Re: [Evolution] How can I override the IMAP path?
Hi,
I did the same you did yesterday and did it again now. However, in my log there
is no occurrence of "NAMESPACE". In my case it is davmail, which I want to use
to get access to my Exchange Archive - the only clients I know of being able to
do that are Outlook, OWA and davmail. Overriding the IMAP path works with
/archive in Thunderbird and Nine on Android via davmail.
> Does the namespace usage hide all but the Inbox folder, or you still
> see all folders from the top level? If I understood it correctly, then
> you want to have Inbox hidden (which is not possible, as stated above),
> but maybe I'm wrong.
When Namespace is set, I can still see all of my folders in Evolution. Whatever
I set in Namespace, even garbage and obviously wrong things, I always see the
same list of folders after the restart.
Best
denk
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 at 10:04 AM
> From: "Milan Crha via evolution-list"
> To: evolution-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] How can I override the IMAP path?
>
> On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 00:51 +0100, abc abc wrote:
> > I still see the usual INBOX
>
> Hi,
> if I recall correctly, then the INBOX is a very special folder on an
> IMAP server, it's supposed to be always available.
>
> > Is there anything else I could try?
>
> I tried it here. When I run Evolution with CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io, then I
> see that my IMAP server (Dovecot, if it matters) returns:
>
>[imapx:A] I/O: 'A3 NAMESPACE'
>[imapx:A] I/O: '* NAMESPACE (("" ".")) NIL NIL
>A3 OK Namespace completed (0.001 + 0.000 secs).'
>
> which means the empty namespace's directory separator is a dot. It is
> also confirmed with a LIST request:
>
> [imapx:A] I/O: 'A9 LIST "" "*" RETURN (CHILDREN SUBSCRIBED)'
> [imapx:A] I/O: '* LIST (\Subscribed \HasChildren \UnMarked) "." for-offline
>
> by the "." just before the "for-offline" text (it's a folder name on
> the server).
>
> Then I closed Evolution and edited corresponding .source file for this
> IMAP account with:
>
>Namespace=for-offline.
>UseNamespace=true
>
> (note of the "." at the end of the Namespace key).
>
> When I start Evolution, after saving my changes, I see this in the log:
>
>[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00016 LIST "" "for-offline.*" RETURN (CHILDREN...)'
>[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00017 LIST "" for-offline RETURN (...)'
>
> where the first searches for subfolders of the "for-offline" folder.
> There is a runtime warning shown on the evolution console:
>
>> No matching namespace for "." for-offline
>
> but I ignore it for now. The GUI shows limited set of folders now,
> specifically:
>
>Inbox
>for-offline
> sub
>Junk
>Trash
>
> I have created many more folders at the top level, which are hidden
> now. After this I close Evolution and edit the corresponding .source
> file and set
>
>UseNamespace=false
>
> and when I save it and run Evolution again I see full folder structure
> as before.
>
> This is with the current development version, but it should be quite
> the same as with 3.34.x, as far as I know.
>
> Does the namespace usage hide all but the Inbox folder, or you still
> see all folders from the top level? If I understood it correctly, then
> you want to have Inbox hidden (which is not possible, as stated above),
> but maybe I'm wrong.
>
> Bye,
> Milan
>
> P.S.: by the way, your reply didn't go under the original thread. It
> seems your mail client doesn't preserve threading headers, or you used
> some odd function to "reply" to the mesasge. In Evolution, you can
> Reply To List (Ctrl+L) to Mailing List messages like those you receive
> here (if not referenced directly by the sender, which I did not do in
> this specific message).
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Re: [Evolution] Long pauses using Evolution
On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 20:21 -0600, Robert G (Doc) Savage via evolution- list wrote: > Every time I connect to a different folder, set a filter, or click > on send/receive, there's a 24-26 second pause before the result is > displayed Hi, does the same happen when you open the menu System->Preferences->Look and Feel->Popup Notifications and click on "Preview" there? If so, then I guess you have installed more than just MATE desktop in the system, which would mean you face: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1490959 The comment #1 contains a workaround, apart of uninstalling the other desktop environment. If it's not it, then I guess you can still log into a text terminal (for example Ctrl+Alt+F3 , of other Fn key), where you can capture backtrace of frozen evolution, to see what it is trying to do. That would be done ideally with debuginfo packages at least for evolution- data-server and evolution installed, but maybe as a starter it can be done even without it. The command to use is: $ gdb --batch --ex "t a a bt" -pid=`pidof evolution` &>bt.txt Please check the bt.txt for any private information, like passwords, email address, server addresses,... I usually search for "pass" at least (quotes for clarity only). To return back to the graphical interface use Alt+F1 or Alt+F2 or some such, your session can be on one of those consoles. > Jan 15 23:02:08 tiger.protogeek.org xdg-desktop-por[8858]: Failed to > get application states: > GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window > list: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name > org.gnome.Shell without an owner, and proxy was constructed with the > G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag Heh, this is funny. So xdg-desktop-por... (possibly xdg-desktop-portal- gtk) finally works only under GNOME Shell and nowhere else, or some parts of it. That's an interesting news to me. (I've no intention to start a flame war here, it's just funny.) Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] trouble with Office 365 and OAuth2
On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 15:02 -0500, Garrett Mitchener wrote: > I can't see any of that from my account, so I'll just suggest that > maybe someone who has admin access to an Azure system could update > the documentation? Hi, that would be great. Unfortunately the account I used in time when writing that wiki page was a trial account, which expired long time ago. I'd be grateful with any help on this, though it's possible none of this will be needed once the EWS protocol will be replaced with REST API for the Office365 server [1]. Not I'd expect to see it any time soon. Bye, Milan [1] https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/exchange/2018/07/03/upcoming-changes-to-exchange-web-services-ews-api-for-office-365/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Move mail to where?
On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 19:17 +0100, George N. Reeke wrote: > Re folder--I guess this is a version > problem, my copy/move always shows all folders open, even though > only the one I want is open in the folder map at the left. Hi, yes, that's intentional and I have it like that too. What I've been talking about is that the dialog is opened with the previously selected folder the next time you call Copy/Move messages. > I think I can tackle dependency issues when the time comes. That would be challenging, due to evolution-data-server (eds) dependency and the other system parts depending on eds as well. A bit more about this can be seen here: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Building#Evolution-Data-Server_dependency You may get better with Flatpak, even it has its own caveats too (due to Flatpak design). https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/#Evolution_in_Flatpak I'm not advising any of the above, just saying what one can do to get to the latest versions, at least for testing purposes. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Long pauses using Evolution
New member to this list. I've been advised by the Community support for Fedora users < us...@lists.fedoraproject.org> list to post this to your list since it involves an Evolution problem. The system is a fully-updated Fedora 31 with the MATE desktop and running Evolution v3.334.2-1.fc31. If further environmental details are required, please ask. I'm having persistent problems with Evolution fetching and reading Pop mail from a local ISP. Every time I connect to a different folder, set a filter, or click on send/receive, there's a 24-26 second pause before the result is displayed. I see the same pauses with existing, already downloaded mail. Thee pauses affect the entire system. When I run "journalctl -fa" in a Terminal window I see the following: Jan 15 23:01:34 tiger.protogeek.org kernel: Lockdown: pmdakvm: debugfs access is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7 Jan 15 23:02:08 tiger.protogeek.org xdg-desktop-por[8858]: Failed to get application states: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window list: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name org.gnome.Shell without an owner, and proxy was constructed with the G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag Jan 15 23:02:32 tiger.protogeek.org pcp-pmie[2148]: High aggregate context switch rate 48447ctxsw/s...@tiger.protogeek.org Jan 15 23:02:34 tiger.protogeek.org kernel: Lockdown: pmdakvm: debugfs access is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7 Jan 15 23:03:08 tiger.protogeek.org xdg-desktop-por[8858]: Failed to get application states: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window list: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name org.gnome.Shell without an owner, and proxy was constructed with the G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag Jan 15 23:03:34 tiger.protogeek.org kernel: Lockdown: pmdakvm: debugfs access is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7 Jan 15 23:04:08 tiger.protogeek.org xdg-desktop-por[8858]: Failed to get application states: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window list: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name org.gnome.Shell without an owner, and proxy was constructed with the G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag Jan 15 23:04:34 tiger.protogeek.org kernel: Lockdown: pmdakvm: debugfs access is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7 When I so try to view man kernel_lockdown.7, I get "No manual entry for kernel_lockdown.7" Whatever is causing Evolution to lock up for 24-26 seconds is doing the same to my entire system. Ideas? Suggestions? --Doc Savage Fairview Heights, IL ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] trouble with Office 365 and OAuth2
My IT contact finally got all of this working. Yay! He mentioned that the
web interface in the Azure system seems to be different from what's in the
documentation at the Gnome Evolution web site. He found a way to change it
back to the older interface and that made it easier to set things up. I
can't see any of that from my account, so I'll just suggest that maybe
someone who has admin access to an Azure system could update the
documentation?
Thanks!
On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:09 AM Milan Crha via evolution-list <
evolution-list@gnome.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 10:39 -0500, Garrett Mitchener via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > {"error":"invalid_client","error_description":"AADSTS7000218: The
> > request body
> > must contain the following parameter: 'client_assertion' or
> > 'client_secret'
>
> Hi,
> what you see in the "minibrowser" is an OAuth2 wizard provided by
> Microsoft. The 'client_secret' is a parameter, which is sent to the
> server. I looked into the source code and evolution-ews doesn't use
> client_assertion, and it passes NULL (like 'none') client_secret. Maybe
> the Microsoft page changed something and requires that client_secret,
> though I know few users whom use OAuth2 with Office365 on a daily bases
> and they would notice any problem very quickly. Thus, maybe, the way
> the application is set up forces the use of the client_secret, which is
> not needed otherwise.
>
> That's only a guess though, I do not have any active account to confirm
> this.
>
> The latest (closed) bug about OAuth2 and Office365 is here:
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-ews/issues/58
> Maybe you can find some information there.
>
> Searching the web for the error code (AADSTS7000218) can shed some
> light too. Few of the hits mention that the key was registered as for a
> Web service, while evolution-ews requires Native application instead.
>
> Bye,
> Milan
>
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Re: [Evolution] Move mail to where?
Milan, Thanks re send item. Re folder--I guess this is a version problem, my copy/move always shows all folders open, even though only the one I want is open in the folder map at the left. I am just starting on CentOS 7 from RedHat 6, so will not try to update to latest evolution until I am comfortable with all the other new stuff--I think I can tackle dependency issues when the time comes. George On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 07:32 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2020-01-15 at 22:53 +0100, George N. Reeke wrote: > > So, how do I make it keep open (in the move folder tree popup) only > > the year folder I want? > > Hi, > I tried it here (the latest development version, but it might be the > same as 3.34.x in this regard) and the folder you pick is remembered > during the life time of the application, aka it's forgotten the next > run. But as long as Evolution is running it opens the "copy/move > message to" dialog with the last selected folder there. > > > I would rather it just sends in the background like it > > used to--any way to turn this off? > > Edit->Preferences->Composer Preferences->Send messages through > Outbox. > > Bye, > Milan > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail.gnome.org_mailman_listinfo_evolution-2Dlist=DwICAg=JeTkUgVztGMmhKYjxsy2rfoWYibK1YmxXez1G3oNStg=jya52EHQYs5GJJ8uBNZZeZ3OFSM3QRdLnT55J0n0u6Q=VY_1hFfWCsXYJkL8HFgvLjDO8-XEasMiT-tvq8b__gw=w8x_y3d0UJApUvntrXsoytH0xLZm16KVhb9IEAoKJBs= > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Attaching Email Message
> I am using Evolution 3.28.5-0 on ubuntu0.18.04.1 > > When replying to an email how do I attach an email to my reply? > Could anybody help with how to do this please, as I cannot find how > to do it through exploring the various relevant menus or using the > help guide? > Do you mean attach the email you are replying to or a different email? In general you should be able to drag any email (including the one you are replying to) into the composer and it will be attached. If you want to make attaching the email as the default for replying then you change it at Edit -> Preferences -> Composer Preferences -> Reply style. There's also Message -> Alternative Reply (Ctrl-Alt-R) which allows you to tailor the reply format for that particular instance. Caveat - this is on my Evolution which is 3.34.2, I don't know if these things work on 3.28.5 P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Attaching Email Message
Good Afternoon I am using Evolution 3.28.5-0 on ubuntu0.18.04.1 When replying to an email how do I attach an email to my reply? Could anybody help with how to do this please, as I cannot find how to do it through exploring the various relevant menus or using the help guide? Kind regards Tim Tim Smith BSc (Hons) MCIEEM Managing Director and Principal Ecologist Informing - Reducing Risk - Adding Value www.fivevalleysecology.co.uk T: +44 (0)1453 759306 – Choose Option 1 M: +44 (0)7732 397984 5 St Brendans Road Stroud Gloucestershire GL5 1PB CIEEM Member Subject to Code of Professional Conduct Registered in England No. 7540564 VAT No. 133 4074 43 *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this email. Please notify Five Valleys Ecology Ltd immediately by email if you have received this email by mistake and delete this email from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. We have checked this email and its attachments for viruses. The recipient should also check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Five Valleys Ecology Ltd accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Please consider the environment before printing this email * Kind regards Tim Tim Smith BSc (Hons) MCIEEM Managing Director and Principal Ecologist Informing - Reducing Risk - Adding Value www.fivevalleysecology.co.uk T: +44 (0)1453 759306 – Choose Option 1 M: +44 (0)7732 397984 5 St Brendans Road Stroud Gloucestershire GL5 1PB CIEEM Member Subject to Code of Professional Conduct Registered in England No. 7540564 VAT No. 133 4074 43 *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this email. Please notify Five Valleys Ecology Ltd immediately by email if you have received this email by mistake and delete this email from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. We have checked this email and its attachments for viruses. The recipient should also check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Five Valleys Ecology Ltd accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Please consider the environment before printing this email * ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution-ews and VPN-connection
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 15.01.2020, 09:56 +0100 schrieb Milan Crha via evolution-list: > Maybe there could be a workaround, to keep the connection alive you > might need to set "Check for new messages" interval to a value, which > is lower than "automatic disconnect timeout due to inactivity" set on > the server. your suggested workaround worked in part: I no longer get an error message when sending mails. However, the calendar and contacts (also GOA) do not seem to benefit from this. > The > thing is that you see this error when using Mail, but other parts > (calendars/books) are/can-be affected as well. Yupp. Thats the case... > By the way, are you really able to reproduce this reliably when you > connect or disconnect VPN? If only with the disconnect of the VPN, > then > it can be that evo-ews connected to the server through the VPN, thus > the VPN disconnect invalidated that connection, similarly as the > inactivity timeout, though not exactly the same. Maybe you are right, yes... I try to write a bug report with as much information as possible. Regards Helge ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How can I override the IMAP path?
On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 00:51 +0100, abc abc wrote:
> I still see the usual INBOX
Hi,
if I recall correctly, then the INBOX is a very special folder on an
IMAP server, it's supposed to be always available.
> Is there anything else I could try?
I tried it here. When I run Evolution with CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io, then I
see that my IMAP server (Dovecot, if it matters) returns:
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A3 NAMESPACE'
[imapx:A] I/O: '* NAMESPACE (("" ".")) NIL NIL
A3 OK Namespace completed (0.001 + 0.000 secs).'
which means the empty namespace's directory separator is a dot. It is
also confirmed with a LIST request:
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A9 LIST "" "*" RETURN (CHILDREN SUBSCRIBED)'
[imapx:A] I/O: '* LIST (\Subscribed \HasChildren \UnMarked) "." for-offline
by the "." just before the "for-offline" text (it's a folder name on
the server).
Then I closed Evolution and edited corresponding .source file for this
IMAP account with:
Namespace=for-offline.
UseNamespace=true
(note of the "." at the end of the Namespace key).
When I start Evolution, after saving my changes, I see this in the log:
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00016 LIST "" "for-offline.*" RETURN (CHILDREN...)'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00017 LIST "" for-offline RETURN (...)'
where the first searches for subfolders of the "for-offline" folder.
There is a runtime warning shown on the evolution console:
> No matching namespace for "." for-offline
but I ignore it for now. The GUI shows limited set of folders now,
specifically:
Inbox
for-offline
sub
Junk
Trash
I have created many more folders at the top level, which are hidden
now. After this I close Evolution and edit the corresponding .source
file and set
UseNamespace=false
and when I save it and run Evolution again I see full folder structure
as before.
This is with the current development version, but it should be quite
the same as with 3.34.x, as far as I know.
Does the namespace usage hide all but the Inbox folder, or you still
see all folders from the top level? If I understood it correctly, then
you want to have Inbox hidden (which is not possible, as stated above),
but maybe I'm wrong.
Bye,
Milan
P.S.: by the way, your reply didn't go under the original thread. It
seems your mail client doesn't preserve threading headers, or you used
some odd function to "reply" to the mesasge. In Evolution, you can
Reply To List (Ctrl+L) to Mailing List messages like those you receive
here (if not referenced directly by the sender, which I did not do in
this specific message).
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Re: [Evolution] Move mail to where?
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Re: [Evolution] How can I override the IMAP path?
>Please note that HTML mail should not be used on this list unless there >is also a plain-text version of the message. > >poc Hi poc, thanks for the hint. I will send plain text mails now. Sorry. Best denk ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How can I override the IMAP path?
>>On Tue, 2020-01-14 at 19:33 +0100, abc abc wrote: >>I have to set two settings in the respective source file under >>~/.config/evolution/sources: >>Namespace=IMAP path (in my case I need /archive which works with >>other IMAP clients) >>UseNamespace=true >> >>Is there anything else I have to configure to get that working? >Hi, >yes, that should work. The question is about directory separator, >because many servers use a dot (.) not forward slash (/). Try to run >Evolution with IMAPx debugging to see what namespaces the server >returns and what it does in general: > > $ CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io evolution > >In other words, it may depend how you specify the Namespace path. I do >not recall what is expected there, it can be the directory separator >should be at the end, not at the start of it. >Bye, >Milan Hi Milan, thanks for your answer. Unfortunately, whatever I try (/archive, /archive/, archive/, .archive, .archive., archive.) nothing changes and I still see the usual INBOX. Also in the debug output, there is nothing mentioned regarding namespaces and even the string archive doesn't show up in the log. Is there anything else I could try? Thanks and best denk ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
