Re: [Evolution] Error while fetching mail
On Mon, 2012-06-11 at 20:26 -0700, Per Magne Knutsen wrote: I recently upgraded to Evolution 3.2.3 from Evolution 2.x following an upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04. In the previous version, when I pressed Send or Ctrl+Enter the Compose Message would neatly close and the message send in the background. Now, the Compose window remains open with a Sending message header. This is inconvenient when composing and sending many messages. Is there a way to still make Evolution close the Compose window and send the message in the background? In my youth, when I started using mailing lists and news groups and bulletin boards it was beaten into me by various list residents to (a) use correct subject lines and (b) search list archives to see if my question had been answered before. See the thread from a couple of weeks ago starting at: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2012-May/msg00164.html and more specifically the answer from Matthew Barnes at: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2012-May/msg00166.html I don't really see what is inconvenient about having the composer window open while the mail is sending - it's not as if it blocks anything and it doesn't stop you from composing any other mails. It's just another window open in the background. Since it seems to be only Ubuntu users grouching about it, perhaps there's some design feature in Unity or whatever that makes the presence of the window much more of an inconvenience - and if so, then that's an Ubuntu issue, not an Evolution one. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] jumping to next unread mail
Hello, I have my mails in the INBOX in the so called thread-view; sometimes I get a new mail to a (very) old thread and the new mail is correctly sorted in, but only visible if I now scroll up in the INBOX window containing all mails as one line (Subject/From/Date). Is there a jump key which brings me directly to the next unread mail (like in mutt with TAB)? Thanks in advance. This is with Evo 2.32.3 if it does matter. matthias -- Matthias Apitz e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] jumping to next unread mail
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 11:50 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I have my mails in the INBOX in the so called thread-view; sometimes I get a new mail to a (very) old thread and the new mail is correctly sorted in, but only visible if I now scroll up in the INBOX window containing all mails as one line (Subject/From/Date). Is there a jump key which brings me directly to the next unread mail (like in mutt with TAB)? Thanks in advance. Isn't that what the magic space bar does? http://library.gnome.org/users/evolution/3.1/usage-mail-getnsend-read.html.en Also Ctrl-] goes to the next unread message in any view - or when focused on the list pane a '.' or ']'. Also, if you sort by date, the position of the thread in the list is determined by the date of the last message, so if you get a new message in an old thread, the thread will be displayed at bottom. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] jumping to next unread mail
Space bar ? Xav On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 11:50 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I have my mails in the INBOX in the so called thread-view; sometimes I get a new mail to a (very) old thread and the new mail is correctly sorted in, but only visible if I now scroll up in the INBOX window containing all mails as one line (Subject/From/Date). Is there a jump key which brings me directly to the next unread mail (like in mutt with TAB)? Thanks in advance. This is with Evo 2.32.3 if it does matter. matthias ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Error while fetching mail
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 10:41 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: On Mon, 2012-06-11 at 20:26 -0700, Per Magne Knutsen wrote: and more specifically the answer from Matthew Barnes at https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2012-May/msg00166.html I don't really see what is inconvenient about having the composer window open while the mail is sending - it's not as if it blocks anything and it doesn't stop you from composing any other mails. And you get a momentary Cancel button, which can be handy. It did annoy me a bit at first, but it remains open only momentarily, and I've gotten used to it. Plus, as indicated at msg00166, it represents a real improvement in Evolution's technique. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution 3.4.2 problems
I just upgraded to Fedora 17 from Fedora 14 by doing a fresh install. I kept my home directory including .local where evolution stores things. I am also running Fedora 15 on another machine with evolution 3.0.3. I am having some problems with the new evolution. 1. When I choose Send/Receive, it takes it quite a while to upload my messages from my mail server. (I checked the evolution preferences against the 3.0.3 version and they are unchanged.) 2. Various local folders have disappeared in the new versions to be replaced by folders of the form name_sbd which are all empty. Can someone direct me to documentation to help me understand the changes? Also, how can I speed up the loading and also find the folders which still exist in .local/share/evolution/mail/local I am not having any problems with evolution 3.0.3 under Fedora 15. -- Leonard Evens l...@math.northwestern.edu Professor Emeritus, Department of Mathematics, Northwestern University ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.4.2 problems
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 13:08 -0500, Leonard Evens wrote: I just upgraded to Fedora 17 from Fedora 14 by doing a fresh install. I kept my home directory including .local where evolution stores things. I am also running Fedora 15 on another machine with evolution 3.0.3. I am having some problems with the new evolution. 1. When I choose Send/Receive, it takes it quite a while to upload my messages from my mail server. (I checked the evolution preferences against the 3.0.3 version and they are unchanged.) 2. Various local folders have disappeared in the new versions to be replaced by folders of the form name_sbd which are all empty. Can someone direct me to documentation to help me understand the changes? Also, how can I speed up the loading and also find the folders which still exist in .local/share/evolution/mail/local I am not having any problems with evolution 3.0.3 under Fedora 15. I should also mention that when I send a message I get an error message about post processing and telling me it put the message in my local sent folder, which is where it was put before anyway, but without the error message. -- Leonard Evens l...@math.northwestern.edu Professor Emeritus, Department of Mathematics, Northwestern University ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.4.2 problems
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 13:11 -0500, Leonard Evens wrote: On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 13:08 -0500, Leonard Evens wrote: I just upgraded to Fedora 17 from Fedora 14 by doing a fresh install. I kept my home directory including .local where evolution stores things. I am also running Fedora 15 on another machine with evolution 3.0.3. I am having some problems with the new evolution. 1. When I choose Send/Receive, it takes it quite a while to upload my messages from my mail server. (I checked the evolution preferences against the 3.0.3 version and they are unchanged.) 2. Various local folders have disappeared in the new versions to be replaced by folders of the form name_sbd which are all empty. Can someone direct me to documentation to help me understand the changes? Also, how can I speed up the loading and also find the folders which still exist in .local/share/evolution/mail/local I am not having any problems with evolution 3.0.3 under Fedora 15. I should also mention that when I send a message I get an error message about post processing and telling me it put the message in my local sent folder, which is where it was put before anyway, but without the error message. I thought I was making progress, but I made things worse. I had one Folder Inbox which showed things I had recently put there. I tried to create folders with the old names without the _sbd, and when I did so, at first, those folders showed up with the proper contents. But as I continue to do so, the contents didn't show up and the contents of the other folders disappeared. The folders still exist in .local/share/evolution/mail/local but evolution can't see them any longer. Help! How to I get all this to work again? -- Leonard Evens l...@math.northwestern.edu Professor Emeritus, Department of Mathematics, Northwestern University ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.4.2 problems
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 13:08 -0500, Leonard Evens wrote: I just upgraded to Fedora 17 from Fedora 14 by doing a fresh install. I kept my home directory including .local where evolution stores things. I am also running Fedora 15 on another machine with evolution 3.0.3. Are you sharing your home directory between these two machines? Like an NFS partition or something? 2. Various local folders have disappeared in the new versions to be replaced by folders of the form name_sbd which are all empty. Evolution 3.0 changed its local mail storage format from mbox to Maildir. The first time you started Evolution after upgrading you should have been prompted about the format change and had to click OK to proceed with the conversion. Did that happen? I ask because sbd is a file extension used only by Evolution's mbox backend, which implies something went wrong with the migration, or it didn't happen at all. The migration should have also left behind an account in your folder tree named local_mbox, which is a backup archive of your Evolution 2.x mbox folders. For the error message you're getting after sending, just go into your account settings (Defaults tab) and reselect your Sent folder. That should prevent future error messages. That was an oversight on our part which unfortunately slipped into the stable release. Matthew Barnes ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Error while fetching mail
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org wrote: On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 10:41 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: On Mon, 2012-06-11 at 20:26 -0700, Per Magne Knutsen wrote: and more specifically the answer from Matthew Barnes at https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2012-May/msg00166.html I don't really see what is inconvenient about having the composer window open while the mail is sending - it's not as if it blocks anything and it doesn't stop you from composing any other mails. And you get a momentary Cancel button, which can be handy. It did annoy me a bit at first, but it remains open only momentarily, and I've gotten used to it. Plus, as indicated at msg00166, it represents a real improvement in Evolution's technique. Thanks for both answers. My apologies for sending out the query with the wrong Subject. I started writing my message with a different error in mind. Also, sorry for not finding your links in my search. Clearly, I'll have to be more careful next time posting. The post by Matthew Barnes you linked to was particularly helpful, as it explains the rationale for the synchronous send feature (i.e. not depending on a full Evolution session to launch to send a message when e.g. clicking a mailto: link). That made sense, and its probably the way it ought to be, taking into account the Composer habits of most users. Its clear to me that the developers have carefully considered their options and clearly improved Evolution. In my youth (whatever that means), I have been beaten by how often respondents respond to a post by downplaying the reported issue, when in fact the issue was already reported to be a hindrance to the original poster. See, for me the synchrounous send feature does in fact take a hit on my productivity. I don't send an occasional email every hour or so; at peak, I may find myself answering hundreds of messages a day. The Sending... message in my case appears for 5 seconds or more before the email is confirmed Sent. Multiply worst case with worst case scenario and the minutes add up. Although I can return to Evolution to compose a new message, this involves 1-2 more mouse clicks. This is not a major issue. Evolution is great as-is. The new Composer behavior is just a minor annoyance, although it comes with a benefit too. Matthew Barnes suggested in his post to add a Send Later option (preferably available with a Ctrl+?? keystroke) that would place the message in the Outbox until the next Send. I think that's a good idea, as I can see how it would improve the workflow when editing a large number of message, as in my case. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.4.2 problems
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 14:58 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 13:08 -0500, Leonard Evens wrote: I just upgraded to Fedora 17 from Fedora 14 by doing a fresh install. I kept my home directory including .local where evolution stores things. I am also running Fedora 15 on another machine with evolution 3.0.3. Are you sharing your home directory between these two machines? Like an NFS partition or something? No. 2. Various local folders have disappeared in the new versions to be replaced by folders of the form name_sbd which are all empty. Evolution 3.0 changed its local mail storage format from mbox to Maildir. The first time you started Evolution after upgrading you should have been prompted about the format change and had to click OK to proceed with the conversion. Did that happen? I don't remember that happening, but I could be wrong abou it. I ask because sbd is a file extension used only by Evolution's mbox backend, which implies something went wrong with the migration, or it didn't happen at all. The migration should have also left behind an account in your folder tree named local_mbox, which is a backup archive of your Evolution 2.x mbox folders. Assuming something went wrong with the conversion, how do I go about fixing it? For the error message you're getting after sending, just go into your account settings (Defaults tab) and reselect your Sent folder. That should prevent future error messages. That was an oversight on our part which unfortunately slipped into the stable release. Matthew Barnes -- Leonard Evens l...@math.northwestern.edu Professor Emeritus, Department of Mathematics, Northwestern University ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.4.2 problems
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 14:58 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 13:08 -0500, Leonard Evens wrote: I just upgraded to Fedora 17 from Fedora 14 by doing a fresh install. I kept my home directory including .local where evolution stores things. I am also running Fedora 15 on another machine with evolution 3.0.3. Are you sharing your home directory between these two machines? Like an NFS partition or something? No. 2. Various local folders have disappeared in the new versions to be replaced by folders of the form name_sbd which are all empty. Evolution 3.0 changed its local mail storage format from mbox to Maildir. The first time you started Evolution after upgrading you should have been prompted about the format change and had to click OK to proceed with the conversion. Did that happen? I don't remember that happening, but I could be wrong abou it. I ask because sbd is a file extension used only by Evolution's mbox backend, which implies something went wrong with the migration, or it didn't happen at all. The migration should have also left behind an account in your folder tree named local_mbox, which is a backup archive of your Evolution 2.x mbox folders. Assuming something went wrong with the conversion, how do I go about fixing it? For the error message you're getting after sending, just go into your account settings (Defaults tab) and reselect your Sent folder. That should prevent future error messages. That was an oversight on our part which unfortunately slipped into the stable release. I can go into the account settings and reselect the Sent foldeer to be my local one, but Apply remains grayed out, so the change doesn't get saved. Also, Once I've read a message and replied to it, it seems to get lost. Something seems really messed up with my evolution files. What can i do to fix things? Matthew Barnes -- Leonard Evens l...@math.northwestern.edu Professor Emeritus, Department of Mathematics, Northwestern University ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] My problems with evolution 3.4.2.
Might it be possible to start from scratch with a new version of evolution and set it up again to do what necessary and also to see my old evolution local folders? What else can i do to fix things? -- Leonard Evens l...@math.northwestern.edu Professor Emeritus, Department of Mathematics, Northwestern University ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] More help fixing my evolution 3.4.2 under Fedora 17.
Perhaps I could make some progress getting evolution too work properly if I could get some information about evolution organizes its files. For example, I find that the files appearing in my current local folders appear as dot files in .local/share/evolution/mail/local Is that how things are supposed to be organized? -- Leonard Evens l...@math.northwestern.edu Professor Emeritus, Department of Mathematics, Northwestern University ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.4.2 problems
Am Dienstag, den 12.06.2012, 15:00 -0500 schrieb Leonard Evens: On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 14:58 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 13:08 -0500, Leonard Evens wrote: I just upgraded to Fedora 17 from Fedora 14 by doing a fresh install. What do you mean by fresh install? I kept my home directory including .local where evolution stores things. I am also running Fedora 15 on another machine with evolution 3.0.3. What version of evolution was running on your machine before upgrade? Do you have a backup of your evolution folders? You need to give a clear, concise description of what you did. Otherwise it's tough to help you without access to your machine. -- thomas ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
