Re: [Evolution] how to start over
On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 18:42 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: I installed and started evolution. After messing up my first e-mail account, I tried to fix it, but couldn't find any way to change it. I tried to start over with rm -r ~/.evolution , but that did not work either. Somewhere it found the information to recreate ~/.evolution . I've got an evolution folder/identity/whatever with the right name that doesn't work. It's inert. How do I start over? https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/3.6/data-storage.html (also available via Help Contents in Evolution itself) explains where data is stored. Note that the content refers to Evolution 3.6. If you really still use and have ~/.evolution you might run an ancient version = 2.30? andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] how to start over
On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 18:42 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: I installed and started evolution. As others have said, you need to give us the Evolution version you are using. After messing up my first e-mail account, I tried to fix it, but couldn't find any way to change it. Edit - Preferences allows you to modify and delete mail accounts in virtually all versions of Evolution. I'm confused as to why that's difficult to find, it's not an obscure place, most Gnome applications have some form of configuration settings item under Edit and there's an item under Help - Contents (F1) called Account Management. I tried to start over with rm -r ~/.evolution , but that did not work either. Playing with an application's private storage is never a good idea (for any application) unless you really, really know what you are doing. At best it's going to leave the application in an unstable state, and it will almost certainly make things much more confusing later on. I'm trying to connect to a cableone.net account. Did you follow the instructions at: http://support.cableone.net/app/answers/detail/a_id/1055 (I'm not a cableone.net customer, I found that with about 10 seconds of Googling. It's a gmail based account, so it's not exactly a bizarre setup.) P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] how to start over
On Tue, 2013-05-07 at 09:35 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 18:42 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: I installed and started evolution As others have said, you need to give us the Evolution version you are using. After messing up my first e-mail account, I tried to fix it, but couldn't find any way to change it. Edit - Preferences allows you to modify and delete mail accounts in virtually all versions of Evolution. I'm confused as to why that's difficult to find, it's not an obscure place, most Gnome applications have some form of configuration settings item under Edit and there's an item under Help - Contents (F1) called Account Management. +1 +1 +1 +1 WHY THE CONSTANT SNEAKING AROUND UNDERNEATH THE APPLICATION?? IF YOU DO THAT AND THE APPLICATION BREAKS IT IS YOUR FAULT, AND **NOT** THE FAULT OF THE APPLICATION. To add, remove, change a mail account I have never in ten plus years [when did Evolution first come out?] had to do ANYTHING but configure it IN EVOLUTION USING ACCOUNTS SETUP! I tried to start over with rm -r ~/.evolution , but that did not work either. Playing with an application's private storage is never a good idea +1 And it is pointless when the application provides working tools to do it. (for any application) unless you really, really know what you are doing. And then you'll probably know better than to try. At best it's going to leave the application in an unstable state, Yes, and then the user can blame the application for being unstable and their complaint will be logged in the cloud as a blemish on the innocent application in perpetuity. People will be repeating the unjustified complaint on Slashdot for decades. -- Adam Tauno Williams mailto:awill...@whitemice.org GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] how to start over
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.orgwrote: +1 +1 +1 +1 WHY THE CONSTANT SNEAKING AROUND UNDERNEATH THE APPLICATION?? IF YOU DO THAT AND THE APPLICATION BREAKS IT IS YOUR FAULT, AND **NOT** THE FAULT OF THE APPLICATION. To add, remove, change a mail account I have never in ten plus years [when did Evolution first come out?] had to do ANYTHING but configure it IN EVOLUTION USING ACCOUNTS SETUP! Because for the 20 years of Unix before that, there was a human readable and editable dot-config file. And there was a directory or file of data, again human readable. Evolution is more like a Windows program than Unix software. I have to wonder what the authors were thinking. Why Evolution and other programs like it have to be sneaking around and making their configuration unreadable and uneditable, I don't understand. And think of this: When confronted with hundreds of menus and submenus it is often MUCH easier to just go to the configuration file in VI, search for the configuration item and change it. Or in the case of a program like Firefox, about:config. Or say that you've changed your email address. In Unix-world you could grep oldem...@example.com .??* and find everywhere it needs to be changed. I suppose in Evolution world the poor sap would be required to go into each program's menu MANUALLY and suffer through whatever GUI happens to be there. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] how to start over
On Tue, 2013-05-07 at 10:02 -0600, Zan Lynx wrote: Evolution is more like a Windows program than Unix software. I have to wonder what the authors were thinking. Why Evolution and other programs like it have to be sneaking around and making their configuration unreadable and uneditable, I don't understand. I don't know what you're basing your opinion on, but you're way off base. If you've been paying attention, you already know that we've made great strides toward making Evolution's configuration far more readable and easier to back up and copy than ever before. See for example the opening section of https://live.gnome.org/Evolution/ESourceMigrationGuide Matthew Barnes (hoping to douse the troll before the flames get out of hand) ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] how to start over
(hoping to douse the troll before the flames get out of hand) Aww. You're no fun at all. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Unable to open address book
Dear List, I started using Linux Mint 14 after being a Fedora user for many years. I backed up my data and settings using the Backup Menu item (File Backup Evolution Data...) on my Fedora 18 laptop and used the backup file whilst setting up Evolution on my Desktop where I installed Linux Mint 14. When switching to the Contacts view I get an error message with the following details: Unable to open address book This address book cannot be opened. Please check that the path /home/gavin/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system-address-book exists and that permissions are set to access it. Detailed error message: Cannot open book: db error 0x8703 (DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery) When restoring from the Evolution backup it created: $ ls -l ~/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system total 10352 -rw-r--r-- 1 gavin gavin69632 Apr 15 10:46 addressbook.db -rw-r--r-- 1 gavin gavin 5549 Dec 15 2011 addressbook.db.summary -rw-r--r-- 1 gavin gavin29696 Apr 15 10:46 contacts.db -rw-r- 1 gavin gavin 10485760 Apr 29 23:23 log.01 drwx-- 2 gavin gavin 4096 Feb 11 21:42 photos but Evolution seems to want ~/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system-address-book. So I shutdown Evolution, killed the address book background process and copied ~/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system to ~/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system-address-book and restarted my system. Unfortunately that did not solve the problem. In Linux Mint 14 I am running Evolution 3.6.2. Anyone have suggestions as to what to try next so I can fix this problem? All the best, Gavin -- Gavin Simpson, PhD [t] +1 306 337 8863 Adjunct Professor, Department of Biology[f] +1 306 337 2410 Institute of Environmental Change Society [e] gavin.simp...@uregina.ca 523 Research and Innovation Centre [tw] @ucfagls University of Regina Regina, SK S4S 0A2, Canada ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] infinitive wait for network events
On 05/06/2013 05:51 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: For many releases, including the latest in Fedora 18 Please give version numbers for Evolution, not the distro you use - not everyone uses the same distro so they don't know which versions you are talking about. F18 is 3.6.4 I've noticing that evolution does not handle network delays properly. It will spin in wait state indefinitely. Please see included screenshot. I wonder how to diagnose and prevent infinitive waits. The only way to end the process is to to brute force kill signals. This has been talked about before on this list. Yes, it is a known issue, but I seem to remember that the solution requires some other work to be done first. My experience of the issue is that many of the problems stem from looking up contacts on a remote service (so that Evo can decide if it's going to try and display images from the network) - it's not the LDAP code itself that's the problem, more the type of traffic that LDAP generates. So try enabling Never load images from the Internet (you can always explicitly load them with Ctrl-I) to see if it makes it any better. If it is a well known problem I am surprised it is not yet fixed. Not sure about LDAP but load images is not enabled. Regardless, if any network operation takes more then reasonable time it should either abort itself or allow user to abort it. I this case clicking on the red circle next to stuck network operation does not make any effect on the stuck network operation! Several releases ago clicking on the red circle always terminated stuck network operation. Main reason I started this thread is to seek diagnostic help as I clearly stated in my question. I apologize if inline attachment caused problems. I've been using evolution since early betas and the only reason I still on it because sometimes I must use redirect feature that is missing in thunderbird. But amount of daily problems caused by unhanded timeouts and other glitches makes me question myself if fighting constant issues really worth the trouble Eugene. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] infinitive wait for network events
On Tue, 2013-05-07 at 21:51 -0400, Eugene wrote: On 05/06/2013 05:51 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: For many releases, including the latest in Fedora 18 Please give version numbers for Evolution, not the distro you use - not everyone uses the same distro so they don't know which versions you are talking about. F18 is 3.6.4 I've noticing that evolution does not handle network delays properly. It will spin in wait state indefinitely. Please see included screenshot. I wonder how to diagnose and prevent infinitive waits. The only way to end the process is to to brute force kill signals. This has been talked about before on this list. Yes, it is a known issue, but I seem to remember that the solution requires some other work to be done first. My experience of the issue is that many of the problems stem from looking up contacts on a remote service (so that Evo can decide if it's going to try and display images from the network) - it's not the LDAP code itself that's the problem, more the type of traffic that LDAP generates. So try enabling Never load images from the Internet (you can always explicitly load them with Ctrl-I) to see if it makes it any better. If it is a well known problem I am surprised it is not yet fixed. I believe it is fixed, but not on your version [which is not the current version]. 3.6.x certainly had some connection management issues, at least with HTML messages, and especially behind a proxy server. I have not need these issues on 3.8.x. Not sure about LDAP but load images is not enabled. I do not recall ever seeing connection issues regarding LDAP. Regardless, if any network operation takes more then reasonable time it should either abort itself or allow user to abort it. Agree. Main reason I started this thread is to seek diagnostic help as I clearly stated in my question. I apologize if inline attachment caused problems. It didn't cause any problems, and was fine by me. There are just some people here you are grumpy about attachments [although they use an excellent mail client that handles them gracefully ;) ]. I've been using evolution since early betas and the only reason I still on it because sometimes I must use redirect feature that is missing in thunderbird. But amount of daily problems caused by unhanded timeouts and other glitches makes me question myself if fighting constant issues really worth the trouble If you see constant connection issues and loading of messages for HTML messages is disabled... I suspect there might be something else wrong in addition. It was annoying in 3.6.x, but certainly not debilitating. Any chance there is an overloaded NAT involved that is prematurely terminating your connections? [Die NAT Die! All hail IPv6, our deliverer!] Have your tried running with CAMEL_DEBUG enabled and see if that enlightens you about anything https://live.gnome.org/Evolution/Debugging? But, seriously, 3.8.x is a *MUCH* better Evolution. 3.6.x Evolution and GNOME were pretty good. 3.8.x is excellent and very solid. I know nothing about Fedora [at this point you would have to drag me away from openSUSE in chains - it just @*$*@^* WORKS!] but certainly they provide some reasonable way to update to the latest * * *STABLE* * * version of GNOME. Did I mention that 3.8.x is the current * * *STABLE* * * version of GNOME. If I didn't, I should have. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] infinitive wait for network events
On Tue, 2013-05-07 at 22:24 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: But, seriously, 3.8.x is a *MUCH* better Evolution. 3.6.x Evolution and GNOME were pretty good. 3.8.x is excellent and very solid. I know nothing about Fedora The current release of Fedora (F18) supports Evo 3.6. F19 will support Evo 3.8 when it comes out in the next month or two. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
