Re: [Evolution] encrypt if possible

2019-05-06 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2019-05-06 at 20:48 +0200, Lukas Pirl wrote:
> (how) can Evolution (be configured to) always encrypt emails if the
> recipients' public keys are available?

Hi,
evolution cannot be configured to do that. I'd not do any such option,
either you want to send a secure mail or you do not. Once sending a
mail securely and once not feels wrong. And what in cases where you
send to multiple recipients and one of them doesn't have the public
key? Splitting the message and send it encrypted to some recipients and
unencrypted to other recipients feels like bad idea, thus there would
be "all or nothing", which is bad too, especially if you agreed with
the other recipients to always encrypt messages.

The way it is done currently is that you've the things under control,
you always know whether the message had been sent encrypted or not. I
prefer to have things under my control, without surprises and such.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] POP to IMAP conversion

2019-05-06 Thread Reid Vail via evolution-list
Thanks Pete

On Mon, 2019-05-06 at 19:13 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > My wife has an Evolution mailbox configured as POP3.  I want to
> > convert
> > this implementation over to IMAP.  Can I backup her mail via the
> > Evolution backup tool (1G+), wipe out that mailbox, recreate it
> > under
> > the same mailbox name and address as IMAP, and import the mail from
> > the
> > backup?  
> > Will that work?
> > 
> The POP mail is stored on the computer - even if you delete the POP
> account, the mail will still be there on the computer.
> 
> So, backup the mail (for safety), delete the POP account, create the
> IMAP account, once that's all done and everything is happy, copy
> whatever mail you want from "On this computer" into the IMAP account.
> 
> There's no need to remove the mailbox under "On this Computer", and
> if
> it's the Inbox, you probably shouldn't anyway as it'll just cause
> confusion later.
> 
> P.
> 
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Re: [Evolution] POP to IMAP conversion

2019-05-06 Thread Reid Vail via evolution-list
Thanks Patrick.  

This looks straight forward enough.  I especially like the idea of
dragging the folder from POP to IMAP.  There doesn't appear to be a
requirement to "import".

Just FYI, the provider is runbox.  I like them a lot.  I'm using their
IMAP now and it works great.

Thx

Reid

On Mon, 2019-05-06 at 19:21 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2019-05-06 at 13:37 -0400, Reid Vail via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > Hello group 
> > 
> > My wife has an Evolution mailbox configured as POP3.  I want to
> > convert
> > this implementation over to IMAP.  Can I backup her mail via the
> > Evolution backup tool (1G+), wipe out that mailbox, recreate it
> > under
> > the same mailbox name and address as IMAP, and import the mail from
> > the
> > backup?  
> > Will that work?
> 
> No. The backup tool will restore the same mail structure it backed
> up.
> It's just a compressed archive.
> 
> "Converting" to IMAP is a misnomer. IMAP and POP are mail access
> protocols, so what you need to do is fetch mail using IMAP rather
> than
> POP.
> 
> Here are some outline instructions off the top of my head. Test
> carefully before deleting anything, and if you're unsure of anything
> than use the backup tool as a safeguard before making changes.
> 
> It would be helpful to know what mail provider this is, but in any
> case
> the first issue is to find out if they support IMAP. Assuming they
> do,
> go to Edit->Preferences->Mail Accounts and disable mail fetching for
> the POP account. Then create a new mail account in Evolution using
> the
> same name and account details as for the POP version, but obviously
> changing the access method to IMAP.
> 
> Now you want to convert the old POP mail to IMAP. There are two
> cases:
> 
>1. Mail which is still on the server, either because it has not
> yet
>   been fetched or because the POP configuration included "leave
> on
>   server", should (in theory) be immediately visible in the IMAP
>   account with no conversion required. Of course YMMV because
> server
>   implementations may have their own quirks.
>2. Mail which had previously been fetched and is stored locally
> can be
>   simply dragged to the new account structure. Optionally, you
> may
>   want to create a new structure on the IMAP server and upload
> the
>   mail to it, which can be done in a similar way.
> 
> If the POP account had filters, e.g. for sorting into local folders,
> they will need to be recreated to use IMAP folders. You should also
> consider whether you want to enable off-line access for some folders,
> because otherwise the mail will stay on the IMAP server.
> 
> Once that's all done, you can delete the POP account configuration in
> Evo.
> 
> Hope I haven't forgotten anything obvious (or obscure). Feel free to
> ask if you have any doubts.
> 
> poc
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Re: [Evolution] encrypt if possible

2019-05-06 Thread Zan Lynx
On 5/6/19 12:48 PM, Lukas Pirl wrote:
> However, what I'd also expect is the availability of an option saying "always
> encrypt emails when sending to contacts for which public keys are available".
> Can this be achieved?

Thunderbird does that. But I turned it off. You may not want to do it
either.

It turns out that most people I have GPG keys available for would rather
be able to read their email through a web interface than be secure. They
only use it for sending passwords and such like.

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[Evolution] encrypt if possible

2019-05-06 Thread Lukas Pirl
Dear all,

(how) can Evolution (be configured to) always encrypt emails if the
recipients' public keys are available?

There is an option to "always encrypt", but I don't have/want/need the
public keys of most of my contacts (and most of them have none anyway). If
that option is enabled, I get an error message every time sending an email to
a contact for which no public key is available. From my expectations, this is
correct behavior.

However, what I'd also expect is the availability of an option saying "always
encrypt emails when sending to contacts for which public keys are available".
Can this be achieved?

Thanks in advance and best,

Lukas


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Re: [Evolution] POP to IMAP conversion

2019-05-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2019-05-06 at 13:37 -0400, Reid Vail via evolution-list wrote:
> Hello group   
> 
> My wife has an Evolution mailbox configured as POP3.  I want to convert
> this implementation over to IMAP.  Can I backup her mail via the
> Evolution backup tool (1G+), wipe out that mailbox, recreate it under
> the same mailbox name and address as IMAP, and import the mail from the
> backup?  
> Will that work?

No. The backup tool will restore the same mail structure it backed up.
It's just a compressed archive.

"Converting" to IMAP is a misnomer. IMAP and POP are mail access
protocols, so what you need to do is fetch mail using IMAP rather than
POP.

Here are some outline instructions off the top of my head. Test
carefully before deleting anything, and if you're unsure of anything
than use the backup tool as a safeguard before making changes.

It would be helpful to know what mail provider this is, but in any case
the first issue is to find out if they support IMAP. Assuming they do,
go to Edit->Preferences->Mail Accounts and disable mail fetching for
the POP account. Then create a new mail account in Evolution using the
same name and account details as for the POP version, but obviously
changing the access method to IMAP.

Now you want to convert the old POP mail to IMAP. There are two cases:

   1. Mail which is still on the server, either because it has not yet
  been fetched or because the POP configuration included "leave on
  server", should (in theory) be immediately visible in the IMAP
  account with no conversion required. Of course YMMV because server
  implementations may have their own quirks.
   2. Mail which had previously been fetched and is stored locally can be
  simply dragged to the new account structure. Optionally, you may
  want to create a new structure on the IMAP server and upload the
  mail to it, which can be done in a similar way.

If the POP account had filters, e.g. for sorting into local folders,
they will need to be recreated to use IMAP folders. You should also
consider whether you want to enable off-line access for some folders,
because otherwise the mail will stay on the IMAP server.

Once that's all done, you can delete the POP account configuration in
Evo.

Hope I haven't forgotten anything obvious (or obscure). Feel free to
ask if you have any doubts.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] POP to IMAP conversion

2019-05-06 Thread Pete Biggs


> My wife has an Evolution mailbox configured as POP3.  I want to convert
> this implementation over to IMAP.  Can I backup her mail via the
> Evolution backup tool (1G+), wipe out that mailbox, recreate it under
> the same mailbox name and address as IMAP, and import the mail from the
> backup?  
> Will that work?
> 
The POP mail is stored on the computer - even if you delete the POP
account, the mail will still be there on the computer.

So, backup the mail (for safety), delete the POP account, create the
IMAP account, once that's all done and everything is happy, copy
whatever mail you want from "On this computer" into the IMAP account.

There's no need to remove the mailbox under "On this Computer", and if
it's the Inbox, you probably shouldn't anyway as it'll just cause
confusion later.

P.


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[Evolution] POP to IMAP conversion

2019-05-06 Thread Reid Vail via evolution-list
Hello group 

My wife has an Evolution mailbox configured as POP3.  I want to convert
this implementation over to IMAP.  Can I backup her mail via the
Evolution backup tool (1G+), wipe out that mailbox, recreate it under
the same mailbox name and address as IMAP, and import the mail from the
backup?  
Will that work?

Thx

Reid 

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Re: [Evolution] EVOLUTION Don't display and don't remember the passwords correctly after restauration

2019-05-06 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2019-05-06 at 13:30 +0200, Philippe PES wrote:
> And about my 1st issue: the size of the icons I will try to explain
> or attach a screenshot.
> But it is possible that I also miss a gnome library ...
> So,
> It's about all the icons in Evolution that they are wery small unless
> I change the caracteres size in the configuration panel (KDE ou GTK)
> Here a screen capture:

I cannot recognize much in that screenshot because it is too small.

Which icon theme is used? I don't see an Evolution problem here.

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Re: [Evolution] EVOLUTION Don't display and don't remember the passwords correctly after restauration

2019-05-06 Thread Philippe PES
Hi Andre, hi 

Thank you very much to spend your time for me.
And you were right !!
My 2nd issue was due by gnome-keyring package that wasn't installed. 
As soon as I have installed it the problem was wipe out.
Thank a lot again !

About my  version of Evolution is the 3.30.5

And about my 1st issue: the size of the icons I will try to explain or
attach a screenshot.
But it is possible that I also miss a gnome library ...
So,
It's about all the icons in Evolution that they are wery small unless I
change the caracteres size in the configuration panel (KDE ou GTK)
Here a screen capture:


In the same time I will check on the developper corner of the Evolution
official website if I can see a list of needed library and compare with
my system...
But I don't know about the library and sometime the library name is not
so explicit... ;-))
I will try...

So, thank you again for the help !

Nice day to all
Philippe
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Re: [Evolution] copy message in folder

2019-05-06 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sat, 2019-05-04 at 23:55 +0200, Ángel wrote:
> However, you can save it, and then import the saved file into a
> folder

Hi,
being it properly recognized "email message attachment", one can
drag it to a mail folder inside evolution. It's a bit tricky when
doing it inside the mail body (only the attachment type icon works),
but doing the drag from the attachment bar at the bottom works
just fine. Such message can be dropped in a message composer too.

> (you may need to add a "From " line at the top)

This should not be needed since some version I do not recall, though I
did notice that there are cases where it is needed, due to some weird
issue with the message headers or something (I didn't investigate it
when I saw it and it's as long ago as I already lost a track of the
test message).
Bye,
Milan

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