Re: [EVDL] Leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

[Cor van de Water via EV]

I think they use the same glue that is used to attach the windshield
to the frame of the car, some sort of Urethane, like DOW-U-428 or
similar. At least that it what it looked like and how difficult it was
to cut. Only by putting a *lot* of tension on it (read: a pry bar in
the cut to force the enclosure apart) and a sharp break-off knife
cutting the glue right next to the pry bar, was I able to *cut* the
2013+ packs open. This often distorts the top lid, so not recommended
when you'd need to re-close it.
But almost always I was just harvesting the modules, to be put into a
2011/12 pack that is entirely *bolted* closed.
Nissan wanted to have some protection against opening with standard
tools, so the service disconnect is (on those packs) bolted to the top
lid with security Torx.
So yeah, it is not trivial to inspect the inside of a 2013+ pack. Not
sure how a dealer services such a battery, probably a whole day's of
work for just replacing one of more modules in a pack, so I can see
that they really want to avoid working on a pack.

I don't know if the official Nissan safety precautions still double
the man-hour costs by including a second person standing with a rope
in hand, tied from a distance to the mechanic working on the pack,
ready to yank his twitching body away from the danger after touching
the wrong bits.
(and yes, that is said as mocking humor - I am EE and I always work on
the Leaf packs with steel tools and bare hands, the only reason I
never received a shock is because I am aware of what I am doing at all
times or I would not be working on them *and* I tend to verify
isolation using my multimeter. I absolutely recommend against this
practice for everyone not fully aware of the dangers of HV, but this
is what I am comfortable with. Don't do this at home. Stunts performed
by unprofessional actors or something to that effect.)
Cor.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 6:07 PM (-Phil-) via EV  wrote:
>
> FYI:  I have opened the 60kWh LEAF packs, it can be done with a vibrating
> multitool blade.   Much easier than a Tesla pack!
>
>
> (Picture link: http://ingineerix.com/pic/?leaf60kwh )
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:49 PM EV List Lackey via EV 
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> > On 11 Apr 2022 at 17:17, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
> >
> > > since the [Leaf battery] enclosure can't be opened (glued shut) ...
> >
> > Does that mean that the newer Leaf batteries can't be field-serviced, but
> > must be exchanged for complete new or rebuilt batteries?
> >
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Re: [EVDL] Leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

[Cor van de Water via EV]

Since I know how far the bottom enclosure extends up inside the lip of
the top lid, I tend to get the fastest (and loudest) results in
opening a glued pack using an angle grinder.
I once did this while the battery was sitting in the bed of my
electric truck (1994 US Electricar, factory converted Chevy S10) and
the hot steel sparks are now permanently embedded into the back cab
window, apparently glass melts from sprayed yellow-hot steel sparks...
Just FYI.
Cor.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 6:17 PM Jay Summet via EV  wrote:
>
> I used pry-bars and screwdrivers & putty knifes on a 2013 leaf battery
> that was glued together. Now that I know what is inside (and how to not
> hit it), I'd use an air chisel.
>
> Jay
>
> On 4/11/22 21:01, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
> > FYI:  I have opened the 60kWh LEAF packs, it can be done with a vibrating
> > multitool blade.   Much easier than a Tesla pack!
> >
> >
> > (Picture link: http://ingineerix.com/pic/?leaf60kwh )
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:49 PM EV List Lackey via EV 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 11 Apr 2022 at 17:17, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
> >>
> >>> since the [Leaf battery] enclosure can't be opened (glued shut) ...
> >>
> >> Does that mean that the newer Leaf batteries can't be field-serviced, but
> >> must be exchanged for complete new or rebuilt batteries?
> >>
> >> David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
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Re: [EVDL] Leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

[(-Phil-) via EV]

You need a really thin blade, you just want to cut the adhesive, not the
metal.  I used one of these:
https://amzn.to/3E1I6Wm

With a blade like this: https://amzn.to/373V75P

The tool oscillates really fast and slices through the adhesive like
butter.  You just run it down the side.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 6:17 PM Jay Summet via EV  wrote:

> I used pry-bars and screwdrivers & putty knifes on a 2013 leaf battery
> that was glued together. Now that I know what is inside (and how to not
> hit it), I'd use an air chisel.
>
> Jay
>
> On 4/11/22 21:01, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
> > FYI:  I have opened the 60kWh LEAF packs, it can be done with a vibrating
> > multitool blade.   Much easier than a Tesla pack!
> >
> >
> > (Picture link: http://ingineerix.com/pic/?leaf60kwh )
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:49 PM EV List Lackey via EV  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 11 Apr 2022 at 17:17, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
> >>
> >>> since the [Leaf battery] enclosure can't be opened (glued shut) ...
> >>
> >> Does that mean that the newer Leaf batteries can't be field-serviced,
> but
> >> must be exchanged for complete new or rebuilt batteries?
> >>
> >> David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
> >>
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> >>   a trilogy of Chinese curses that continues "May you come to the
> >>   attention of those in authority," and finishes with "May the
> >>   gods give you everything you ask for."  I have no idea about
> >>   its authenticity.
> >>
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Re: [EVDL] Leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

[Jay Summet via EV]

I used pry-bars and screwdrivers & putty knifes on a 2013 leaf battery 
that was glued together. Now that I know what is inside (and how to not 
hit it), I'd use an air chisel.


Jay

On 4/11/22 21:01, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:

FYI:  I have opened the 60kWh LEAF packs, it can be done with a vibrating
multitool blade.   Much easier than a Tesla pack!


(Picture link: http://ingineerix.com/pic/?leaf60kwh )


On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:49 PM EV List Lackey via EV 
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On 11 Apr 2022 at 17:17, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:


since the [Leaf battery] enclosure can't be opened (glued shut) ...


Does that mean that the newer Leaf batteries can't be field-serviced, but
must be exchanged for complete new or rebuilt batteries?

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

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Re: [EVDL] Leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

[(-Phil-) via EV]

FYI:  I have opened the 60kWh LEAF packs, it can be done with a vibrating
multitool blade.   Much easier than a Tesla pack!


(Picture link: http://ingineerix.com/pic/?leaf60kwh )


On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:49 PM EV List Lackey via EV 
wrote:

> On 11 Apr 2022 at 17:17, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
>
> > since the [Leaf battery] enclosure can't be opened (glued shut) ...
>
> Does that mean that the newer Leaf batteries can't be field-serviced, but
> must be exchanged for complete new or rebuilt batteries?
>
> David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
>
> To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it.  Use my
> offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt
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>  attention of those in authority," and finishes with "May the
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Re: [EVDL] Leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

[EV List Lackey via EV]

On 11 Apr 2022 at 17:17, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:

> since the [Leaf battery] enclosure can't be opened (glued shut) ...

Does that mean that the newer Leaf batteries can't be field-serviced, but 
must be exchanged for complete new or rebuilt batteries?

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it.  Use my 
offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = 
 The phrase "May you live in interesting times" is the lowest in 
 a trilogy of Chinese curses that continues "May you come to the 
 attention of those in authority," and finishes with "May the 
 gods give you everything you ask for."  I have no idea about 
 its authenticity.  

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Re: [EVDL] Leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

[Cor van de Water via EV]

Availability of 62kWh packs is extremely limited, because all are
takeouts from Salvage Leafs and since I believe this pack is only
available since 2018, there is a finite number and the cars are still
going for large sums in salvage sales.
I wanted for a langer time to upgrade an older Leaf, both as a
challenge and as a way to get a long range EV for less money. I
already created a longish (100 mi) truck with 2 parallel (used) Leaf
packs some 5 years ago but the newer Leaf packs are not as easy to
reconfigure for use in a different form factor, so I was more or less
stuck with a Leaf to upgrade.
Originally the previous owner of this pack (who bought it from a
company selling used packs) was asking 11k for it but eventually
(after quite some patience) they agreed to a better deal. Part of it
was that the pack was damaged in that the shell was torn and thus
there was a risk of water intrusion and damage to the pack, which
seems not have affected the pack as far as I can tell, but since the
enclosure can't be opened (glued shut), I can only judge by its
behavior.
I did repair the cuts and tears to avoid getting water intrusion while using it.
I also arranged to get a battery plug from a 2013+ Leaf to plug into
the new pack, because 2011/12 battery control plugs are different.
I did not buy the cap to close off the second High Voltage socket, but
managed to close it with the same solution I used to repair the
damaged enclosure.
I did buy longer (metric) bolts to mount the taller pack.
I did not bother with new plastic belly pans or the two brackets to
mount above the rear axle. Maybe later I will ask a friend to weld an
extension to those two brackets and bolt those to the mounting points
in the back of the pack.
The most critical part of the upgrade is a CAN bridge, which gets
inserted between the car and the CAN bus to the battery (in the
battery control wire loom) and which translates the communication
between car and battery, allowing the car to see the extra capacity
and properly talk to the new battery without going into the limp mode
when it does not recognise the battery identity. I got mine from Dala
in Finland, but there is EVsEnhanced and even local guys who import in
larger quantities to get the cost down.
Since I am monthly Patreon supporter of Dala, I got discount on the
CAN bridge from him.
Note that all CAN bridge hardware is essentially identical, I believe
it is designed by Muxsan, who does Leaf upgrades in Delft in The
Netherlands. It is where my Alma Mater is, so I am proud that he is
doing this, even though I did not interact with him directly.

Concluding - with a cheap older Leaf that has a deteriorated pack
(mine showed 22 mi range fully charged) that could be had well below
$3k (prices have changed since the oil price spike), the 62kWh pack
(40kWh should be several thousand cheaper) and the extra acessories, I
have a ~250mi 10 year old Leaf for under $12k with several hours of
hunting info and a day of actual wrenching.

Hope this gives an idea,
Cor.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 4:37 PM Bob Bath via EV  wrote:
>
> I paid 12.5 k on the west coast.
> Nissan will not do it.
> Requires suspension upgrade. 62 kWh pack is heavier.
>
> Sincerely,
> Bob Bath
> 541.761.0838
>
> Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 56 y.o. 
> vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not 
> cluelessness.
>
>
> > On Apr 11, 2022, at 4:26 PM, mark hanson via EV  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Cor etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > How much $$ does it cost for a 62KWH?  I've got a 2013 Leaf, just 1 bar down
> > on the battery capacity meter though, about 70 miles instead of 90ish when
> > it was a spring chicken.  I'm in the Roanoke, VA area, would I have to go to
> > the stealership?  Would Nissan even do it?  Probably would just want to sell
> > a new Leaf.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Cor van de Water 
> >
> > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List 
> >
> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw
> >
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
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> >
> >
> > Oh and to answer the charging question: the car indicates that it will take
> > indeed something like 20 hours to fully charge from empty.
> >
> > That is why I did get a Leaf with DC Fast Charge.
> >
> > Cor.
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 2:32 AM Cor van de Water 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >
> >> I did the upgrade of a 2012 Leaf with 62kWh pack a few weeks ago.
> >
> >> You need a CAN bridge and a couple longer bolts due to the pack being
> >
> >> 40mm t

Re: [EVDL] Leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

[Bob Bath via EV]

I paid 12.5 k on the west coast. 
Nissan will not do it. 
Requires suspension upgrade. 62 kWh pack is heavier. 

Sincerely, 
Bob Bath
541.761.0838

Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 56 y.o. 
vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not 
cluelessness. 


> On Apr 11, 2022, at 4:26 PM, mark hanson via EV  wrote:
> 
> Hi Cor etc.
> 
> 
> 
> How much $$ does it cost for a 62KWH?  I've got a 2013 Leaf, just 1 bar down
> on the battery capacity meter though, about 70 miles instead of 90ish when
> it was a spring chicken.  I'm in the Roanoke, VA area, would I have to go to
> the stealership?  Would Nissan even do it?  Probably would just want to sell
> a new Leaf.
> 
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Mark 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Cor van de Water 
> 
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List 
> 
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw
> 
> Message-ID:
> 
>  
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> 
> 
> Oh and to answer the charging question: the car indicates that it will take
> indeed something like 20 hours to fully charge from empty.
> 
> That is why I did get a Leaf with DC Fast Charge.
> 
> Cor.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 2:32 AM Cor van de Water 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
> 
>> I did the upgrade of a 2012 Leaf with 62kWh pack a few weeks ago.
> 
>> You need a CAN bridge and a couple longer bolts due to the pack being 
> 
>> 40mm taller.
> 
>> I did not put back the 2 belly pan plastic sheets under the battery 
> 
>> box, they no longer fit.
> 
>> I *did* put back the front pan, between front axle and front lip of 
> 
>> the battery, which will also divert wind, sand and moisture away from 
> 
>> the battery.
> 
>> Once you have the pack installed, you must charge fully to max to let 
> 
>> the CAN bridge and the car learn the new capacity.
> 
>> I did not (yet) modify any suspension to carry the increased weight, 
> 
>> it just sits a lil lower.
> 
>> Hope this helps!
> 
>> Cor.
> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Have a renewable energy day,
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> 
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: [EVDL] leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

[Cor van de Water via EV]

Oh and to answer the charging question: the car indicates that it will
take indeed something like 20 hours to fully charge from empty.
That is why I did get a Leaf with DC Fast Charge.
Cor.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 2:32 AM Cor van de Water
 wrote:
>
> I did the upgrade of a 2012 Leaf with 62kWh pack a few weeks ago.
> You need a CAN bridge and a couple longer bolts due to the pack being
> 40mm taller.
> I did not put back the 2 belly pan plastic sheets under the battery
> box, they no longer fit.
> I *did* put back the front pan, between front axle and front lip of
> the battery, which will also divert wind, sand and moisture away from
> the battery.
> Once you have the pack installed, you must charge fully to max to let
> the CAN bridge and the car learn the new capacity.
> I did not (yet) modify any suspension to carry the increased weight,
> it just sits a lil lower.
> Hope this helps!
> Cor.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 5:27 PM Jay Summet via EV  wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like your Leaf has a 6.6 kw charger (27.5 amps at 240 volts, or
> > 30amps at 220v) as opposed to the slower 3.3 kW charger.
> >
> > 62kwh / 6.6kh = 9.3 hours (If you are able to charge at the full rate
> > the whole time, typically it starts to taper off around 85-90% charged.)
> >
> > [Of course, the entire 62 kWh is not completely available to the
> > user...they keep buffers at both the top and bottom.]
> >
> > Jay
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/10/22 12:50, Bob Bath via EV wrote:
> > > I charge a 2013 LEAF 62 kWh upgrade with a J1772. Depleted, it’s about 5 
> > > hrs. (32A, 220V), FWIW.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Bob Bath
> > > 541.761.0838
> > >
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Re: [EVDL] leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

[Cor van de Water via EV]

I did the upgrade of a 2012 Leaf with 62kWh pack a few weeks ago.
You need a CAN bridge and a couple longer bolts due to the pack being
40mm taller.
I did not put back the 2 belly pan plastic sheets under the battery
box, they no longer fit.
I *did* put back the front pan, between front axle and front lip of
the battery, which will also divert wind, sand and moisture away from
the battery.
Once you have the pack installed, you must charge fully to max to let
the CAN bridge and the car learn the new capacity.
I did not (yet) modify any suspension to carry the increased weight,
it just sits a lil lower.
Hope this helps!
Cor.


On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 5:27 PM Jay Summet via EV  wrote:
>
> Sounds like your Leaf has a 6.6 kw charger (27.5 amps at 240 volts, or
> 30amps at 220v) as opposed to the slower 3.3 kW charger.
>
> 62kwh / 6.6kh = 9.3 hours (If you are able to charge at the full rate
> the whole time, typically it starts to taper off around 85-90% charged.)
>
> [Of course, the entire 62 kWh is not completely available to the
> user...they keep buffers at both the top and bottom.]
>
> Jay
>
>
>
> On 4/10/22 12:50, Bob Bath via EV wrote:
> > I charge a 2013 LEAF 62 kWh upgrade with a J1772. Depleted, it’s about 5 
> > hrs. (32A, 220V), FWIW.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Bob Bath
> > 541.761.0838
> >
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Re: [EVDL] leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

[Jay Summet via EV]

Sounds like your Leaf has a 6.6 kw charger (27.5 amps at 240 volts, or 
30amps at 220v) as opposed to the slower 3.3 kW charger.


62kwh / 6.6kh = 9.3 hours (If you are able to charge at the full rate 
the whole time, typically it starts to taper off around 85-90% charged.)


[Of course, the entire 62 kWh is not completely available to the 
user...they keep buffers at both the top and bottom.]


Jay



On 4/10/22 12:50, Bob Bath via EV wrote:

I charge a 2013 LEAF 62 kWh upgrade with a J1772. Depleted, it’s about 5 hrs. 
(32A, 220V), FWIW.

Sincerely,
Bob Bath
541.761.0838


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Re: [EVDL] leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

[Bob Bath via EV]

I charge a 2013 LEAF 62 kWh upgrade with a J1772. Depleted, it’s about 5 hrs. 
(32A, 220V), FWIW. 

Sincerely, 
Bob Bath
541.761.0838

Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 56 y.o. 
vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not 
cluelessness. 


> On Apr 9, 2022, at 4:58 PM, Jay Summet via EV  wrote:
> 
> It would take longer (62kw / 3.3 = 18.7 hours).
> 
> It is always possible that the on-board charger has a max charging time limit 
> timeout that is reached before then (if it was set to expect to never charge 
> more than 24 kwh) but I haven't heard anything about that.
> 
> The DC fast charger should charge at the same rate as before (but will also 
> take 3x longer to charge if you triple the battery capacity.)
> 
> Swapping a 62kwh battery into a car that used to have a 24 kWh pack has been 
> done, but not by a lot of people, so there is a posibility of something in 
> the vehicle not expecting to have to charge for as long as it would take, but 
> I suspect I would have heard about that by now.
> 
> Jay
> 
>> On 4/9/22 15:24, redscooter via EV wrote:
>>  I have a 2012 leaf with  24 kw and want to upgrade to 60kw battery  I have 
>> the slower j7717 3kw charger. some say there ncharging problems wiht the 60 
>> kw , any one know hwy I do have the level 3 port .
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Re: [EVDL] leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

[Jay Summet via EV]

It would take longer (62kw / 3.3 = 18.7 hours).

It is always possible that the on-board charger has a max charging time 
limit timeout that is reached before then (if it was set to expect to 
never charge more than 24 kwh) but I haven't heard anything about that.


The DC fast charger should charge at the same rate as before (but will 
also take 3x longer to charge if you triple the battery capacity.)


Swapping a 62kwh battery into a car that used to have a 24 kWh pack has 
been done, but not by a lot of people, so there is a posibility of 
something in the vehicle not expecting to have to charge for as long as 
it would take, but I suspect I would have heard about that by now.


Jay

On 4/9/22 15:24, redscooter via EV wrote:
  I have a 2012 leaf with  24 kw and want to upgrade to 60kw battery  I 
have the slower j7717 3kw charger. some say there ncharging problems 
wiht the 60 kw , any one know hwy I do have the level 3 port .

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