Re: [Evangelism] WPD Web2.0 Champion needed
Hi Gerry, On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 07:15 -0500, Gerry Kirk wrote: Ok thanks Christian for your suggestions. Both helpful for now and for establishing an ongoing effort to build an online community. All, I've made a list of things to do - WPD list Amazing what you can get done with an extra hour time change (not like I can sleep more with little kids in the house). Nate, there is a task there for you. Question - what content do we have for posting? Is the idea to use the media release? What do people think about live streaming some of the events? Do we have a list of local WPD organizer contacts? I like Christian's idea to use a url like worldploneday.org. I could buy it, donate it to the PF and have it autoforward to the WPD page on plone.org. Sound good? What about collecting tagged Flickr photos? Do we have a place where we can aggregate activity happening on the web? I could create a PageFlakes page which would accomplish this. Other ideas? I sent an email to the list a little while back with a link[1] to a Yahoo Pipes feed for WPD 2008. It was my first attempt at setting 1 up so I'm unsure if it's working correctly so feel free to modify it to suck in some more content (currently referencing flickr, bloglines, youtube, delicious). Thanks, Tim [1] http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=7uO8l_Oc3RGCrANR1L3fcQ - Gerry On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Christian Scholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I wanted to be somewhat more active with this here but workload is a bit high at the moment. But here are my remarks. So the thing with all this if IMHO that you need to build a web2.0 community before such events, not with such events. Basically it means things like putting a Follow Plone on twitter button and a link to a Facebook group on the plone.org homepage. Moreover it might be helpful to also offer a link to subscribe to news via email (also news should be more visible). Can be done with Feedburner or other tools (but should produce statistics so we know what is working and what is not). And to those who say that putting this web2.0 crap on the homepage makes no sense because tomorrow xyz instead of abc is the cool thing, just tell that then we switch to xyz ;-) You simply have to monitor this space to see where you reach people best. Of course also the logo on the homepage should IMHO be updated ASAP. As for WPD you said most things already, I would add: - create a new twitter account for WPD, put in the URL and some description - post some updates on WPD and start following people. You might not want to add too many people at once though as this looks like spamming. Start with the Plone community and their followers to follow, then reach out (e.g. use Scoble's followers or something like that ;-) ) - put a link to the FB event and the twitter button on the homepage (create some nice buttons maybe) - on FB invite as many people as possible to the event (spamming seems to be quite normal there ;-) ). - tell your twitter followers about the FB event and all the other stuff once it's there. It's probably good to make a checklist of what to announce where when you have some news to spread. - tell the community to reach out to bloggers individually, prepare some blogger compatible press release. Everybody who blogs might know that the normal press release blurb is not really stuff easily to copy and paste you might want to have some sort of pre-defined blog post you spread around. In general it should be as easy as possible for anybody to spread the news: - make a list what people can do in a subsection of WPD like - all the sites we are active in and where people can invite their own contacts to. - prepared blog posts/news items for people to reblog/retweet - call for spreading tweets from the WPD account. - contacts of people whom they can ask for help Here's something more: Ask participants in the event to setup some ustream-based streaming of the event. It would be great to somehow show off those streams which are active at some point in time. Maybe also a plain listing of all the events would be nice to show how many there are. Registering worldploneday.org
Re: [Evangelism] WPD Web2.0 Champion needed
Hi! I wanted to be somewhat more active with this here but workload is a bit high at the moment. But here are my remarks. So the thing with all this if IMHO that you need to build a web2.0 community before such events, not with such events. Basically it means things like putting a Follow Plone on twitter button and a link to a Facebook group on the plone.org homepage. Moreover it might be helpful to also offer a link to subscribe to news via email (also news should be more visible). Can be done with Feedburner or other tools (but should produce statistics so we know what is working and what is not). And to those who say that putting this web2.0 crap on the homepage makes no sense because tomorrow xyz instead of abc is the cool thing, just tell that then we switch to xyz ;-) You simply have to monitor this space to see where you reach people best. Of course also the logo on the homepage should IMHO be updated ASAP. As for WPD you said most things already, I would add: - create a new twitter account for WPD, put in the URL and some description - post some updates on WPD and start following people. You might not want to add too many people at once though as this looks like spamming. Start with the Plone community and their followers to follow, then reach out (e.g. use Scoble's followers or something like that ;-) ) - put a link to the FB event and the twitter button on the homepage (create some nice buttons maybe) - on FB invite as many people as possible to the event (spamming seems to be quite normal there ;-) ). - tell your twitter followers about the FB event and all the other stuff once it's there. It's probably good to make a checklist of what to announce where when you have some news to spread. - tell the community to reach out to bloggers individually, prepare some blogger compatible press release. Everybody who blogs might know that the normal press release blurb is not really stuff easily to copy and paste you might want to have some sort of pre-defined blog post you spread around. In general it should be as easy as possible for anybody to spread the news: - make a list what people can do in a subsection of WPD like - all the sites we are active in and where people can invite their own contacts to. - prepared blog posts/news items for people to reblog/retweet - call for spreading tweets from the WPD account. - contacts of people whom they can ask for help Here's something more: Ask participants in the event to setup some ustream-based streaming of the event. It would be great to somehow show off those streams which are active at some point in time. Maybe also a plain listing of all the events would be nice to show how many there are. Registering worldploneday.org might also make sense and can stay there for the years to come (we repeat this, right? ;-) ). In general it would be nice to have more numbers, esp. such which do not compare it directly with other CMSes because that's not always fair and might not say anything. Rather it would be nice to know more about website statistics, downloads, contributor growth over the years, commits over the years, distribution of the community around the world, posting frequencies on the main mailing list over time etc. This always makes nice slides depending on how you present it (I once saw a presentation about drupal which was kinda like that and was quite well done). It might also make sense to try to get evangelism a bit more active maybe by making a weekly skype call or something like that. Might help to keep people motivated. I guess some chair of that group would be needed (Nate, are you something like that? :-) ). And again, statistics is important. We should know afterwards which channel worked best etc. This includes growth of twitter users, FB group, email subscriptions and so on. Ok, that are my quick thoughts on that. Hope they help! :-) -- Christian PS: Send greetings to Chris Brogan from me, Nate! :-) (not sure he still remembers me though) In any case Chris should know more about this than I do, the PF should hire him ;-) Nate Aune wrote: I can help with this. great! if you hadn't volunteered, i was going to volunteer you anyways. ;) write a blog post which will appear on Planet Plone outlining a list of ways people can help spread the word. post to FB profile don't forget to post to the Plone group on LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2300 Also, event listing sites such as Eventful.com, Upcoming.org and Zvents.com. You can use http://gigblastr.com to bulk post events to the first two, Twitter, and we're working on Facebook posting. follow my own advice in 1) I can post to Digg, have never posted to Slashdot Does Plone have a fan page in Facebook? I can't seem to figure out how to search for one. It wasn't easy to find. The only way I could locate it was by browsing. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2247154032 Nate, don't you have a list of media contacts? Does anyone
Re: [Evangelism] WPD Web2.0 Champion needed
Hi Roberto, I can help with this. I will: 1. write a blog post which will appear on Planet Plone outlining a list of ways people can help spread the word. 1. post to FB profile 2. post link on Twitter 3. write on blog 4. Delicious 5. etc 2. follow my own advice in 1) 3. I can post to Digg, have never posted to Slashdot Does Plone have a fan page in Facebook? I can't seem to figure out how to search for one. Nate, don't you have a list of media contacts? Does anyone have connections with prominent bloggers? Maybe we can try blogs like TechCrunch. Does anyone have a detailed listing of all the things we should do? - Gerry On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Roberto Allende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello If you are not organizing any wpd event or just have some minutes and want to contribute with WPD, here is your chance: We need *urgently* a WPD Web 2.0 spreader. The task consist on spreading wpd as much as possible in the www, that includes adding news in sites like digg, delicious, twitter, slashdot and many others. Once the news is added you have write here asking the community join and support it. The material is ready: We have a press release: http://plone.org/news/wpd-press-release And the official WPD site is: http://plone.org/wpd If you cannot do all the job, but you want to take care doing it in one site, just do it! I strongly believe we've a very successful event already, we just need to let the world know! Kind Regards r. -- http://robertoallende.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- blog: http://gerrykirk.net daily musings at http://twitter.com/gerrykirk ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] WPD Web2.0 Champion needed
Ah ok, found the Plone FB page. :) Is there a tag for pics, vids, blog posts, tweets, etc? If not, what about worldploneday ? - Gerry On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Gerry Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Roberto, I can help with this. I will: 1. write a blog post which will appear on Planet Plone outlining a list of ways people can help spread the word. 1. post to FB profile 2. post link on Twitter 3. write on blog 4. Delicious 5. etc 2. follow my own advice in 1) 3. I can post to Digg, have never posted to Slashdot Does Plone have a fan page in Facebook? I can't seem to figure out how to search for one. Nate, don't you have a list of media contacts? Does anyone have connections with prominent bloggers? Maybe we can try blogs like TechCrunch. Does anyone have a detailed listing of all the things we should do? - Gerry On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Roberto Allende [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hello If you are not organizing any wpd event or just have some minutes and want to contribute with WPD, here is your chance: We need *urgently* a WPD Web 2.0 spreader. The task consist on spreading wpd as much as possible in the www, that includes adding news in sites like digg, delicious, twitter, slashdot and many others. Once the news is added you have write here asking the community join and support it. The material is ready: We have a press release: http://plone.org/news/wpd-press-release And the official WPD site is: http://plone.org/wpd If you cannot do all the job, but you want to take care doing it in one site, just do it! I strongly believe we've a very successful event already, we just need to let the world know! Kind Regards r. -- http://robertoallende.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- blog: http://gerrykirk.net daily musings at http://twitter.com/gerrykirk -- blog: http://gerrykirk.net daily musings at http://twitter.com/gerrykirk ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] WPD Web2.0 Champion needed
I can help with this. great! if you hadn't volunteered, i was going to volunteer you anyways. ;) write a blog post which will appear on Planet Plone outlining a list of ways people can help spread the word. post to FB profile don't forget to post to the Plone group on LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2300 Also, event listing sites such as Eventful.com, Upcoming.org and Zvents.com. You can use http://gigblastr.com to bulk post events to the first two, Twitter, and we're working on Facebook posting. follow my own advice in 1) I can post to Digg, have never posted to Slashdot Does Plone have a fan page in Facebook? I can't seem to figure out how to search for one. It wasn't easy to find. The only way I could locate it was by browsing. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2247154032 Nate, don't you have a list of media contacts? Does anyone have connections with prominent bloggers? Maybe we can try blogs like TechCrunch. I met Michael Arrington once but I don't think he remembers me. I know Chris Brogan and could see if he wouldn't mind plugging it on his blog and/or twitter network. Does anyone have a detailed listing of all the things we should do? No, but this is a great opportunity to make one up. :) I'm cc'ing MrTopf as he has blogged about how to promote Plone the Web 2.0 way and even given a talk about it. http://dev.comlounge.net/conference/my-presentation-at-the-plone-conference-2007/ Nate On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Roberto Allende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello If you are not organizing any wpd event or just have some minutes and want to contribute with WPD, here is your chance: We need *urgently* a WPD Web 2.0 spreader. The task consist on spreading wpd as much as possible in the www, that includes adding news in sites like digg, delicious, twitter, slashdot and many others. Once the news is added you have write here asking the community join and support it. The material is ready: We have a press release: http://plone.org/news/wpd-press-release And the official WPD site is: http://plone.org/wpd If you cannot do all the job, but you want to take care doing it in one site, just do it! I strongly believe we've a very successful event already, we just need to let the world know! Kind Regards r. -- http://robertoallende.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- blog: http://gerrykirk.net daily musings at http://twitter.com/gerrykirk ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] WPD Web2.0 Champion needed
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 20:53 -0400, Gerry Kirk wrote: Ah ok, found the Plone FB page. :) Is there a tag for pics, vids, blog posts, tweets, etc? If not, what about worldploneday ? The official tag is 'worldploneday2008'. Thanks, Tim - Gerry On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Gerry Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Roberto, I can help with this. I will: 1. write a blog post which will appear on Planet Plone outlining a list of ways people can help spread the word. 1. post to FB profile 2. post link on Twitter 3. write on blog 4. Delicious 5. etc 2. follow my own advice in 1) 3. I can post to Digg, have never posted to Slashdot Does Plone have a fan page in Facebook? I can't seem to figure out how to search for one. Nate, don't you have a list of media contacts? Does anyone have connections with prominent bloggers? Maybe we can try blogs like TechCrunch. Does anyone have a detailed listing of all the things we should do? - Gerry On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Roberto Allende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello If you are not organizing any wpd event or just have some minutes and want to contribute with WPD, here is your chance: We need *urgently* a WPD Web 2.0 spreader. The task consist on spreading wpd as much as possible in the www, that includes adding news in sites like digg, delicious, twitter, slashdot and many others. Once the news is added you have write here asking the community join and support it. The material is ready: We have a press release: http://plone.org/news/wpd-press-release And the official WPD site is: http://plone.org/wpd If you cannot do all the job, but you want to take care doing it in one site, just do it! I strongly believe we've a very successful event already, we just need to let the world know! Kind Regards r. -- http://robertoallende.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- blog: http://gerrykirk.net daily musings at http://twitter.com/gerrykirk -- blog: http://gerrykirk.net daily musings at http://twitter.com/gerrykirk ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
