RE: DNA Wormholes can cause cancer (what!?)

2015-04-07 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
 

 

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Chris,

 

Hi.  It sounds like you might be in computing since you mentioned some 
terms like "reposited" (I've never heard of that in bio!)?  

 

Yeah I write software for a living… and reposited is a pretty common jargon 
(that implicitly abstracts the particular details of whatever repository behind 
the notion of a repository interface).

 

If so, you are very well educated in biology.  Nice job!  Your knowledge of the 
complexity of a cell and of things moving around via motor proteins and the 
cytoskeleton as opposed to diffusion only, etc. are real impressive.  Many of 
the computer and engineering guys I know seem to be allergic to biology 
knowledge.  Although, I admit I know almost nothing about computing either, 
except for stuff from a few simple classes in Pascal, Fortran, etc. a long, 
long time ago.

 

I have long been fascinated with biology – being a biological entity myself J 

 

I'd never heard of that  model where they ran it backwards to find the 
genesis of life, but it sounds pretty neat.  I think it's certainly possible 
that life started in a far away stellar nursery and then came to Earth on a 
comet or something.  Although, I kind of liked that Star Trek (The Next Gen.) 
episode where some ancient race of bald people seeded lots of different oceans 
with their DNA and put a code in their that, once we decipher it, will play a 
video of the bald people talking to us.  I thought that was one of their best 
episodes.  But, the final question is still there.  How did the life originate 
where ever it came from?  I can't rule out anything, but I bet they'll be able 
to someday figure out a chemical mechanism for things to start replicating 
themselves.

 

I think that we are closing in on this and that within a decade or two – if we 
don’t blow ourselves up beforehand – we will be able to do genesis in the lab. 
Already Craig Venter’s group is getting close to creating synthetic life – 
albeit within an existing de-natured cell that’s had its own DNA removed. See: 
http://www.ted.com/talks/craig_venter_is_on_the_verge_of_creating_synthetic_life?language=en

Just read an article today shown that micro-strands of DNA can self-assemble in 
liquid crystals. Quoting from the article: “The new research demonstrates that 
the spontaneous self-assembly of DNA fragments just a few nanometers in length 
into ordered liquid crystal phases has the ability to drive the formation of 
chemical bonds that connect together short DNA chains to form long ones, 
without the aid of biological mechanisms. Liquid crystals are a form of matter 
that has properties between those of conventional liquids and those of a solid 
crystal—a liquid crystal may flow like a liquid, for example, but its molecules 
may be oriented more like a crystal.

"Our observations are suggestive of what may have happened on the early Earth 
when the first DNA-like  <http://phys.org/tags/molecular+fragments/> molecular 
fragments appeared," said Clark.

 <http://phys.org/news/2015-04-hints-spontaneous-primordial-dna.html#jCp> 
http://phys.org/news/2015-04-hints-spontaneous-primordial-dna.html#jCp

 

One big advantage that computing and engineering have over drug discovery 
is that the scientist can design a system he or she wants to make when it's 
code or a chip or something.  But, because everything is so wet, bouncing 
around, cross-reacting and "squishy" in bio, it's hard to design things to work 
just the way you want them.  Cells are always mutating, proteins are always 
moving around and chemicals are always cross-reacting.  I think we'll 
eventually need to combine small mol. drugs and biological drugs with 
nanotechnological devices and tiny molecular computers to cure diseases.  

 

But that is also what makes it so interesting and also unfathomable at times. J

Chris

 

I checked out that article on microbes being passed from generation to 
generation.  It was very interesting; although, it kind of sounded like it was 
passed via an environmental route because the next generation of animals lived 
in the same environment as the previous generation, and the microbes are 
probably all over the environment in the form of feces, shed fur, surfaces, 
animals touching each other, etc.  I'd have to read more about it, but it 
sounded like not quite a direct mechanism of transmission.

 

One more pontification, and I promise I'll stop, but I think some of the 
physics guys could learn from biochemists because biochemists are always 
looking for mechanisms of action for how things work.  But, it seems like the 
physicists are more content to say something works and we have the math to 
describe it.  For instance, I don't think they really know even why positive 

Re: DNA Wormholes can cause cancer (what!?)

2015-04-06 Thread 'Roger' via Everything List
 

> *Subject:* Re: DNA Wormholes can cause cancer (what!?)
>
> Chris,
>

Hi.  It sounds like you might be in computing since you mentioned some 
terms like "reposited" (I've never heard of that in bio!)?  If so, you are 
very well educated in biology.  Nice job!  Your knowledge of the complexity 
of a cell and of things moving around via motor proteins and the 
cytoskeleton as opposed to diffusion only, etc. are real impressive.  Many 
of the computer and engineering guys I know seem to be allergic to biology 
knowledge.  Although, I admit I know almost nothing about computing either, 
except for stuff from a few simple classes in Pascal, Fortran, etc. a long, 
long time ago.

I'd never heard of that  model where they ran it backwards to find the 
genesis of life, but it sounds pretty neat.  I think it's certainly 
possible that life started in a far away stellar nursery and then came to 
Earth on a comet or something.  Although, I kind of liked that Star Trek 
(The Next Gen.) episode where some ancient race of bald people seeded lots 
of different oceans with their DNA and put a code in their that, once we 
decipher it, will play a video of the bald people talking to us.  I thought 
that was one of their best episodes.  But, the final question is still 
there.  How did the life originate where ever it came from?  I can't rule 
out anything, but I bet they'll be able to someday figure out a chemical 
mechanism for things to start replicating themselves.

One big advantage that computing and engineering have over drug 
discovery is that the scientist can design a system he or she wants to make 
when it's code or a chip or something.  But, because everything is so wet, 
bouncing around, cross-reacting and "squishy" in bio, it's hard to design 
things to work just the way you want them.  Cells are always mutating, 
proteins are always moving around and chemicals are always cross-reacting. 
 I think we'll eventually need to combine small mol. drugs and biological 
drugs with nanotechnological devices and tiny molecular computers to cure 
diseases.  

I checked out that article on microbes being passed from generation to 
generation.  It was very interesting; although, it kind of sounded like it 
was passed via an environmental route because the next generation of 
animals lived in the same environment as the previous generation, and the 
microbes are probably all over the environment in the form of feces, shed 
fur, surfaces, animals touching each other, etc.  I'd have to read more 
about it, but it sounded like not quite a direct mechanism of transmission.

One more pontification, and I promise I'll stop, but I think some of 
the physics guys could learn from biochemists because biochemists are 
always looking for mechanisms of action for how things work.  But, it seems 
like the physicists are more content to say something works and we have the 
math to describe it.  For instance, I don't think they really know even why 
positive and negative charges attract or two positive charges repel, do 
they?  I know there are fields of force, and exchange of photons (or other 
force particles for other forces), but how exactly does this lead to 
attraction or repulsion?  I admit I know very little about it, but this 
kind of thing frustrates me when reading popular physics articles.  In 
their defense, though, force particles are much smaller than proteins!

At least, Monday is over!  Have a good week.  

Roger 


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RE: DNA Wormholes can cause cancer (what!?)

2015-04-05 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
 

 

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Chris,

 

Hi.  It is kind of an interesting job in that I can keep up with the latest 
stuff and I do find the idea of organizing scientific information very 
interesting.  But, it can be a little boring sometimes, too.  But, I guess most 
people would say that about their jobs, though.

 

Epigenetics is pretty neat.  When the histones are methylated/demethylated 
and acetylated/deacetylated by various enzymes, this can cause the DNA wrapped 
around them to become less or more compact, which affects how the genes in that 
area are expressed.  

 

You're sure right about their finding more levels of operation than ever 
before.  Since they developed what they call "next generation sequencing" about 
2005 or so, they've been able to find out a lot more levels in all areas.  One 
thing that's kind of neat is that the supposedly junk DNA between genes can 
encode small RNAs that regulate the expression of the genes.  These "microRNAs" 
are really a hot area of research now.  Another big breakthrough was the 
combination of various techniques to make very large scale analysis of proteins 
(proteomics) possible.  So, they're combining gene expression, protein studies, 
epigenetics, etc. to see how it all fits together in the body.  They call that 
systems biology, and it's bringing more progress.  But, there are so many 
interacting molecules inside a single cel, they've got a long way to go.

  

Life seems to use whatever pathways (and combinations of pathways) it can 
leverage in order to transmit – over many layered systems of encoding (even 
within DNA itself) – the complex and dynamically responsive best response. I 
suspect the multi-layered dimension of heredity provides it with greater 
meta-stability than a system, exclusively reposited (comp term for the act of 
being stored within a repository) within a single mechanism.

Have you heard about the computer model they ran in which they used the pretty 
well known well sampled current diversity of life on the planet in combination 
with the also pretty well known rates of mutation for life on earth and using 
these rates (and admittedly extrapolating backward in time based on the 
application of these rates of mutation) they ran the model backwards to 
discover the singularity… the moment of genesis so to speak of life. The answer 
they got was entirely unexpected. Based on all the parameters for their model, 
which were well checked – e.g. current planetary genetic diversity, recursively 
getting applied to a rewinding function based on known rates of mutation. – the 
genesis of earth life, according to this model is some eight billion years ago 
– that being four billion years before our star first formed in its birth 
cloud. 

Raises some interesting speculation as to the origins of life. Maybe life 
really is seeded everywhere in those great stellar nurseries and every newborn 
star (+whirling accretion disk that is not swept away by the energetic wave 
front powered by the star as it lights up) is seeded with icy cometary spores, 
bearing microbial life

Often people think of microbes as miniscule blobs, which of course they also 
are, but the levels and depth of levels of complexity operating within, even a 
single microbe are stunning and hard to grasp and understand all together. I 
really like the systems approach that the wave front of research seems to be 
focusing on. Reductivism is fine, and has yielded impressive results in some 
areas, but somethings are best understood from the dynamic whole-systems 
viewpoint. Even just a single organelle in a cell is amazing molecular 
machinery… take a ribosome for example… or the complex lipid interface of the 
cell wall. The level of nanoscale sophistication in a single microbe is 
impressive. By far most evolution happened before multicellular creatures 
evolved. All multicellular life is the result of a symbiosis of earlier life 
forms (some like the mitochondria seeming like symbionts that took up cellular 
residence, a long time ago, preserving their own DNA). But even just a single 
ribosome is a molecular factory of incredible complexity, where the protein 
folding magic goes on. A ribosome is around 40% RNA by weight and has all kinds 
of different RNA variants doing many different things, interacting with animo 
acids, assembling proteins, QA-ing them and destroying faulty product… a very 
sophisticated muli-step process. It would not surprise me in the least if they 
discover that ribosomes themselves have some kind of run-time RNA based OS – a 
kind of frontline processing unit right there in the protein assembly plant. 

Cells also have very fine scale highly branched networks within their own 
cellu

Re: DNA Wormholes can cause cancer (what!?)

2015-04-05 Thread 'Roger' via Everything List
d.  These changes can be affected 
> by the environment and your own activities (like exercise).   So, your 
> descendants may thank you for exercising and eating right!
>
>  
>
> The only reason I know some stuff about this is that I have kind of a 
> weird job where I read biochem. articles all day and put the new stuff into 
> a database. 
>
>  
>
> See you!
>
>  
>
> Roger 
>
>  
>
>          
>
> 
>
>
> On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 3:08:19 PM UTC-4, cdemorsella wrote:
>
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: everyth...@googlegroups.com [mailto:everyth...@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Russell Standish 
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 1:44 PM 
> To: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List 
> Subject: Re: DNA Wormholes can cause cancer (what!?) 
>
> Of course, this is what Australia's John Mattick has been saying for 
> decades (I heard him talk on this nearly 15 years ago, for instance, and 
> he'd been railing at the establishment sometime before that). 
>
> >> But "wormholes"? Really? Someone in marketing has been given far too 
> liberal a rein. 
>
> They're always on the hunt for that catchy title aren't they; I find them 
> amusing :)   
> Still, in seriousness, it's an interesting idea: that previously 
> overlooked, non-local effects,  naturally operating within an organisms DNA 
> may be playing a more fundamental role in life than previously believed (or 
> even considered to be occurring at all) 
> Chris 
>
> Cheers 
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 05:26:16PM +, 'Chris de Morsella' via 
> Everything List wrote: 
> > [Have been very busy on a new software project and have not had time 
> > to follow and participate on this list... such an active list :). ] 
> > Came across this article and found it interesting also from an 
> > information science point of view -- taking the perspective of DNA 
> > being a fairly dynamic information repository. It seems like the 
> > butterfly effect is operating in DNA... a small difference one place 
> > can result in effects being triggered in very distant DNA locations... 
> > or as the researchers said... kind of like a wormhole.-Chris 
> > 
> > Cancer risk linked to DNA ‘wormholes’ 
> > 
> > February 25, 2015 
> > Single-letter genetic variations within parts of the genome once 
> dismissed as “junk DNA” can increase cancer risk through remote effects on 
> far-off genes, new research by scientists at The Institute of Cancer 
> Research, London shows.The researchers found that DNA sequences within 
> “gene deserts” — so called because they are completely devoid of genes — 
> can regulate gene activity elsewhere by forming DNA loops across relatively 
> large distances.The study helps solve a mystery about how genetic 
> variations in parts of the genome that don’t appear to be doing very much 
> can increase cancer risk.Their study, published in Nature Communications, 
> also has implications for the study of other complex genetic diseases.The 
> researchers developed a technique called Capture Hi-C to investigate 
> long-range physical interactions between stretches of DNA – allowing them 
> to look at how specific areas of chromosomes interact physically in more 
> detail.The researchers assessed 14 regions of DNA that contain 
> single-letter variations previously linked to bowel cancer risk. They 
> detected significant long-range interactions for all 14 regions, confirming 
> their role in gene regulation.“Our new technique shows that genetic 
> variations are able to increase cancer risk through long-range looping 
> interactions with cancer-causing genes elsewhere in the genome,” study 
> leader Professor Richard Houlston, Professor of Molecular and Population 
> Genetics at The Institute of Cancer Research, London said.“It is sometimes 
> described as analogous to a wormhole, where distortions in space and time 
> could in theory bring together distant parts of the universe.”The research 
> was funded by the EU, Cancer Research UK, Leukaemia & Lymphoma Research, 
> and The Institute of Cancer Research (ICR). 
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RE: DNA Wormholes can cause cancer (what!?)

2015-04-05 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
 

 

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Chris,

Roger – what an interesting job, if you like reading this kind of stuff that is 
J

 

I knew about DNA being wound around a supporting matrix – e.g. the histones – 
but I never knew that this non-DNA structural protein had any interactions with 
the DNA Wrapped around it) that could control expressing sections of encoding 
DNA. Of course this implies that the histone does more than just provide a 
structural matrix for the DNA to become tightly packed in, and that was news to 
me.

I have been following epigenetic stuff for a while, especially well documented 
for the methylation pathway, but this appears to be yet a separate pathway for 
genomic expression and hereditary transmission of information. 

The story of heredity is getting more and more interesting. For example, check 
out the link to the story below; life (and living systems) seem like they have 
more levels of operation than previously believed.

 

Mothers can pass traits to offspring through bacteria's DNA, mouse study shows 
<http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/02/150216125425.htm>  
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/02/150216125425.htm

 

Cheers,

Chris

 

Hi.  It's good that they have new studies confirming this stuff, but the 
looping of DNA into 3D structures inside the nucleus  has been known for 
awhile.   I think they're even starting to map these interactions just like the 
human genome project.  One of the methods they use is to crosslink the DNA in 
the nucleus so that the shape it's currently in is saved, and then sequence the 
crosslinked areas to identify the crosslinked segments of DNA.  But, I admit 
calling this a wormhole is kind of just good marketing.  I guess the everything 
list is kind of like a wormhole that brings together distant people so they can 
talk about "everything"! :-)

 

Also, on the epigenetic inheritance thing via histones, it's also good that 
new studies are proving this stuff, but epigenetic changes (changes in gene 
expression caused by things other than changes to the DNA sequence) that can be 
inherited have also been known for 10 years or so.  So far, what they know are 
that these changes are caused by adding or removing methyl groups to the DNA 
bases or methyl and acetyl groups to the histones.  That affects how the genes 
are expressed.  These changes can be affected by the environment and your own 
activities (like exercise).   So, your descendants may thank you for exercising 
and eating right!

 

The only reason I know some stuff about this is that I have kind of a weird 
job where I read biochem. articles all day and put the new stuff into a 
database. 

 

See you!

 

Roger 

 

 




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-Original Message- 
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Standish 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 1:44 PM 
To: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List 
Subject: Re: DNA Wormholes can cause cancer (what!?) 

Of course, this is what Australia's John Mattick has been saying for decades (I 
heard him talk on this nearly 15 years ago, for instance, and he'd been railing 
at the establishment sometime before that). 

>> But "wormholes"? Really? Someone in marketing has been given far too liberal 
>> a rein. 

They're always on the hunt for that catchy title aren't they; I find them 
amusing :)   
Still, in seriousness, it's an interesting idea: that previously overlooked, 
non-local effects,  naturally operating within an organisms DNA may be playing 
a more fundamental role in life than previously believed (or even considered to 
be occurring at all) 
Chris 

Cheers 


On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 05:26:16PM +, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything 
List wrote: 
> [Have been very busy on a new software project and have not had time 
> to follow and participate on this list... such an active list :). ] 
> Came across this article and found it interesting also from an 
> information science point of view -- taking the perspective of DNA 
> being a fairly dynamic information repository. It seems like the 
> butterfly effect is operating in DNA... a small difference one place 
> can result in effects being triggered in very distant DNA locations... 
> or as the researchers said... kind of like a wormhole.-Chris 
> 
> Cancer risk linked to DNA ‘wormholes’ 
> 
> February 25, 2015 
> Single-letter genetic variations within parts of the genome once dismissed as 
> “junk DNA” can increase cancer risk through remote effects on far-off genes, 
> new research by scientists at The Institute of Cancer Research, London 
> shows.The researchers found that DNA sequ

Re: DNA Wormholes can cause cancer (what!?)

2015-04-04 Thread 'Roger' via Everything List
Chris,

Hi.  It's good that they have new studies confirming this stuff, but 
the looping of DNA into 3D structures inside the nucleus  has been known 
for awhile.   I think they're even starting to map these interactions just 
like the human genome project.  One of the methods they use is to crosslink 
the DNA in the nucleus so that the shape it's currently in is saved, and 
then sequence the crosslinked areas to identify the crosslinked segments of 
DNA.  But, I admit calling this a wormhole is kind of just good marketing. 
 I guess the everything list is kind of like a wormhole that brings 
together distant people so they can talk about "everything"! :-)

Also, on the epigenetic inheritance thing via histones, it's also good 
that new studies are proving this stuff, but epigenetic changes (changes in 
gene expression caused by things other than changes to the DNA sequence) 
that can be inherited have also been known for 10 years or so.  So far, 
what they know are that these changes are caused by adding or removing 
methyl groups to the DNA bases or methyl and acetyl groups to the histones. 
 That affects how the genes are expressed.  These changes can be affected 
by the environment and your own activities (like exercise).   So, your 
descendants may thank you for exercising and eating right!

The only reason I know some stuff about this is that I have kind of a 
weird job where I read biochem. articles all day and put the new stuff into 
a database. 

See you!

Roger 

 


On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 3:08:19 PM UTC-4, cdemorsella wrote:
>
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: everyth...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> everyth...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Russell Standish 
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 1:44 PM 
> To: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List 
> Subject: Re: DNA Wormholes can cause cancer (what!?) 
>
> Of course, this is what Australia's John Mattick has been saying for 
> decades (I heard him talk on this nearly 15 years ago, for instance, and 
> he'd been railing at the establishment sometime before that). 
>
> >> But "wormholes"? Really? Someone in marketing has been given far too 
> liberal a rein. 
>
> They're always on the hunt for that catchy title aren't they; I find them 
> amusing :)   
> Still, in seriousness, it's an interesting idea: that previously 
> overlooked, non-local effects,  naturally operating within an organisms DNA 
> may be playing a more fundamental role in life than previously believed (or 
> even considered to be occurring at all) 
> Chris 
>
> Cheers 
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 05:26:16PM +, 'Chris de Morsella' via 
> Everything List wrote: 
> > [Have been very busy on a new software project and have not had time 
> > to follow and participate on this list... such an active list :). ] 
> > Came across this article and found it interesting also from an 
> > information science point of view -- taking the perspective of DNA 
> > being a fairly dynamic information repository. It seems like the 
> > butterfly effect is operating in DNA... a small difference one place 
> > can result in effects being triggered in very distant DNA locations... 
> > or as the researchers said... kind of like a wormhole.-Chris 
> > 
> > Cancer risk linked to DNA ‘wormholes’ 
> > 
> > February 25, 2015 
> > Single-letter genetic variations within parts of the genome once 
> dismissed as “junk DNA” can increase cancer risk through remote effects on 
> far-off genes, new research by scientists at The Institute of Cancer 
> Research, London shows.The researchers found that DNA sequences within 
> “gene deserts” — so called because they are completely devoid of genes — 
> can regulate gene activity elsewhere by forming DNA loops across relatively 
> large distances.The study helps solve a mystery about how genetic 
> variations in parts of the genome that don’t appear to be doing very much 
> can increase cancer risk.Their study, published in Nature Communications, 
> also has implications for the study of other complex genetic diseases.The 
> researchers developed a technique called Capture Hi-C to investigate 
> long-range physical interactions between stretches of DNA – allowing them 
> to look at how specific areas of chromosomes interact physically in more 
> detail.The researchers assessed 14 regions of DNA that contain 
> single-letter variations previously linked to bowel cancer risk. They 
> detected significant long-range interactions for all 14 regions, confirming 
> their role in gene regulation.“Our new technique shows that genetic 
> variations are able to increase cancer risk through long-ran

RE: DNA Wormholes can cause cancer (what!?)

2015-04-04 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List


-Original Message-
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russell Standish
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 1:44 PM
To: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
Subject: Re: DNA Wormholes can cause cancer (what!?)

Of course, this is what Australia's John Mattick has been saying for decades (I 
heard him talk on this nearly 15 years ago, for instance, and he'd been railing 
at the establishment sometime before that).

>> But "wormholes"? Really? Someone in marketing has been given far too liberal 
>> a rein.

They're always on the hunt for that catchy title aren't they; I find them 
amusing :)  
Still, in seriousness, it's an interesting idea: that previously overlooked, 
non-local effects,  naturally operating within an organisms DNA may be playing 
a more fundamental role in life than previously believed (or even considered to 
be occurring at all)
Chris

Cheers


On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 05:26:16PM +, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything 
List wrote:
> [Have been very busy on a new software project and have not had time 
> to follow and participate on this list... such an active list :). ] 
> Came across this article and found it interesting also from an 
> information science point of view -- taking the perspective of DNA 
> being a fairly dynamic information repository. It seems like the 
> butterfly effect is operating in DNA... a small difference one place 
> can result in effects being triggered in very distant DNA locations... 
> or as the researchers said... kind of like a wormhole.-Chris
> 
> Cancer risk linked to DNA ‘wormholes’
> 
> February 25, 2015
> Single-letter genetic variations within parts of the genome once dismissed as 
> “junk DNA” can increase cancer risk through remote effects on far-off genes, 
> new research by scientists at The Institute of Cancer Research, London 
> shows.The researchers found that DNA sequences within “gene deserts” — so 
> called because they are completely devoid of genes — can regulate gene 
> activity elsewhere by forming DNA loops across relatively large distances.The 
> study helps solve a mystery about how genetic variations in parts of the 
> genome that don’t appear to be doing very much can increase cancer risk.Their 
> study, published in Nature Communications, also has implications for the 
> study of other complex genetic diseases.The researchers developed a technique 
> called Capture Hi-C to investigate long-range physical interactions between 
> stretches of DNA – allowing them to look at how specific areas of chromosomes 
> interact physically in more detail.The researchers assessed 14 regions of DNA 
> that contain single-letter variations previously linked to bowel cancer risk. 
> They detected significant long-range interactions for all 14 regions, 
> confirming their role in gene regulation.“Our new technique shows that 
> genetic variations are able to increase cancer risk through long-range 
> looping interactions with cancer-causing genes elsewhere in the genome,” 
> study leader Professor Richard Houlston, Professor of Molecular and 
> Population Genetics at The Institute of Cancer Research, London said.“It is 
> sometimes described as analogous to a wormhole, where distortions in space 
> and time could in theory bring together distant parts of the universe.”The 
> research was funded by the EU, Cancer Research UK, Leukaemia & Lymphoma 
> Research, and The Institute of Cancer Research (ICR).
> 
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Re: DNA Wormholes can cause cancer (what!?)

2015-02-26 Thread LizR
Eek! Now I'm worried that if protein folding goes just a bit too far, my
cells will collapse into a black hole.

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Re: DNA Wormholes can cause cancer (what!?)

2015-02-26 Thread Russell Standish
Of course, this is what Australia's John Mattick has been saying for
decades (I heard him talk on this nearly 15 years ago, for instance,
and he'd been railing at the establishment sometime before that).

But "wormholes"? Really? Someone in marketing has been given far too
liberal a rein.

Cheers


On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 05:26:16PM +, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything 
List wrote:
> [Have been very busy on a new software project and have not had time to 
> follow and participate on this list... such an active list :). ]
> Came across this article and found it interesting also from an information 
> science point of view -- taking the perspective of DNA being a fairly dynamic 
> information repository. It seems like the butterfly effect is operating in 
> DNA... a small difference one place can result in effects being triggered in 
> very distant DNA locations... or as the researchers said... kind of like a 
> wormhole.-Chris
> 
> Cancer risk linked to DNA ‘wormholes’
> 
> February 25, 2015
> Single-letter genetic variations within parts of the genome once dismissed as 
> “junk DNA” can increase cancer risk through remote effects on far-off genes, 
> new research by scientists at The Institute of Cancer Research, London 
> shows.The researchers found that DNA sequences within “gene deserts” — so 
> called because they are completely devoid of genes — can regulate gene 
> activity elsewhere by forming DNA loops across relatively large distances.The 
> study helps solve a mystery about how genetic variations in parts of the 
> genome that don’t appear to be doing very much can increase cancer risk.Their 
> study, published in Nature Communications, also has implications for the 
> study of other complex genetic diseases.The researchers developed a technique 
> called Capture Hi-C to investigate long-range physical interactions between 
> stretches of DNA – allowing them to look at how specific areas of chromosomes 
> interact physically in more detail.The researchers assessed 14 regions of DNA 
> that contain single-letter variations previously linked to bowel cancer risk. 
> They detected significant long-range interactions for all 14 regions, 
> confirming their role in gene regulation.“Our new technique shows that 
> genetic variations are able to increase cancer risk through long-range 
> looping interactions with cancer-causing genes elsewhere in the genome,” 
> study leader Professor Richard Houlston, Professor of Molecular and 
> Population Genetics at The Institute of Cancer Research, London said.“It is 
> sometimes described as analogous to a wormhole, where distortions in space 
> and time could in theory bring together distant parts of the universe.”The 
> research was funded by the EU, Cancer Research UK, Leukaemia & Lymphoma 
> Research, and The Institute of Cancer Research (ICR).
> 
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RE: DNA Wormholes can cause cancer (what!?)

2015-02-26 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
[Have been very busy on a new software project and have not had time to follow 
and participate on this list... such an active list :). ]
Came across this article and found it interesting also from an information 
science point of view -- taking the perspective of DNA being a fairly dynamic 
information repository. It seems like the butterfly effect is operating in 
DNA... a small difference one place can result in effects being triggered in 
very distant DNA locations... or as the researchers said... kind of like a 
wormhole.-Chris

Cancer risk linked to DNA ‘wormholes’

February 25, 2015
Single-letter genetic variations within parts of the genome once dismissed as 
“junk DNA” can increase cancer risk through remote effects on far-off genes, 
new research by scientists at The Institute of Cancer Research, London 
shows.The researchers found that DNA sequences within “gene deserts” — so 
called because they are completely devoid of genes — can regulate gene activity 
elsewhere by forming DNA loops across relatively large distances.The study 
helps solve a mystery about how genetic variations in parts of the genome that 
don’t appear to be doing very much can increase cancer risk.Their study, 
published in Nature Communications, also has implications for the study of 
other complex genetic diseases.The researchers developed a technique called 
Capture Hi-C to investigate long-range physical interactions between stretches 
of DNA – allowing them to look at how specific areas of chromosomes interact 
physically in more detail.The researchers assessed 14 regions of DNA that 
contain single-letter variations previously linked to bowel cancer risk. They 
detected significant long-range interactions for all 14 regions, confirming 
their role in gene regulation.“Our new technique shows that genetic variations 
are able to increase cancer risk through long-range looping interactions with 
cancer-causing genes elsewhere in the genome,” study leader Professor Richard 
Houlston, Professor of Molecular and Population Genetics at The Institute of 
Cancer Research, London said.“It is sometimes described as analogous to a 
wormhole, where distortions in space and time could in theory bring together 
distant parts of the universe.”The research was funded by the EU, Cancer 
Research UK, Leukaemia & Lymphoma Research, and The Institute of Cancer 
Research (ICR).

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