Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools in our house

2021-03-19 Thread Lee Hart via EV 

Bobby Keeland via EV wrote:

Mark said “I’m also building a Tesla Coil that throws 5’ lightning bolts.”

Have you read the book “The Seventh Plague” written by James Rollins? In
that book there is an extensive part about a guy that wants to generate
power for everyone by building a giant Tesla Coil. The Tesla Coil did not
work in that book.


Haven't heard of the book; but Tesla's broadcasted power experiments 
were not tesla coils; they were low-frequency RF transmitters. At the 
right frequency, RF will bend to follow the atmosphere between the 
ground and space like a duct.


The theory is sound, but the losses are high and he didn't have the 
technology to make it practical.



I also want to build a trebuchet.


Little ones are fun, and not hard to build. I have a toy one built out 
of Erector set parts. Kids have fun throwing things with it. :-)



Unfortunately I’m still working on my solar water heater, my battery
backup for the solar panels, earth tubes and many other projects.


... not to mention electric cars. :-)


Retired does not mean having nothing to do ...


That's for sure!

Lee

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Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools in our house

2021-03-19 Thread (-Phil-) via EV 
No, it's an electric motor integrated into each rear caliper.  Direct
application, no cables or hydraulic.

On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 1:32 PM Peri Hartman via EV 
wrote:

> So, is that to be understood that there's a separate servo which pulls
> on cables independently attached to the calipers ? That would be similar
> to the leaf, though there's a button to actuate the servo.
> Peri
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> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" 
> Cc: "(-Phil-)" ; "Mark Hanson"
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> Sent: 19-Mar-21 1:11:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools in our
> house
>
> >This is incorrect.  Tesla has no parking Pawl.  Anytime you "park" the car
> >both rear calipers are independently applied, as will both remain hard
> >locked.  It won't roll into the lake.
> >
> >On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 8:54 AM paul dove via EV 
> wrote:
> >
> >>  No parking brake. It has a break paw in the gear box that engages when
> in
> >>  park.
> >>
> >>
> >>  Sent from AT Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> >>
> >>
> >>  On Friday, March 19, 2021, 9:32 AM, Mark Hanson via EV <
> ev@lists.evdl.org>
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>  Thanks Folks for helping me make my decision. The Ford Escape PHEV
> seems
> >>  like it’s made of Unobtanium anyway (factory Covid shutdowns,layoffs).
> >>  Maybe there’s a reason Ford’s stock remains in the single digits and
> Tesla
> >>  $300+.  I’ll pick up the Blue Tesla Y Saturday In Richmond, since I’m
> 65,
> >>  paid from my IRA so no payments $52k, 4 wheel drive 316 mile range.
> We’re
> >>  no longer fossil fools now with a Leaf, Bolt and a Tesla. I’m also
> building
> >>  a Tesla Coil that throws 5’ lightning bolts, 6.0 kit from Eastern
> voltage
> >>  research.com.
> >>  The Tesla Y looks like it has a steep learning curve compared to the
> Bolt.
> >>  Had to sign up last night for a Tesla account and download an app on my
> >>  iPhone to access the car. It looks like you’re Information tracked For
> >>  charging convenience (automatically charges credit card without using
> at
> >>  supercharger stations).  The controls are not in the usual places and
> a lot
> >>  is done through the laptop size touchscreen.  Probably why you don’t
> see
> >>  them as Hertz etc rentals. I’ll have to dig into the wire harness to
> set up
> >>  a trailer hitch from Etrailers.com To tow the boat.  Say where’s the
> >>  parking brake to set when I launch the ski boat at the boat ramp?  It
> would
> >>  be a bummer to submerge a $52k car.
> >>  One big reason for buying the Tesla Y is the self driving capability
> as we
> >>  get older and decrepit, so we don’t get kicked out of our house to an
> old
> >>  fart home like the nieghbors did when they couldn’t drive.  Of course
> >>  you’ll still have to have the cognition to operate this fancy car...
> >>  Have a renewable energy day
> >>  Mark
> >>
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Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools in our house

2021-03-19 Thread Peri Hartman via EV 
So, is that to be understood that there's a separate servo which pulls 
on cables independently attached to the calipers ? That would be similar 
to the leaf, though there's a button to actuate the servo.

Peri

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Sent: 19-Mar-21 1:11:37 PM
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house



This is incorrect.  Tesla has no parking Pawl.  Anytime you "park" the car
both rear calipers are independently applied, as will both remain hard
locked.  It won't roll into the lake.

On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 8:54 AM paul dove via EV  wrote:


 No parking brake. It has a break paw in the gear box that engages when in
 park.


 Sent from AT Yahoo Mail for iPhone


 On Friday, March 19, 2021, 9:32 AM, Mark Hanson via EV 
 wrote:

 Thanks Folks for helping me make my decision. The Ford Escape PHEV seems
 like it’s made of Unobtanium anyway (factory Covid shutdowns,layoffs).
 Maybe there’s a reason Ford’s stock remains in the single digits and Tesla
 $300+.  I’ll pick up the Blue Tesla Y Saturday In Richmond, since I’m 65,
 paid from my IRA so no payments $52k, 4 wheel drive 316 mile range.  We’re
 no longer fossil fools now with a Leaf, Bolt and a Tesla. I’m also building
 a Tesla Coil that throws 5’ lightning bolts, 6.0 kit from Eastern voltage
 research.com.
 The Tesla Y looks like it has a steep learning curve compared to the Bolt.
 Had to sign up last night for a Tesla account and download an app on my
 iPhone to access the car. It looks like you’re Information tracked For
 charging convenience (automatically charges credit card without using at
 supercharger stations).  The controls are not in the usual places and a lot
 is done through the laptop size touchscreen.  Probably why you don’t see
 them as Hertz etc rentals. I’ll have to dig into the wire harness to set up
 a trailer hitch from Etrailers.com To tow the boat.  Say where’s the
 parking brake to set when I launch the ski boat at the boat ramp?  It would
 be a bummer to submerge a $52k car.
 One big reason for buying the Tesla Y is the self driving capability as we
 get older and decrepit, so we don’t get kicked out of our house to an old
 fart home like the nieghbors did when they couldn’t drive.  Of course
 you’ll still have to have the cognition to operate this fancy car...
 Have a renewable energy day
 Mark

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Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools in our house

2021-03-19 Thread (-Phil-) via EV 
This is incorrect.  Tesla has no parking Pawl.  Anytime you "park" the car
both rear calipers are independently applied, as will both remain hard
locked.  It won't roll into the lake.

On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 8:54 AM paul dove via EV  wrote:

> No parking brake. It has a break paw in the gear box that engages when in
> park.
>
>
> Sent from AT Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Friday, March 19, 2021, 9:32 AM, Mark Hanson via EV 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Folks for helping me make my decision. The Ford Escape PHEV seems
> like it’s made of Unobtanium anyway (factory Covid shutdowns,layoffs).
> Maybe there’s a reason Ford’s stock remains in the single digits and Tesla
> $300+.  I’ll pick up the Blue Tesla Y Saturday In Richmond, since I’m 65,
> paid from my IRA so no payments $52k, 4 wheel drive 316 mile range.  We’re
> no longer fossil fools now with a Leaf, Bolt and a Tesla. I’m also building
> a Tesla Coil that throws 5’ lightning bolts, 6.0 kit from Eastern voltage
> research.com.
> The Tesla Y looks like it has a steep learning curve compared to the Bolt.
> Had to sign up last night for a Tesla account and download an app on my
> iPhone to access the car. It looks like you’re Information tracked For
> charging convenience (automatically charges credit card without using at
> supercharger stations).  The controls are not in the usual places and a lot
> is done through the laptop size touchscreen.  Probably why you don’t see
> them as Hertz etc rentals. I’ll have to dig into the wire harness to set up
> a trailer hitch from Etrailers.com To tow the boat.  Say where’s the
> parking brake to set when I launch the ski boat at the boat ramp?  It would
> be a bummer to submerge a $52k car.
> One big reason for buying the Tesla Y is the self driving capability as we
> get older and decrepit, so we don’t get kicked out of our house to an old
> fart home like the nieghbors did when they couldn’t drive.  Of course
> you’ll still have to have the cognition to operate this fancy car...
> Have a renewable energy day
> Mark
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools in our house

2021-03-19 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV 
On 19 Mar 2021 at 14:52, paul dove via EV wrote:

> No parking brake. It has a break paw in the gear box that engages when in
> park. 

I assume you mean a brake, not a break; and a parking pawl, not a paw.  
Otherwise you might have to take the poor critter to a veterinarian to get 
that broken paw set.  :-)

Typographical errors aside, I've never trusted the parking pawls in 
automatic transmissions.  I've heard of them shearing off.  

I'd be hesitant to buy a car without a real mechanical parking brake that 
actually engages the brake shoes or pads.  If I did, I'd carry wheel chocks.

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Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools in our house

2021-03-19 Thread Mark Hanson via EV 
Thanks Bob
Sounds like some good projects.  
A nieghbor built a trebuchet, threw mellons quite a distance.  I haven’t read 
the book, just Tesla’s.  Tesla confused spark length with radio transmitter 
efficacy.  
Stay Charged
Mark

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 19, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Bobby Keeland  wrote:


Mark said “I’m also building a Tesla Coil that throws 5’ lightning bolts.”

Have you read the book “The Seventh Plague” written by James Rollins? In that 
book there is an extensive part about a guy that wants to generate power for 
everyone by building a giant Tesla Coil. The Tesla Coil did not work in that 
book. I also have thought about building a Tesla Coil, but I also want to build 
a trebuchet. Unfortunately I’m still working on my solar water heater, my 
battery backup for the solar panels, earth tubes and many other projects. 
Retired does not mean having nothing to do ... 
Bob Keeland

> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 10:54 AM paul dove via EV  wrote:
> No parking brake. It has a break paw in the gear box that engages when in 
> park. 
> 
> 
> Sent from AT Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
> 
> On Friday, March 19, 2021, 9:32 AM, Mark Hanson via EV  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Folks for helping me make my decision. The Ford Escape PHEV seems like 
> it’s made of Unobtanium anyway (factory Covid shutdowns,layoffs).  Maybe 
> there’s a reason Ford’s stock remains in the single digits and Tesla $300+.  
> I’ll pick up the Blue Tesla Y Saturday In Richmond, since I’m 65, paid from 
> my IRA so no payments $52k, 4 wheel drive 316 mile range.  We’re no longer 
> fossil fools now with a Leaf, Bolt and a Tesla. I’m also building a Tesla 
> Coil that throws 5’ lightning bolts, 6.0 kit from Eastern voltage 
> research.com.  
> The Tesla Y looks like it has a steep learning curve compared to the Bolt. 
> Had to sign up last night for a Tesla account and download an app on my 
> iPhone to access the car. It looks like you’re Information tracked For 
> charging convenience (automatically charges credit card without using at 
> supercharger stations).  The controls are not in the usual places and a lot 
> is done through the laptop size touchscreen.  Probably why you don’t see them 
> as Hertz etc rentals. I’ll have to dig into the wire harness to set up a 
> trailer hitch from Etrailers.com To tow the boat.  Say where’s the parking 
> brake to set when I launch the ski boat at the boat ramp?  It would be a 
> bummer to submerge a $52k car.  
> One big reason for buying the Tesla Y is the self driving capability as we 
> get older and decrepit, so we don’t get kicked out of our house to an old 
> fart home like the nieghbors did when they couldn’t drive.  Of course you’ll 
> still have to have the cognition to operate this fancy car...
> Have a renewable energy day 
> Mark
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools in our house

2021-03-19 Thread Bobby Keeland via EV 
Mark said “I’m also building a Tesla Coil that throws 5’ lightning bolts.”

Have you read the book “The Seventh Plague” written by James Rollins? In
that book there is an extensive part about a guy that wants to generate
power for everyone by building a giant Tesla Coil. The Tesla Coil did not
work in that book. I also have thought about building a Tesla Coil, but I
also want to build a trebuchet. Unfortunately I’m still working on my solar
water heater, my battery backup for the solar panels, earth tubes and many
other projects. Retired does not mean having nothing to do ...
Bob Keeland

On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 10:54 AM paul dove via EV  wrote:

> No parking brake. It has a break paw in the gear box that engages when in
> park.
>
>
> Sent from AT Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Friday, March 19, 2021, 9:32 AM, Mark Hanson via EV 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Folks for helping me make my decision. The Ford Escape PHEV seems
> like it’s made of Unobtanium anyway (factory Covid shutdowns,layoffs).
> Maybe there’s a reason Ford’s stock remains in the single digits and Tesla
> $300+.  I’ll pick up the Blue Tesla Y Saturday In Richmond, since I’m 65,
> paid from my IRA so no payments $52k, 4 wheel drive 316 mile range.  We’re
> no longer fossil fools now with a Leaf, Bolt and a Tesla. I’m also building
> a Tesla Coil that throws 5’ lightning bolts, 6.0 kit from Eastern voltage
> research.com.
> The Tesla Y looks like it has a steep learning curve compared to the Bolt.
> Had to sign up last night for a Tesla account and download an app on my
> iPhone to access the car. It looks like you’re Information tracked For
> charging convenience (automatically charges credit card without using at
> supercharger stations).  The controls are not in the usual places and a lot
> is done through the laptop size touchscreen.  Probably why you don’t see
> them as Hertz etc rentals. I’ll have to dig into the wire harness to set up
> a trailer hitch from Etrailers.com To tow the boat.  Say where’s the
> parking brake to set when I launch the ski boat at the boat ramp?  It would
> be a bummer to submerge a $52k car.
> One big reason for buying the Tesla Y is the self driving capability as we
> get older and decrepit, so we don’t get kicked out of our house to an old
> fart home like the nieghbors did when they couldn’t drive.  Of course
> you’ll still have to have the cognition to operate this fancy car...
> Have a renewable energy day
> Mark
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools in our house

2021-03-19 Thread Willie via EV 



On 3/19/21 9:53 AM, paul dove via EV wrote:

Won’t know that till he goes to the DMV. Tesla doesn’t do that part


He will at least know all price components except for state tax and 
registration fees.  But, it is different from state to state as you 
indicate.  I assume that, in California, complete registration is 
handled by Tesla.  In Texas, mostly Tesla accepts payment excluding 
state fees/taxes, delivers needed paperwork with the car and the buyer 
goes to local tax office and pays sales tax and registration.  That 
complicates things for those expecting to finance the entire amount. 
Sales tax in Texas is 6% or thereabouts.  Registration less than $100. 
The last car I bought, 2018 3, Tesla tried to do the whole deal and 
badly botched it.  I paid Tesla the whole ball of wax including state 
fees/taxes.  I ended up driving the car illegally on paper tags for a 
couple of months before Tesla threw in the towel and refunded the state 
portion and supplied me the needed paperwork to take to tax office. 
Dealing with that final stage is and was trivial compared with Tesla 
doing it and failing.  I don't know what the Texas situation is right 
now.  We have hope that the Austin giga factory being very rapidly built 
will allow Tesla to triumph over the franchised auto dealers association 
lobby.

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Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools in our house

2021-03-19 Thread paul dove via EV 
Won’t know that till he goes to the DMV. Tesla doesn’t do that part


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On Friday, March 19, 2021, 9:40 AM, Peri Hartman via EV  
wrote:

Curious. What is your final price including dest fee, taxes, and 
licensing ?

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-- Original Message --
From: "Mark Hanson via EV" 
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Cc: "Mark Hanson" 
Sent: 19-Mar-21 7:32:41 AM
Subject: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools in our 
house

>Thanks Folks for helping me make my decision. The Ford Escape PHEV seems like 
>it’s made of Unobtanium anyway (factory Covid shutdowns,layoffs).  Maybe 
>there’s a reason Ford’s stock remains in the single digits and Tesla $300+.  
>I’ll pick up the Blue Tesla Y Saturday In Richmond, since I’m 65, paid from my 
>IRA so no payments $52k, 4 wheel drive 316 mile range.  We’re no longer fossil 
>fools now with a Leaf, Bolt and a Tesla. I’m also building a Tesla Coil that 
>throws 5’ lightning bolts, 6.0 kit from Eastern voltage research.com.
>The Tesla Y looks like it has a steep learning curve compared to the Bolt. Had 
>to sign up last night for a Tesla account and download an app on my iPhone to 
>access the car. It looks like you’re Information tracked For charging 
>convenience (automatically charges credit card without using at supercharger 
>stations).  The controls are not in the usual places and a lot is done through 
>the laptop size touchscreen.  Probably why you don’t see them as Hertz etc 
>rentals. I’ll have to dig into the wire harness to set up a trailer hitch from 
>Etrailers.com To tow the boat.  Say where’s the parking brake to set when I 
>launch the ski boat at the boat ramp?  It would be a bummer to submerge a $52k 
>car.
>One big reason for buying the Tesla Y is the self driving capability as we get 
>older and decrepit, so we don’t get kicked out of our house to an old fart 
>home like the nieghbors did when they couldn’t drive.  Of course you’ll still 
>have to have the cognition to operate this fancy car...
>Have a renewable energy day
>Mark
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools in our house

2021-03-19 Thread paul dove via EV 
No parking brake. It has a break paw in the gear box that engages when in park. 


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On Friday, March 19, 2021, 9:32 AM, Mark Hanson via EV  
wrote:

Thanks Folks for helping me make my decision. The Ford Escape PHEV seems like 
it’s made of Unobtanium anyway (factory Covid shutdowns,layoffs).  Maybe 
there’s a reason Ford’s stock remains in the single digits and Tesla $300+.  
I’ll pick up the Blue Tesla Y Saturday In Richmond, since I’m 65, paid from my 
IRA so no payments $52k, 4 wheel drive 316 mile range.  We’re no longer fossil 
fools now with a Leaf, Bolt and a Tesla. I’m also building a Tesla Coil that 
throws 5’ lightning bolts, 6.0 kit from Eastern voltage research.com.  
The Tesla Y looks like it has a steep learning curve compared to the Bolt. Had 
to sign up last night for a Tesla account and download an app on my iPhone to 
access the car. It looks like you’re Information tracked For charging 
convenience (automatically charges credit card without using at supercharger 
stations).  The controls are not in the usual places and a lot is done through 
the laptop size touchscreen.  Probably why you don’t see them as Hertz etc 
rentals. I’ll have to dig into the wire harness to set up a trailer hitch from 
Etrailers.com To tow the boat.  Say where’s the parking brake to set when I 
launch the ski boat at the boat ramp?  It would be a bummer to submerge a $52k 
car.  
One big reason for buying the Tesla Y is the self driving capability as we get 
older and decrepit, so we don’t get kicked out of our house to an old fart home 
like the nieghbors did when they couldn’t drive.  Of course you’ll still have 
to have the cognition to operate this fancy car...
Have a renewable energy day 
Mark

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Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools in our house

2021-03-19 Thread Mr. Sharkey via EV 

> where's the parking brake to set when
> I launch the ski boat at the boat ramp?

You didn't spring for the $25k submersible option? I hear it's self-navigating.


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Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools in our house

2021-03-19 Thread Peri Hartman via EV 
Curious. What is your final price including dest fee, taxes, and 
licensing ?


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From: "Mark Hanson via EV" 
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Cc: "Mark Hanson" 
Sent: 19-Mar-21 7:32:41 AM
Subject: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools in our 
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Thanks Folks for helping me make my decision. The Ford Escape PHEV seems like 
it’s made of Unobtanium anyway (factory Covid shutdowns,layoffs).  Maybe 
there’s a reason Ford’s stock remains in the single digits and Tesla $300+.  
I’ll pick up the Blue Tesla Y Saturday In Richmond, since I’m 65, paid from my 
IRA so no payments $52k, 4 wheel drive 316 mile range.  We’re no longer fossil 
fools now with a Leaf, Bolt and a Tesla. I’m also building a Tesla Coil that 
throws 5’ lightning bolts, 6.0 kit from Eastern voltage research.com.
The Tesla Y looks like it has a steep learning curve compared to the Bolt. Had 
to sign up last night for a Tesla account and download an app on my iPhone to 
access the car. It looks like you’re Information tracked For charging 
convenience (automatically charges credit card without using at supercharger 
stations).  The controls are not in the usual places and a lot is done through 
the laptop size touchscreen.  Probably why you don’t see them as Hertz etc 
rentals. I’ll have to dig into the wire harness to set up a trailer hitch from 
Etrailers.com To tow the boat.  Say where’s the parking brake to set when I 
launch the ski boat at the boat ramp?  It would be a bummer to submerge a $52k 
car.
One big reason for buying the Tesla Y is the self driving capability as we get 
older and decrepit, so we don’t get kicked out of our house to an old fart home 
like the nieghbors did when they couldn’t drive.  Of course you’ll still have 
to have the cognition to operate this fancy car...
Have a renewable energy day
Mark

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