Re: [Evolution] Debugging automatic filter application

[Milan Crha]

On Thu, 2017-02-16 at 13:11 -0800, Aditya Prasad wrote:
> Same filters. They work manually, but nothing runs automatically.

Hi,
I think there had been done something about this between yours 3.18.5.2
and the current stable (3.22.5), but I cannot find it, thus I can be
wrong. The thing is that POP messages are always processed through
incoming filters, thus this sounds like a bug, but my filter made as
"Sender contains xxx, then move to yyy" works properly for my POP
account.
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Debugging automatic filter application

[Aditya Prasad]

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 12:44 AM, Milan Crha  wrote:

> On Mon, 2017-02-13 at 23:51 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Mon, 2017-02-13 at 15:16 -0800, Aditya Prasad wrote:
> > > * I tried the mail filters-log-actions and found I only get output
> > > when
> > > manually applying filters.
> >
> > (This is very old information so may not still be valid, but
> > I've used it in the past)
> >
> > There are a couple of Gconf settings to enable filter logging:
>
> Hi,
> you are right, GConf is too old, not used for years. Up to date
> information is in the User Documentation, namely here:
> https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-filters-
> not-working.html.en
>
> If I read Aditya's message properly, then it had been used.
>

Indeed, that's what I followed.


> I found the logging inefficient for real debugging purposes of the
> filters, because it only logs what succeeded, not what failed. My
> recent issue was that the value I've been checking for in the filter
> rule didn't actually match the value the filter itself read from the
> message. That is, it can depend on the actual filter rules and the used
> values whether they are applied or not.
>
> Aditya, you mentioned POP account, there is no distinguishing between
> unread and newly recognized message, they behave the same. The filters
> are run when the message is copied into On This Computer/Inbox.
> I also do not see any option to disable filtering for POP accounts,
> thus the filters should be applied always for newly received messages
> in the POP account.
>
> Did the filters apply properly when you executed them manually?


Yes.


> You mentioned that the log contained some information only when you
> manually applied them, but I'm unsure whether it were filters you
> expected to be run automatically or any other.


Same filters. They work manually, but nothing runs automatically.

Cheers,
Aditya

Bye,
> Milan
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Re: [Evolution] [solved] Cannot get POP summary: Socket I/O timed out

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

On Thu, 2017-02-16 at 11:39 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>   The two accounts that failed:
>   [ ] Disable support for all POP3 extensions
> 
>   The account that works:
>   [x] Disable support for all POP3 extensions
> 
> After disabling POP3 extensions for all accounts, all accounts are
> working again.

This works for me too.

BTW: On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 07:59:56 +0100 Milan Crha  wrote:
> I have configured a Yahoo! account and I connect to it daily, using
> IMAP, and even it had issues in the past, they were usually related to
> Yahoo! server as such, not to the evolution(-data-server)
> implementation. On the other hand, I have only one Yahoo! account, not
> multiple.

I had no trouble getting IMAP to work on my Yahoo account (inbound.att.com).

jon

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Re: [Evolution] [solved] Cannot get POP summary: Socket I/O timed out

[Milan Crha]

On Thu, 2017-02-16 at 11:39 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>   The account that works:
>   [x] Disable support for all POP3 extensions
> 
> After disabling POP3 extensions for all accounts, all accounts are
> working again.

Hi,
you are right. I spent some time investigating it, only then realized
that you found a solution already.

From the background: the thing is that the server advertises a
PIPELINING capability (among others), thus the evolution(-data-server)
code writes LIST and immediately after that also UIDL commands, and
only then reads data from the server. The problem is that the server
returns response only for the first command, but not for the second. As
the evolution(-data-server) code is waiting for the response of the
second command and it's not coming, then it times out and fails.
With the extensions disabled the LIST command is invoked and the
response read and only then the UIDL is invoked and its response read,
which works as expected.

I do not think that the evolution(-data-server) code does anything
against [1].

Bye,
Milan

[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2449#section-6.6
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Re: [Evolution] [solved] Cannot get POP summary: Socket I/O timed out

[Dr. John H. Lauterbach]

Hello Ralf.  Very good research.  My e-mail account on bellsouth.net now works 
when I tick the " Disable support for all POP3 extensions"

Thank you for your efforts.

John

-Original Message-
From: Ralf Mardorf 
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Evolution] [solved] Cannot get POP summary: Socket I/O timed out
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:39:46 +0100

Hi,

I missed one difference:

  Server:pop.mail.yahoo.com
  Port:  995
  Encryption method: TLS on a dedicated port
  Authentication:Password
  [ ] Check for new messages...
  [x] Leave messages on server
  Delete after [1] day(s)
  [ ] Delete expunge from local Inbox

  The two accounts that failed:
  [ ] Disable support for all POP3 extensions

  The account that works:
  [x] Disable support for all POP3 extensions

After disabling POP3 extensions for all accounts, all accounts are
working again.

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: [Evolution] Setting up IMAP

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2017-02-15 at 19:26 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> On Wed, 2017-02-15 at 22:05 +, Dominic Knight wrote:
> > > My advice is let IMAP be IMAP, use it as IMAP, and be happy.
> > 
> > Or indeed yes, maybe not the _intended_ use of IMAP but I do it here,
> > copying everything into local folders and deleting off the server as it
> > does so. Just how I prefer it I guess. 
> > 
> > create filters based on mails dropping into your inbox so they go into
> > a folder or several on your local inbox after arrival.
> 
> My (rather awkward) situation is this. Over the years I have accumulated about
> half a million messages sorted into about 180 folders on my local machine.  
> Now
> superimposed on this are all the messages arriving in the last few days sorted
> according to different criteria.  A few simple questions:
>  * Are messages arriving via IMAP sorted according to local filters.  It seems
>that some are and some are not.  In particular messages on the Evolution 
> list
>go to my local evolution folder, but that messages on the Fedora list are
>not.  Where is a quick primer on IMAP filtering in Evolution.

There is no such thing as an "IMAP filter" as such. All your Inbox mail
is filtered when it's fresh, no matter where it comes from (you can
also apply filters manually to selected messages using Message->Apply
Filters or Ctrl-Y). However IMAP servers may have already sorted your
mail into folders *on the server*, in which case Evolution will simply
reflect that. You can also choose whether to apply filters to these
messages or only to the Inbox (See Edit->Preferences->-
>Receiving Options).

>  * When (if) I get POP running again will all the messages on my mail server 
> be
>downloaded and sorted into the proper local folders?  If not all, which 
> ones?
> Is there some way to force all messages to be downloaded and deleted from
>the server?

I haven't used POP in years but IIRC POP servers by default will
download all your messages and delete them unless you tell them not to
(look under Preferences for the account), but I could be wrong.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] Yandex Caldav/Carddav

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2017-02-16 at 11:00 +0300, Sergey Makeev wrote:
> I was told that I hadn't been a registered member and therefore was not
> authorized to post messages.

[Please don't top-post on this list]

Since you did post the message, a moderator must have approved it if
you hadn't subscribed. And of course the message was visible on the
list, which is public.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] Setting up IMAP

[Andre Klapper]

On Wed, 2017-02-15 at 19:26 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
>  * Are messages arriving via IMAP sorted according to local filters.  It seems
>    that some are and some are not.  In particular messages on the Evolution 
> list
>    go to my local evolution folder, but that messages on the Fedora list are
>    not.  Where is a quick primer on IMAP filtering in Evolution.

https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-filters-not-working.html

>  * When (if) I get POP running again will all the messages on my mail server 
> be
>    downloaded and sorted into the proper local folders?  If not all, which 
> ones?

Depends on the criteria, actions, order defined in your mail filters.

> Is there some way to force all messages to be downloaded and deleted from
>    the server?

Why would you want to delete messages from your IMAP server?

andre
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[Evolution] [solved] Cannot get POP summary: Socket I/O timed out

[Ralf Mardorf]

Hi,

I missed one difference:

  Server:pop.mail.yahoo.com
  Port:  995
  Encryption method: TLS on a dedicated port
  Authentication:Password
  [ ] Check for new messages...
  [x] Leave messages on server
  Delete after [1] day(s)
  [ ] Delete expunge from local Inbox

  The two accounts that failed:
  [ ] Disable support for all POP3 extensions

  The account that works:
  [x] Disable support for all POP3 extensions

After disabling POP3 extensions for all accounts, all accounts are
working again.

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: [Evolution] Yandex Caldav/Carddav

[Sergey Makeev]

I was told that I hadn't been a registered member and therefore was not
authorized##SELECTION_END## to post messages.
 Исходное сообщение 
От: Milan Crha 
Кому: evolution-list@gnome.org
Тема: Re: [Evolution] Yandex Caldav/Carddav
Дата: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:38:40 +0100
On Wed, 2017-02-15 at 19:03 +0300, Sergey Makeev wrote:
> 
> Could you please implement similar function of fix communication with
> Yandex CalDAV/CardDAV servers once and for ever?
Hi,
you started such thread already, but it doesn't seem you follow it,
because you already received responses there :-(
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2017-February/msg00043.h
tml
Bye,
Milan
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