RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox
Any of you guys know how to change the view on folders? i have IMAP subsuscribed to Exchange server working nicely. I got Calendar/Contact but can't figure out how to change the view so it makes sense... it defaults to mail folders... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of NotZed Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: Jeffrey Stedfast Cc: Steve Arnold; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox It might be that 'filter new messages in inbox' is set on the imap account and there is a rule that moves messages ot the local inbox or something (although afaik it should use the remote inbox if nothing matches). IMAP doesn't download messages otherwise, they remain on the server. Unless you're using POP to access it, which is of course, not what you should be doing if you want to use IMAP. The mail *does* stay on the IMAP server, my last email explained that I thought... It sounds like you are using the Shortcut Bar, which you are free to delete shortcuts from and add new ones to... Just remove the Inbox icon and create a new one for your IMAP Inbox, tada! Jeff On Sun, 2001-11-18 at 20:08, Steve Arnold wrote: Jeffrey Stedfast writes: I'm not sure what you are asking...? Evolution doesn't download IMAP mail into your local Inbox unless you setup filters to do so and also configure Evolution to filter your IMAP Inbox. Allow me to explain :) I'm trying to switch completely from windoze to Linux. Pegasus mail (and my huge mail archive) is one of the last things holding me there. I just setup the full courier mail suite on my local server, and finally got mail routing through my firewall (boy what a PITA *that* was). I played with netscape and mozilla mail with a couple of IMAP accounts on the server, created some mail folders, filters, etc (now that mail is flowing nicely). When I first fired up evolution, it brought a bunch of messages into it's own local inbox (the one that shows in the button panel along the left side). In the folder list, I see both sets of folders, ie, the (apparently) primary folders, and the folders for my main IMAP account on the server. Questions: I want mail to stay in my IMAP folders, in fact, I'd rather not even see the default folders. How do I do that? If I can't get rid of them, can I make the big Inbox button go to my IMAP inbox? I hope that makes at least a little sense :-) Thanks in advance, Steve ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox
What do you mean? Jeff On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 17:02, Matthew Western wrote: Any of you guys know how to change the view on folders? i have IMAP subsuscribed to Exchange server working nicely. I got Calendar/Contact but can't figure out how to change the view so it makes sense... it defaults to mail folders... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of NotZed Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: Jeffrey Stedfast Cc: Steve Arnold; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox It might be that 'filter new messages in inbox' is set on the imap account and there is a rule that moves messages ot the local inbox or something (although afaik it should use the remote inbox if nothing matches). IMAP doesn't download messages otherwise, they remain on the server. Unless you're using POP to access it, which is of course, not what you should be doing if you want to use IMAP. The mail *does* stay on the IMAP server, my last email explained that I thought... It sounds like you are using the Shortcut Bar, which you are free to delete shortcuts from and add new ones to... Just remove the Inbox icon and create a new one for your IMAP Inbox, tada! Jeff On Sun, 2001-11-18 at 20:08, Steve Arnold wrote: Jeffrey Stedfast writes: I'm not sure what you are asking...? Evolution doesn't download IMAP mail into your local Inbox unless you setup filters to do so and also configure Evolution to filter your IMAP Inbox. Allow me to explain :) I'm trying to switch completely from windoze to Linux. Pegasus mail (and my huge mail archive) is one of the last things holding me there. I just setup the full courier mail suite on my local server, and finally got mail routing through my firewall (boy what a PITA *that* was). I played with netscape and mozilla mail with a couple of IMAP accounts on the server, created some mail folders, filters, etc (now that mail is flowing nicely). When I first fired up evolution, it brought a bunch of messages into it's own local inbox (the one that shows in the button panel along the left side). In the folder list, I see both sets of folders, ie, the (apparently) primary folders, and the folders for my main IMAP account on the server. Questions: I want mail to stay in my IMAP folders, in fact, I'd rather not even see the default folders. How do I do that? If I can't get rid of them, can I make the big Inbox button go to my IMAP inbox? I hope that makes at least a little sense :-) Thanks in advance, Steve ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox
Contact and Calendar data has no business being stored in an IMAP folder, IMAP is for mail. Moving contact and calendar data to the local addressbook/calendar has nothing to do with POP. Jeff On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 17:50, Matthew Western wrote: Local Folders - Inbox = Mail Messages Local Folders - Sent Items = Mail Messages Local Foldres - Calendar = Calendar View Local Folders - COntact = Contacts View All Above = Very Good IMAP Folders - Inbox = Mail messages IMAP Folders - Sent Items = Mail messages IMAP Folders - Calendar = Mail Messages IMAP Folders - Contacts = Mail Messages Sad. In Outlook2k, i say this folder is a Calendar folder and voila, it looks like a Calendar. In Evolution, i don't know how/don't know if i can/am wondering if it's on the todo list for developers Hope this explains... Do I want to drag and drop to my local folders? no i do not. that would defeat the purpose of having my IMAP mail on the server, i may as well use POP. Matthew -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Stedfast [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 8:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox What do you mean? Jeff On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 17:02, Matthew Western wrote: Any of you guys know how to change the view on folders? i have IMAP subsuscribed to Exchange server working nicely. I got Calendar/Contact but can't figure out how to change the view so it makes sense... it defaults to mail folders... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of NotZed Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: Jeffrey Stedfast Cc: Steve Arnold; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox It might be that 'filter new messages in inbox' is set on the imap account and there is a rule that moves messages ot the local inbox or something (although afaik it should use the remote inbox if nothing matches). IMAP doesn't download messages otherwise, they remain on the server. Unless you're using POP to access it, which is of course, not what you should be doing if you want to use IMAP. The mail *does* stay on the IMAP server, my last email explained that I thought... It sounds like you are using the Shortcut Bar, which you are free to delete shortcuts from and add new ones to... Just remove the Inbox icon and create a new one for your IMAP Inbox, tada! Jeff On Sun, 2001-11-18 at 20:08, Steve Arnold wrote: Jeffrey Stedfast writes: I'm not sure what you are asking...? Evolution doesn't download IMAP mail into your local Inbox unless you setup filters to do so and also configure Evolution to filter your IMAP Inbox. Allow me to explain :) I'm trying to switch completely from windoze to Linux. Pegasus mail (and my huge mail archive) is one of the last things holding me there. I just setup the full courier mail suite on my local server, and finally got mail routing through my firewall (boy what a PITA *that* was). I played with netscape and mozilla mail with a couple of IMAP accounts on the server, created some mail folders, filters, etc (now that mail is flowing nicely). When I first fired up evolution, it brought a bunch of messages into it's own local inbox (the one that shows in the button panel along the left side). In the folder list, I see both sets of folders, ie, the (apparently) primary folders, and the folders for my main IMAP account on the server. Questions: I want mail to stay in my IMAP folders, in fact, I'd rather not even see the default folders. How do I do that? If I can't get rid of them, can I make the big Inbox button go to my IMAP inbox? I hope that makes at least a little sense :-) Thanks in advance, Steve ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox
sigh before you say this, you have used Outlook2000 connected to an Exchange server? and your thinking like us that Microsoft is charging too much for software? and you like use have a worldwide network of exchange servers (like about 60) and thus is difficult to change them all at one go? deeper sigh and obviously you would be using POP for your exchange servers. you would have shared calenders on the exchange server? you would know what your talking about before you say IMAP has no business being stored in an IMAP folder? i rest my case. -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Stedfast [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 9:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox Contact and Calendar data has no business being stored in an IMAP folder, IMAP is for mail. Moving contact and calendar data to the local addressbook/calendar has nothing to do with POP. Jeff On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 17:50, Matthew Western wrote: Local Folders - Inbox = Mail Messages Local Folders - Sent Items = Mail Messages Local Foldres - Calendar = Calendar View Local Folders - COntact = Contacts View All Above = Very Good IMAP Folders - Inbox = Mail messages IMAP Folders - Sent Items = Mail messages IMAP Folders - Calendar = Mail Messages IMAP Folders - Contacts = Mail Messages Sad. In Outlook2k, i say this folder is a Calendar folder and voila, it looks like a Calendar. In Evolution, i don't know how/don't know if i can/am wondering if it's on the todo list for developers Hope this explains... Do I want to drag and drop to my local folders? no i do not. that would defeat the purpose of having my IMAP mail on the server, i may as well use POP. Matthew -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Stedfast [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 8:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox What do you mean? Jeff On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 17:02, Matthew Western wrote: Any of you guys know how to change the view on folders? i have IMAP subsuscribed to Exchange server working nicely. I got Calendar/Contact but can't figure out how to change the view so it makes sense... it defaults to mail folders... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of NotZed Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: Jeffrey Stedfast Cc: Steve Arnold; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox It might be that 'filter new messages in inbox' is set on the imap account and there is a rule that moves messages ot the local inbox or something (although afaik it should use the remote inbox if nothing matches). IMAP doesn't download messages otherwise, they remain on the server. Unless you're using POP to access it, which is of course, not what you should be doing if you want to use IMAP. The mail *does* stay on the IMAP server, my last email explained that I thought... It sounds like you are using the Shortcut Bar, which you are free to delete shortcuts from and add new ones to... Just remove the Inbox icon and create a new one for your IMAP Inbox, tada! Jeff On Sun, 2001-11-18 at 20:08, Steve Arnold wrote: Jeffrey Stedfast writes: I'm not sure what you are asking...? Evolution doesn't download IMAP mail into your local Inbox unless you setup filters to do so and also configure Evolution to filter your IMAP Inbox. Allow me to explain :) I'm trying to switch completely from windoze to Linux. Pegasus mail (and my huge mail archive) is one of the last things holding me there. I just setup the full courier mail suite on my local server, and finally got mail routing through my firewall (boy what a PITA *that* was). I played with netscape and mozilla mail with a couple of IMAP accounts on the server, created some mail folders, filters, etc (now that mail is flowing nicely). When I first fired up evolution, it brought a bunch of messages into it's own local inbox (the one that shows in the button panel along the left side). In the folder list, I see both sets of folders, ie, the (apparently) primary folders, and the folders for my main IMAP account on the server. Questions: I want mail to stay in my IMAP folders, in fact, I'd rather not even see the default folders. How do I do that? If I can't get rid of them, can I make the big Inbox button go to my IMAP inbox? I hope that makes at least a little sense :-) Thanks in advance, Steve ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox
Okay, so it's not just me I also would like the auto-complete address to work from my LDAP contact directory. Currently I have to click on the TO:, choose the contact list, search for the person, select the correct find, then complete the address. That is a time killer for me. It would be just as easy to type it. The work-around is to add all the LDAP contacts to the local contacts, but that defeats the whole purpose of an company wide real-time database... Is the only contact you get teh auto-complete from the local contacts? On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 14:42, Matthew Western wrote: yep, i have the same problem... i want to use Evolution as a replacment to outlook. I *can't* do this unless i can change the views... Dan Winship (thanks for feedback) thinks that it's impossible.. surely there will be an option in the final release to change the views?? also another thing that isn't a problem but would be an added feature would be to allow the auto checking of names to search the LDAP direcory. In outlook, i can type in a name and have it auto fill in from multiple sources. if LDAP was able to be searched similarly from evo this would be legendary feature.. then we could *blow* away outlook2k and use evolution. (HOOOYYY). drumroll, small tinge of bass, shattering glass sorry i digress. =) -Original Message- From: Courtney Rudd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 8:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox For fear of asking the same question twice: Are you trying to get rid of having to see the local folders in the folder view since you don't sue Local? In other words, are you trying to see only your IMAP folders when using the mailer? I have some of these questions as well and don;t want to post a repeat Thanks Courtney On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 14:02, Matthew Western wrote: Any of you guys know how to change the view on folders? i have IMAP subsuscribed to Exchange server working nicely. I got Calendar/Contact but can't figure out how to change the view so it makes sense... it defaults to mail folders... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of NotZed Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: Jeffrey Stedfast Cc: Steve Arnold; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox It might be that 'filter new messages in inbox' is set on the imap account and there is a rule that moves messages ot the local inbox or something (although afaik it should use the remote inbox if nothing matches). IMAP doesn't download messages otherwise, they remain on the server. Unless you're using POP to access it, which is of course, not what you should be doing if you want to use IMAP. The mail *does* stay on the IMAP server, my last email explained that I thought... It sounds like you are using the Shortcut Bar, which you are free to delete shortcuts from and add new ones to... Just remove the Inbox icon and create a new one for your IMAP Inbox, tada! Jeff On Sun, 2001-11-18 at 20:08, Steve Arnold wrote: Jeffrey Stedfast writes: I'm not sure what you are asking...? Evolution doesn't download IMAP mail into your local Inbox unless you setup filters to do so and also configure Evolution to filter your IMAP Inbox. Allow me to explain :) I'm trying to switch completely from windoze to Linux. Pegasus mail (and my huge mail archive) is one of the last things holding me there. I just setup the full courier mail suite on my local server, and finally got mail routing through my firewall (boy what a PITA *that* was). I played with netscape and mozilla mail with a couple of IMAP accounts on the server, created some mail folders, filters, etc (now that mail is flowing nicely). When I first fired up evolution, it brought a bunch of messages into it's own local inbox (the one that shows in the button panel along the left side). In the folder list, I see both sets of folders, ie, the (apparently) primary folders, and the folders for my main IMAP account on the server. Questions: I want mail to stay in my IMAP folders, in fact, I'd rather not even see the default folders. How do I do that? If I can't get rid of them, can I make the big Inbox button go to my IMAP inbox? I hope that makes at least a little sense :-) Thanks in advance, Steve ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox
yep same for me too. seems like a lot of ppl on this list have a major problem with these two logical things... I've sent a message to a developer i think. Basically when you subscribe to a folder in IMAP it should ask for what kind of folder this is (ie view), exactly the same as when you create a new local folder. and the other being a simple check box saying 'include in auto-name-filling-in' (for what of a better description) for that server (so if you want bigfoot to not be searched you don't and youre local server to you do. Matthew -Original Message- From: Courtney Rudd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 9:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox Okay, so it's not just me I also would like the auto-complete address to work from my LDAP contact directory. Currently I have to click on the TO:, choose the contact list, search for the person, select the correct find, then complete the address. That is a time killer for me. It would be just as easy to type it. The work-around is to add all the LDAP contacts to the local contacts, but that defeats the whole purpose of an company wide real-time database... Is the only contact you get teh auto-complete from the local contacts? On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 14:42, Matthew Western wrote: yep, i have the same problem... i want to use Evolution as a replacment to outlook. I *can't* do this unless i can change the views... Dan Winship (thanks for feedback) thinks that it's impossible.. surely there will be an option in the final release to change the views?? also another thing that isn't a problem but would be an added feature would be to allow the auto checking of names to search the LDAP direcory. In outlook, i can type in a name and have it auto fill in from multiple sources. if LDAP was able to be searched similarly from evo this would be legendary feature.. then we could *blow* away outlook2k and use evolution. (HOOOYYY). drumroll, small tinge of bass, shattering glass sorry i digress. =) -Original Message- From: Courtney Rudd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 8:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox For fear of asking the same question twice: Are you trying to get rid of having to see the local folders in the folder view since you don't sue Local? In other words, are you trying to see only your IMAP folders when using the mailer? I have some of these questions as well and don;t want to post a repeat Thanks Courtney On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 14:02, Matthew Western wrote: Any of you guys know how to change the view on folders? i have IMAP subsuscribed to Exchange server working nicely. I got Calendar/Contact but can't figure out how to change the view so it makes sense... it defaults to mail folders... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of NotZed Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: Jeffrey Stedfast Cc: Steve Arnold; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox It might be that 'filter new messages in inbox' is set on the imap account and there is a rule that moves messages ot the local inbox or something (although afaik it should use the remote inbox if nothing matches). IMAP doesn't download messages otherwise, they remain on the server. Unless you're using POP to access it, which is of course, not what you should be doing if you want to use IMAP. The mail *does* stay on the IMAP server, my last email explained that I thought... It sounds like you are using the Shortcut Bar, which you are free to delete shortcuts from and add new ones to... Just remove the Inbox icon and create a new one for your IMAP Inbox, tada! Jeff On Sun, 2001-11-18 at 20:08, Steve Arnold wrote: Jeffrey Stedfast writes: I'm not sure what you are asking...? Evolution doesn't download IMAP mail into your local Inbox unless you setup filters to do so and also configure Evolution to filter your IMAP Inbox. Allow me to explain :) I'm trying to switch completely from windoze to Linux. Pegasus mail (and my huge mail archive) is one of the last things holding me there. I just setup the full courier mail suite on my local server, and finally got mail routing through my firewall (boy what a PITA *that* was). I played with netscape and mozilla mail with a couple of IMAP accounts on the server, created some mail folders, filters, etc (now that mail is flowing nicely). When I first fired up evolution, it brought a bunch of messages into it's own local inbox (the one that shows in the button panel along the left side). In the folder list, I see both sets
RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox
Matthew. Perhaps you're confusing MAPI with IMAP. They are two different protocols. There are two concepts here: 1) server storage of content Exchange servers can store mail folders and calendar/tasks/contact folders. IMAP servers can store mail folders and that is all. 2) client capabilities to view that content. in order to view Exchange folders you must have an exchange (or other MAPI capable) client. The only ones I know of are made by Microsoft, they are: Exchange Client Outlook OWC (Outlook Web Client) I think Lotus Notes can talk MAPI, but I'm not sure. in order to view IMAP folders (e-mail only) there are several IMAP clients available on all platforms, some examples: Outlook Evolution Netscape Mail Outlook Express Balsa ... and a multitude of others. Bottom line. Evolution is not an exchange client, and therefore cannot be used to replace an Exchange client. If, however, you are using Outlook as your PIM/e-mail client, then Evolution can easily replace Outlook for those purposes. I hope that all makes sense. -john On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 14:58, Matthew Western wrote: sigh before you say this, you have used Outlook2000 connected to an Exchange server? and your thinking like us that Microsoft is charging too much for software? and you like use have a worldwide network of exchange servers (like about 60) and thus is difficult to change them all at one go? deeper sigh and obviously you would be using POP for your exchange servers. you would have shared calenders on the exchange server? you would know what your talking about before you say IMAP has no business being stored in an IMAP folder? i rest my case. -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Stedfast [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 9:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox Contact and Calendar data has no business being stored in an IMAP folder, IMAP is for mail. Moving contact and calendar data to the local addressbook/calendar has nothing to do with POP. Jeff On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 17:50, Matthew Western wrote: Local Folders - Inbox = Mail Messages Local Folders - Sent Items = Mail Messages Local Foldres - Calendar = Calendar View Local Folders - COntact = Contacts View All Above = Very Good IMAP Folders - Inbox = Mail messages IMAP Folders - Sent Items = Mail messages IMAP Folders - Calendar = Mail Messages IMAP Folders - Contacts = Mail Messages Sad. In Outlook2k, i say this folder is a Calendar folder and voila, it looks like a Calendar. In Evolution, i don't know how/don't know if i can/am wondering if it's on the todo list for developers Hope this explains... Do I want to drag and drop to my local folders? no i do not. that would defeat the purpose of having my IMAP mail on the server, i may as well use POP. Matthew -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Stedfast [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 8:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox What do you mean? Jeff On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 17:02, Matthew Western wrote: Any of you guys know how to change the view on folders? i have IMAP subsuscribed to Exchange server working nicely. I got Calendar/Contact but can't figure out how to change the view so it makes sense... it defaults to mail folders... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of NotZed Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: Jeffrey Stedfast Cc: Steve Arnold; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox It might be that 'filter new messages in inbox' is set on the imap account and there is a rule that moves messages ot the local inbox or something (although afaik it should use the remote inbox if nothing matches). IMAP doesn't download messages otherwise, they remain on the server. Unless you're using POP to access it, which is of course, not what you should be doing if you want to use IMAP. The mail *does* stay on the IMAP server, my last email explained that I thought... It sounds like you are using the Shortcut Bar, which you are free to delete shortcuts from and add new ones to... Just remove the Inbox icon and create a new one for your IMAP Inbox, tada! Jeff On Sun, 2001-11-18 at 20:08, Steve Arnold wrote: Jeffrey Stedfast writes: I'm not sure what you
RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox
Local Folders - Inbox = Mail Messages Local Folders - Sent Items = Mail Messages Local Foldres - Calendar = Calendar View Local Folders - COntact = Contacts View All Above = Very Good IMAP Folders - Inbox = Mail messages IMAP Folders - Sent Items = Mail messages IMAP Folders - Calendar = Mail Messages IMAP Folders - Contacts = Mail Messages Sad. In Outlook2k, i say this folder is a Calendar folder and voila, it looks like a Calendar. In Evolution, i don't know how/don't know if i can/am wondering if it's on the todo list for developers Hope this explains... Do I want to drag and drop to my local folders? no i do not. that would defeat the purpose of having my IMAP mail on the server, i may as well use POP. Matthew -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Stedfast [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 8:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox What do you mean? Jeff On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 17:02, Matthew Western wrote: Any of you guys know how to change the view on folders? i have IMAP subsuscribed to Exchange server working nicely. I got Calendar/Contact but can't figure out how to change the view so it makes sense... it defaults to mail folders... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of NotZed Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: Jeffrey Stedfast Cc: Steve Arnold; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox It might be that 'filter new messages in inbox' is set on the imap account and there is a rule that moves messages ot the local inbox or something (although afaik it should use the remote inbox if nothing matches). IMAP doesn't download messages otherwise, they remain on the server. Unless you're using POP to access it, which is of course, not what you should be doing if you want to use IMAP. The mail *does* stay on the IMAP server, my last email explained that I thought... It sounds like you are using the Shortcut Bar, which you are free to delete shortcuts from and add new ones to... Just remove the Inbox icon and create a new one for your IMAP Inbox, tada! Jeff On Sun, 2001-11-18 at 20:08, Steve Arnold wrote: Jeffrey Stedfast writes: I'm not sure what you are asking...? Evolution doesn't download IMAP mail into your local Inbox unless you setup filters to do so and also configure Evolution to filter your IMAP Inbox. Allow me to explain :) I'm trying to switch completely from windoze to Linux. Pegasus mail (and my huge mail archive) is one of the last things holding me there. I just setup the full courier mail suite on my local server, and finally got mail routing through my firewall (boy what a PITA *that* was). I played with netscape and mozilla mail with a couple of IMAP accounts on the server, created some mail folders, filters, etc (now that mail is flowing nicely). When I first fired up evolution, it brought a bunch of messages into it's own local inbox (the one that shows in the button panel along the left side). In the folder list, I see both sets of folders, ie, the (apparently) primary folders, and the folders for my main IMAP account on the server. Questions: I want mail to stay in my IMAP folders, in fact, I'd rather not even see the default folders. How do I do that? If I can't get rid of them, can I make the big Inbox button go to my IMAP inbox? I hope that makes at least a little sense :-) Thanks in advance, Steve ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox
It might be that 'filter new messages in inbox' is set on the imap account and there is a rule that moves messages ot the local inbox or something (although afaik it should use the remote inbox if nothing matches). IMAP doesn't download messages otherwise, they remain on the server. Unless you're using POP to access it, which is of course, not what you should be doing if you want to use IMAP. The mail *does* stay on the IMAP server, my last email explained that I thought... It sounds like you are using the Shortcut Bar, which you are free to delete shortcuts from and add new ones to... Just remove the Inbox icon and create a new one for your IMAP Inbox, tada! Jeff On Sun, 2001-11-18 at 20:08, Steve Arnold wrote: Jeffrey Stedfast writes: I'm not sure what you are asking...? Evolution doesn't download IMAP mail into your local Inbox unless you setup filters to do so and also configure Evolution to filter your IMAP Inbox. Allow me to explain :) I'm trying to switch completely from windoze to Linux. Pegasus mail (and my huge mail archive) is one of the last things holding me there. I just setup the full courier mail suite on my local server, and finally got mail routing through my firewall (boy what a PITA *that* was). I played with netscape and mozilla mail with a couple of IMAP accounts on the server, created some mail folders, filters, etc (now that mail is flowing nicely). When I first fired up evolution, it brought a bunch of messages into it's own local inbox (the one that shows in the button panel along the left side). In the folder list, I see both sets of folders, ie, the (apparently) primary folders, and the folders for my main IMAP account on the server. Questions: I want mail to stay in my IMAP folders, in fact, I'd rather not even see the default folders. How do I do that? If I can't get rid of them, can I make the big Inbox button go to my IMAP inbox? I hope that makes at least a little sense :-) Thanks in advance, Steve ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
RE: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox
IMAP just doesn't do calendar and addressbook. I know, when you connect to the Exchange server via IMAP, you get a folder called Contacts that has some stuff in it, and another folder called Calendar that has some stuff in it, and it looks like if you could just get Evolution to play around, you could see the rest of the data and have it all just work. But you can't. IMAP doesn't do calendar and addressbook. The rest of the data isn't available via the IMAP server. What You See Is All You Get. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox
The mail *does* stay on the IMAP server, my last email explained that I thought... It sounds like you are using the Shortcut Bar, which you are free to delete shortcuts from and add new ones to... Just remove the Inbox icon and create a new one for your IMAP Inbox, tada! Jeff On Sun, 2001-11-18 at 20:08, Steve Arnold wrote: Jeffrey Stedfast writes: I'm not sure what you are asking...? Evolution doesn't download IMAP mail into your local Inbox unless you setup filters to do so and also configure Evolution to filter your IMAP Inbox. Allow me to explain :) I'm trying to switch completely from windoze to Linux. Pegasus mail (and my huge mail archive) is one of the last things holding me there. I just setup the full courier mail suite on my local server, and finally got mail routing through my firewall (boy what a PITA *that* was). I played with netscape and mozilla mail with a couple of IMAP accounts on the server, created some mail folders, filters, etc (now that mail is flowing nicely). When I first fired up evolution, it brought a bunch of messages into it's own local inbox (the one that shows in the button panel along the left side). In the folder list, I see both sets of folders, ie, the (apparently) primary folders, and the folders for my main IMAP account on the server. Questions: I want mail to stay in my IMAP folders, in fact, I'd rather not even see the default folders. How do I do that? If I can't get rid of them, can I make the big Inbox button go to my IMAP inbox? I hope that makes at least a little sense :-) Thanks in advance, Steve ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Re: local inbox vs. IMAP inbox
Hi Steve - When I first fired up evolution, it brought a bunch of messages into it's own local inbox (the one that shows in the button panel along the left side). In the folder list, I see both sets of folders, ie, the (apparently) primary folders, and the folders for my main IMAP account on the server. I recently did something similar (courier on local server). I like having all my mail in IMAP so I can use it from any client (e.g., when an Evolution build breaks I can still use Mozilla :-)) It sounds like you may be using Evolution to fetch your mail. I think you might prefer using fetchmail on the *server* to get your mail, instead of having Evolution do it on your workstation. Presumably your server is up 24/7, so you can have fetchmail periodically check for mail. You still want to keep all your accounts defined in Evolution so you can use them to send mail, but in mail settings you disable them so that Evolution does not fetch the mail from those accounts. The only one you keep enabled is the local IMAP server account. In addition, if you like, use maildrop or procmail to filter it to the correct folders. This is preferable to using a mail client's filtering because, just like IMAP, it's centralzed and does not have to be set up for each e-mail client. Using fetchmail and (in my case) maildrop, when I start up Evolution after coming home from work I have all my mail ready and waiting in the proper folders. Now, what I think would be *really* cool is a standard way of defining mail accounts that all/most mail clients understand. That way you could store your mail account definitions on a server, and when you try new mail clients you don't have to go through the drudgery of setting up a bunch of accounts each time. :-) ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
