Re: [Evolution] Final Leap
Well i dont live in the USA, so DMCA is irrelevent (for now, till 'they' bully our laws to match). Anyway, these are NOT anti copying measures at all, merely an undocumented format, so I very much doubt DMCA has anything to say on the matter. DMCA is all about intentional anti-copying mechanisms, of which PST isn't an example. Besides, you're not going to get sued for converting your email. Its all just bullshit anyway. On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 21:53 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 10:08 +0800, Not Zed wrote: On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 12:44 -0400, Wise, Jeremey wrote: [snip] c) Is their an import tool from an Outlook Archive? There's a tool called outport I think? And the libpst code also has a tool to dump a PST file into a set of standard unix mailboxes; i don't know whether those tools provide what you need. Use google, or freshmeat to find them. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2003/04/msg00256.html I think the only apps that don't breach DMCA are ones that are restricted to OE 4.x. The best thing to do now in use *Windows* Mozilla to convert from PST to mbox. Michael Zucchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ximian Evolution and Free Software Developer Novell, Inc. attachment: zed-48.small.jpg
Re: [Evolution] Final Leap
On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 18:27 +0800, Not Zed wrote: Well i dont live in the USA, so DMCA is irrelevent (for now, till 'they' bully our laws to match). Anyway, these are NOT anti copying measures at all, merely an undocumented format, so I very much doubt DMCA has anything to say on the matter. DMCA is all about intentional anti-copying mechanisms, of which PST isn't an example. But it's written broadly enough that it's used for other purposes. Besides, you're not going to get sued for converting your email. Its all just bullshit anyway. Well, yes, but it's still the law in my country, so lawyers can make life difficult and costly. On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 21:53 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 10:08 +0800, Not Zed wrote: On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 12:44 -0400, Wise, Jeremey wrote: [snip] c) Is their an import tool from an Outlook Archive? There's a tool called outport I think? And the libpst code also has a tool to dump a PST file into a set of standard unix mailboxes; i don't know whether those tools provide what you need. Use google, or freshmeat to find them. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2003/04/msg00256.html I think the only apps that don't breach DMCA are ones that are restricted to OE 4.x. The best thing to do now in use *Windows* Mozilla to convert from PST to mbox. -- Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Final Leap
On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 10:08 +0800, Not Zed wrote: On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 12:44 -0400, Wise, Jeremey wrote: [snip] c) Is their an import tool from an Outlook Archive? There's a tool called outport I think? And the libpst code also has a tool to dump a PST file into a set of standard unix mailboxes; i don't know whether those tools provide what you need. Use google, or freshmeat to find them. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2003/04/msg00256.html I think the only apps that don't breach DMCA are ones that are restricted to OE 4.x. The best thing to do now in use *Windows* Mozilla to convert from PST to mbox. -- Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Final Leap
On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 12:44 -0400, Wise, Jeremey wrote: Ok, I have used evolution for several weeks now as my production system. I just received my new laptop and finished installing SuSE 9.0 on it and have a few questions and looking for direction. 1) SuSE 9.0 has EVO 1.4 support. Is 1.5x worth the jump or a better way to put it.. is it stable enough for a person of reasonable technical savy-ishness? If you only use email, it should be at least, if not more stable than 1.4, for a given snapshot (the odd bad snapshot comes out, but that usually just means some feature doesn't work quite right than real instability). I can't recall if we package snapshots for suse 9.0 tho (?). 2) I am finding that many of my emails were saved and archived into offline PO with Outlook 2003 and I will have to boot that up and do some form of import. My thought was to drag them back into a new Archive folder but their are a couple of issues with that. a) I have a 50MB limit on my mailbox and with diagrams and such we are looking at about 350MB. That is a lot of copy-up copy-down. b) To archive them on my laptop for referenced or searching I will need to create the archive folder in my Local Folders mailbox which stores all contents in ~/evolution. It appears that mail storage is in a single file (similar to what Outlook did). What impact will this have on searching based on key words in the subject or body? (aka Outlook was next to impossible to locate historical data or find notes on an old case or issue). If you have indexing on, it will slow down adding to a mailbox somewhat (depending on how many messages you add at a time and other factors - in normal/light use its no slower than network download delays), but searching is very fast. I've got about 1GB of email spread over 20odd folders. My biggest folder is just under 200MB, it has body indexing turned on, and all indices take a total of about 10MB of extra disk space. I can do a body search for a simple word (no punctuation etc), in under 2 seconds on a Pentium M 1.5Ghz box. Evo uses a lot of memory though - tradeoff. Certain operations, like labbeling messages or expunging deleted messages will require a mailbox rewrite - but that isn't much slower than a file copy, not interactive, but its usually acceptable. If you have a lot of big mails with attachments then searching/indexing is even more efficient since only text parts are indexed. c) Is their an import tool from an Outlook Archive? There's a tool called outport I think? And the libpst code also has a tool to dump a PST file into a set of standard unix mailboxes; i don't know whether those tools provide what you need. Use google, or freshmeat to find them. Another alternative is to setup an imap account in outlook, and use the imap account to do the copying. *** Maybe the issue here is that I still do not understand the function and resouce ability of VFolders I have lurked on the list for some time and they apear to be only usefull for building searching / views of emails but can someone point me to VFolder 101 Primer None exist that I know of :-/ Its one of those things you try and love or never really use. 3) My end goal is to have all inbound email for my Exchange user come in and be moved offline after being sorted. I would aSSume that this would mean moving all email from my [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox to my Local Folders mailbox. Would this mean that I create a rule that move * to folder Local Folders\inbox then run rules to sort? Hmm, if you wanted everything locally i'd probably just use pop + filters. The filters will be run on everything coming in, and any messages which don't match any filters get left in Inbox. This is a typical usage scenario, and how i do my email. Michael Zucchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ximian Evolution and Free Software Developer Novell, Inc. attachment: zed-48.small.jpg
[Evolution] Final Leap
Ok, I have used evolution for several weeks now as my production system. I just received my new laptop and finished installing SuSE 9.0 on it and have a few questions and looking for direction. 1) SuSE 9.0 has EVO 1.4 support. Is 1.5x worth the jump or a better way to put it.. is it stable enough for a person of reasonable technical savy-ishness? 2) I am finding that many of my emails were saved and archived into offline PO with Outlook 2003 and I will have to boot that up and do some form of import. My thought was to drag them back into a new Archive folder but their are a couple of issues with that. a) I have a 50MB limit on my mailbox and with diagrams and such we are looking at about 350MB. That is a lot of copy-up copy-down. b) To archive them on my laptop for referenced or searching I will need to create the archive folder in my Local Folders mailbox which stores all contents in ~/evolution. It appears that mail storage is in a single file (similar to what Outlook did). What impact will this have on searching based on key words in the subject or body? (aka Outlook was next to impossible to locate historical data or find notes on an old case or issue). c) Is their an import tool from an Outlook Archive? *** Maybe the issue here is that I still do not understand the function and resouce ability of VFolders I have lurked on the list for some time and they apear to be only usefull for building searching / views of emails but can someone point me to VFolder 101 Primer 3) My end goal is to have all inbound email for my Exchange user come in and be moved offline after being sorted. I would aSSume that this would mean moving all email from my [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox to my Local Folders mailbox. Would this mean that I create a rule that move * to folder Local Folders\inbox then run rules to sort? Thanks for all who have helped in the migration and the whole process. I hope to be a useful participant in the user group once I get Linux as a Corportate Desktop under my belt. ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Final Leap
On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 12:44 -0400, Wise, Jeremey wrote: Ok, I have used evolution for several weeks now as my production system. I just received my new laptop and finished installing SuSE 9.0 on it and have a few questions and looking for direction. 1) SuSE 9.0 has EVO 1.4 support. Is 1.5x worth the jump or a better way to put it.. is it stable enough for a person of reasonable technical savy-ishness? [...] I can't speak to running 1.5.x under SuSE, but I have had no problems to speak of running 1.5.7 under Mandrake 10.1 cooker. Keep in mind, however, that if you use the summary page you'll lose that in the upgrade, as it's no longer part of the program (no weather, no news feeds, etc.). There are still some features which are common amongst e-mail clients that Evo doesn't have, but IMO it's the best of what's currently available on the Linux side of things. -- Chuck MATTSEN / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Mahnomen, MN / RLU #346519 Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-9mdk 11:54:27 up 1 day, 17 min, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.13, 0.16 Patience; n. A minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue. ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Final Leap
On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 12:44 -0400, Wise, Jeremey wrote: Ok, I have used evolution for several weeks now as my production system. I just received my new laptop and finished installing SuSE 9.0 on it and have a few questions and looking for direction. 1) SuSE 9.0 has EVO 1.4 support. Is 1.5x worth the jump or a better way to put it.. is it stable enough for a person of reasonable technical savy-ishness? 2) I am finding that many of my emails were saved and archived into offline PO with Outlook 2003 and I will have to boot that up and do some form of import. My thought was to drag them back into a new Archive folder but their are a couple of issues with that. a) I have a 50MB limit on my mailbox and with diagrams and such we are looking at about 350MB. That is a lot of copy-up copy-down. I have no idea what you can do about that. You might be able to use Mozilla (on Windows) to import them which would convert them into mbox format. Then you could copy those files over to your Linux machine and import those files into Evolution. b) To archive them on my laptop for referenced or searching I will need to create the archive folder in my Local Folders mailbox which stores all contents in ~/evolution. It appears that mail storage is in a single file (similar to what Outlook did). ??? Each mailbox has a different file (usually in mbox format unles you've changed it). What impact will this have on searching based on key words in the subject or body? (aka Outlook was next to impossible to locate historical data or find notes on an old case or issue). searching in Evolution based on subject strings (or even body searches, assuming you haven't turned body indexing off) is extremely fast. c) Is their an import tool from an Outlook Archive? no. *** Maybe the issue here is that I still do not understand the function and resouce ability of VFolders I have lurked on the list for some time and they apear to be only usefull for building searching / views of emails but can someone point me to VFolder 101 Primer 3) My end goal is to have all inbound email for my Exchange user come in and be moved offline after being sorted. I would aSSume that this would mean moving all email from my [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox to my Local Folders mailbox. Would this mean that I create a rule that move * to folder Local Folders\inbox then run rules to sort? what are you using? imap? or pop? or exchange connector? Jeff -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Novell, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.novell.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
