Re: [Evolution] Evolution doesn't quit cleanly other issues

2013-02-24 Thread RSV-RR
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 20:00:10 +0100
Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On Sat, 2013-02-23 at 13:49 -0500, RSV-RR wrote:
  running Evolution 3.6.2, and for some reason I am having the following
  issues:
  
  -   Application doesn't quit cleanly.  It hangs and has to be
killed.
 
 Always? And could you try 3.6.3, the latest bugfix release? (Might
 require asking your distribution to ship it.)
 If it hangs, running in gdb might be interesting. Also see
 https://live.gnome.org/GettingTraces/Details#Obtaining_a_stack_trace_using_GDB
 
  -   Messages that I try to delete get a line through them but
are not moved out of the inbox message list. This is probably a
configuration issue.  Shouldn't messages be put into the Delete
folder?
 
 Please see
 http://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/3.6/mail-delete-and-undelete.html
 
  -   Question...how do I update passwords to message
servers.  Should I be prompted or can I store that in the
configuration.
 
 I'm afraid I don't understand the question. If you have stored your
 password in Evolution so you don't have to reenter it all the time in
 Evolution, and if you have changed your account password on your mail
 server, then Evolution will prompt you for entering the password, simply
 because Evolution receives a bad password answer from your email
 server.
 
 andre
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Still having trouble pulling email from the POP server account.  Not
sure how to turn on logging, or if it's continuous, where it resides.

Also, Evo hangs whenever I try to exit. guess that would be captured in
the log, too.

Thx

RSV
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Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution doesn't quit cleanly other issues]

2013-02-24 Thread Pete Biggs
On Sun, 2013-02-24 at 14:35 -0500, reid wrote:
 found some hints on debugging on Gnome Evo page.  Captured this (not
 sure how useful it is):
 
  evolution CAMEL_DEBUG=all

No, it should be

  CAMEL_DEBUG=all evolution

More information on traces and so on is at:

  http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/bugs.shtml

P.


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Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution doesn't quit cleanly other issues]

2013-02-24 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Sunday, February 24, 2013 a las 08:47:34PM +, Pete Biggs escribió:

 On Sun, 2013-02-24 at 14:35 -0500, reid wrote:
  found some hints on debugging on Gnome Evo page.  Captured this (not
  sure how useful it is):
  
   evolution CAMEL_DEBUG=all
 
 No, it should be
 
   CAMEL_DEBUG=all evolution

What would be the diff:

[guru@tiny ~]$ CAMEL_DEBUG=all env | fgrep CAM
CAMEL_DEBUG=all
[guru@tiny ~]$ env CAMEL_DEBUG=all | fgrep CAM
CAMEL_DEBUG=all

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Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution doesn't quit cleanly other issues]

2013-02-24 Thread Pete Biggs

   
evolution CAMEL_DEBUG=all
  
  No, it should be
  
CAMEL_DEBUG=all evolution
 
 What would be the diff:
 
 [guru@tiny ~]$ CAMEL_DEBUG=all env | fgrep CAM
 CAMEL_DEBUG=all
 [guru@tiny ~]$ env CAMEL_DEBUG=all | fgrep CAM
 CAMEL_DEBUG=all

What does env do?  To quote 'man env':

   env - run a program in a modified environment

and without a program to run, it prints the environment variables.  So
the first version sets the variable and then runs the program
'env' (which prints out the environment); with the second version the
variable is set *by the program* and then it prints out the environment.
Setting the variable the second way is not a generic thing, it is unique
to the program 'env'.  It happens that both forms, in this case, have
the same result.

Generically, in a command such as:

  evolution CAMEL_DEBUG=all

the 'CAMEL_DEBUG=all' is an argument to the command and is passed to the
program in that way.  It does not set an environment variable.  In fact,
since the argument doesn't start with a '-' (i.e. is an option), then
evolution interprets it at as a URI to act on, which it can't
understand, and hence the first line of the output is:

 (evolution:3766): evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot import any of the
 given URIs

P.



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Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution doesn't quit cleanly other issues]

2013-02-24 Thread Paul Smith
On Sun, 2013-02-24 at 21:08 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
  What would be the diff:
  
  [guru@tiny ~]$ CAMEL_DEBUG=all env | fgrep CAM
  CAMEL_DEBUG=all
  [guru@tiny ~]$ env CAMEL_DEBUG=all | fgrep CAM
  CAMEL_DEBUG=all

As Pete points out, your use of env is misleading you.

Compare these (closer to what you're really doing):

  ~$ env | grep CAMEL_DEBUG

  ~$ CAMEL_DEBUG=all sh -c 'echo CAMEL_DEBUG=$CAMEL_DEBUG'
  CAMEL_DEBUG=all

  ~$ sh -c 'echo CAMEL_DEBUG=$CAMEL_DEBUG' CAMEL_DEBUG=all
  CAMEL_DEBUG=


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution composer text wrap width

2013-02-24 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Donnerstag, den 21.02.2013, 17:23 -0700 schrieb Zan Lynx: 
 In plain text mode, the Evolution mail composer seems to have a width
 limit much smaller than 72 which is where I think it is supposed to be.
 This email is probably (I hope) an example of what I mean.
 
 Look at the following line in the attached screenshot:
 
 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6
here it's 2x36 ! 
 7 8 9 0
 
 It is wrapped at 56 characters.
 
 Is this now a setting instead of hard-coded? Did mine get changed
 somehow?
 
 I am looking to fix this because it is quite annoying  when responding
 to email. Evolution tries to wrap the quoted lines much shorter than
 they should be resulting in lines that only contain one or two words.
 
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Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution doesn't quit cleanly other issues]

2013-02-24 Thread reid
On Sun, 2013-02-24 at 16:33 -0500, Paul Smith wrote:
 On Sun, 2013-02-24 at 21:08 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
   What would be the diff:
   
   [guru@tiny ~]$ CAMEL_DEBUG=all env | fgrep CAM
   CAMEL_DEBUG=all
   [guru@tiny ~]$ env CAMEL_DEBUG=all | fgrep CAM
   CAMEL_DEBUG=all
 
 As Pete points out, your use of env is misleading you.
 
 Compare these (closer to what you're really doing):
 
   ~$ env | grep CAMEL_DEBUG
 
   ~$ CAMEL_DEBUG=all sh -c 'echo CAMEL_DEBUG=$CAMEL_DEBUG'
   CAMEL_DEBUG=all
 
   ~$ sh -c 'echo CAMEL_DEBUG=$CAMEL_DEBUG' CAMEL_DEBUG=all
   CAMEL_DEBUG=
 
 
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Well - thx very much to all of you for your really speedy and helpful
responses.  seriously.  Once I got the command-line squared away it spit
out LOTS of great stuff AND Evo starting working as it should; pulled
mail and quit successfully.   Not to be crude, but it was as though it
was constipated and then finally, ahem... cleared itself.  Can send it,
but it's now working I doubt there's much to see.  But now I know the
right commands if it happens. 

much obliged.  Thought's welcome if you want to share.

RSV

  

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution composer text wrap width

2013-02-24 Thread Zan Lynx
On 2/24/2013 3:53 PM, Thomas Prost wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, den 21.02.2013, 17:23 -0700 schrieb Zan Lynx: 
 In plain text mode, the Evolution mail composer seems to have a width
 limit much smaller than 72 which is where I think it is supposed to be.
 This email is probably (I hope) an example of what I mean.

 Look at the following line in the attached screenshot:

 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6
 here it's 2x36 ! 

Reading back my email I realize it was not as clear as it could have been.

And I should have included the version of Evolution. It is the version
shipped with Fedora 18 which is version 3.6.3 plus a couple of patches
that don't seem to be related.

The actual email sent is wrapped at 72 characters. Exactly 2x36 as you say.

But in the composer window, as you can see in the screenshot that I
attached, the message is wrapped at 56 characters.

That makes it difficult to see what the message will look like when sent
because What You See Is Not What You Get (WYSINWYG).

It doesn't appear to have any relation to the size of the composer
window because making the window much wider doesn't change the wrapping.




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