RE: [Evangelism] plone dot com

2009-11-24 Thread Roijen, Bas
+1

There are more open source communities that have this setup.
It would be nice to have a dot com site with a marketing story
That way, those deciding won't get confused with versions of addons or
documentation they don't understand.


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[mailto:evangelism-boun...@lists.plone.org] Namens Dylan Jay
Verzonden: maandag 23 november 2009 6:39
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Onderwerp: [Evangelism] plone dot com

hi,
I know Limi mentioned something about wrestling that domain back but I
just wanted note my observations on something I like about what drupal
has done: giving different messages to different people.
I discovered drupal.com the other day which is a slick marketing type
site emphasising case studies of drupals use. That is probably targeting
those deciding which CMS to use, or media. With the dot org it's more
about engaging with people who will download and "participate" in
opensource. So the dot com and the dot org kind of separate out those
that understand community opensource and those that don't. That's pretty
cool.

For Plone,
- plone dot com (how cool is plone),
- plone.org (how to get involved)
- plone.net (who can I sue/get a solution quickly) would be a great
separation of messages (although I think plone.net could be folded back
into dot org or dot com to increase it's link
juice)


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RE: [Evangelism] Hack Plone! Win a Mac!

2009-11-30 Thread Roijen, Bas
 
Should become something like "Entworfen fur sicherheit"?
Translations will be no problem.
I don't know in what countries translations are a must (never guessed
Germany would be one), but the main goal is to get a clear message
across.


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[mailto:evangelism-boun...@lists.plone.org] Namens Jan Ulrich Hasecke
Verzonden: zondag 29 november 2009 10:31
Aan: Mark A Corum
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Am 28.11.2009 um 20:38 schrieb Mark A Corum:

> +1 on a legitimate slogan like "Secure by Design" or something else
> that reflects the fact.

Although I'd like such a claim, please keep in mind that we need it
translated. English claims are often misunderstood in Germany as recent
studies showed.

juh

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RE: [Evangelism] Strategy focus decisions - Plone-the-product vs. Plone-the-platform - Discovering a blog entry by Paul Everitt from 2008

2009-12-02 Thread Roijen, Bas
We're currently serving about 500GB of data with our intranet.
I only know it's Plone 2.1 with (I believe) ATManagedFile for filesystem 
support and a few other addons.
In a few weeks I have to move it to another server and get it up to Plone 3, so 
then I can see how plone.app.blob will perform.



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[mailto:evangelism-boun...@lists.plone.org] Namens Nate Aune
Verzonden: dinsdag 1 december 2009 18:57
Aan: Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.]
CC: Sally Kleinfeldt; off...@valentinewebsystems.se; evangelism@lists.plone.org
Onderwerp: Re: [Evangelism] Strategy focus decisions - Plone-the-product vs. 
Plone-the-platform - Discovering a blog entry by Paul Everitt from 2008

> b) CMIS:
>  
> http://www.optaros.com/blogs/alfresco-drupal-cmis-integration-availabl
> e

Did you see Sally's blog post on CMIS and Plone?
http://blog.jazkarta.com/2009/10/27/plone-web-services-what-about-cmis/

> 5) Terabyte storage solutions.  Documentum and their DMS-based ilk 
> have handled this for years.  How many large-scale storage Plone case 
> studies are there on plone.net?  Many a time, Plone integrators can't 
> discuss the few successes that may exist here.  Hopefully, this story 
> improves with BLOB storage in Plone 4.

Sasha recently wrote a blog post about large repositories of data being served 
up from Plone using plone.app.blob.
http://valentinewebsystems.com/en/blog/plone-powers-50gb-of-environmental-data

We're currently working on a project to build a digital asset management system 
using Plone, which will be serving terabytes of data.

Nate

> Matt Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On 30 Nov 2009, at 09:18 PM, Dylan Jay  wrote:
>>
>>> These are awesome points. I think unique and challenging reality is 
>>> that plone is both product and a platform but we've been trying 
>>> market both through the same channels which is why the message has 
>>> sometimes been confusing. Eg we say plone is easy to install but in 
>>> reality only in drvrloment mode not production mode so that is 
>>> really a platfom message not a product message.
>>> Drupal delivers drupal the product message via it's dot com site and 
>>> it's platform message via it's dot org site.
>>>
>>> I am also thinking we are better off concentrating on selling plone 
>>> as a platform. Not just because we need more develepers and 
>>> integrators to gain greater momentum but recently I've been 
>>> discovering plone doest sell well as a product.
>>> If someone comes to us (as PretaWeb) and says
>>> A) we need a website that can blah blah then plone is easy to sell.
>>> If a customer comes to us and says
>>> B) we're considering to purchase plone as a cms or intranet it's a 
>>> really hard sell.
>>> This is even though we sell training and support and that both 
>>> solutions would need to be equally customized. Why?
>>> People picking products tend to pick product companies. Makes them 
>>> more comfortable. They feel like they can sue them and that will act 
>>> more to help them to protect the reputation of the product etc. 
>>> Plone has no product company.
>>> I guess this is why open source works better for platforms than products.
>>
>> I'm at a show so only a brief reply now, but just say that CMS Watch 
>> recently recategorised their vendor listings and now split by 
>> platform vs product and by size. IIRC Plone is in the Mid-range 
>> Platform category. Along with Drupal and Typo3. Alfresco is in 
>> Upper-range platform. Joomla and
>> Terminal4 are in Simpler Products.
>>
>> The CMS Watch stand is near us at the show I'll try and get some 
>> feedback on their views as to what went into categorising them.
>>
>> -Matt
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