Re: Re: Where do ideas come from?

2013-01-10 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Bruno Marchal 

The how do ideas form, and what are they ?


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On 09 Jan 2013, at 12:17, Roger Clough wrote:


 Penrose's concept of consciousness as quantum wave collapse
 would seem, at least this morning, to be similar or analogous
 to my suggestion that ideas are fixed forms of consciousness created
 by some type of collapse of quntum wave collapse such as
 photons are formed by the collapse of a wavicle.

A nonsensical theory of observation (collapse) needs a nonsensical 
theory of mind, perhaps.

Bruno




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Re: Where do ideas come from?

2013-01-10 Thread Bruno Marchal


On 10 Jan 2013, at 13:08, Roger Clough wrote:


Hi Bruno Marchal

The how do ideas form, and what are they ?



They are intensional numbers, or if you prefer, programs, or  
generalization about programs, or about generalizations on  
generalizations on programs, etc, made by programs.

(I answer in the comp theory).

They are all generated and put in context, by the universal  
dovetailer, which generates and executes them with a very special  
redundancy, which plays some role in the measure on our first person  
possible consistent extensions.


Bruno





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On 09 Jan 2013, at 12:17, Roger Clough wrote:


 Penrose's concept of consciousness as quantum wave collapse
 would seem, at least this morning, to be similar or analogous
 to my suggestion that ideas are fixed forms of consciousness created
 by some type of collapse of quntum wave collapse such as
 photons are formed by the collapse of a wavicle.

A nonsensical theory of observation (collapse) needs a nonsensical
theory of mind, perhaps.

Bruno




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Where do ideas come from?

2013-01-09 Thread Roger Clough

Penrose's concept of consciousness as quantum wave collapse 
would seem, at least this morning, to be similar or analogous 
to my suggestion that ideas are fixed forms of consciousness created 
by some type of collapse of quntum wave collapse such as
photons are formed by the collapse of a wavicle. 


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Re: Where do ideas come from?

2013-01-09 Thread Bruno Marchal


On 09 Jan 2013, at 12:17, Roger Clough wrote:



Penrose's concept of consciousness as quantum wave collapse
would seem, at least this morning, to be similar or analogous
to my suggestion that ideas are fixed forms of consciousness created
by some type of collapse of quntum wave collapse such as
photons are formed by the collapse of a wavicle.


A nonsensical theory of observation (collapse) needs a nonsensical  
theory of mind, perhaps.


Bruno





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