Re: The death of analytic philosophy and the birth of consciousness

2013-11-28 Thread Bruno Marchal


On 27 Nov 2013, at 14:11, Roger Clough wrote:


The death of analytic philosophy and the birth of consciousness
Consciousness, which is experience by the first person singular,
is by definition outside of the scope of analytic philosophy, which
is limited to be able to only deal in descriptions of experience.

Definition  of  ANALYTIC  PHILOSOPHY
"a  philosophical  movement  that  seeks  the  solution  of   
philosophical  problems
in  the  analysis   of  propositions  or  sentences  ?alled  also   
philosophical  analysis

compare  ordinary-language  philosophy. "

Analytic  (British)  philosophy  (Bertrand  Russell, Anthony Flew.  
etc.)

limits  philosophy to  word and logic  puzzles and thus legitimizes
atheism and materialism. This has given rise to a semi-religious
cult or atheism and materialism that cannot  tell  us  about
experiential human  issues  such  as  consciousness, religion,  and  
true ai.

Or meaningful issues such as ethics or aesthetics.

However,  continental  philosophy  and Indian philosophy can.
(Leibniz,  Kant, Indian philosophers).


Analytical philosophy can do that too. For contingent reasons,  
analytical philosophers rarely do that, nor do logicians do that. But  
they can, and should, and fortunately, computer science makes this  
utterly clear, by showing that machines confronted with themselves  
cannot avoid the (meta)description of personal first person features  
which provably admit no description at all.


Bruno





Dr.  Roger  B  Clough  NIST  (ret.)  [1/1/2000]
See  my  Leibniz  site  at
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough



Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
See my Leibniz site at
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough

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The death of analytic philosophy and the birth of consciousness

2013-11-27 Thread Roger Clough
The death of analytic philosophy and the birth of consciousness 

Consciousness, which is experience by the first person singular,
is by definition outside of the scope of analytic philosophy, which 
is limited to be able to only deal in descriptions of experience. 

Definition  of  ANALYTIC  PHILOSOPHY  
"a  philosophical  movement  that  seeks  the  solution  of  philosophical  
problems   
in  the  analysis   of  propositions  or  sentences  ?alled  also  
philosophical  analysis   
compare  ordinary-language  philosophy. "

Analytic  (British)  philosophy  (Bertrand  Russell, Anthony Flew. etc.)  
limits  philosophy to  word and logic  puzzles and thus legitimizes 
atheism and materialism. This has given rise to a semi-religious
cult or atheism and materialism that cannot  tell  us  about  
experiential human  issues  such  as  consciousness, religion,  and true ai.
Or meaningful issues such as ethics or aesthetics. 
   
However,  continental  philosophy  and Indian philosophy can. 
(Leibniz,  Kant, Indian philosophers).   
  
Dr.  Roger  B  Clough  NIST  (ret.)  [1/1/2000]  
See  my  Leibniz  site  at  
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough 



Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] 
See my Leibniz site at 
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough

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