Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?
> It all sounds a bit, um, icky. And I'm guessing that the development of > the connector isn't going to be at all publically discussed. And I'm a > little frustrated that the mail client that I thought was this huge > effort on the part of the community to write the app that's going to > be a /huge/ part in bringing Linux to the desktop is only going to be > the answer to Outlook in a "Yeah, use Evolution. It's cool. Oh, but > you have to pay for Exchange interoperability." way, and that no-one > mentioned this before. Feels almost like we have to start again, to > find another way of arguing "Linux is free. You can do _this_ with it." > to our bosses. The thing is, in a perfect world, Richard Stallman would be in good terms with every Tom, Dick and Harry in the corporate world. Of course that's a ridiculous thought. I was reading the article on The Register about this, and I thought it was generally an excellent business decision by Ximian. I've seen enough bankruptcies and depressing economic news (add to that the general mass failures of open source companies like VA) to know that a GPL'ed company cannot survive in today's economy. Ximian must make money, and they've decided to go about it in the best way possible. I think any reasonable person should be supportive of them in this decision. As far as the "linux is free" thing, you must first of all consider that Exchange is not linux, is not open source, and is not free. So since the company is already using a proprietary server solution, they should be ready to pay for a proprietary client anyhow. They would still save a good deal of money (compare connector cost to that of Windows + MS office, and don't forget the virus factor) by switching to Linux. However, I do wish that the Open Source community had an answer for MS Exchange. Then yes, we can begin to sound the "linux is free" trumpet without any moral reservatinos. Ibukun msg03823/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Evolution] Quirk with filters
No ... the accounts in question are not IMAP accounts. Ibukun On Sun, 2001-12-02 at 13:50, Manuel Streuhofer wrote: > Perhaps you forgot to activate the "Apply filters to new messages in > INBOX on this server" > > you can find this setting: > > Tools -> Mail Settings -> (select th account you want to edit) -> > Edit -> Receiving Options -> checkbox (as described above) > > Manuel > > On Sun, 2001-12-02 at 20:36, Ibukun Okitika wrote: > > > > This is beginning to get on my nerves a little bit, and primarily > > concerns my spam filters. > > > > For some weird reason the filters are not automatically applied to > > incoming mail, but if I highlight the messages and select "apply > > filters" then they are sent to the junk mail folder where they belong. > > This is especially weird since my mailing list filters function > > normally, sending mailing list messages to their respective folders.I > > loathe seeing junk mail in my inbox. Why is this happening? > > > > Ibukun > > > -- > best regards, > Manuel Streuhofer msg03775/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Evolution] Shortcut Bar
Up till RC-2, the icons on the evolution shortcut bar used to get highlighted with a box whenever I pass the mouse over a button. Now it doesn't, although if I click the icon it goes to the respective folder. Did something get changed, or is it related to my GTK theme? If it was removed I'd love to have it back. :) Ibukun msg03774/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Evolution] Quirk with filters
This is beginning to get on my nerves a little bit, and primarily concerns my spam filters. For some weird reason the filters are not automatically applied to incoming mail, but if I highlight the messages and select "apply filters" then they are sent to the junk mail folder where they belong. This is especially weird since my mailing list filters function normally, sending mailing list messages to their respective folders.I loathe seeing junk mail in my inbox. Why is this happening? Ibukun msg03762/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Evolution] PGP Problem
Hi, Using RC-2 here. All GPG signed messages display "Evolution does not recognize this type of signed message." whenever you click the padlock icon (including messages signed by me). What's wrong? Ibukun msg03502/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Evolution] OK, so I'll ask directly....
Meph, Ah, I understand now. And you're right...evolution does not appear to be very smart at determining what colour to render text in based on widget colors. My best suggestion right now would be to use a theme that is darker -- and thus easier on the eyes -- but at the same time doesn't make black text unreadable. An example is BlueSteel, which is a really nice theme. I'm sure you'll find others like it. It won't fix the problem completely, but at least it's better than having a bright theme. Since Evolution is already at release candidate stage, it is highly unlikely that this issue will be fixed before development starts on 1.1. However I hope someone at Ximian is taking note -- accessibility cannot be ignored in such an important product as this. Ibukun On Sun, 2001-11-18 at 14:04, Meph Istopheles wrote: > Ibukun, > > The issue is my eyes, primarily. I'm light sensitive. Once there > were many nice themes, back in the 1.0 days & when I'd first started > using Enlightenment back in RH 6.0. But now, few themes are dark & > actually control areas where there is normally black fonts on a white > background. > > Now, using the gtk themes with Gnome-Ximian, I've found one which is > tolerable called "Just Blue". But while it darkens the app's menu & > power bars, etc, it also darkens the a window's white area. Trouble is, > Evolution has a set font colour to black. Black fonts on a dark blue > background are naturally rather difficult to make out. > > Perhaps you've found a way to control these which I haven't. I can > play with gtk, as I have in past. But no amount of playing with gtk's > colours will effect Evolutions set black fonts. Hence my asking if > there are any Evolution, Ximian, Bonobo, etc files where I can adjust > colour. > > Meph > > On Sun, 2001-11-18 at 11:48, Ibukun Okitika wrote: > > I imagine colour control is strictly a function of your GTK theme. I > > wonder why you say the best theme you have makes your fonts > > unreadable...there are several gtk themes that are good and usable. I > > currently use the Metal theme (themed after Sun's java widget style), > > and there are other nice ones like Eazel-blue etc. Those should work > > well without any colour issues. There are probably ways to edit your > > themes colours by editing the gtkrc file (found either in $HOME/.gtkrc > > or /usr/share/themes/ThemeName/gtk/gtkrc), but I know nothing of the > > syntax of that file. > > > Ibukun > msg03270/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Evolution] evolution rpms
Theoretically they should, since redhat and mandrake use a similar file layout. But nonetheless i've checked on rpmfind.net and there are evolution-0.99 (rc 1) packages available there (for RawHide, which I believe is the Red Hat development distribution - like mandrake's cooker). So those would probably be your best bet. You'll probably also have to install a host of libs with it...these are the ones I remember: gal, libgal, libgtkhtml (18/19 or something), bonobo, oaf. You best bet is to run rpm -Uvh evolution-0.99.0-1.i386.rpm and check for the dependencies. Then search rpmfind.net for them. Good luck! Ibukun On Sun, 2001-11-18 at 13:51, Rudy Ordaz wrote: > I'm on a redhat 7.2 system. Would the Mandrake rpms > work for me? > > Rudy > --- Ibukun Okitika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you're running Mandrake Linux there are RC 1 rpms > > available on the > > Mandrake cooker. Mirrors: > > > > > ftp://speakeasy.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS > > > ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS > > > > All the supporting libs (gal, gtkhtml etc.) are also > > available on the > > cooker. > > > > I don't have info about any other distros...I wonder > > if Debian unstable > > also has the rc-1 rpms. Check > > http://packages.debian.org if you're > > running debian. > > > > Ibukun > > > > On Sat, 2001-11-17 at 23:24, Rudy Ordaz wrote: > > > Where can I get all the rpm to install evolution > > > without XG? > > > > > > I looked at the ximian ftp server but I didn't see > > all > > > the rpms that satisfy it. > > > > > > Thanks, Rudy > > > > > > __ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals > > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > > ___ > > > evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution > > > > > > > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals > http://personals.yahoo.com > msg03269/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Fwd: [Evolution] Yet another annoying bug: focus behavior]
Erm...Enlightenment *hasn't* been updated recently. 0.16.5 was released quite a while ago and is still the current version (which is what I am using). I have gone through my configs again and I don't see anything wrong...and like I said, this behavior is only observable in evolution and not any other app. It also doesn't seem to happen immediately. For example, I could click in To: first and things would be ok, then I click in Subject and then everything gets wacky. As for bonobo, I think I have all my libraries updated, maybe I'm wrong. Here are my package versions: libbonobo2-1.0.7-2mdk libglade-bonobo0-0.16-7mdk bonobo-conf-0.11-1mdk libbonobo-conf0-0.11-1mdk bonobo-1.0.7-2mdk libgtk+1.2-1.2.10-1mdk So there it is...you may compare to the versions you have and perhaps something needs to be updated. I could also try another wm (even though I generally dislike using anything other than enlightenment, and would rather stop using evolution than stop using enlightenment.). Ibukun On Sun, 2001-09-23 at 00:45, Dan Hensley wrote: > The reason I think it's a WM issue is because WM is supposed to handle > this kind of thing. With mine I can type in the To: field no matter > where my mouse pointer is, even moving while I type. I have > click-to-focus set up. Have you updated Enlightenment recently? Have > you tried to reproduce this problem with with any other window managers? > > I did have an issue with focus a while back, and it turned out to be a > combination sawfish/gtk/bonobo bug. Do you have the latest release of > bonobo? > > Dan > > On Sat, 2001-09-22 at 23:30, Ibukun Okitika wrote: > > Dan, > > > > I would be surprised if it is. I've been running Enlightenment 0.16 for > > a quite a long time and I haven't seen this behavior in any other > > application before. Even my window focus behavior is set to > > click-to-focus (if that were the issue). But it's not the window focus > > that's the problem - it's the particular To: field widget that loses > > focus...widget focus follows the pointer sloppily. For example, if I'm > > typing here and I move the pointer to the Subject field, text typed > > begins to appear in the Subject field instead of the body. > > > > Ibukun > > > > On Sat, 2001-09-22 at 22:51, Dan Hensley wrote: > > > Are you sure it's not a window manager issue? That's certainly my first > > > guess. I don't see this problem (Sawfish 1.0). > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > On Sat, 2001-09-22 at 21:22, Ibukun Okitika wrote: > > > > Could someone respond to this? IMO it is a significant issue that should > > > > be addressed before 1.0 is out. Possibly the problem could be a > > > > misconfiguration of gtk/gnome libraries on my computer, but I haven't > > > > even messed with gnome control for a good deal of time so I don't see > > > > why...I have upgraded with every snapshot that was released. The focus > > > > behavior is enough to discourage any user from using this product. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Ibukun Okitika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: [Evolution] Yet another annoying bug: focus behavior > > > > Date: 21 Sep 2001 14:38:18 -0500 > > > > > > > > Haven't checked to see if this has been fixed in the latest cvs snapshot. > > > > > > > > In the compose window, widget focus follows the mouse pointer sloppily. > > > > Which means that if I move my mouse off the To: field while typing > > > > addresses, the field loses focus. It is incredibly irritating. > > > > > > > > Ibukun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution > > > ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Fwd: [Evolution] Yet another annoying bug: focus behavior]
Dan, I would be surprised if it is. I've been running Enlightenment 0.16 for a quite a long time and I haven't seen this behavior in any other application before. Even my window focus behavior is set to click-to-focus (if that were the issue). But it's not the window focus that's the problem - it's the particular To: field widget that loses focus...widget focus follows the pointer sloppily. For example, if I'm typing here and I move the pointer to the Subject field, text typed begins to appear in the Subject field instead of the body. Ibukun On Sat, 2001-09-22 at 22:51, Dan Hensley wrote: > Are you sure it's not a window manager issue? That's certainly my first > guess. I don't see this problem (Sawfish 1.0). > > Dan > > On Sat, 2001-09-22 at 21:22, Ibukun Okitika wrote: > > Could someone respond to this? IMO it is a significant issue that should > > be addressed before 1.0 is out. Possibly the problem could be a > > misconfiguration of gtk/gnome libraries on my computer, but I haven't > > even messed with gnome control for a good deal of time so I don't see > > why...I have upgraded with every snapshot that was released. The focus > > behavior is enough to discourage any user from using this product. > > > > > > > > > From: Ibukun Okitika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [Evolution] Yet another annoying bug: focus behavior > > Date: 21 Sep 2001 14:38:18 -0500 > > > > Haven't checked to see if this has been fixed in the latest cvs snapshot. > > > > In the compose window, widget focus follows the mouse pointer sloppily. > > Which means that if I move my mouse off the To: field while typing > > addresses, the field loses focus. It is incredibly irritating. > > > > Ibukun > > > > > > > > ___ > > evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution > > > > > ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Fwd: [Evolution] Yet another annoying bug: focus behavior]
Could someone respond to this? IMO it is a significant issue that should be addressed before 1.0 is out. Possibly the problem could be a misconfiguration of gtk/gnome libraries on my computer, but I haven't even messed with gnome control for a good deal of time so I don't see why...I have upgraded with every snapshot that was released. The focus behavior is enough to discourage any user from using this product. Haven't checked to see if this has been fixed in the latest cvs snapshot. In the compose window, widget focus follows the mouse pointer sloppily. Which means that if I move my mouse off the To: field while typing addresses, the field loses focus. It is incredibly irritating. Ibukun ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution] One little annoyance
I don't know if anyone has reported this yet, but whenever I click the folder list button (to move to another folder), the pointer changes to a drag pointer (like it's trying to move something), and then I have to click outside, then click the button again to get to that folder. It's a very annoying quirk that I would like to see gotten rid of in the next snapshot. Ibukun ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Summary -- Weather
The thought of -40.0 degrees C in Houston. *shudder* Thankful that has been ironed out (or has it?) Ibukun - Original Message - From: "Benoît Pelletier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:19 AM Subject: [Evolution] Summary -- Weather > My Weather summary for Montreal today shows: > > Few clouds - 24.0 C > > This may be fine for many cities in the world but for Montreal and many > other North hemisphere cities, the minus sign in front of the actual > temperature may be confusing; is it +24 or -24?? Today it's easy to > figure out but in december, the question may be: is it -5 or +5? And > then it is less obvious... > > So I suggest that the separator sign be changed to something different; > a colon, an arrow or even put "+" instead of nothing when the weather is > in the positive degees. > > Just some suggestions... > > Benoit P. > > > > > ___ > evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution > ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Fw: [Evolution] Irregularities in mail folder format conversion
Since nobody has seconded this issue, I thought I'd submit it again. Somebody have any idea? - Original Message - From: "Ibukun Okitika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Evolution Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 10:57 PM Subject: [Evolution] Irregularities in mail folder format conversion > > I noticed this bug which I was able to reproduce over and over again: > > 1. Convert a folder, any folder, from the default mbox format to maildir. > 2. Switch to another folder (e.g. Inbox). Immediately there is an error > message: > Error while 'Synchronizing 'mbox'': > Cannot create folder lock on > /home/ibukun/evolution/local/Inbox/subfolders/foldername//mbox: Is a > directory > > 3. Try to copy a message to the newly created folder. A similar error > appears (cannot create folder lock: is a directory). > > Quite evidently evolution seems to have forgotten that the folder has > been converted to maildir and is still trying to read it as mbox. This > problem can only be solved by restarting evolution. > > Ibukun > > > > ___ > evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution > ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
