who.  There is one with exposed pins which the manufacturer of the 
one with unexposed pins notified the manufacturer of the one with exposed pins 
to shield them.  This is starting to get confusing.  From what I know Tesla Tap 
has a urethane insert to protect from shorting in case of running over/other 
bad situations to the adapter.  Lawrence Rhodes


Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 19:10:31 -0700
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Yup, QCP has been selling them ever since http://www.umc-j1772.com/ started
selling them. UMC-J1772 is the manufacturer, I bought one months ago to see what
it was like and it works fine. I almost started to carry it, but figured that
since it is his product and his manufacturing he should reap the benefits.

Rush Dougherty
www.TucsonEV.com
Tucson AZ 85719

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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Tap...I bought one. (David Nelson)

[Lawrence Rhodes via EV]

The below may be the unshielded version or clone of the Tesla Tap.  The Tesla 
Tap is filled with urethane. Other similar units have exposed pins.   Buyer 
beware.  Lawrence RhodesQuick Charge Power has had an adapter for quite some 
time now:
https://shop.quickchargepower.com/JDapter-Stub-Tesla-Charge-Station-Adaptor-JDPTRSTB.htm



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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Tap...I bought one.

[Rush Dougherty via EV]

Yup, QCP has been selling them ever since http://www.umc-j1772.com/ started
selling them. UMC-J1772 is the manufacturer, I bought one months ago to see what
it was like and it works fine. I almost started to carry it, but figured that
since it is his product and his manufacturing he should reap the benefits.

Rush Dougherty
www.TucsonEV.com
Tucson AZ 85719


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> Quick Charge Power has had an adapter for quite some time now:
> https://shop.quickchargepower.com/JDapter-Stub-Tesla-Charge-Station-
> Adaptor-JDPTRSTB.htm
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Tap...I bought one.

[David Nelson via EV]

Quick Charge Power has had an adapter for quite some time now:
https://shop.quickchargepower.com/JDapter-Stub-Tesla-Charge-Station-Adaptor-JDPTRSTB.htm


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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Tap...I bought one.

[Cor van de Water via EV]

Hi Lawrence,
I am happy to see you so enthusiast, but you realize that this is just a plug 
converter, similar to when you travel to Europe and need a little plastic box 
to plug in your flat blade US laptop or USB charger, and insert the converter’s 
round pins into the EU outlet.
Same here – the 5 pin Tesla UMC charger is fully J1772 compliant with exception 
of using a sleeker plug. You get the exact same result if you cut off the Tesla 
plug from the UMC and attach a 80 Amp capable J1772 plug.
In fact, some people have done that to charge their EV with J1772 plug faster 
with the UMC.
Not sure why this would be disruptive – it is not like it would allow a regular 
EV charge at a Supercharger, that would be disruptive…
It is handy to be able to plug into the alternative of the ubiquitous J1772 
chargers that can be used by all EVs, including Teslas, and allow the regular 
EV to utilize the Tesla dedicated L2 chargers.

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From: Lawrence Rhodes via EV
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 1:48 PM
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Cc: Lawrence Rhodes
Subject: [EVDL] Tesla Tap...I bought one.

Truly disruptive technology!With Tesla’s massive charging network buildup of 
“Destination Chargers” at Hotels, motels,B’s nationwide you now can plug-in 
to their connectors everywhere using only this adapter.Driving a conversion, or 
other non-Tesla is now easier than ever! This unit will convert the Tesla High 
PowerWall Connection (HPWC) to your standard J-1772 inlet and give you a 
boosted charge. Available in 32, 40, 50and 80 Amp flavors (top image) with 
varying length cables. Using one of these — plan your next trip with ease!Visit 
http://www.umc-j1772.com/  or call Dave at 1 805 886-5213



I had a talk with the inventor.  Turns out there is a clone that is not 
urethane protected.  Also you have to read the directions.  You must plug into 
certain Tesla devices and wait 30 seconds.  Not for use with superchargers.  I 
have no deal with this guy.  Just passing on information.  Lawrence Rhodes
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[EVDL] Tesla Tap...I bought one.

[Lawrence Rhodes via EV]

Truly disruptive technology!With Tesla’s massive charging network buildup of 
“Destination Chargers” at Hotels, motels,B’s nationwide you now can plug-in 
to their connectors everywhere using only this adapter.Driving a conversion, or 
other non-Tesla is now easier than ever! This unit will convert the Tesla High 
PowerWall Connection (HPWC) to your standard J-1772 inlet and give you a 
boosted charge. Available in 32, 40, 50and 80 Amp flavors (top image) with 
varying length cables. Using one of these — plan your next trip with ease!Visit 
http://www.umc-j1772.com/  or call Dave at 1 805 886-5213



I had a talk with the inventor.  Turns out there is a clone that is not 
urethane protected.  Also you have to read the directions.  You must plug into 
certain Tesla devices and wait 30 seconds.  Not for use with superchargers.  I 
have no deal with this guy.  Just passing on information.  Lawrence Rhodes
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