Re: [Evolution] unread messages

2022-10-31 Thread Bart Hollis
Well, that was easy!

Thank you so much!

Bart

On Sun, 2022-10-30 at 07:31 +0100, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 1. Select the folder
> 2. On top, below the tool bar is a search bar and on the left side of
>    the search bar is a box. Click the box and select "All Messages".
> 
> Instead of clicking and selecting, it's also possible to use the
> scroll
> wheel of the mouse , when the mouse cursor hovers over the box. You
> much
> likely moved the scroll wheel of the mouse by accident, when the
> mouse
> cursor was in this position.
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf
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[Evolution] unread messages

2022-10-29 Thread Bart
I'm using evolution version 3.42.4 which is the version supplied by
openSUSE Leap 15.4

I have several email addresses and have created several folders that
show in the Saved Messages panel.  There are quite a few message
filters that sort my messages into the various folders.  All is working
well with one exception:  New messages received for one of the folders
show the bold folder name as expected but I cannot access these
messages unless I go to Folder-> Mark All Messages as Read.  I can then
access the new messages normally except they are, of course, shown as
having been read.  This happens on only one particular folder and
everything else is working just as it should.

This problem showed up one day, just all of a sudden.  I don't remember
making any changes or seeing any warnings.  It happened while I was
running Leap 15.3 (I don't remember the version of Evolution.)  I
didn't bother with it as I knew the upgrade of Leap would be released
shortly.  Obviously, the upgrade didn't fix it.  I'm guessing there is
a problem in the database file used by Evolution.  Is there a "repair"
command I can run to fix this?

Bart
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Re: [Evolution] Can't receive POP mail, Socket I/O timeout.

2017-02-24 Thread Bart Maguire via evolution-list
Checking "Disable support for all POP3 extensions" does not work for me
trying to get my mail from the Yahoo server.
Worked up until two weeks ago, still works in Claws email with the same
settings.

Evolution 3.12.9 on Linux
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[Evolution] set margins when printing emails?

2016-11-28 Thread Bart Vliegen
Hi,

Is there a way to set the margins when I print an email? 

Evolution 3.22.2

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Re: [Evolution] syncing Gmail contacts

2016-11-27 Thread Bart Vliegen
Milan Crha schreef op vr 25-11-2016 om 09:11 [+0100]:
> On Fri, 2016-11-25 at 08:45 +0100, Bart Vliegen wrote:
> > Now I want to remove the old, non-functioning Google address
> > book, but I can't seem to find how. Evolution 3.12.9. Any advice?
> 
>   Hi,
> there is no UI part for it, unfortunately. What you do is that you
> open:
>~/.config/evolution/sources/
> then you'll find one of the .source files which references the Google
> contacts and you'll move that file away (do not delete it, just in case
> you'd pick a wrong one). You can search the files for the 'Google'
> keyword (case insensitively), one of them will contain a line with
>[Address Book]
> most likely with
>BackendName=google

That worked. Thank you Milan.

Cheers,
Bart

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Re: [Evolution] syncing Gmail contacts

2016-11-24 Thread Bart Vliegen
Bart Vliegen schreef op do 24-11-2016 om 19:02 [+0100]:
> Milan Crha schreef op wo 23-11-2016 om 14:45 [+0100]:
> > it looks like you didn't try to search the archives with the above URL,
> > neither GNOME's bugzilla, because otherwise you'd know the answer. You
> > may even get pretty good answers with "Gmail contacts", eventually
> > "Google contacts" in this list archive. It's a pita to repeat it again
> > and again...
> > 
> > ...and again: Use GNOME Online Accounts (GOA), that provides OAuth2.
> > You can even enable only Contacts part in GOA, and use the rest from
> > within the evolution. As you do not use GNOME, just run/install
> > gnome-control-center from where you can access Online Accounts.
> 
> Sorry about the pita, but I was under the impression that the use of GOA
> is deprecated (as Benjamin writes in his reply). I now understand that
> this depends on the functionality (contacts or calendar) and version of
> Evolution. So, thanks everybody for clearing that up.

I got Google Contacts working using Gnome Online Accounts only for
contacts. Now I want to remove the old, non-functioning Google address
book, but I can't seem to find how. Evolution 3.12.9. Any advice?

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] syncing Gmail contacts

2016-11-24 Thread Bart Vliegen
Milan Crha schreef op wo 23-11-2016 om 14:45 [+0100]:
> it looks like you didn't try to search the archives with the above URL,
> neither GNOME's bugzilla, because otherwise you'd know the answer. You
> may even get pretty good answers with "Gmail contacts", eventually
> "Google contacts" in this list archive. It's a pita to repeat it again
> and again...
> 
> ...and again: Use GNOME Online Accounts (GOA), that provides OAuth2.
> You can even enable only Contacts part in GOA, and use the rest from
> within the evolution. As you do not use GNOME, just run/install
> gnome-control-center from where you can access Online Accounts.

Sorry about the pita, but I was under the impression that the use of GOA
is deprecated (as Benjamin writes in his reply). I now understand that
this depends on the functionality (contacts or calendar) and version of
Evolution. So, thanks everybody for clearing that up.

Cheers,
Bart

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[Evolution] syncing Gmail contacts

2016-11-23 Thread Bart Vliegen
I am using Evolution 3.12.9 on Debian Jessie. I have set up Gmail using
Evolution, not Gnome Online Accounts (I am using the XFCE desktop).

Mail and calendar work fine, but I can't sync my Google contacts. I get
a message saying Evolution can't open this address book, because of an
invalid URI or unavailable server, resource not found,
https://developers.google.com/accounts/docs/AuthForInstalledApps (this
is my translation of the Dutch message).

When I go to this google url, it says:
Important: ClientLogin has been officially deprecated since April 20,
2012 and is now no longer available. Requests to ClientLogin will fail
with a HTTP 404 response. We encourage you to migrate to OAuth 2.0 as
soon as possible.

I assume that this issue was fixed in later versions of Evolution. When
I was using Evo 3.22.x on Debian Stretch (testing version) I could sync
my Gmail contacts in Evolution.

Since Evolution is not in Debian backports, does this mean that I can't
sync my Gmail contacts while I am using the current stable Debian
release Jessie without installing a newer version of Evolution from
outside the official Debian repositories?

Regards,
Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Gmail integration w. Evolution

2016-11-21 Thread Bart Vliegen
Milan Crha schreef op ma 21-11-2016 om 14:50 [+0100]:
> On Sat, 2016-11-19 at 13:29 +0100, Bart Vliegen wrote:
> > I found out that it isn't the IMAP namespace, but the IMAP server
> > directory that is set in Thunderbird. I can't find this setting in
> > the /sources files. Is it possible to set the IMAP server directory
> > in Evolution?
> 
>   Hi,
> I'd say it's just a different software (Thunderbird versus Evolution)
> and different terminology for the same thing. Try what I suggested and
> you'll see. Either it'll work, or not. You can always revert the
> change.

I tried that before (editing the /sources-files, rebooting etc), it
didn't work. 

regards,
Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Gmail integration w. Evolution

2016-11-19 Thread Bart Vliegen
On Sat, 2016-11-19 at 13:17 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sat, 2016-11-19 at 13:29 +0100, Bart Vliegen wrote:
> > I am now using the latest version on Debian stretch.
> 
> Please state the Evolution version explicitly, using Help->About.
> "The
> latest version on Debian stretch" means nothing to most people on the
> list.

Point taken. 3.22.2
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Re: [Evolution] Gmail integration w. Evolution

2016-11-19 Thread Bart Vliegen
On Mon, 2016-10-31 at 12:39 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:
> it sounds like you set a different IMAP namespace in the Thunderbird.
> Evolution's IMAP can do it too, it's only hidden from the UI since
> some
> older version (years ago). There is a plan to add some "Advanced
> IMAP"
> settings in the UI, but there is no time frame when it would be.
> 
> Anyway, back to the point: depending on the way you configured your
> account, either in the Evolution itself, or using GNOME/Ubuntu Online
> Accounts, (the later possibly not available in your OpenSUSE) search
> either
>    ~/.config/evolution/sources/
> or
>    ~/.cache/evolution/sources/
> 
> for *.source files which contain a line
>    [Imapx Backend]
> and also reference your Gmail address. Under that line you can see
> several keys, while the two you are looking for are:
>    Namespace=
>    UseNamespace=false
> 
> You write to the first the same thing your wrote to the Thunderbird,
> then you also change the second to be:
>    UseNamespace=true

I found out that it isn't the IMAP namespace, but the IMAP server
directory that is set in Thunderbird. I can't find this setting in the
/sources files. Is it possible to set the IMAP server directory in
Evolution? I am now using the latest version on Debian stretch.

Regards,
Bart
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Re: [Evolution] Gmail integration w. Evolution

2016-11-15 Thread Bart Vliegen
Benjamin Selzer schreef op di 01-11-2016 om 19:39 [-0400]:
> I understand. He doesn't want the Gmail folders as a SUB of Gmail. He
> wants them on the same level as Inbox, etc. It's annoying they're in
> a sub called Gmail.

That's it. I enclosed screenshots of Thunderbird and Evolution so you
can see the difference. It's no big deal, it just looks better if all
the Gmail folders are on the same level as Inbox (called Postvak IN in
Dutch).

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Re: [Evolution] Gmail integration w. Evolution

2016-11-01 Thread Bart Vliegen
Milan Crha schreef op ma 31-10-2016 om 12:39 [+0100]:

>  sounds like you set a different IMAP namespace in the Thunderbird.
> Evolution's IMAP can do it too, it's only hidden from the UI since some
> older version (years ago). There is a plan to add some "Advanced IMAP"
> settings in the UI, but there is no time frame when it would be.
> 
> Anyway, back to the point: depending on the way you configured your
> account, either in the Evolution itself, or using GNOME/Ubuntu Online
> Accounts, (the later possibly not available in your OpenSUSE) search
> either
>~/.config/evolution/sources/
> or
>~/.cache/evolution/sources/
> 
> for *.source files which contain a line
>[Imapx Backend]
> and also reference your Gmail address. Under that line you can see
> several keys, while the two you are looking for are:
>Namespace=
>UseNamespace=false
> 
> You write to the first the same thing your wrote to the Thunderbird,
> then you also change the second to be:
>UseNamespace=true
> 
> After that save the changes and re-login, eventually close/kill all
> evolution processes (ps ax | grep evolution), where especially
> evolution-source-registry is responsible to the .source file changes.
> Maybe to not be that hostile for the system, just try to close the
> evolution itself only and run it again first, which should be enough in
> your version too. Only if it won't help, then try the hard way. I would
> also run evolution from a terminal first, to see whether it'll claim
> anything odd there after your changes.

Thank you. I found the file and made the changes you suggested and
rebooted my machine. It didn't work the way I want it to, meaning that
[Gmail] is still a subfolder under my email-account, containing all of
my gmail-folders (which in GMail technically are labels, not real
folders, as far as I understand). Thunderbird has its own implementation
of Gmail-style IMAP. You can read about it here:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-gmail

For now I'll return to Thunderbird. Evolution is a nice piece of
software, and I wanted to use it because it integrates well with Gnome,
but in the end I am too used to my workflow using Thunderbird.

Thanks everyone who responded for your help.

Regards,
Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Gmail integration w. Evolution

2016-10-27 Thread Bart Vliegen
Thanks for the reply poc. You als have [Gmail] as a subfolder of your
account.

Basically what I want is for my Gmail-account to be the single account /
folder in Evolution. So my Gmail inbox is also my Evolution inbox. This can
easily be done in Thunderbird, I am just looking for a way to make this
work in Evolution.

I checked folder subscriptions, they won't accomplish what I want.

Regards,
Bart

2016-10-27 17:47 GMT+02:00 Patrick O'Callaghan <p...@usb.ve>:

> On Thu, 2016-10-27 at 13:57 +0200, Bart Vliegen wrote:
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > I am using Evolution 3.22.1 on the latest OpenSUSE Tumbleweed with my
> > Gmail account.
> >
> > I am trying to get all my Gmail folders to show up directly under my
> > Evolution account, instead of a separate [Gmail] folder which contains
> > all my Gmail folders.
> >
> > So, instead of:
> > >
> > > bvlie...@gmail.com
> >   Inbox
> >   |Gmail
> >   |All
> >   |my
> >   |Gmail
> >   |folders
> >   Junk
> >   Trash
> >
> > I would like:
> > >
> > > bvlie...@gmail.com
> >   Inbox
> >   |All
> >   |my
> >   |Gmail
> >   |folders
> >   Junk
> >   Trash
> >
> > Thunderbird implements this by letting me set the IMAP server directory
> > to [Gmail]. Evolution however doesn't seem to offer this possibility.
> >
> > I hope that my question is clear. Does anybody have an idea as how to
> > accomplish what I want?
>
> Not sure I understand. Mine looks like this:
>
> Gmail:
>  Inbox
>  Folder_A
>  Folder_B
>  [Gmail]:
>Bin
>Drafts
>Sent Mail
>etc. (shown for illustration, I don't actually subscribe to all of
> them)
>  Junk
>  Folder_X
>  Folder_Y
>
> IIRC I didn't do anything special to get this. Maybe play around with
> Folder->Subscriptions?
>
> poc
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[Evolution] Gmail integration w. Evolution

2016-10-27 Thread Bart Vliegen
Hello everybody,

I am using Evolution 3.22.1 on the latest OpenSUSE Tumbleweed with my
Gmail account.

I am trying to get all my Gmail folders to show up directly under my
Evolution account, instead of a separate [Gmail] folder which contains
all my Gmail folders.

So, instead of:
|bvlie...@gmail.com
Inbox
|Gmail
|All
|my
|Gmail
|folders
Junk
Trash

I would like:
|bvlie...@gmail.com
Inbox
|All
|my
|Gmail
|folders
Junk
Trash

Thunderbird implements this by letting me set the IMAP server directory
to [Gmail]. Evolution however doesn't seem to offer this possibility.

I hope that my question is clear. Does anybody have an idea as how to
accomplish what I want?

Regards,
Bart
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[Evolution] Evolution list moderator.

2015-04-27 Thread Bart
Andre,

I've used evolution for quite a while now and feel I should contribute
something in return.

I have not done this before but feel I could, with just a little
prompting, be able to be effective.

Holidays are very seldom a problem for me.  I do very little traveling.

If you think I could be of use, please feel free to reply and we'll set
something up.

Bart
montana_evolution_u...@hardinmt.us

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Re: [Evolution] Mailing list moderators wanted

2015-04-27 Thread Bart
On Mon, 2015-04-27 at 22:30 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:

 As a random criterion I looked at the activity of the last four years.
 And the sheer number of postings by Patrick O'Callaghan and Adam Tauno
 Williams is highly impressive, so they are now list moderators. :)
 
 But thank you to *everybody* who volunteered! 
 I really appreciate the help!
 
 Cheers,
 andre


Good Choice!

Congrats to Patrick and Adam!

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Right Clicking in To: Field deselects current selection.

2015-04-20 Thread Bart
Using 3.10.4, it does the same for me EXCEPT if I back the mouse up just
slightly until the pointer is within the selected text.  Then I get the
menu you wanted.  That seems logical to me as the mouse pointer is
outside of the selected text unless I back it up slightly.

Bart

On Mon, 2015-04-20 at 23:32 +0200, Axel Kittenberger wrote:
 In my case as I descried, if I select all of the text until line end
 it works as expected, if only selecting part of the text, the
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Re: [Evolution] Use of numbered items followed by tabs caused evolution 3.13.7 to crash

2015-03-22 Thread Bart
On Sat, 2015-03-21 at 09:19 -0400, John Lauterbach wrote:
 I was preparing a list of things my secretary and my Son are to do
 while I am on a business trip this coming week.

 I had ten lines of text each beginning with a numeral, followed by a
 period and a TAB space and then a single line of text.

 Every time I tried to send the e-mail evolution crashed.

 When I replaced each TAB space, with two single spaces, I could send
 the e-mail w/o evolution crashing.  I even tried closing all other
 jobs and rebooting.

 What am I doing wrong?

 John
 
Using Evolution 3.10.4 on openSUSE 13.1
I duplicated your message and had no problem.

Bart


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Re: [Evolution] Mailing list filters

2015-03-16 Thread Bart
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 09:48 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
snip

 That's why I dislike being directly sent replies to mailing list posts.
 It breaks things for me; it makes things difficult for me.  And I can
 explicitly say I don't want it to happen until I'm blue in the face, but
 it won't make any difference to anything, people will still keep doing
 what they think is the only way it should be done - or more likely
 what is most convenient for them.
 
 It's Monday morning and I'm grumpy ...
 
 P.
 

I agree with you on this issue.
.
.
.
Hope that makes your Monday a little better.
Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Mailing list filters

2015-03-13 Thread Bart
On Fri, 2015-03-13 at 15:36 +0100, Thomas Mittelstaedt wrote:
 Am Freitag, den 13.03.2015, 13:43 + schrieb Justin Musgrove:
  First off, I am new to the Mailing Lists, so the issue that I am having
  is probably related more to user error.
  
  Using Evolution 3.8.5 on CentOS 7.
  
  My issue is that I setup a Mailing List Filter for this Evolution
  mailing list, but the filter isn't working automatically. If I press
  ctrl-y then the message is processed properly. Filter should move the
  incoming emails to a folder. I used the context menu (CreateCreate a
  Filter Rule for Mailing List...) off one of the mailing-list emails. I
  ensured the Apply filters to new messages in Inbox on this server is
  ticked. Still the message are not properly being filtered. This seems
  like a simple task, yet I am unable to figure it out. 
  
 
 Have you checked in the filters (main Menu - Edit - Filters) that the
 new filter rule is there and triggers on incoming mails? Maybe it has
 gotten into outgoing mails.
 
I have found several times, I created a filter and had it not work
although it would work if specifically ran on the folder.  I was able to
get it to work by adding an action at the bottom of the list of actions,
stating to Stop Processing.  Can't figure why, but it does work.  My
policy is to add a Stop Processing action at the bottom of every filter
Just Because.  I think there was a thread about just this, some time
ago.

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Re: [Evolution] Edit an existing email?

2015-03-12 Thread Bart Hollis
On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 23:49 +, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
 On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 20:46 +, Emilio Recio wrote:
  Hello, the way around is to copy the email you want to annotate (it could 
  be your or someone else's email) 
  to your draft folder. After copying it there, open the email you just 
  copied. You should then be set to 
  Edit as new... as the feature from Thunderbird.
 
 Sure but I should not have to. I really would like to see this feature in a 
 future release.
 
  Jocke
 
  
  -e
  
  On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 15:26 +, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
   Sometimes I want to add comments to an existing email but
   I cannot find how to, if possible.
   

I guess I don't understand.  I sure wouldn't want you to be able to
modify a message I sent to you and claim it was my message!  And, if it
was your message originally, you obviously wouldn't be able to change it
once it's on my machine!  (Yay POP!)  So, why would you want to change a
message after the fact?

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Re: [Evolution] Can't save a meeting in my calendar

2015-02-03 Thread Bart
On Tue, 2015-02-03 at 22:09 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
 You need to start a terminal window within KDE.  It's called kterm or
 konsole or something like that in the menus.  Somebody who knows KDE
 better than me can say for definite.  If you still get an error saying
 it can't open the X display when you run Evolution then there is
 something else wrong - that is NOT a problem with Evolution and not
 something that is appropriate for the Evolution mailing list. (I suspect
 that you have something in your shell start up files that sets the
 DISPLAY variable.)
 
 P.
 
Pete is correct.  It is called konsole.

Start-Applications-Terminal-Konsole

Then, type evolution (without the quote marks), and press Enter.

He's correct again when he said if you get an error saying it can't open
the X display, it is not in evolution.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Automatically downloading all e-mails from IMAP server

2015-01-21 Thread Bart
On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 11:40 +0100, Karsten Kloss wrote:
 Sorry, but is POP3 not available? Change to POP3 and you have your
 backup. 
 
 regards
 Karsten
 

Oh oh!  You said the P word!  :)

The next 14 messages will be about how old, outdated, ugly, unusable and
several more degrading adjectives that style of receiving is.



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Re: [Evolution] Executing evolution logs the user out

2014-12-20 Thread Bart
On Fri, 2014-12-19 at 17:43 +, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)  
 
 Most of you are great most of the time.  However it only takes 1 rude
 post to sour a thread.  Usually it's about the 1st or 2nd response.
 If anyone apologised then it might make amends, even if it's not the
 person who was rude - but instead the person being rude seems to be
 applauded.  
 
 
 It is a problem that OpenSource is famous for and one of the reasons
 people give for avoiding it.  
 
 
 I feel like things have significantly improved this year on this
 mailing list.  Less flame-wars here against users, less bullying, less
 victimisation.  You have come a long way!  It's just a shame to see
 someone trying to be funny and failing at this time.  
 Regards from 
 Tom :)  
 
 
 
 
 On 19 December 2014 at 15:39, Pete Biggs p...@biggs.org.uk wrote:
 
  Which guys are you referring to? You seem to be under the
  misapprehension that those of us who try to answer questions
 here are
  all developers. Let me assure that the great majority of us
 aren't.
  We're mere users like you. Sometimes we answer questions and
 sometimes
  we ask them. It's called a user community, and asking
 questions properly
  is a great help to getting them answered.
 
 I really do sometimes wonder why we bother trying to help
 people.  I've
 come quite close to unsubscribing from this list a few times
 because I
 just can't be bothered with some of the s**t I've got from
 people.
 
 P.
 
I'm calling for an administrator to put an end to this.  Please.

To violate every rule of list etiquette and complain that someone else
is rude makes it hard for me to tolerate.  I am offended by this thread.

Admin, please?

Bart


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Re: [Evolution] evolution 3.2.3

2014-12-16 Thread Bart Hollis
On Mon, 2014-12-15 at 16:37 -0500, Theodore R Sloper wrote:
 Ooops! I meant 3.10.4.
 
 On Sun, 2014-12-14 at 19:46 +, tslop...@juno.com wrote:
  Is there any way to get evolution 3.2.3?
  Ted

3.10.4 is the version offered in the openSUSE 13.1 repositories.  Don't
know if that helps you or not, but there it is.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Keyring problems (again)

2014-11-18 Thread Bart
On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 17:00 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


 This is Evo 3.10.4 on Fedora 20. I'm running KDE 4.14 for what it's
 worth. I haven't changed any part of my Evo configuration in several
 months, though I do update my system (from the stable repos) every
 morning.
 
 
 About a week ago, Evo starting asking for my account password whenever
 I started up, and again every time I tried to send a message.
 
 
 I went into Seahorse and checked both the Login and Default passwords.
 They are both set to my KDE login password. I deleted all entries
 starting with Evolution, logged out and in again, and tried again.
 
 
 Now Evo asks for the account password on starting, but will not accept
 the password I give it (which of course is the correct one and is the
 same I used to log into Gmail to send this). Before anyone asks, my
 CAPSLOCK key is not on ...
 
 
 I find there are often 2 or 3 gnome-keyring-d processes running. One
 of them corresponds to environment variables GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL
 and GNOME_KEYRING_PID. The others appear to be left over from previous
 login sessions, even though I have the following:
 
 
 cat .kde/shutdown/stop-custom.sh 
 #/bin/sh
 if [-n $GNOME_KEYRING_PID]; then
 kill $GNOME_KEYRING_PID
 fi
 
 
 I tried completely removing .gnome2/keyring2/*. No difference.
 
 
 Restored from backup. No difference (and file ownership and
 permissions appear to be correct).
 
 
 Tried logging out of KDE and going into Gnome. Same behaviour as
 regards Evolution.
 
 
 I'm out of ideas. Any suggestions?
 
 
 poc

I'm using openSuse 13.1 with Evo 3.10.4 and KDE only 4.11 and am also
using the Gnome keyring.  I do not have this problem.  I also have Gnome
installed and still do not see the problem UNLESS my mail server is
unreachable for whatever reason.

First, are you SURE your mail server is up and running correctly?
Have you tried with a different user?  Have you tried removing Gnome
keyring and telling Evo to use the KDE password utility?

Do you want to contact me off list and I'll set up a temp email account
to try?

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.10.4 -- CANNOT MAKE VALID BACKUP FILE

2014-09-08 Thread Bart
On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 10:08 -0400, John Lauterbach wrote:
 I need to transfer my Evolution 3.10.4 to another PC.  This is urgent
 and cannot be ignored.
 
 Every time I make the backup file and transfer to the other PC using
 several different USB devices including high capacity ( 3 TG) backup
 drives from Toshiba and WD Passport, I get Invalid Backup File when I
 attempt to restore my data.  Archive size is 4.6 GB.
 
 What do I need to do to get a valid backup file?
 
 Thank you,
 
 John
 
 
Sounds like you are hitting the file size limit for the file system you
have on your backup device.  Perhaps if you format your backup device to
ext4 or the like.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Errors receiving mail via POP

2014-09-03 Thread Bart
On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 10:26 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
snip
 I suspect that 90% of the problems reported are with IMAP because 90%
 of people use IMAP.

I'm not so sure.  Most of the people I know use web mail.  They do
everything through their browser.  Is that IMAP?  I want no part of
that!

 
 Basically POP is a method of getting your mail from a server and on to
 your own computer.  That's it.  That's all it does.

No, not quite.  You're forgetting the deletion part of the process!  POP
does exactly what I want it to do!  If it is text, fine.  If it is HTML,
fine!  If it has an embedded image, fine.  If it has an attachment,
fine!  Send it to me and I, or rather my mail client, will decide what
to do with it.


   All the POP
 implementation on Evo does is to stick the mail into your On this
 computer folders and then plays with it from there.

Exactly!  And, it does it very well, thank you.

   If, theoretically,
 Evo abandoned it's POP components and you had an external method of
 doing the same thing, would that be a workable thing for you? [Please
 note, I am not a dev, there is no such proposal, I am not proposing it.]

Why, why, why is everyone so intent on making me, and others like me,
change a system we are perfectly happy with, to one you think is
Better?  NO!  It would not be to my liking!  I would not like an
external system that I would have to set up and make additional efforts
to download things that are already downloaded via POP, or send a bunch
of commands to some computer somewhere, which will record everything I
do, which messages go where, which folders I create, which ones I
delete, what type of messages I keep, and then sell all this info to
some company, or give it to some govt agency.

Evolution is, and has been for a long time, my mail client of choice.
It downloads messages from 17 POP accounts, puts them in folders as
determined by the filters I created, and lets me read and reply to them.
I really like Evolution even though it contains a bunch of stuff I don't
use... like the calendar... and the memos...  and Tasks  and
Microsoft Outlook connectivity and... and... and...  Oh!  IMAP!  :)

Leave my POP alone!

Now.  I'm done.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Errors receiving mail via POP

2014-09-02 Thread Bart
snip
 But, to inject a bit of controversy into this, is the usage of the very
 old POP protocol sufficient that the devs should spend time looking at
 this sort of issue?

Absolutely!

   Why do people still use POP, when IMAP is a more
 complete solution and things like offline-imap and fetchmail exist for
 those who work in an offline environment?
 

They use POP because they do not want their mail residing on someone
else's computer.

I know it passes through other systems, but I have some messages that
reside for long periods of time in various email folders for various
reasons.  And, I feel a lot more secure doing so.

If I lose my phone, or my iPad, or my laptop, I don't need to worry
about my email accounts.

Besides, 90 percent of the problems I see here have to do with IMAP.
I've been using POP for years and years and have very, very little
trouble.  So, count me among the POP fans.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Errors receiving mail via POP

2014-09-02 Thread Bart
On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 13:27 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 05:01 -0600, Bart wrote:
 Why do people still use POP, when IMAP is a more
   complete solution and things like offline-imap and fetchmail exist
  for
   those who work in an offline environment?
   
  
  They use POP because they do not want their mail residing on someone
  else's computer.
 
 So download it to your own computer using fetchmail or offline IMAP mode
 (or just dragging it between folders). IMAP doesn't force you to leave
 it on a server. There is no feature of POP which IMAP does not also
 have.

Why perform an additional step?  POP does that for me.

 
  I know it passes through other systems, but I have some messages that
  reside for long periods of time in various email folders for various
  reasons.  And, I feel a lot more secure doing so.
  
  If I lose my phone, or my iPad, or my laptop, I don't need to worry
  about my email accounts.
 
 If you lose a device and the device is not properly secured then your
 account is at risk whether it's IMAP or POP. Clearly in the IMAP case
 you are also trusting the server admin to take proper care of your
 stored mail, but you don't have to leave it there if you don't want to
 (see above).
 

Not if the accounts don't exist on the portable device.  My email goes
to my desktop.  My phone has one IMAP account that doesn't exist on my
desktop.

I have tried using IMAP and frankly see no advantage at all.  I only see
problems.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.13.3

2014-07-14 Thread Bart
On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 11:21 +1000, Wasserland wrote:
 I am new to this list . . . 
 
 
 I am using Ubuntu 14.04.  I decided to install  3.13.3 because I was
 having trouble with Ubuntu's the default version of Evolution. ie
  Couldn't get Junk/Spamassassin working.
 
 
 I know 3.13.* is still in development but it seems to work okay
 nevertheless.  My main problem is the font size on the compose mail
 screen.  I seems stuck on a small font despite my attempts to change
 that in preferences.  So I have a few questions please:
 
 
 1. Is this a bug or is there a solution within 3.13.*
 
 
 2. I can't find a .deb file to go to the latest stable version 3.12.*
 
 
 3. Will I lose my current mail, addresses book etc if I change
 backward?
 
 
 4.  Does this font come out small as you see it on your monitor?
 
 
 Thank you,
 Dave W
 _

Welcome to the list!  First, if you use Plain Text, as is requested by
this list, the problem pretty much goes away.

However...  I just know you're going to say But most of my messages are
in HTML  :)  So are mine!

The small text on my screen, when I compose a message, is somewhat of a
pain. I agree.  But, when I get a message back, as a reply, I see that
the text is fairly properly sized.  I guess we are both obsessing about
a mostly non-existing problem.  Besides, we can't control what fonts are
installed on the recipient's computer.  Our carefully crafted message
can be rendered unreadable if we were to use a font that does not exist
on the end computer.

As an example, I had my wife send me a message, from her Windows
machine, using Thunderbird, and composed in Cooper Black.  When I
received it, Evolution disregarded the font as it is not installed on my
machine and showed the message in the regular font we see.

I would still like to be able to chose which font is used so I could
make sure I am sending MS TT type fonts and would know pretty much what
the end user will see.

Can't help you with the downgrade question.  Sorry.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Specifying the font typeface

2014-06-04 Thread Bart
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 11:34 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 10:15 +0100, Andrew Beverley wrote:
  I know it's better not to do so, but that's difficult to sell to an
  end-user when it can be done in other MUAs.
 
 Are those end-users aware that the recipient anyway has not the same
 fonts installed and that the mail by hook or by crook will look
 different ;)? In the Stone Age Letraset's and Mecanorma's dry-transfer
 lettering sheets for Helvetia/Arial already looked different.
 
 
It's lots more fun to watch the users argue with each other about crappy
looking messages than it is to explain to them about why that happens
and have them not believe you!  I personally like a serif font.  ;-)

I'm thinking it's hidden somewhere in the Gnome settings under default
font or the like and changing it will effect the entire system.

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[Evolution] Threading anomaly?

2014-05-27 Thread Bart
Evolution 3.10.2 - openSUSE 13.1 - KDE 4.11.5

I never noticed this before:

Today, I received a message from the list posted by Jimmy Montague
subject Evolution is dying.  The date and time say 27, May at 14:47
-0500 (1:47 my time)

Adam Williams posted a reply at 16:06 -0400  (2:06 my time)

Patrick O'Callaghan posted a reply at 14:47 -0500 (2:45 my time)

When I look at these messages in the message list window, with threading
turned on, and sorted by date, the reply from Patrick O'Callaghan is
shown above or before the reply from Adam Williams.

Looking at some other threads, they seem to be correct.  It seems that
sorting by date to evolution is not quite sorted by date to me.  What am
I missing?

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution is dying

2014-05-27 Thread Bart
On Wed, 2014-05-28 at 03:21 +0100, ref...@gmx.net wrote:
 These kind of response is pretty crap. 
 
 Q. I use program A on distro B and have problem X.
 A. Throw your setup into the bin, everyone knows that distro B is
 useless.
 
 The answer is not only unhelpful as it does not suggest any
 alternatives nor gives actual reason or evidence to support such
 drastic action, but it is also manifestly wrong in this particular
 situation. 
 
 OP, I have a problem like yours dt a very flaky mail server (Microsoft
 provided) which occasionally and without good reason locks me out with
 an erroneous message that my password is wrong. Evo will then start
 asking for passwords. I found the solution to be to cut Evo out of the
 mail collecting business. I use getmail and offlineimap instead for
 the mail collection and use Evo simply as a GUI for mail writing,
 reading and administering. Both mentioned programme will simply error
 out when the remote mail server flakes, but not go into a tail spin re
 wrong passwords like Evo.
 
 To check if your problem is similar to mine you would indeed need some
 log reading.or you could simply try it out. Less disruptive than
 changing a distro for spurious reasons
 
 Peter
 
snip

With apologies to the regulars on this list...

I've been on this list for several years now.  The observation I've made
is that running evolution on ubuntu is problematic.  I seems like that's
the distro that has the greatest of quirks.  Now, I can't believe that
everyone using ubuntu is somehow less intelligent or computer savy than
the rest of us, but

Using evolution on Fedora seems to be fine.
Using evolution on openSUSE seems to be fine.
Using evolution on Arch seems to be fine although Arch is not for the
novice.
You want to use Debian, use Debian, not a fork that includes spyware
(see Richard Stallman on ubuntu)

So, I'm sorry, I don't think his response was pretty crap (your words).

What's not good is top posting and using HTML on a tech list!

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Minor annoyance with views

2014-04-22 Thread Bart
On Tue, 2014-04-22 at 07:26 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
 On Fri, 2014-04-18 at 20:21 -0600, Bart wrote:
  Using 3.10.2 on openSUSE 13.1 and KDE desktop.
  
  When I start evolution, it opens with the main window the size it was
  when I last closed it.  I seem to be able to change any sizes of any of
  the panes and have them remain during the next start, except the preview
  pane, which is always way down at the bottom of the window, too small to
  actually see anything.  I have to grab the handle and move it up each
  time I start evolution.  I've tried saving the view as a custom view but
  still no difference.
  
  Am I missing something?
 
   Hi,
 I found similar bug reports in GNOME's bugzilla against Evolution, but
 all of them were quite old, like from 2.32.x or 3.2.x times.
 
 As a guess, would it be that you keep evolution maximized? Does anything
 change, if you unmaximize it and enlarge it by dragging the window
 border instead? I recall some changes along that, where restoring size
 of a maximized window could have similar side-effects. I do not recall
 when exactly landed a fix for that, unfortunately.
   Bye,
   Milan
 
No.  I very, very rarely maximize any window.  I have gnome installed
and the same problem exists for me when I use that desktop, so I don't
think it's a KDE problem.  Seems like someone besides me should be
whining though.

I remember a while back, I had the same problem, and with an update, it
was fixed.  Then, with another update, it reoccurred.  Oh, well...  it
certainly isn't the end of the world, just as I said, a minor annoyance.
I was hoping someone would have a simply do this fix.

Bart

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[Evolution] Minor annoyance with views

2014-04-18 Thread Bart
Using 3.10.2 on openSUSE 13.1 and KDE desktop.

When I start evolution, it opens with the main window the size it was
when I last closed it.  I seem to be able to change any sizes of any of
the panes and have them remain during the next start, except the preview
pane, which is always way down at the bottom of the window, too small to
actually see anything.  I have to grab the handle and move it up each
time I start evolution.  I've tried saving the view as a custom view but
still no difference.

Am I missing something?

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Evo/Linux-Friendly ISP

2014-04-16 Thread Bart
On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 12:08 +0100, G.W. Haywood wrote:
   Since your ISP is clearly incompetent,
 which means that it is very unlikely that they will be doing that, you
 could simply tell them that your copy of Evolution is running on a
 Windows box.  Then ask them for help.  They'll never know.

My wife just came over to see why I was laughing so loud!  Seems every
time I do that, I get caught because I have forgotten what pops up when
you do whatever in Windows!  So, although this suggestion is, to me, the
right response, be sure to brush up on Windows before doing it, or you
might get caught not telling the truth!

Bart

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[Evolution] Question about accounts

2014-03-08 Thread Bart
In my copy of evolution, (3.10.2), there is an account named On This
Computer of type Maildir.

I didn't create it, and I can't edit it, or see any settings or the
like.  It wasn't there, at least I couldn't see it, in earlier versions
of evolution.

Why is it there?  What's it do?  Doesn't seem to affect my use, I'm just
curious about it.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Question about accounts

2014-03-08 Thread Bart
On Sat, 2014-03-08 at 09:45 -0500, Matthew Barnes wrote:
 On Sat, 2014-03-08 at 13:56 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
   Why is it there? What's it do?  
  
  It's the toplevel node for local mail account folders.
 
 It also serves as a fallback mail store for saving sent mail and drafts
 or queuing outgoing mail, in case you're offline or your server can't be
 reached.  Additionally, it's where mail gets downloaded to if you have
 any POP3 accounts.
 
 Matthew Barnes
 
 
As my accounts are all pop accounts, I guess I better leave it alone!

It doesn't bother me, I've just wondered about it for a while, and
thought I'd ask.

Thanks for the reply.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Human readable entries in Seahorse

2014-02-15 Thread Bart
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 12:51 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
 On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 14:15 -0500, Matthew Barnes wrote:
  On Mon, 2014-02-10 at 11:45 -0500, Matthew Barnes wrote:
   On Mon, 2014-02-10 at 08:48 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
This one is a bit of a bugger [the cryptic names in Seahorse - even just
having an attached vanity name would be nice].
Are you aware of a bug#?
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/695744
  Just to follow up, this is fixed for 3.12.
  The Seahorse entries will show the account's name instead of its ID, and
  a background task in EDS will keep them up-to-date in the event that you
  rename an account.  The background task will also clean up old passwords
  from deleted EDS accounts.
 
 Awesome.
 
 It is really impressive the progress and enhancements that have been
 made in the last year regarding Evolution.  It is a significantly better
 application with every release.
 
 
+1

Out of curiosity, I occasionally look at other mail clients, and there
is none that I can find that fit my want list anywhere near as well as
evolution.  That includes those of other operating systems!

So, I'm taking this opportunity to again say thanks to the developers
for all your time and effort!

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Keyboard Shortcuts for Mark as Read and Unread?

2014-02-12 Thread Bart
On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 10:45 +, G.W. Haywood wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Andre Klapper wrote:
  On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 03:07 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:
   I checked the help pages to see if there's any way to mark read or unread
   using keyboard shortcuts but I could not find any.
   
   It does not exist or is it undocumented?
  
  Hmm, looks like it is not covered in
  https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-reading-keyboard-shortcuts.html
  but the shortcuts are displayed under Message  Mark As in Evolution:
  Ctrl+K and Ctrl+Shift+K.
 
 What do I have to do to fix that?
 
 I mean fix it myself, not file a bug that nobody will look at for
 the next five years.
 
 --
 
 73,
 Ged.

Easy!  Highlight the desired message, and push, on your keyboard, Ctrl
+Shift+K it you want the message marked as unread, or Ctrl+k if you want
it marked as read.  No need to wait five years at all!

Cheers

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Re: [Evolution] new version

2013-12-04 Thread Bart Hollis


-Original Message-
From: Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] new version
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 12:35:36 +0100
Mailer: Evolution 3.10.2 (3.10.2-2.fc20) 

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 03:37 -0700, Bart wrote:
 I can't get evolution-tray to work.  I miss it!  I have installed
 version 0.0.8-14.1.3 .  I tried version 0.0.8-41-5 but it didn't 
 work either, so I reverted to the version supplied with the 
 distribution.

Which desktop environment do you use? Also see
http://gnome.eu.org/index.php/Evolution_Tray for more info.

andre

Well, duh!  I guess I should have said I use KDE.  I know, I know!

But it used to work and I got pretty attached to it!  I'll look at the link you 
provided.  Thanks!

Bart

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[Evolution] new version

2013-12-03 Thread Bart



openSUSE released their latest version, 13.1.  Included is evolution
3.10.1 and naturally, this is what I'm now using.

My impressions are really positive and the installation/upgrade went
rather smoothly.

There is a new look; fonts, icons, and a few changes in locations of
things.  Don't know if that's due to efforts of the developers of
openSUSE or gnome/evolution but I like it anyway.

Two problems:  ( only! :) )
When I open evolution, the message preview pane is shrunken down to the
bottom of the window.  I can't find a way to make it stay in the
position I want.  This has been like this for several versions now.  It
didn't use to be be like this.

I can't get evolution-tray to work.  I miss it!  I have installed
version 0.0.8-14.1.3 .  I tried version 0.0.8-41-5 but it didn't 
work either, so I reverted to the version supplied with the 
distribution.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] new version

2013-12-03 Thread Bart


-Original Message-
From: Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org
Reply-to: awill...@whitemice.org
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] new version
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 06:39:07 -0500
Mailer: Evolution 3.10.1 

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 03:37 -0700, Bart wrote: 
 openSUSE released their latest version, 13.1.  Included is evolution
 3.10.1 and naturally, this is what I'm now using.

Same here. 

 My impressions are really positive and the installation/upgrade went
 rather smoothly.

Ditto.

 There is a new look; fonts, icons, and a few changes in locations of
 things.  Don't know if that's due to efforts of the developers of
 openSUSE or gnome/evolution but I like it anyway.
 Two problems:  ( only! :) )
 When I open evolution, the message preview pane is shrunken down to the
 bottom of the window.  I can't find a way to make it stay in the
 position I want.  This has been like this for several versions now.  It
 didn't use to be be like this.

I do not see that.  If it has been for several versions perhaps you have
a bad setting stuck somewhere.  Maybe look around in
org.gnome.evolution.mail with dconf-editor and see if anything looks
suspicious.

 I can't get evolution-tray to work.  I miss it!  I have installed
 version 0.0.8-14.1.3 .  I tried version 0.0.8-41-5 but it didn't 
 work either, so I reverted to the version supplied with the 
 distribution.

I believe evolution-tray does not work because there is no tray;  that
was a GNOME 2 thing. ??? Do you not get notifications via GNOME Shell's
notification from Evolution?  With GNOME 3.10 you can toggle
notifications on/off by application - perhaps it is just turned off.


I forgot to say I use KDE.  So I do have a tray.  I get no indication that 
there's anything wrong with it when I start evolution in a terminal.

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Re: [Evolution] I/O operation timing out

2013-12-02 Thread Bart Hollis
On Sun, 2013-12-01 at 18:42 +, Pete Biggs wrote:

 The bottom line is that the timeout is NOT Evolution failing, it is
 merely reporting a failure elsewhere in the system.

On my system, I have 12 email accounts.  All are POP.  I have both a DSL
connection through the phone company, and a cable connection through the
local cable company.  I have separate modems and use the same router,
changing only one setting and of course the cable between the router and
the modem.

When I use the DSL connection, all accounts work as expected.  When I
use the cable connection, I get timeout errors on seemingly random
accounts.  Different accounts each time I do a send/receive.

Therefore:  it is NOT evolution causing the problem, nor is it my
router.  It is something in the cable company's system causing the
problem.

I hope you have better luck getting a response from your carrier than I
have had.

Bart

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[Evolution] errors while running evolution

2013-11-23 Thread Bart
When I start evolution from a terminal, I get to see these errors.
Well, actually warning messages.  They continue every few seconds all
the time it is running.  Anyone know how I can correct this?

evolution 3.8.5 on openSuse 12.3 using KDE as a DM.

Bart




---
bart@Asus-990FX:~ evolution

** (evolution:5740): WARNING **: Error retrieving accessibility bus
address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files

(evolution:5740): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to register client:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

(evolution:5740): libebackend-WARNING **:
module_load: /usr/lib64/libgdata.so.13: undefined symbol:
soup_session_new_with_options
Failed to load
module: /usr/lib64/evolution/3.8/modules/module-cal-config-google.so

** (evolution-alarm-notify:5746): WARNING **: Error retrieving
accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown:
The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files
java version 1.7.0_45
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.4.3) (suse-8.24.2-x86_64)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.45-b08, mixed mode)

** (evolution:5740): WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf:
Timeout was reached

** (evolution:5740): WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf:
Timeout was reached

** (evolution:5740): WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Activation of
ca.desrt.dconf timed out

** (evolution:5740): WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Activation of
ca.desrt.dconf timed out

** (evolution:5740): WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf:
Timeout was reached

** (evolution:5740): WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf:
Timeout was reached

** (evolution:5740): WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf:
Timeout was reached

** (evolution:5740): WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf:
Timeout was reached



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Re: [Evolution] errors while running evolution

2013-11-23 Thread Bart
On Sat, 2013-11-23 at 12:04 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
I know I've seen a question like this before, so I did a quick search on
question with a reasonable answer.  I was just going to send you the
identical question: 
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2013-May/msg00166.html
All I can say is that Adam's answer to you 
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2013-May/msg00171.html
is probably as good as you are going to get without any detailed
Gnome application in a KDE environment without various Gnome bits and

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Well, I'm sorry for the repeated question, I didn't have the web site
bookmarked (I do now) and couldn't find that thread in my saved
messages.  I do appreciate that you looked it up and answered.  Truly
wish my memory was that good!

The original problem did not include the timeout, and that was what
bothered me this time.

I did manage to get it fixed though, there was a version mismatch in the
four dconf files.  I rely on the installation manager to resolve
dependencies but, this time something didn't work out.  Oh, well.

I understand though, about running gnome apps in KDE.  Then again, I
have no choice.  Kmail won't stay up and running, thunderbird won't
import evolution files, and evolution does everything I want, almost
always without problems at all.  So, I have no choice you see.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] I/O operation timing out

2013-11-05 Thread Bart


On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 10:44 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
 On Mon, 2013-10-28 at 15:26 -0600, Bart wrote:
  On Mon, 2013-10-28 at 11:00 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
   On Mon, 2013-10-21 at 18:58 -0400, Eric Beversluis wrote:
I now have Evo 3.8.5 on Fedora 19. So everything's up to date in Kansas
City. The problem persists. I'm doing 'send/receive' on three accounts,
  While connected to the DSL connection, everything works well.  However,
  when connected to the cable, I get a notice that the connection has
  timed out on random accounts.  That is, if I do a Send/Receive, one or
  more accounts will time out.  Not  the same ones, different accounts
  each time.  This leads me to think it is not in evolution, but in the
  internet connection provided by the cable company.
 
 This sounds to me like a bad or overloaded Enterprise-NAT is in the mix.
 If you reboot your cable-modem/router does it work immediately following
 that?  And then after awhile works less well?
 

No.  It seems to stay the same.  I've tried a different modem just to
eliminate that possibility.  Your explanation seems reasonable.  I do
have another problem with the cable that they (the cable company) do not
seem to be able to figure out.  I simply use the DSL connection most of
the time.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] I/O operation timing out

2013-10-28 Thread Bart
On Mon, 2013-10-28 at 11:00 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
 On Mon, 2013-10-21 at 18:58 -0400, Eric Beversluis wrote:
  I now have Evo 3.8.5 on Fedora 19. So everything's up to date in Kansas
  City. The problem persists. I'm doing 'send/receive' on three accounts,
  all the same domain, all hosted at omnis.com. I've done some traceroutes
  and my impression is that most if not all of the jumps take longer when
  the attempt times out. This presumably would mean that it's not a
  problem at the omnis.com end. So I repeat my earlier query: Is there
  some way to tell Evolution to wait longer before it times out? I've
  already set net.ipv4.tcp_syn_retries to 7, which is supposed to give
  about 90 seconds (per
  http://www.sekuda.com/overriding_the_default_linux_kernel_20_second_tcp_socket_connect_timeout).
  But I'm getting the timeout error after about 45 seconds and 60 seconds.
  And it's still intermittent--sometimes stuff downloads right away;
  sometimes only one or two accounts download and then it times out.
 
 Is this for an IMAP or POP account?
 
 If you run CAMEL_VERBOSE_DEBUG=1 evolution do you see anything about
 the timeout?  
 
 I'm not an expert but noodling around in the camel code in EDS I do not
 see anything that looks like a socket timeout; so I'd guess whatever the
 default is what the default is.
 

I have one thing to add about this situation.  I'm using evo 3.8.5 and
have 12 pop accounts.  I have both a cable connection and a DSL
connection at my location.  I can simply change the cable between the
router and the modem, make one change in the router settings, and I am
connected to either the cable or DSL.

While connected to the DSL connection, everything works well.  However,
when connected to the cable, I get a notice that the connection has
timed out on random accounts.  That is, if I do a Send/Receive, one or
more accounts will time out.  Not  the same ones, different accounts
each time.  This leads me to think it is not in evolution, but in the
internet connection provided by the cable company.

One other thing that may or may not be related.  I cannot configure my
router remotely when it is connected to the cable, but can when
connected to the DSL.  This occurs on different routers so it is not in
my system.  My cable ISP insists they do not block any ports and,
obviously, my firewall is not involved as everything works while
connected to DSL.

This internet stuff is so much fun!

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Composing RTL messages?

2013-10-16 Thread Bart
On Wed, 2013-10-16 at 09:58 +0200, Yo'av Moshe wrote:
 Hey,
 Just in case someone else finds this thread, I'll say I hacked GtkHTML
 (quite badly, as I'm no C programmer) to make all my messages RTL.
 
 
 It's a bad and dirty solution but it works for me.
 
 
 I really hope moving forward to WebKit in the composer would take RTL
 languages in account.
 
 
 
 Yo'av
 

Nope!  Not working.  This message is still LTR

Bart

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[Evolution] Evolution 3.8.5

2013-09-10 Thread Bart
I just upgraded from 3.8.3 to 3.8.5 without incident.  I'm running
openSUSE 12.3 with KDE as a WM.  There are just a few noticeable
changes.  Just enough to make evolution a little nicer, A little
smoother, faster, and easier to use.

I just wanted to thank the people who put in the effort to build this
product, and make it available.  It fits my needs almost perfectly!

I guess I should go to Gmone.org and post this there.  But, I know there
are a few developers on this list, and a bunch of people who are not
developers but do some pretty heavy tech support.  I wouldn't be able to
use this application without your efforts.  So, Thanks a bunch!

Lately, there have been some people here who really don't seem to
appreciate what is software is, does, and can do.  I fell sorry for
them.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Just give me the body - email

2013-09-03 Thread Bart
On Mon, 2013-09-02 at 10:47 +1200, Chris and Tracey wrote:
 Hi Bart, Pete and Matthew
 
 Ok - so what i understand so far is ...
 
 a) that Bart was able to write Code of sorts that helped him through
 various versions of Evo and printing issues?

No.  Bart didn't write anything for evolution (He's not at that level).

 b) The Printing option is more related to Gnome and GTK+ functions
 overall?

Kind of, yeah.  Additional functionality can, and has been, included in
the basic print dialog.  Matthew wrote a new version of the print dialog
that is to be included in a new release of evolution.

 c) that the printing options may or may not have the Dont print all
 headers option is other versions of Linux - such as Suse with the
 exception of other packages that are loaded for the OS in particular?

I'm not sure of that.  I have the options, you don't.  We are using the
same version of evolution.  I'm using openSUSE, you're using Mint.  I'm
using KDE, you're using Gnome (I think).  Seems like either you should
have the options, or I should not.

 d) That I cant just get a add/on option?

That's correct.

  I suppose I cant force and upgrade without other issues affecting the
 system either?

That's a definite maybe.  I upgraded mine, but I went to the gnome
repository of my distribution.  Evolution could be compiled with
static linking that would prevent it from looking for other libraries.
But then, you'd have to recompile it for every security update.  Not an
ideal situation.

 
 e) The OS distribution and versions related are subject to the
 Maintainers of the OS we use? 

Yes.
 
 How am I doing so far ;)
 Outcome then for me at this stage is - just use what i have until the
 next version is avail for Mint Debian?
 
Is this where I put in a plug for openSUSE?

How about highlighting the body of the message, pasting it into
something like Kate (Oh wait...  gedit) and printing that?  A couple of
extra steps, but might save a tree or two.

 Thanks everyone.
 


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Re: [Evolution] Evo Printing - Just the Body wanted

2013-08-31 Thread Bart
On Sat, 2013-08-31 at 09:43 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:
 On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 04:45 -0600, Bart wrote:
  I'm using 3.8.3, but I think it has to do with the versions of the
  gnome libraries.  When I print a message, and the printer selection
  pop up appears, there's a tab (Headers) that allows me to choose what
  parts of the message headers I want printed.  All the header stuff was
  selected by default.
 
 FWIW, I rewrote the Headers tab in the print dialog from scratch for
 version 3.10 to actually work correctly, as I think it was a bit busted
 in the 3.8.x series.  Didn't actually honor your custom header selection
 or something like that.  It required substantial code refactoring to get
 it to work; I felt it was too invasive to backport to 3.8.x.
 
 Matthew Barnes
 
 
First, thanks a lot for your reply, and especially for the work you did!

Had you not replied, I would have answered that the print dialog was
part of the general gnome package, not evolution.  OP said he was using
3.8.3 and apparently on Mint.  I'm using 3.8.3 on openSUSE and the print
dialog gives me the option of printing just the message.  And it works!

Does the print dialog allow you to send options to it from the
application?  I guess it must or they're would be nothing for you to
re-write.  

Without listing all the various versions of all the gnome files on my
system, and his, is it possible for me to have newer versions of files
than the OP has?  And still have everything work?  Could the fact I'm
using KDE have anything to do with it?

Got me curious now.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Idealism face plants against asphalt [Was: downloads page]

2013-08-26 Thread Bart
On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 16:13 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
 On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 20:54 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:

  Do you have a list of distros i can use Evolution on?  
 
 Install openSUSE
 zypper ar -f obs://GNOME:STABLE:3.8/openSUSE_12.3 GS3
 zypper dup --from GS38
 
 Works great.  I'm always as close to current as I want to be.

OR, if you're not comfortable with the terminal:
Click yast
Click Manage Software
Search evolution
Click Evolution check box
Click Finish

Yast is considered by many, if not most, to be one of the best reasons
to choose openSUSE over another distribution.

 
 All I know about other distros is that Ubuntu people are constantly 
 constantly griping about how that linux-for-humans distributions is 
 borking them up [and at the same time saying it is awesome...].

Hear, hear!  I installed and tried Ububtu and found it unstable.  Not
awesome at all.  Then again, it was free for the downloading.  I tried
it, didn't care for it, and so removed it.  At no time did I join their
forum to complain and demand that it be changed to suit my liking.

 I've nominated a motto for openSUSE of LINUX for people who need 
 to get work done, but I that probably is two much of a snub. :)

It is however, exactly why I use, and have used it now for quite a long
time (since 8.1).  And, I've never compiled anything.  The one or two
times I tried with some esoteric package, and failed, someone on the
openSUSE forum jumped right in, compiled it for me and provided the
binary within hours of asking.

In all these years, I've never felt the need to complain to the people
who (mostly without financial compensation) provide functional, secure,
stable software for me to use at the cost of a simple download.  It
would never occur to me to threaten them with the removal of their
software and the use of a competitor's product, as I'm sure most
developers of FOSS view this with the same feeling of humor as I.

I'll sure be pleased when this thread expires!

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Evo Printing - Just the Body wanted

2013-08-23 Thread Bart
On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 11:24 +1200, Chris and Tracey wrote:

 Running Evo 3.4.4, Although I print a few emails i really don't want
 all the Sender Recipient lines and stuff underneath. This takes up
 nearly 1 page (30lines), and I only want the message body. 
 How can i stop this being printed all the time?
 
 Thanks
 Chris 

I'm using 3.8.3, but I think it has to do with the versions of the gnome
libraries.  When I print a message, and the printer selection pop up
appears, there's a tab (Headers) that allows me to choose what parts of
the message headers I want printed.  All the header stuff was selected
by default.

Hope this helps.

Bart
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Re: [Evolution] Showing a contact's picture when an email is received from them

2013-08-12 Thread Bart Hollis
On Mon, 2013-08-12 at 11:23 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:

 I rewrote the feature from scratch for Evolution 3.8 to solve the
 deadlocking issues, and for 3.10 I've added Gravatar integration to
 supplement the address book photos.
 
 Matthew Barnes
 
 
It may seem a small issue to some, but it's one of the things I really
like about Evolution.  Thank you for your efforts!

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Minor annoyance with scroll wheel

2013-08-07 Thread Bart Hollis
On Mon, 2013-08-05 at 06:27 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
 On Sun, 2013-08-04 at 17:37 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
  My scroll wheel works in the compose window unless I highlight some
  text, after that the scroll wheel no longer appears to do anything.
 
   Hi,
 right, this particular part is fixed with 4.6.6 of gtkhtml3 (you have
 4.6.5). Patrick seems to get a different issue, unfortunately.
   Bye,
   Milan
 
  evolution-3.8.3-1.1.x86_64
  libgtkhtml-4_0-0-4.6.5-1.1.x86_64
  libgtkhtml-editor-4_0-0-4.6.5-1.1.x86_64
 


I cannot reproduce your problem.  Perhaps I don't quite understand your
method of producing it.

Here is what I did:
I opened a new message.
I wrote a line of text.
I inserted several return characters.
I inserted another line of text.
I highlighted the return characters and the last line of text.
I copied the block
I inserted it numerous times so it went below the bottom of the window.
I highlighted some text and used the scroll wheel of my mouse to test
it's function.  It worked as it should have.

As I was creating this reply, I highlighted and copied the above line
showing the version of evolution as it is the same as mine.  I copied it
and pasted it in my version of versions.  My mouse wheel still works
properly.



I am using openSUSE 12.3
KDE 4.10.5 release 1
evolution-3.8.3-1.1-x86_64
/usr/lib64/libgtkhtml-4.0.so.0
/usr/lib64/libgtkhtml-4.0.so.0.0.0
/usr/lib64/libgtkhtml-editor-4.0.so.0.0.0
/usr/lib64/libgtkhtml-editor-4.0.so.0

Hope this information helps somehow.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] How would you feel about annual instead of semi-annual releases?

2013-07-28 Thread Bart
On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 13:16 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:
 The Evolution team is considering moving from our traditional 6 month
 release cycle to a 12 month release cycle starting next March, and is
 soliciting feedback from the user community.
 
snip

That would work for me.  I'm more concerned with stability than bigger
numbers.  When it works, I'm reluctant to make changes and tend to stay
with the release I'm using.

Whatever you decide, I'm just happy to have Evolution!

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] OT: Warning message about HTML

2013-07-22 Thread Bart
On Mon, 2013-07-22 at 11:35 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 It's a pity that Evolution usually does miss to automatically use the
 wanted account :(.
 

I have gotten into the habit of checking the header info before I even
completely decide what to type.  I check the From, cause if I use the
wrong account, it can be embarrassing, then the To, cause if I send it
to the wrong person it can be really, really embarrassing, and then I
remove all the Fwd fwd, Fwd, fwd from the Subject.  I'd be afraid that
if I relied on Evo to pick the correct account, I'd be embarrassed when
it finally made a mistake and I missed it.

My wish is that it were better at picking the Plain Text / HTML format
when replying.  Then again

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] OT: Warning message about HTML

2013-07-20 Thread Bart Hollis
On Fri, 2013-07-19 at 18:42 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 My apologies for the OT. Bart, I agree that Evolution shouldn't nanny
 us, IOW if you want to use HTML and everything is set up to do so, then
 Evolution shouldn't bother you by asking, if you're really sure.
 
 However, reconsider to write plain text mails only and use Evolutions 
 Performatted feature, if you e.g. want to send a long line with code or 
 whatever.
 
 HTML for emails is completely useless and for many recipient a PITA.
 Note that HTML formatting often already gets lost by missing fonts and
 not everybody does use a GUI or even a monitor/display to read emails.
 
 2 Cents,
 Ralf
 

Heh, heh, heh...  You're preaching to the choir!  I agree.

But!  If I can't insert pictures in the middle of a message, and put
little moving cuties in my sig line, and make the text different colors
and sizes, then I can't be part of the Windows crowd!  They look down on
me and make fun of me!

However, when they see Evolution can do all they can, and have instantly
selectable sig lines, for any accounts, they want to use Evolution!

Still can't get used to top posting though.

My apologies to the list.

Bart

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[Evolution] Warning message about HTML

2013-07-19 Thread Bart
Evolution 3.8.3
openSuse 12.3
KDE 4.10.3

I create a message using HTML format.
I choose a recipient from my contact list, the On This Computer -
Personal one.
I enter a subject
I click Send
I get a popup that asks if I really want to send this message in HTML
format although the recipient's information has the Want's to receive
HTML mail box is checked.

This does NOT happen on all contacts!  Just some.  I can't seem to
detect a pattern.

This is not a new problem, nor is it serious.  I was just, oh I guess
bored, and decided to ask about it.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Minor annoyance with scroll wheel

2013-07-19 Thread Bart
On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 00:44 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 I'm using a wired USB mouse and sometimes I can't scroll the text inside
 messages, using the mouse wheel. Current Evo here is 3.8.3, but this
 already happened for earlier versions. DE is Xfce4.
 
I'm using a wired USB mouse and I have had no problems with the wheel
responding.  Current Evo is 3.8.3 and I don't remember having any
problems with earlier versions.  My DE is KDE 4.10.3

Just lucky I guess.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Can't setup evo for new user

2013-07-18 Thread Bart Steanes
Well actually it's Filtering new messages in 'Inbox' (68%complete) and
progressing at a rate of about 1% every 5 minutes (has been running
uninterrupted since my last bugzilla update several hours ago).

In the console I see:


(evolution:29189): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child
that doesn't believe we're its parent.

(evolution:29189): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child
that doesn't believe we're its parent.

(evolution:29189): evolution-mail-WARNING **:
mail_ui_session_lookup_addressbook: Timeout was reached

(evolution:29189): evolution-mail-WARNING **:
mail_ui_session_lookup_addressbook: Timeout was reached

(evolution:29189): evolution-mail-WARNING **:
mail_ui_session_lookup_addressbook: Timeout was reached

(evolution:29189): evolution-mail-WARNING **:
mail_ui_session_lookup_addressbook: Timeout was reached

(evolution:29189): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child
that doesn't believe we're its parent.

(evolution:29189): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child
that doesn't believe we're its parent.

(evolution:29189): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child
that doesn't believe we're its parent.

(evolution:29189): evolution-mail-WARNING **:
mail_ui_session_lookup_addressbook: Timeout was reached

(evolution:29189): evolution-mail-WARNING **:
mail_ui_session_lookup_addressbook: Timeout was reached

(evolution:29189): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child
that doesn't believe we're its parent.

(evolution:29189): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child
that doesn't believe we're its parent.

(evolution:29189): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_entry_set_text: assertion `text !=
NULL' failed

(evolution:29189): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_entry_set_text: assertion `text !=
NULL' failed

(evolution:29189): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_entry_set_text: assertion `text !=
NULL' failed

(evolution:29189): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_entry_set_text: assertion `text !=
NULL' failed

(evolution:29189): evolution-mail-WARNING **:
mail_ui_session_lookup_addressbook: Timeout was reached

(evolution:29189): evolution-mail-WARNING **:
mail_ui_session_lookup_addressbook: Timeout was reached

(evolution:29189): evolution-mail-WARNING **:
mail_ui_session_lookup_addressbook: Timeout was reached

(evolution:29189): evolution-mail-WARNING **:
mail_ui_session_lookup_addressbook: Timeout was reached

(evolution:29189): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child
that doesn't believe we're its parent.


Not sure what is wrong or how to diagnose slow performance.


On 18 July 2013 16:17, Milan Crha mc...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 10:38 +1000, Bart Steanes wrote:

  Ubuntu automatically created this:
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1202445
 

 Hi,
 I see you made some progress in your bug report:

   looks like this was some sort of packaging issue (un-installing evo,
   and reinstalling it has made it work again). Only confusing thig is
   that some packages say they are 3.8.2 and some say they are 3.8.3.

 For that it's better if you have evolution-data-server, evolution, and
 possibly other evolution packages of the same version. It's to get any
 fixes as a complete set (some fixes needs changes in multiple evolution
 packages).

 The attached backtrace there shows some issue in nss, also involving
 talloc, thus it seems to be out of evolution itself, unless it's a
 fallout of:
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=703991
 but that's just a wild guess.

 Anyway, good you made it running.
 Bye,
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[Evolution] Can't setup evo for new user

2013-07-17 Thread Bart Steanes
running Ubuntu 13.04 with Evo 3.8.3

(Had previously run add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3;
apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade to Evo 3.8.2, recently
received update to 3.8.3).

Created a new unix account called evotest

Logged in, ran evolution in xterm:
--
evotest@takeone:~$ evolution

(evolution:5172): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_entry_set_text: assertion `text !=
NULL' failed

last line repeated 7 times

Segmentation fault (core dumped)
evotest@takeone:~$
--
Ubuntu automatically created this:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1202445

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution and multiple identites

2013-07-04 Thread Bart
On Thu, 2013-07-04 at 10:44 +0200, Paladin wrote:
 Hi,
 it is possible to set up Evolution with multiple identites?
 
 I'm trying to do so for some time now and I cannot find a way,
 googling doesn't help.
 
 What I need is to assign multiple email addreses to one accout,
 eg.
   john_...@example.org
   joh...@example.org
 
 And to be able to pick from which I want to respond (autopick based
 on folder would be nice but if not possible it's ok).
 
 Is it possible? And if yes, how?
 
 Thanks a lot,
 Paladin

Multiple identies, absolutely!  One account, no.  At least I don't think
so.  I'm trying to figure how you could use multiple email addresses for
one account.  To me, each email address would be a separate account.  If
you wanted messages from either account to go into a john folder, you
could create filters to do that.

Go to Edit-Identities and add an account for john_doe, using
john_...@example.org as the email address and the other information as
required, to fit.  Then repeat the process for joh...@example.org.

When you create a message, you'll see an arrow at the right of the From
field.  Use it to chose which address (account) you wish to use to send
the message.

When you reply to a message, it Evolution pick the account to whom the
message was addressed.  It actually works pretty good except for this
list.  ()

Hope this helps.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution and multiple identites

2013-07-04 Thread Bart
On Thu, 2013-07-04 at 12:23 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
snip
  Go to Edit-Identities
 
 Edit - Preferences 
 
 P.
 
oops!  Been a long day!

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Re: [Evolution] MS Server 2008

2013-07-04 Thread Bart Steanes
Yes. Unfortunately you need to update all of gnome to update evolution.
On 04/07/2013 7:01 PM, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote:

 [cut]
  add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
  apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
 Does this PPA contains also Evolution?
 [cut]

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Re: [Evolution] MS Server 2008

2013-07-01 Thread Bart Steanes
Upgrading to Evolution 3.8.2 on Ubuntu 13.04 has improved responsiveness
significantly (reply all now takes 3 seconds instead of 15 - 45). Thanks
very much for this.

For the record the upgrade procedure is:

add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade

In my case, I have not yet changed from evolution-mapi to the ews connector
yet connection with the office Exchange 2010 server appears to be working
fine (it did ask for my password again when connecting to the calendar but
after that it calendar appeared and seems to work normally).


On 26 June 2013 21:57, Milan Crha mc...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2013-06-25 at 20:00 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
  For our Ubuntu users which version of Evolution should i install and
  which extra add-ons?  The only remaining thing (afaik) that keeps one
  department in Outlook (and therefore on Windows) is the sharing of
  calendars.  If some of them keep using Outlook on Windows while the
  other 3 migrate then can they still share or do they all have to
  migrate at the same time as each other?

 Hi,
 as Andre's link describes, for newer (2007/2010/2013) Exchange servers
 is recommended to use evolution-ews.

 With at least 3.8.x version of it you also get calendar/book/folder
 sharing. It's slightly hidden. Each source or folder has its Permissions
 context menu option, and if you right-click the account name in the Mail
 view at the left folder tree, then you get Subscribe to folder of other
 user option, where you can access shared folders. You can either choose
 one of the standard folder names, or place in a folder ID, which is
 visible at (and can be copypasted from) the Permissions dialog. To
 access Public Folders use Folder-Subscriptions... from the top menu in
 the Mailer view.

 It doesn't matter if any your clients use evolution-ews or Outlook, as
 long as the server can handle the client requests properly. Which is not
 a problem for either of the two.
 Bye,
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Re: [Evolution] expression search / complex search phrase

2013-06-12 Thread Bart
On Wed, 2013-06-12 at 17:02 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:
snip
 From: Reid Thompson Reid Thompson ateb com
 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 12:06:58 +
 
 Top menu,select search, advanced search, add whatever conditions you
 wish.  If it's a search that you do often, then name it and save it for
 later re-use.
 
 Thanks Reid for your comment. So do I understand that this feature is
 not supported yet and there's no such search possibility?  In this
 case, maybe I shall put a bug report and ask for this feature?
 
 Regarding your workaround, my work includes dealing with few hundred
 people on a very large geopgraphic region with too many separate
 topics (I'm working as a proposals director). making a specific saved
 search does not seem possible due to the different search patterns I
 use daily. I would end up with at least tens of them but still can't
 address all as new ones will be added as we have new proposals to make
 :)
 The addon in Thunderbird is working very nice and quick for this function.
 
 --
 Emre

I wonder about your answer.  The search function, as it was described by
Reid Thompson, seems very flexible.  You can use just one condition, or
add as many as you may need. If you think you may need to use the same
search criteria again, you can name and save it.  If not, just use it
the one time and discard it when it is finished.

Although I think I understand your situation, I guess I don't quite
understand your problem.  Could you elaborate?

Bart

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[Evolution] I fixed a problem

2013-05-22 Thread Bart
openSUSE 12.3
KDE 4.10.3
Evolution 3.8.2

The problem:  After updating from Evolution 3.6 which was distributed
with openSUSE 12.3, to Evolution 3.8.1,, the plugin evolution-tray would
not work.

Today, I updated to Evolution 3.8.2, and saw an update to
evolution-tray, so I added that to the update.  It still didn't work.

I looked around for the location of the plugins, and found it
in /usr/lib64/evolution/3.6/plugins.  All by itself.  There is a
directory /usr/lib64/evolution/3.8/plugins.  So I copied
liborg-gnome-evolution-tray.so and org-gnome-evolution-tray.eplug from
to 3.6/plugins directory to the 3.8/plugins directory, shutdown and
restarted Evolution and evolution-tray is now working.

I know Evolution is a Gnome application, and I don't think
evolution-tray has a use in Gnome, and I don't know if it's unique to
openSUSE, and I don't know if this list is the correct place for this
message, but I find a lot of useful information here.  It's one of the
first places I look, so I thought I'd post this here.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Warnings from Evolution

2013-05-22 Thread Bart Hollis
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 06:14 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
 On Sun, 2013-05-19 at 16:36 -0600, Bart wrote:
  openSUSE 12.3
  KDE 4.10.3
  Evolution 3.8.1
  Had to restart my computer today.  
 
 Is there more the that story? :)

Nothing interesting.  Doing a bunch of changes, a new keyboard, Some
other hardware stuff.  Just wanted power off while doing it.
 
  Had the dickens of a time getting my
  contacts to load.  So, I started Evolution from a terminal. 
 
 You probably need to enable some debugging to get anything really
 interesting.
 https://live.gnome.org/Evolution/Debugging
 
  Got several
  -  Screen capture ---
  bart@Asus-990FX:~ evolution
  
  ** (evolution:3060): WARNING **: Error retrieving accessibility bus
  address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
  org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files
 
 Something is not installed.  But if you don't need accessibility you may
 not care.

I guess I don't.  I have no idea what or who org.freedesktop.DBus is or
why I'd want to access it.  That was kind of why I posted the message.
 
  (evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to register client:
  GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
  org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
 
 
 A GNOME session is not running.  Possibly because you aren't in GNOME.
 It seems like one should be created automatically,  perhaps something
 such as gnome-session is not installed?   I suppose this could break
 some things.

I show two packages available; gnome-session-default-session and
gnome-session-fallback-session.  Neither of these are installed.  I use
KDE as the default DM but I know I need some Gnome stuff for some Gnome
apps I use.  I had relied on openSUSE to install the needed dependencies
and start the required apps/services.

Actually, aside from some minor things, like the missing contacts, and
not picking up user accounts when replying, Evolution seems to be
working rather well.
 
 The following is pretty normal widget/Gtk noise.  They are bugs, I
 think, but very minor ones.  They wouldn't have anything to do with
 loading contacts.
 
  (evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but
  not visible
  (evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but
  not visible
  (evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but
  visible=0 child_visible=1 parent GtkBox 0x23e4280 mapped=1
  (evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but
  not visible
  (evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but
  visible=0 child_visible=1 parent GtkBox 0x23e4280 mapped=1
 

I kind of thought they might be.  Probably related to the window sizes
not being remembered between startups.

I really posted all this only because I thought the experts here might
recognize some of this stuff, and/or recommend I file bug report(s).  I
guess I'm just trying to do my share, but needed some input on whether
or not I should, in this case, do anything.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Warnings from Evolution

2013-05-20 Thread Bart
Heh, heh, heh...   I was afraid of something like that!

Bart



On Sun, 2013-05-19 at 19:33 -0400, Mark Filipak wrote:
 montana_evolution_user,
 
 If you were meant to know what those messages mean, you would already know 
 what 
 those messages mean.
 
 Black helicopters are on their way to you. You are advised to surrender 
 peacefully.
 
 Department of Homeland Security.
 
 On 2013/5/19 6:36 PM, Bart wrote:
  openSUSE 12.3
  KDE 4.10.3
  Evolution 3.8.1
 
  Had to restart my computer today.  Had the dickens of a time getting my
  contacts to load.  So, I started Evolution from a terminal.  Got several
  error messages which I don't understand.
 
  I'm posting them here in hopes that someone can tell me either that
  they're not to be worried about, or how to eliminate them.
 
  -  Screen capture ---
  bart@Asus-990FX:~ evolution
 
  ** (evolution:3060): WARNING **: Error retrieving accessibility bus
  address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
  org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files
 
  (evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to register client:
  GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
  org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
 
  ** (evolution-alarm-notify:3088): WARNING **: Error retrieving
  accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown:
  The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files
  java version 1.7.0_21
  OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.3.9) (suse-8.14.5-x86_64)
  OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.7-b01, mixed mode)
 
  (evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but
  not visible
 
  (evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but
  not visible
 
  (evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but
  visible=0 child_visible=1 parent GtkBox 0x23e4280 mapped=1
 
  (evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but
  not visible
 
  (evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but
  visible=0 child_visible=1 parent GtkBox 0x23e4280 mapped=1
 
    End capture
 
  Evolution seems to be working, I'm using it right now.
 
  Bart



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[Evolution] Warnings from Evolution

2013-05-19 Thread Bart
openSUSE 12.3
KDE 4.10.3
Evolution 3.8.1

Had to restart my computer today.  Had the dickens of a time getting my
contacts to load.  So, I started Evolution from a terminal.  Got several
error messages which I don't understand.

I'm posting them here in hopes that someone can tell me either that
they're not to be worried about, or how to eliminate them.

-  Screen capture ---
bart@Asus-990FX:~ evolution

** (evolution:3060): WARNING **: Error retrieving accessibility bus
address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files

(evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to register client:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

** (evolution-alarm-notify:3088): WARNING **: Error retrieving
accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown:
The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files
java version 1.7.0_21
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.3.9) (suse-8.14.5-x86_64)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.7-b01, mixed mode)

(evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but
not visible

(evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but
not visible

(evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but
visible=0 child_visible=1 parent GtkBox 0x23e4280 mapped=1

(evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but
not visible

(evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but
visible=0 child_visible=1 parent GtkBox 0x23e4280 mapped=1

  End capture

Evolution seems to be working, I'm using it right now.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution: Automatically Create Address Book Entries for People You Respond To | a Tech-Recipes Tutorial

2013-05-18 Thread Bart
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 23:07 -0500, Eugene wrote:
 http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2322/evolution_automatically_create_address_book_entries/
 
 I can't find this feature anymore. Was it dropped? 
 
 evolution-3.6.4
 
 Eugene.
 ___
It is there in 3.8.1 anyway.  I am pretty sure it was working in 3.6 but
I don't have that version anymore.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Help files

2013-05-17 Thread Bart
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 06:06 -0600, Bart Hollis wrote:
 On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 07:32 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:
  On Tue, 2013-05-07 at 09:00 -0600, Bart Hollis wrote:
   The Help - About - Contents shows an error message : Could not display
   help for Evolution. The specified location is not supported.
   
   I don't understand the not supported part.
   Knowing where the help files are located might give me a start.
  
  Make sure you have 'yelp' installed.
  
  Also check whether help files for Evolution are packaged separately on
  openSUSE.  We do that on Fedora for the sake of the live CD; help files
  are in a separate 'evolution-help' package.
  
  Matthew Barnes
  
  
 
 That was the problem.  I can understand how that could happen, with
 Live-CDs and all.  I suppose I should file a bug report with openSUSE
 about this, although I don't have the resources to recreate the problem.
 I'll let them know anyway.
 
 Thanks for your help!
 
 Bart
 
Just a follow-up.  I filed a bug report with the openSUSE people.
It's 818977 if anyone wants to look.

Bart


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Re: [Evolution] Empty Trash doesn't work

2013-05-15 Thread Bart
On Thu, 2013-05-16 at 02:15 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
 On Thu, 2013-05-16 at 01:49 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  OT: Btw. an issue for the Linux version ist, that a reply is done by the
  default account and not automagically by the account that did receive a
  message.
 
 I can confirm this for using Edit as New Message in the Sent folder,
 but not in general. Do you have a default address set under Edit 
 Preferences  Mail Accounts?
 
 andre

I noticed this also.  When I use Ctrl-L to reply, as I have done here,
the message uses my default email account, not the account that was the
recipient of the message.  It didn't used to be that way.

I also have to change from HTML, my preferred method, to text, requested
by this list.  I thought I remembered a setting to make the type of
formatting conform to the choices in the Contacts list.

Oh!  Evolution 3.8.1 on openSUSE 12.3 using KDE 4.10.3

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Help files

2013-05-13 Thread Bart Hollis
On Thu, 2013-05-09 at 14:28 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:

 It uses yelp - the Gnome help system.  What happens if you run
 
yelp help:evolution
 
 from a command line?

yelp was not installed.  When I installed 12.3, I chose the KDE desktop.
Evolution had to be installed after the fact.  The dependencies list did
not include yelp.  I have filed a bug report 818977

Thanks

  
  I'm curious about the naming of that folder, how on earth did it end up
  as 'C'?
 
 It's historic.  From the net somewhere...
 
 In the C programming language, the locale name C “specifies the
 minimal environment for C translation” (C99 §7.11.1.1; the
 principle has been the same since at least the 1980s). As most
 operating systems are written in C, especially the unix-inspired
 ones where locales are set through the LANG and LC_xxx
 environment variables, C ends up being the name of a “safe”
 locale everywhere.
 
 POSIX specifies that both C and POSIX must be valid locale
 names, with the same neutral settings.
 
 So 'C' is from the 'C' language.  The C locale basically comes down to
 7-bit ASCII.
 
 P.
 
THANK YOU!  It now makes sense.  Well, it did before, I just didn't know
it.

Bart


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Re: [Evolution] Help files

2013-05-13 Thread Bart Hollis
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 07:32 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:
 On Tue, 2013-05-07 at 09:00 -0600, Bart Hollis wrote:
  The Help - About - Contents shows an error message : Could not display
  help for Evolution. The specified location is not supported.
  
  I don't understand the not supported part.
  Knowing where the help files are located might give me a start.
 
 Make sure you have 'yelp' installed.
 
 Also check whether help files for Evolution are packaged separately on
 openSUSE.  We do that on Fedora for the sake of the live CD; help files
 are in a separate 'evolution-help' package.
 
 Matthew Barnes
 
 

That was the problem.  I can understand how that could happen, with
Live-CDs and all.  I suppose I should file a bug report with openSUSE
about this, although I don't have the resources to recreate the problem.
I'll let them know anyway.

Thanks for your help!

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-09 Thread Bart Hollis
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 16:58 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:

 On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 21:58 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
  On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 19:51 +0200, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote:
   Last version of evolution constantly crashed for me (the one comes with 
   ubuntu 13.04). Sent a pair of bug reports with launchpad but I cannot 
   continue use the program with this high degree of problems.
   I was a high evangelist of evolution but right now it has not the 
   quality it used to have.
  Please add in Ubuntu to your statements as you chose to use a
  distribution that deliberately ships old versions and doesn't provide
  upstream bugfix updates to their users.
 
 +1
 
  Just to get the facts straight who to blame for missing quality.
 
 Yep, I'm on openSUSE 12.3 GNOME 3.8.1 and *YES* I use Evolution all day
 every day.  It is stable.
 


Add me as a long time openSUSE user that looked at all the options and
chose Evolution for it's features.  I stayed with openSUSE because it
works.  I stayed with Evolution because it works.  When I do have a
problem, almost always my fault, I always get a polite, thorough answer
from this list.

Bart
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Re: [Evolution] Help files

2013-05-09 Thread Bart Hollis
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 11:55 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
 On Tue, 2013-05-07 at 09:00 -0600, Bart Hollis wrote:
  Using Evolution 3.6.3 on openSUSE 12.3 with KDE desktop.
  
  The Help - About - Contents shows an error message : Could not display
  help for Evolution. The specified location is not supported.
  
  I don't understand the not supported part.
  Knowing where the help files are located might give me a start.
  
  I've looked in /usr/share/evolution/3.6/help/.  The only entry there is
  quickref/ and see I files for different languages.  There is no en
  folder.  There is a folder named with an upper case, underlined C which
  contains an English quick reference card.
  
  I can't find anything else.
 
 The gnome help system (yelp) looks for things in /usr/share/help
 
 The language you are looking for is the same as your locale settings and
 in locale terms, 'C' is the default if your locale doesn't exist.  What
 it comes down to is that the 'C' locale is American English.  So the
 Evolution help files should be in /usr/share/help/C/evolution and on
 F18, those files are provided by the evolution-help package.
 
 P.
 
Don't know how I missed it, guess I was just stuck on the evolution
folder.  There are 219 files including a folder with images.  Everything
has root as owner with read write permissions, root as group with read
permissions and everyone has read.

They were apparently bundled with the evolution package as there is no
evolution-help shown in the repository, and the files are obviously
there.

The error message I'm getting seems a little strange to me.  It doesn't
tell me there is no help available, it says the location isn't
supported.  Could it be that I'm missing a package from the gnome
desktop?  Does Evolution call the help files directly or does it call on
a process of some sort to read and display the files?

I'm curious about the naming of that folder, how on earth did it end up
as 'C'?

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[Evolution] Help files

2013-05-08 Thread Bart Hollis
Using Evolution 3.6.3 on openSUSE 12.3 with KDE desktop.

The Help - About - Contents shows an error message : Could not display
help for Evolution. The specified location is not supported.

I don't understand the not supported part.
Knowing where the help files are located might give me a start.

I've looked in /usr/share/evolution/3.6/help/.  The only entry there is
quickref/ and see I files for different languages.  There is no en
folder.  There is a folder named with an upper case, underlined C which
contains an English quick reference card.

I can't find anything else.

Bart

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[Evolution] Settings not being retained

2013-05-02 Thread Bart Hollis
Evolution 3.6.3 on openSuse 12.3

Hope I'm using the correct terminology here:
When I start Evolution, there are 5 sections in the window,
The Menu bar(s) across the top
Upper left is a folder list.
Lower left are buttons for Mail, Contacts, etc.
Upper right is list of messages for the current folder.
Lower right is a preview of the current message.

In this version of Evolution, the size of the message preview section is
not remembered and is shrunken down to the bottom of the main window.

This is obviously a new undocumented feature, as it didn't act this way
in previous versions.  I am hesitant to upgrade the version number as it
is not available in the openSuse repositories and I don't want to create
any problems.

This is not the end of the world, but I'm wondering if it is possible to
manually modify the file where current settings are stored, and put in
the sizes I wish?  Would it stick then?

Bart
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Re: [Evolution] Auto show images.

2013-05-02 Thread Bart Hollis
 On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 16:20 -0600, Bart wrote:
  When I go to Help, it says Could not display help for Evolution
  The specified location is not supported
  I couldn't find anything in the help screen about fixing this.  :)
 
 Does your distribution not install Help files by default?  Perhaps they
 are separate packages?  Perhaps evolution-help?  Or somehow the GNOME
 help viewer isn't installed?  If you can't view Help I'd think the
 situation is outside of Evolution.
 
 I'm using Evolution on an ARM-powered Chromebook running openSUSE
 12.3... and help works here!  If it works even here your distro must
 have seriously bolloxed their packaging.
 

I'm using openSUSE 12.3 on this computer.  However, I'm using the KDE
desktop.  I therefore had to manually install Evolution.  I wonder if
the help files were not included with the installation.  As is my usual
policy, I simply checked the little box in YaST that said Evolution and
assumed the entire package would be installed.  Perhaps I should change
my methods, or perhaps Evolution should include the entire package, or
list help as a dependency, as a default (would that be up to the
openSUSE packagers?).

I guess I could make a case for either of these options.


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Re: [Evolution] Settings not being retained

2013-05-02 Thread Bart Hollis
On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 10:10 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 16:34 -0600, Bart Hollis wrote:
  Evolution 3.6.3 on openSuse 12.3
  
  Hope I'm using the correct terminology here:
  When I start Evolution, there are 5 sections in the window,
  The Menu bar(s) across the top
  Upper left is a folder list.
  Lower left are buttons for Mail, Contacts, etc.
  Upper right is list of messages for the current folder.
  Lower right is a preview of the current message.
  
  In this version of Evolution, the size of the message preview section is
  not remembered and is shrunken down to the bottom of the main window.
  
  This is obviously a new undocumented feature, as it didn't act this way
  in previous versions.  I am hesitant to upgrade the version number as it
  is not available in the openSuse repositories and I don't want to create
  any problems.
  
  This is not the end of the world, but I'm wondering if it is possible to
  manually modify the file where current settings are stored, and put in
  the sizes I wish?  Would it stick then?
 
 A similar issue was discussed on the list in the last few weeks. Check
 the list archives.
 
 poc
 
According to the openSUSE forum, to update Evolution to version 3.8, I
would have to update the entire Gnome system.  As I stated, I'm using
KDE, so I don't have all of Gnome installed.  I really don't want to
introduce any more instabilities.  Does this mean I'll have to live with
this until I change my version of openSUSE?

Seems to me, I remember this problem occurred way, way back and was
fixed.  It came back?

Bart



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Re: [Evolution] Auto show images.

2013-05-01 Thread Bart
On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 16:59 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:
 On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 22:31 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
  Did you go to Help  About in Evolution and tried to get to Mail
  management - Display of a message - Images in HTML messages?
  
  If not I'd love to know what to do better so people can find this.
 
 Probably direct them to Help  Contents for starters.  :P
 
 
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When I go to Help, it says Could not display help for Evolution
The specified location is not supported

I couldn't find anything in the help screen about fixing this.  :)


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution activity stalls - screen goes dark

2013-01-14 Thread Bart Steanes
Reid,

Have a look at this thread (
http://www.mail-archive.com/evolution-list@gnome.org/msg20681.html),
NOTE: the subject should say my Evolution 3.6.2 backport to Ubuntu 12.10

It works _significantly_ better than 3.6.0, although there are still issues
around attachments...


On 14 January 2013 14:08, reid rsv...@roadrunner.com wrote:

 Hello group -

 When running Evolution 3.6.0 on Ubuntu 12.10 I execute some basic activity,
 such as deleting several hundred messages, or moving large number messages
 from one folder to another, and in the process the HD become incredibly
 busy
 (HD light stays on constantly) and the screen goes dim (dark back  white).
 I've run the system monitor and CPE and memory are barely active at that
 time but the system is locked up tight until this activity finishes.  Is
 this normal?  Could it be caused by the fact that the message folders were
 imported into Evolution as Mbox format, and that the deletion and/or
 movement of messages from Mbox folders creates this situation of too disk
 intensive disk activity?  Is there anything I can do to correct this?

 Thanks

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Re: [Evolution] my Evolution 3.6.2 backport to Ubuntu 10.12

2013-01-12 Thread Bart Steanes
Joesef,

Thank you very much for this, as you said it's a significant improvement.

BTW: To make install work I ended up doing a dpkg -i *.deb as there was a
dependency issue with doing the install in the recommended order.

Any chance you can pass on the steps required to create these packages?


On 12 January 2013 08:55, Josef Bergmann josef.bergm...@bec.at wrote:

 Dear Evolution-enthusiasts!

 As many others here, I had also different problems (signatures, hanging
 processes, caldav, ...) with the official Evolution 3.6.0 in Ubuntu
 12.10, so I build new packages from the raring-tree.

 More info with download-link see here

 http://askubuntu.com/questions/232020/how-to-install-evolution-3-6-2-from-13-04-into-12-10

 No warranty for anything, this just works for me.

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[Evolution] Message attachments not present (mostly)

2013-01-12 Thread Bart Steanes
Since upgrading to evolution 3.6.x I have not been able to see / download
message attachments. The paperclip item is present but I need to use OWA to
actually access the attached file(s).

Currently running 3.6.2 on Ubuntu 12.10.

In a possibly related note, message size column shows message size = 0 for
_all_ messages.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution mapi 3.6: failed to send html mails and mails with attachment

2012-10-30 Thread Bart Steanes
On 26 October 2012 17:38, Milan Crha mc...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Fri, 2012-10-26 at 00:52 +1100, Bart Steanes wrote:
  Is there an actual open bug for this with the OpenChange team?
 
  It appears that the gnome bug has fizzled out.
 
  [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682449

 Hi,
 there is not. I wrote to a devel mailing list of OpenChange, hoping in a
 quicker response, but I got none, unfortunately. I made, by a chance,
 more testing yesterday and the issue seems to be samba4, adding one
 extra byte to the raw data being passed to exchange server for some
 reason. It's there since alpha18. If I compile OpenChange against
 samba4-alpha17, then it can write streams as expected.
 Bye,
 Milan


Can someone advise whether I will need to rebuild evolution with
samba4-alpha17 installed or just install samba4-alpha17 to get around this
problem?

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Re: [Evolution] evolution mapi 3.6: failed to send html mails and mails with attachment

2012-10-25 Thread Bart Steanes
Hi,

Is there an actual open bug for this with the OpenChange team?

It appears that the gnome bug has fizzled out.

On 22 October 2012 18:35, Milan Crha mc...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 17:50 +0200, Jan-Michael Brummer wrote:
  using the new version of evolution mapi 3.6 i discovered that i can only
  send message in plain text without attachments. Every effort to send
  mails in HTML or mails with attachments results in a mapi write error.
  Is this bug already known and can be reproduced by someone else?

 Hi,
 unfortunately known, see [1]. The issue is not with evolution-mapi, but
 with OpenChange 1.0, which has broken writing of streams for some
 reason. The issue affects sending of large messages, which means
 basically anything longer than 4KB of raw data, +/-.
 Bye,
 Milan

 [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682449

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Re: [Evolution] Undesired IMAP account

2012-07-23 Thread Bart
On Mon, 2012-07-23 at 09:24 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
 On Mon, 2012-07-23 at 14:03 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: 
 Making delete-account elaborate would be optimizing a rare operation,
 IMHO.  How often do users create / delete mail accounts? Hopefully that
 is very uncommon.   snip

For the record,  I do it quite frequently.  When I need a temporary
account, I create it, use it and then delete it.  Of course, I use
strictly POP accounts, so this situation doesn't affect me directly.
It's only one of the reasons though, why I will forever stick with POP.

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Re: [Evolution] associate email account with address book entry

2012-07-17 Thread Bart
On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 17:40 +1000, Nick Jenkins wrote:
  Then create a text file named outlook_idiot_lecture.msg,
  containing the following:
  
 I'm a bit unsure that the lecture is going to change anything. Firstly
 because I'm dubious about its effectiveness at being heard (positive
 messages almost always trump negative ones). Secondly because it's
 directed at the wrong people (end users), when it should be directed at
 the people who specified the app - the Outlook product managers, or the
 people who purchased it.
 

Ah yes.  But, it did provide, at the moment, a much appreciated bit of
levity.  And for that, I am appreciative.


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Re: [Evolution] An interesting problem

2012-06-21 Thread Bart
On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 10:07 -0300, Lailah wrote:
 
 Bart:
 
 Are you sure that is no problem with the file itself?  I
 mean, maybe is corrupted or something.  I think the problem is in the
 file, but is only my opinion.
 
 
 
 Regards,
 Lailah
 
 
 
With further investigation, the problem does indeed seem to be in the
file.  If I copy the file to another directory, it gets bigger by about
a meg.  I can attach that copy to a message without problems whereas the
original will lock up evolution.

The thing is, the apparently corrupted file will work just fine when
viewed in multiple video players.  Go figure!

Anyway.  It's obviously not a problem with Evolution, so I'll drop it
here, and maybe find a corrupt file mailing list to see if I can find
what is up with that file.
.
.
.
Or maybe not.  G

Bart 

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Re: [Evolution] An interesting problem

2012-06-20 Thread Bart
On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 06:52 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
 On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 12:29 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
  El día Wednesday, June 20, 2012 a las 05:12:07AM -0400, Adam Tauno Williams 
  escribió:
   NO WAY!  This isn't the 1990s.  There certainly is a reasonable upper
   limit for an e-mail message but it isn't 12MB.  I routinely send 50 -
   75MB collections of files via e-mail and via Evolution.  Evolution never
   fails.   Modern mail handlers such as Postfix and Cyrus IMAP are easily
   capable of handling these large messages.
   ...
  In ESMTP you can query the size limit of the next MX with:
  $ telnet smtp.1blu.de 25
  250-SIZE 52428800
  i.e. my ISP would accept 52428800 bytes;
 
 And with base64 encoding [which tends to bloat ~20%] that is a maximum
 message size of ~40MB.
 
  what I right now listening as music... and the other is connected by a
  link and has to pay for minutes or for bytes
 
 (a) I know that nobody I communicate with regularly has a pay-as-you-go
 plan.  Many are on the same extremely fast subnet as me.
 
 (b) At least in North America pay-as-you-go plans are almost unheard of.
 I understand this case and when I communicate with a friend in rural
 Africa messages are smallish - although one does discover that batch
 transfer of information via SMTP is far *more* efficient that messages
 containing links that then have to be downloaded [and are often viewed
 after the connection has gone away].  Dealing with web servers and
 especially 'the Web 2.0' over very high latency connections isn't a
 great time.
 
 So no, I think this mentality is completely obsolete except in rare and
 very specific cases.
 
 But this is all off-topic now: Evolution can handle very large messages
 quite gracefully.  I'm curious why a specific attachment would make it
 go donkers.
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Wow!  A hornet's nest I seem to have poked.

For the record, I contacted the recipient before attempting this
transfer and got his permission and encouragement.  We both have what is
considered high speed connections (10 mbs) so time was not considered a
problem.  Neither of us are charged by usage, we pay a flat fee.

I did end up using one of the file sharing services so the file was
transferred successfully although sitting here I can't determine why
sending it to a file sharing service, and having it downloaded on the
other end would result in any less electrons being abused than sending
it as an attachment.

Also, I did try renaming the file, no go.  As I stated, I could attach
files that are bigger than this one, and have sent them without
problems.

The intent of this post was to determine if there was any interest or
curiosity in this problem.  The fact that it was this file only, and
that I used another method to accomplish my goal means that it is not a
problem to me.  I thought one of the developers just might want to be
advised, and might even want a copy of the file to determine why it
failed and why Evolution did not gracefully handle the error.

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[Evolution] An interesting problem

2012-06-19 Thread Bart
Evolution 3.2.3
KDE 4.7.2
openSuse 12.1

Last night, I tried to send an email containing an attachment.  The
attachment is a .MP4 type file of about 12 meg in size.

When I attempted to use the Add Attachment button on the bottom of the
message, the window went non-responsive.  I clicked on the close button
at the top right of the window and waited for KDE to crash close
Evolution.

Not believing this happened, I tried again.  (Why do we always do this?)
I got the same response.

Each time I restart Evolution it asks if I want to recover the unsent
message.  I answered yes and then tried to drag and drop the file.  I
got the same response.

So I tried starting a new message in case the one I was working with was
corrupt and the response was the same.

I am able to attach a file of bigger or smaller size, of the same or
different type without problems.

I am able to play this file in several different video applications so I
don't think it's corrupt.

Bottom line, I am unable to attach a specific file to an email message
using Evolution.  Any other file works without problems.  The file in
question seems to be in good shape.

I moved the file using another method, so this problem is a non-issue to
me.  Is this worth fussing with?  I kept the file on my system in case
it could help finding a weird problem in Evolution.

Bart


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[Evolution] Evolution - The application

2012-06-15 Thread Bart
A couple of hours ago, I was speaking with a acquaintance.  We were
discussing computer software, applications, and how well they worked,
and how well they were supported.  We both agreed that our email client
was the most important application on our systems.

After listening to him tell me about his Windows software, I was
reminded of how I seem to take my copy Evolution for granted.  Yes, I
see on this list that there are bugs.  But, I also see that most of the
problems revolve around improper backup/restore and/or export/import.
Mostly caused by operator misunderstanding.

This message is not a call for help.  It is to commend the people
responsible for the creation and upkeep of Evolution, and to the very,
very patient people who support it.

Thanks so much!

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] Advanced Templates [Was: Need Help with evolution auto subject]

2012-06-09 Thread Bart
On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 23:25 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 Was it really necessary to quote Reid's entire explanation just to add
 your comment?

 poc
 

No.

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Re: [Evolution] Advanced Templates [Was: Need Help with evolution auto subject]

2012-06-08 Thread Bart
On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 12:44 +, Reid Thompson wrote:
 On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 12:41 +, Reid Thompson wrote:
  On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 06:13 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
   
   I'm on 3.2.3, and I see the Templates folder [somehow I never noticed
   that before] but how do I apply a template to a reply or message?
   [I realize it is probably obvious, but I don't see any Template menu
   items].
  
   a quick glance at the patch code in bugzilla seems to indicate that
   there should be a 'reply to message using template' option somewhere.
   I've not found it though.
  
 
 From the help menu...
 
 Message Templates
 A message template is a standard message that you can use at any time to
 send mail with the same pattern.
 
 To enable the Message Template Plugin, click Edit ▸ Plugins and
 enable Templates.
 
 
 Creating a Message Template from an existing Message
  1. Select the message.
 
  2. Right-click the message and choose Move to folder or Copy to
 folder.
 
  3. Select the Templates folder under On This Computer.
 
 You can also edit an existing message and save it as a template:
 
  1. Open the message and click Reply.
 
  2. Edit the message body or the addresses according to your
 requirements.
 
  3. Select File ▸ Save as Template.
 
 Saving a New Message as a Template
  1. Click New and enter in the composer window what you need for the
 template.
 
  2. Select File ▸ Save as Template.
 
 Using a Message Template as a Reply
  1. Right-click the message you are replying to, then
 click Templates.
 
 This option lists all the message templates in
 the Templates folder.
 
  2. Select the message template of your choice. Make changes if
 required in the email composer window that will open.
 
  3. Click Send.
 
 When you select a message template for replying, the subject of
 the reply is preserved.
 
 Configuring Message Templates
  1. Select Edit ▸ Plugins.
 
  2. Click Templates.
 
  3. Click the Configuration tab.
 
  4. You can add, edit or remove the key-value pairs. You can specify
 any number of key-value pairs.
 
 In any template, the occurrence of every $key is replaced by the value
 it has in the configuration. For example, if you set the key to Manager
 and the value to Harry, any occurrence of $Manager is replaced by Harry
 in the message.
 
 Assume that you have 1000 message templates with your current manager's
 name in them. When the current manager is replaced by a new one, it is
 not easy for you to manually replace the manager's name in all the 1000
 messages. If the messages have a $Manager key value, you can reset the
 value in the Configuration tab of this plugin.
 
 By default, the entire environment variables are used as a key-value
 pair. An occurrence of $env_variable is replaced by the value it
 carries. For example, an occurrence of $PATH in your template is
 replaced by its value when the template is used.
 
 The replacement process uses the following order of precedence:
 
  1. $key is replaced by the value set for it in the Configuration
 tab of the Templates plugin.
 
  2. If the key is not found, it is then replaced with the value of
 its environment variable.
 
  3. If key is neither a configuration option nor an environment
 variable, no changes are made.
 
 
 
 
 
Thank you for taking the time to explain the phrase *key-value pairs*.
For some reason, I just couldn't grasp the meaning. Simple, Now that I
know!


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Re: [Evolution] Predictive/auto correct on thunderbird and evolution

2012-06-08 Thread Bart
On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 22:38 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:

 On Sat, 2012-06-09 at 10:02 +0800, Andre Klapper wrote:
  Evolution and Thunderbird both provide spellchecking as you type.
  Evolution does not have an autocorrection feature. (I think that is what
  you ask for.) I don't know if Thunderbird has as I don't know it enough.
 
 I've seen enough of damnyouautocorrect.com to convince me it's a
 mis-feature.
 
 Matthew Barnes
 

+1   Please, please don't!

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