Re: [Evolution] Yahoo IMAP stopped working ... again

[Milan Crha via evolution-list]

On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 20:42 -0600, vsnyder wrote:
> I can access both accounts via web pages, which I assume do not use
> IMAP.
> 
> AT and Yahoo service were no help. they blame Evolution.

Hi,
the Yahoo! service representatives sent messages with the information
several times before they did this. You should receive them as well, I
guess. See the attachment.
Bye,
Milan


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Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses

[Milan Crha via evolution-list]

On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 17:09 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> Err, OK. It just looks odd when I have 5 or 6 processes all taking
> nearly 100Gb of virtual memory

Hi,
you can disable it with:

   $ GIGACAGE_ENABLED=0 evolution

I do not know whether the gigacage has any meaning for Evolution,
because Evolution has disabled execution of the "remote" (in a meaning
as "received in the email") JavaScript code. Evolution runs its own
JavaScript code only.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Printing Mail to PDF

[Milan Crha via evolution-list]

On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 09:57 +0100, Andre Klapper via evolution-list
wrote:
> > Is this a problem in Evolution or in my (Linux Mint) PDF printer ?
> 
> Hard to say. Which exact Evolution version?

Hi,
I'm afraid it's a problem of the WebKitGTK. Evolution just passes data
to it and it does whatever it wants to with it. I doubt it can
recognize real print to the PDF, it uses only styles. For example when
I try to print Andre's mail, which is plain text, then the headers lost
their mailto: "links" (more or less expected, Evolution can process
some parts differently on print), but the text part has properly styled
(blue & underlined here) the links in the Andre's signature and the
links to the mailing list, they are only not clickable.

I do not know whether this could be done at all, though. It's a
question on the WebKitGTK developers. When I print a web page from the
Epiphany (which is WebKitGTK application), then it doesn't make the
links clickable too.

Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Error message when selecting the checkbox for a Calendar on the computer - "Message recipient disconnected from message bus without replying"

[Milan Crha via evolution-list]

On Mon, 2020-11-16 at 17:08 -0700, KS via evolution-list wrote:
> "The calendar backend servicing 'testcalendar' has quit unexpectedly.

Hi,
it means the evolution-calendar-factory process crashed for some
reason. It can be the On This Computer/Personal calendar content is
broken in some way. Having a backtrace of the crash will help to
identify the cause. Install debuginfo (dbg) packages for libical,
libical-glib, glib2 and evolution-data-server. I think Ubuntu splits
them into subpackages, which makes it harder to install. Say it would
be for libedataserver, libedata-cal, libecal and some such. How the
others are named I do not know, I do not use Ubuntu. Once you've them
installed run the factory under gdb like this:

   $ gdb /usr/libexec/evolution-calendar-factory -w

The actual path can differ in your distribution. After that wait for
few seconds, thus the D-Bus has time to register the interface and all
those things, then run Evolution and reproduce the crash. The gdb
should stop the execution, after which you can run:

   (gdb) bt

which will print the backtrace. Then you can quit the session with:

   (gdb) q

Please check the backtrace for any private information, like passwords,
email address, server addresses,... I usually search for "pass" at
least (quotes for clarity only).
 
> https://www.systutorials.com/evolution-save-data-configure-files-linux/
> - "Where Does Evolution Save Its Data and Configuration Files on
> Linux?"

The official user documentation contains the information here:
https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/data-storage.html

The On This Computer/Personal calendar is stored at:

   ~/.local/share/evolution/calendar/system/

It contains a calendar.ics file with your events. The other files
reference related attachments for respective events, if any. You can
move away the file, then the calendar factory will create it (as an
empty file) on demand. You can extract the events from there with an
external tool, or you can try File->Import->Single file->... it from
Evolution, though if it's broken in some way the 'evolution' process
will crash in the same way the calendar factory crashes.

By the way, what is your tzdata (or tzdb) version, please? I think of:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/-/issues/267

Bye,
Milan

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[Evolution] Recommendation to get off of Yahoo, AT, etc. email

[J.B. Nicholson]

You wrote:

Any ideas?


I recommend getting your own domain name with a hoster that can host your email so 
that you're not relying on some forwarding convenience that can go away, and so that 
you can move your email service as needed without ever having to tell others what 
your new email address is (because it won't change).


Dreamhost.com has good services, hosts email accessible via IMAP/SMTP over an 
encrypted connection, and is also a domain registrar. I don't work for them but I've 
used their services (including using Dreamhost-hosted email accounts via IMAP/SMTP 
using Evolution).

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[Evolution] Yahoo IMAP stopped working ... again

[vsnyder]

I've been using Evolution for many years. I've had an account @sbcglobal.net
for years. For years, the receiving server has been mail.imap.yahoo.com on
port 993 with TLS.

Today, it stopped working. I have another account @sbcglobal.net, also
receiving via imap.mail.yahoo.com on port 993 with TLS. It works fine.

I can access both accounts via web pages, which I assume do not use IMAP.

AT and Yahoo service were no help. they blame Evolution.

I reloaded Evolution. I rebooted. I changed my password. I created a new
Evolution account, with a different account name, for the same
@sbcglobal.net account. Nothing worked.

There were many messages about this eight years ago.

I'm using Evolution 3.30.5-1.1 on Debian Buster. Apparently, Debian doesn't
offer Evolution updates.

Any ideas?




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Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses

[Pete Biggs]

On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 20:22 +0100, Andre Klapper via evolution-list
wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 15:51 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > When composing an email the composer will stop responding for a
> > second
> > or two every now and then.  It manifests it self as being laggy when
> > typing, so a character doesn't appear immediately.
> 
> Maybe also see https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1221
> 

That certainly seems to describe the issue. Hopefully it can be
resolved soon.

P.


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Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses

[Andre Klapper via evolution-list]

On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 15:51 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> When composing an email the composer will stop responding for a
> second
> or two every now and then.  It manifests it self as being laggy when
> typing, so a character doesn't appear immediately.

Maybe also see https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1221

Cheers,
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Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 16:09 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 09:00 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote:
> > On 11/17/20 8:51 AM, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > Does anyone else see this? My system is not overloaded, there's nothing
> > > taking lots of CPU or IO.  However evolution and various WebKit
> > > processes are each taking about 80-100Gb of virtual memory. Is this
> > > normal? (Resident memory is within normal ranges.)
> > 
> > Yes I've seen Evolution do that lag thing many times. Whatever goes on 
> > inside the HTML composer is not well done.
> 
> So it's not me going mad! But this is plain text composing and I've
> only noticed it since upgrading to F33 and 3.38.1
> 
> > 
> > The virtual memory use is part of WebKit and is called Gigacages. It 
> > allocates huge zones of memory around compiled Javascript so that even 
> > if some bug allowed direct memory accesses, it isn't mathematically 
> > possible for it to reach sensitive data.
> > 
> Err, OK. It just looks odd when I have 5 or 6 processes all taking
> nearly 100Gb of virtual memory:
> 
> PID USER  PR  NIVIRTRESSHR S  %CPU  %MEM TIME+ 
> COMMAND   
>   
>   81695 pete  20   0   99.1g 111556  90300 S   0.3   0.7   0:05.12 
> WebKitWebProces   
>   
>   77144 pete  20   0   98.0g  45280  38444 S   0.0   0.3   0:00.16 
> WebKitNetworkPr   
>   
>   81694 pete  20   0   98.0g  44680  37912 S   0.0   0.3   0:00.06 
> WebKitNetworkPr   
>   
>   77146 pete  20   0   85.4g 126724  95132 S   0.0   0.8   0:31.77 
> WebKitWebProces   
>   
>   77101 pete  20   0   84.1g 436828 128640 S   6.0   2.7   2:21.81 
> evolution

Here's a screenshot of my system:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_ryubFSGMiORDiwf2LmNc8MARAsI3HPA/view?usp=sharing

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses

[Pete Biggs]

> 
> Using F33 with KDE here. I haven't seen this, but I never compose mail
> in HTML so maybe there's a connection. In the past, lagginess has
> sometimes been associated with Evo looking up online contact info when
> filling in addresses.

I'm not one for using HTML either (unless I REALLY have to). It's only
in the composer that I'm seeing it. I suspect that WebKit is doing
something in the background, and I wish it would stop it.

P.



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Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses

[Pete Biggs]

On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 09:00 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote:
> On 11/17/20 8:51 AM, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > Does anyone else see this? My system is not overloaded, there's nothing
> > taking lots of CPU or IO.  However evolution and various WebKit
> > processes are each taking about 80-100Gb of virtual memory. Is this
> > normal? (Resident memory is within normal ranges.)
> 
> Yes I've seen Evolution do that lag thing many times. Whatever goes on 
> inside the HTML composer is not well done.

So it's not me going mad! But this is plain text composing and I've
only noticed it since upgrading to F33 and 3.38.1

> 
> The virtual memory use is part of WebKit and is called Gigacages. It 
> allocates huge zones of memory around compiled Javascript so that even 
> if some bug allowed direct memory accesses, it isn't mathematically 
> possible for it to reach sensitive data.
> 
Err, OK. It just looks odd when I have 5 or 6 processes all taking
nearly 100Gb of virtual memory:

PID USER  PR  NIVIRTRESSHR S  %CPU  %MEM TIME+ COMMAND  

   
  81695 pete  20   0   99.1g 111556  90300 S   0.3   0.7   0:05.12 
WebKitWebProces 

  77144 pete  20   0   98.0g  45280  38444 S   0.0   0.3   0:00.16 
WebKitNetworkPr 

  81694 pete  20   0   98.0g  44680  37912 S   0.0   0.3   0:00.06 
WebKitNetworkPr 

  77146 pete  20   0   85.4g 126724  95132 S   0.0   0.8   0:31.77 
WebKitWebProces 

  77101 pete  20   0   84.1g 436828 128640 S   6.0   2.7   2:21.81 
evolution

P.


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Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 15:51 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> Hi -
> 
> Just upgraded to Fedora 33 and so have 3.38.1 and this is really a "is
> it me or you" type question.
> 
> When composing an email the composer will stop responding for a second
> or two every now and then.  It manifests it self as being laggy when
> typing, so a character doesn't appear immediately. Not really a
> problem, but I almost always press the delayed key again so I get
> double characters when it catches up.  It's just annoying.
> 
> Does anyone else see this? My system is not overloaded, there's nothing
> taking lots of CPU or IO.  However evolution and various WebKit
> processes are each taking about 80-100Gb of virtual memory. Is this
> normal? (Resident memory is within normal ranges.)

Using F33 with KDE here. I haven't seen this, but I never compose mail
in HTML so maybe there's a connection. In the past, lagginess has
sometimes been associated with Evo looking up online contact info when
filling in addresses.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses

[Zan Lynx]

On 11/17/20 8:51 AM, Pete Biggs wrote:

Does anyone else see this? My system is not overloaded, there's nothing
taking lots of CPU or IO.  However evolution and various WebKit
processes are each taking about 80-100Gb of virtual memory. Is this
normal? (Resident memory is within normal ranges.)


Yes I've seen Evolution do that lag thing many times. Whatever goes on 
inside the HTML composer is not well done.


The virtual memory use is part of WebKit and is called Gigacages. It 
allocates huge zones of memory around compiled Javascript so that even 
if some bug allowed direct memory accesses, it isn't mathematically 
possible for it to reach sensitive data.


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[Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses

[Pete Biggs]

Hi -

Just upgraded to Fedora 33 and so have 3.38.1 and this is really a "is
it me or you" type question.

When composing an email the composer will stop responding for a second
or two every now and then.  It manifests it self as being laggy when
typing, so a character doesn't appear immediately. Not really a
problem, but I almost always press the delayed key again so I get
double characters when it catches up.  It's just annoying.

Does anyone else see this? My system is not overloaded, there's nothing
taking lots of CPU or IO.  However evolution and various WebKit
processes are each taking about 80-100Gb of virtual memory. Is this
normal? (Resident memory is within normal ranges.)

P.



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Re: [Evolution] "Cannot get message", why?

[Volker Wysk]

Am Dienstag, den 17.11.2020, 16:04 +0100 schrieb mario chiari:
> Hi
> 
> I get the following error msg, and I am unable to open the mail:
> 
> Unable to retrieve message.
> 
> Cannot get message 1561467844.28747_17255.fedora-pc from folder
> /home/mario/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/.: No such
> file or directory
> <<
> 
> File 1561467844.28747_17255.fedora-pc:2,FS is within my 
> /home/mario/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/./cur .

I get that (or similar) messages, sometimes. It's a bug. Opening another
folder and then going back, often fixes it in my case. Or just delete the
message. It's (in my case) a leftover of some message which has been moved
to a different place, and can be removed.

Nothing serious (what I've experienced).

Bye,
Volker


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[Evolution] "Cannot get message", why?

[mario chiari]

Hi

I get the following error msg, and I am unable to open the mail:

>>
Unable to retrieve message.

Cannot get message 1561467844.28747_17255.fedora-pc from folder
/home/mario/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/.: No such
file or directory
<<

File 1561467844.28747_17255.fedora-pc:2,FS is within my 
/home/mario/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/./cur .

Any hint?
thanks
mario 



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Re: [Evolution] Re +1 : how insert a .gif into a mail

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Mon, 2020-11-16 at 23:36 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Much less the ISP enforced limits on the maximum size of both an
> > email and an attachment.  I can't remember the last time I sent
> > email oremail with attachment that was larger than 10MB as most of
> > theservices I operate through have a 10MB total size limit.
> Gmail is I believe the most popular email service in the world and
> had a limit of 25MB last time I looked. Certainly not 100MB.

Office365 is ~50MB;  so, still not 100MB.

> > One has to wonder if all the cloud file services (dropbox, box,
> > onecloud, google drive, etc) came about because of ever shrinking
> > limits on the total size of an email message.

I don't believe the limits have gotten lower.

It is simply that file-
sharing is a better answer in almost all use-cases.  One operational
problem with attachment sending is the untethered duplication.  The
target of a link [of any kind] can be updated, resulting in everyone
with the link have access to an updated document vs. the person who
"has the file" saved *somewhere* and continues to use it.

Aside - with evolution you can attach documents to appointments and
tasks.  So if you can share the CalDAV collection [calendar / to-do
list] you get an excellent read-mostly document sharing solution.

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Re: [Evolution] Re +1 : how insert a .gif into a mail

[mario chiari]

On Sun, 2020-11-15 at 20:21 +0100, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
wrote:
> On Sun, 2020-11-15 at 19:08 +0100, Andre Klapper via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2020-11-15 at 18:57 +0100, mario chiari wrote:
> > > ps.
> > > I am able to insert Angel's evolution.gif.
> > > My .gif is a animated one, 109.0 MB, and 272 frames.
> > > Do you  see  an issue?
> > 
> > Yes: "109.0 MB, and 272 frames." Good luck. :)
> 
> Hi,
> 
> the issue unlike is Evolution. It should be possible to insert or
> attache an   {animated,} image   of whatever size.
> 

any hint for a culprit?
I was just trying to insert into a new mail I was writing.
thanks cheers
mario  

> Regards,
> Ralf
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Re: [Evolution] Mismatch between email message list and content

[Andre Klapper via evolution-list]

On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 03:12 +, Lev Lafayette via evolution-list
wrote:
> Using Evolution 3.18.5.2, Ubuntu 16.04.7 LTS.
>
> My Message List and Preview Pane are out-of-whack for one account.

Your five year old Evolution version has some five year old bugs. :)

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2019-February/msg5.html
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2015-July/msg00164.html
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2014-October/msg00150.html

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Re: [Evolution] Printing Mail to PDF

[Andre Klapper via evolution-list]

Hi,

On Mon, 2020-11-16 at 11:24 +, John Murrell wrote:
> When I print mail from Evolution as a PDF file any hyperlinks in the
> mail message are shown as text and can not be clicked on to follow
> them.

A plain text email? Or a HTML email?

> Is this a problem in Evolution or in my (Linux Mint) PDF printer ?

Hard to say. Which exact Evolution version?

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[Evolution] Printing Mail to PDF

[John Murrell]

When I print mail from Evolution as a PDF file any hyperlinks in the
mail message are shown as text and can not be clicked on to follow
them.

Is this a problem in Evolution or in my (Linux Mint) PDF printer ?

Being able to print to a PDF with active links would be a lot easier
than copying and pasting the original message or appointment into a
writer document so I can open it on another computer.

Thanks

John Murrell
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