[Evolution] change request

2019-09-19 Thread Gary Curtin
It is not clear on the GNOME Evolution web page where to submit requests
for changes to the application. Maybe someone can add this for me.

Request to change the Evolution settings window.

Please change the Compose section of Settings to not use the words
"start typing" because this is interpreted to mean "you are not supposed
to start typing". See quote below.

On 19/09/2019 15:25, Andre Klapper wrote:
> No, and that's been explained several times now: You are not supposed
> to start typing but to think and use your keyboard to remove unneeded
> quotes first, and then type after having gone through the quote.
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Re: [Evolution] Buckup & Restore command dont work UPDATE and Thanks

2019-09-18 Thread Gary Curtin
No, the cursor is at the top because that is where you start typing.
This is explicit in the default setting, which you want anyone replying
on this list to change to "start typing at the bottom".

So this IS weird because this is a forum for Evolution, but you don't
want the members to use the default setting. Maybe weird is not the
right adjective. How about uncanny?

I would finish with a smiley, but I already know you'll don't like that.


On 18/09/2019 17:02, Andre Klapper wrote:
> Your cursor is at the top so you can remove irrelevant parts from your
> full quote before you reply at the bottom.
>
> I would not call it "weird" but a courtesy to your readers who usually
> don't start reading your message at the bottom to get its context.
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Re: [Evolution] Buckup & Restore command dont work UPDATE and Thanks

2019-09-18 Thread Gary Curtin
The default setting in Evolution is to begin the rely above the quote,
and it just seems a bit weird to suggest otherwise.

Gary

On 18/09/2019 14:11, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> PS Please don't top-post on the list. Many people don't like it.
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Re: [Evolution] Buckup & Restore command dont work

2019-09-15 Thread Gary Curtin
On 15/09/2019 14:22, Philippe PES wrote:
> when I clic GO the dialog disappear and nothing is running

If your email account is setup as IMAP and you have not selected to sync
remote mail locally, then the backup will be very quick. For me it
usually just pops up and is gone. Did you open the tar file and see what
is in there?

But as Patrick suggested, copying your whole home directory will work,
and you will backup more than just Evolution.

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Re: [Evolution] About emoticons and colors (was: How to set the default text color)

2019-08-17 Thread Gary Curtin
On 17/08/2019 14:22, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote:
> Tablet computers aren't smart phones

No, technically they are not if they don't have a SIM card. Both of mine
do so I tend to forget. But a "smart phone" usually has an email app
from either Google or Apple preinstalled, and I don't know a single
person who does not use one of them on their phone to read and compose
messages while they are mobile. Travel on the London Underground
sometime and you will see most commuters doing some kind of messaging on
their phones.

The point being that it is ridiculous to say that "a minority of smart
phone users is using email".


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Re: [Evolution] About emoticons and colors (was: How to set the default text color)

2019-08-17 Thread Gary Curtin
On 17/08/2019 05:33, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote:
> since a minority of smart phone users is using email

Really don't know where you get your facts Ralf.

I recently read in a scientific survey that out of 800 million emails
opened, more than 87% of those where opened by GMail or an Apple app. If
you have trouble understanding that, it simply means a huge majority of
messages were opened on a phone.



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Re: [Evolution] How to set the default text color

2019-08-16 Thread Gary Curtin
On 16/08/2019 19:02, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote:
> No, it isn't. You should expect that a lot of FreeBSD and Linux users
> don't use a GUI MUA at all. Even some Evolution users might be in favour
> of Evolutions option "Show plain text if present or HTML source".
> I don't claim that nobody cares about HTML. A lot of people display HTML
> formatted mails, but you can't rely on it and you should be aware that
> they don't look the same on all computers.

Yes it is. You are presuming that the global majority are using
unformatted text. There may be a few FreeBSD and Linux users not using a
GUI, but how can you think they are setting the trend and that this is
where 21st century messaging is at? 2019 is all about dynamic content,
not plain text.

Whatever the case, it is commendable that Greg want's to assure that his
messages are going to be effortlessly formatted when using Evolution. It
is quite something for you to tell him that he shouldn't expect his
recipients to "care about the HTML formatting at all."

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Re: [Evolution] How to set the default text color

2019-08-16 Thread Gary Curtin
On 16/08/2019 12:54, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote:
> You shouldn't expect that recipients care about the HTML formatting at
> all.

Bit presumptive there Ralf. I certainly care about HTML formatting in
messages I receive.


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[Evolution] RSS feed for Evolution

2019-08-01 Thread Gary Curtin

 I wonder if there is some kind of RSS feed


Hi,
there's a 3rd-party plugin called evolution-rss, which can be used to
subscribe to RSS feeds.


Think he is asking about a feed, not a feed reader Milan.

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Re: [Evolution] aliases and PGP signing

2019-08-01 Thread Gary Curtin
On Wed, 2019-07-31 at 21:31 +0200, Gary Curtin wrote:
> When automatically signing messages, is there a way to specify which
> PGP key an alias will use?

I guess there is still not any chance of this happening. ;-(

Please see https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/94 which I
forgot to mention in my initial post.


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Re: [Evolution] Slow to connect (and download)

2019-08-01 Thread Gary Curtin
On Mon, 2019-07-08 at 10:55 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
>Hi,
> that's really odd. I doubt NSS can do better connections than
> glib-networking/gnutls, thus the only difference I can think of is
> related to proxy settings. By any chance, do you have setup any proxy
> either in the system or in Evolution itself in Edit->Preferences->
> Network Preferences? Maybe try to switch to "Direct connection", aka No
> Proxy Needed, whether it'll help.
> Bye,
> Milan

Yes, I looked at the Network Preferences and tried about every
combination of settings. That did not help, but I was reading an
article over at It's FOSS -
https://itsfoss.com/speed-up-slow-wifi-connection-ubuntu/ - and the
Debian Avahi-daemon solution has improved my speed noticeably.

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Re: [Evolution] ToDo Bar

2019-08-01 Thread Gary Curtin
On Wed, 2019-07-31 at 22:03 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> But if you know how to compile software yourself

Thanks Andre. Was hoping for something simple as compiling is not my
forte.

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[Evolution] aliases and PGP signing

2019-07-31 Thread Gary Curtin
When automatically signing messages, is there a way to specify which
PGP key an alias will use?

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[Evolution] ToDo Bar

2019-07-31 Thread Gary Curtin
Is there some way to configure the time period the ToDo Bar covers? It
appears to be 7 days by default, but I would prefer a few weeks at
least.

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Re: [Evolution] "important" mails not reliably deleted from "important" folder

2019-07-23 Thread Gary Curtin
On 23/07/2019 10:19, Pete Biggs wrote:
> Is this with gmx.de?  If so, then like gmail, it is sometimes a bit
> odd.

Can you explain please, what is odd about GMX?

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Re: [Evolution] Slow to connect (and download)

2019-07-11 Thread Gary Curtin

-- Original Message --
From: "Milan Crha via evolution-list" 
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Sent: 08/07/2019 10:55:02
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Slow to connect (and download)


On Sat, 2019-07-06 at 17:02 +0200, Gary Curtin wrote:

 I setup the same account using Thunderbird, and it works just fine so
 I don't think it is an issue with GMX.

 I am only using email on a single device. Bet you haven't heard that
 in a while!! So POP3 is just fine. I did setup the account as IMAP to
 test it and it is just as slow retrieving messages as with POP3.


Hi,
that's really odd. I doubt NSS can do better connections than
glib-networking/gnutls, thus the only difference I can think of is
related to proxy settings. By any chance, do you have setup any proxy
either in the system or in Evolution itself in Edit->Preferences->
Network Preferences? Maybe try to switch to "Direct connection", aka No
Proxy Needed, whether it'll help.
Bye,
Milan

No, no proxy.

Tried everything I can think of, but Evolution alone is slow. Will have to use 
something else for now. Thanks anyway Milan.

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Re: [Evolution] Slow to connect (and download)

2019-07-06 Thread Gary Curtin
On Sat, 2019-07-06 at 14:35 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> You may like to check with your mail provider - it is not unknown for
> them to throttle connections and I have feeling I've heard in the past
> of GMX doing that (or suspected of doing it).

Thanks for the comments Pete.

I setup the same account using Thunderbird, and it works just fine so I
don't think it is an issue with GMX.

I am only using email on a single device. Bet you haven't heard that in
a while!! So POP3 is just fine. I did setup the account as IMAP to test
it and it is just as slow retrieving messages as with POP3.

Gary

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[Evolution] Slow to connect (and download)

2019-07-06 Thread Gary Curtin
Using Evolution 3.32.1-2 on Ubuntu 19.04 setup with POP3.

If I click on Send/Receive, it can take up to a minute or more to
connect to the POP3 (pop.gmx.com port 110 setup automatically) and then
retrieving simple text messages (like from this list) take another
minute or two to download. It seemed to be a bit slower today than it
was yesterday.

It is not the Internet connection, because I can browse just fine, and
downloading I get more than 1mb/s.

I am not getting any errors that I am aware of.

Any ideas?



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Re: [Evolution] Selective Plain Text

2019-07-05 Thread Gary Curtin
On Mon, 2019-04-08 at 20:27 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Mon, 2019-04-08 at 14:14 -0400, David Burleigh via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > It would be so helpful if I could flag certain addresses and/or
> > domains
> > to which I always want to send plain-text emails, rather than HTML.
>
> I see a "Wants to receive HTML mail" checkbox in the Contacts editor.
>
>


I would like to second David's request. My default is HTML, but it
would be very useful when replying to messages either from specific
senders or by folder, to have the reply automatically in plain text.
Like replying to this list.

We already have the Send account override in folder settings, it would
be nice to have a send format override as well.

Gary

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Re: [Evolution] No notification if message is moved with filter

2019-07-04 Thread Gary Curtin
On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 17:06 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > Using Evolution 3.32.1-2 on Ubuntu 19.04
> >
> > When a filter is set to move an incomming message to a folder, there
> > is
> > no GNOME notofication like there is for a message that arrives and
> > remains in the Inbox.
> >
> > Is this an issue, or is it intended behavior?
> >
> > If it is intended, any tips on how to get GNOME notifications for
> > these
> > messages?
>
> Under "Edit  Plugins  Mail Notification  Configuration", is "Not
> ify new messages for Inbox only" disabled?

Ah. Thank you Andre, that was not disabled.

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[Evolution] No notification if message is moved with filter

2019-07-04 Thread Gary Curtin
Using Evolution 3.32.1-2 on Ubuntu 19.04

When a filter is set to move an incomming message to a folder, there is
no GNOME notofication like there is for a message that arrives and
remains in the Inbox.

Is this an issue, or is it intended behavior?

If it is intended, any tips on how to get GNOME notifications for these
messages?

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Re: [Evolution] list etiquette

2018-08-31 Thread Gary Curtin

On 31/08/2018 14:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

There are no list-specific rules. There are certain practices which are
frowned on (top-posting, using HTML and not mentioning your Evo version
when asking a question being the main ones), and from time to time it
falls to one of us to remind people. We haven't felt the need for a
formalised document so far, and I for one would prefer to avoid it as
these things tend to get out of hand.


Thanks for that Patrick.

As it is not fromwned upon, there is no reason for me to refrain from 
using emoticons like LOL! when discussing issues with Evolution.


Now I can get back to the important things. :-)
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Re: [Evolution] list etiquette

2018-08-31 Thread Gary Curtin

On 31/08/2018 12:19:45, "Andre Klapper"  wrote:


No, I asked you as an individual to refrain from "LOL" posts.
I never asked you not to express emotions. You're free to disagree.

So the same post, but without the LOL emoticon is OK?

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[Evolution] list etiquette

2018-08-31 Thread Gary Curtin
Last week the moderator asked me not to express emotion in my posts. I 
responded privately to him and requested a link to the list posting 
etiquette so that I would not commit further faux pas, but unfortunately 
he did not respond.


I would like to participate in conversations, but as I have not been 
able to locate any list rules, I am not sure how to proceed. If anybody 
can point me in the direction of where to find these rules, I would be 
most appreciative.


Gary

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Re: [Evolution] Frustrating Calender Problem

2018-08-26 Thread Gary Curtin
On 25/08/2018 22:43:46, "Japhering via evolution-list" 
 wrote:

I know its not what you want, but the quickest way to accomplish that is to not
respond at all and either a) manually put in the calendar entries or b) route
everything through a gmail account which will put a notice in your gmail 
calendar but
not respond at all.


That GMail trick is very clever.

What happens when you decide which meeting to attend? Because you have 
not marked any of the meetings as tentative, you cannot later confirm or 
decline attendance.


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Re: [Evolution] Frustrating Calender Problem

2018-08-24 Thread Gary Curtin

On 24/08/2018 15:04:46, "Andre Klapper"  wrote:


On Fri, 2018-08-24 at 10:19 +0000, Gary Curtin wrote:
Your situation is exactly "tentative", but you have no control over 
the

organizer's understanding of the word. LOL!


It's not tentative (see the meaning of the word) as the user explicitly
does plan to attend the meeting.
I also ask you to refrain from further "LOL" postings.


The user said he had not yet decided which meeting he was going to 
attend, that he would choose shortly before the meeting started. How is 
that not tentative, Andre? Surely this is exactly what the tentative 
option is designed for!


I will refrain from expressing my amusement in further comments.

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Re: [Evolution] Frustrating Calender Problem

2018-08-24 Thread Gary Curtin

On 24/08/2018 12:02:00, "Michael Hirmke"  wrote:


Hi,

[...]

If you want to be part of the appointment, why would you not want to
accept the wonderful facility that the originator used to include you?


I want to accept it, because I want an entry in my calendar, but I 
don't

want to inform the sender about that fact. One reason is, that I often
have invitations for meetings taking place at the same time. I only can
attend one of them, obviously. But I want to choose shortly before they
start, which one I'd like to or have to attend. But if I would send 
back

any answer, the sender has some expectations - even if I answer with
"tentative". Working in a company with some 14 users teaches you a
lot about "expectations" 8-(

Bye.
Michael
Your situation is exactly "tentative", but you have no control over the 
organizer's understanding of the word. LOL!


Always interesting to see how different people work.

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Re: [Evolution] Frustrating Calender Problem

2018-08-23 Thread Gary Curtin

On 23/08/2018 11:13:17, "Andre Klapper"  wrote:

Yes, as that is not the problem. It's about sending mail. Please read
the complete thread again to actually understand the actual problem.

There seems to be two different issues in the thread. This one, I think, 
is not the same as the original poster's. But maybe I read it wrong the 
first time.


However, it comes down to the same issue as in another thread, where the 
user was adding members to an appointment to indicate his out-of-office. 
Not the correct way to do it, no? Even if it is company policy.


If you want to be part of the appointment, why would you not want to 
accept the wonderful facility that the originator used to include you?


I suppose you could request a special voyeur feature be added! LOL!

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Re: [Evolution] Frustrating Calender Problem

2018-08-23 Thread Gary Curtin

On 23/08/2018 10:29:55, "Andre Klapper"  wrote:


There is nothing to "ignore". The user has to accept the invitation to
import the appointment to have it displayed in their calendar.



So then the users DOES want to be part of the appointment.

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Re: [Evolution] Frustrating Calender Problem

2018-08-23 Thread Gary Curtin

On 22/08/2018 21:09:00, m...@mike.franken.de wrote:

I'd like to prohibit sending an answer even if the sender requests one.


I am wondering what is stopping you from just ignoring it and not 
replying? :-)


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Re: [Evolution] error with message filter

2018-08-20 Thread Gary Curtin
On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 16:24 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> A better workaround would be to disable download for offline for the
> Sent folder

Will give that a go and see what happens. Thanks Milan.

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Re: [Evolution] error with message filter

2018-08-20 Thread Gary Curtin
On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 14:01 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> You could just use a Sent folder locally as you are now doing with POP,
> and retain the other benefits of IMAP.

That is what I was thinking as well. Thank you Patrick.

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Re: [Evolution] error with message filter

2018-08-20 Thread Gary Curtin
On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 12:02 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> The only reason I can think of that might explain this is if your Sent
> folder is on the IMAP server. If this isn't the case, why do you think
> IMAP is trying to read the sent message?

Maybe I was not so clear in my initial description or further comments,
Patrick.

The problem is occurring because an Evolution filter is deleting the
message after send, as it is instructed to, but then Evoution is trying
to load it again in the IMAP Sent folder. Does that make more sense?



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Re: [Evolution] error with message filter

2018-08-20 Thread Gary Curtin
On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 12:58 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 13:07 +0200, Gary Curtin wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 12:02 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> The only reason I can think of that might explain this is if your
> Sent
> folder is on the IMAP server. If this isn't the case, why do you
> think
> IMAP is trying to read the sent message?
> 
> Yes, this was an IMAP account, so the Sent folder was on the server. 
> 
> It doesn't need to be. You can put it anywhere you have access to.
> 
> If you have switched to POP, I presume you've also moved the Sent
> folder.
> 
> poc
> 


I guess I neglected to say it was default settings. Sorry.

Obviously with POP3, there is no access to the server Sent folder, so
it uses the default "On This Computer" Sent folder. I have not moved
it, it is where it is by default.

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Re: [Evolution] error with message filter

2018-08-20 Thread Gary Curtin
On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 12:02 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> The only reason I can think of that might explain this is if your Sent
> folder is on the IMAP server. If this isn't the case, why do you think
> IMAP is trying to read the sent message?

Yes, this was an IMAP account, so the Sent folder was on the server. 



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Re: [Evolution] error with message filter

2018-08-20 Thread Gary Curtin
On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 12:35 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> What is the account type (IMAP, EWS, ...) you see this on, please?

Thanks for the reply Milan.

This was with an IMAP account. All I can think of is that the filter
deleted the message after sending as it was supposed to, then the IMAP
tried to retrieve the message after it was deleted.

I changed back to POP3 so the issue is no longer there.

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Re: [Evolution] exchange calendar

2018-08-20 Thread Gary Curtin
On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 09:19 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> BTW, did you allow Evolution to autoconfigure your account after you
> put in the email address. Sometimes that doesn't work very well if your
> Exchange setup is complex and/or the autoconfig information is wrong.
> Try manually setting up the host URL (for cloud hosted Office365 it
> should be https://outlook.office365.com/EWS/Exchange.asmx with the
> username supplied by your admins - then click on 'Fetch URL' to get
> your specific connection URL. Authentication type is 'NTLM').

I did a manual setup on Evolution 3.28.5 on Ubuntu 18.04. The URL as
you gave was already there, and the OAB URL was filled in after
clicking "Fetch URL". Nothing different to what I have done before.

However, my calendars are now visible, and everything is working OK.

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Re: [Evolution] Deleting Messages

2018-08-20 Thread Gary Curtin
On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 22:59 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 19:41 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 18:56 +0200, Gary Curtin wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 18:34 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 
> Gary, perhaps it just happened by accident, when you trimmed the
> quote,
> but the quote is not marked as a quote.
> 
> This happens regularly with Evolution when changing from HTML to
> Plain
> Text.
> 
> When running into unexpected behavior, please file tickets. 
> In this case: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/86
> 
> With the same mail it doesn't happen here.
> 

I guess like the spelling bug, it happens when it happens. I send in
plain text to two addresses. The other is a colleague, and maybe 2 out
10 replies to him lose the indicators.

So I am trying it the other way around, and selecting plain text before
I comment. Notice above that quotes within quotes are not indicated as
such.

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Re: [Evolution] exchange calendar

2018-08-20 Thread Gary Curtin
On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 17:11 -0600, William Dossett via evolution-list
wrote:
> Can anyone else confirm if they are using Evo
> with an Exchange 365 server? Just wondering if that could be an issue.

I tried this with Outlook.com Exchange. Mail works fine, but no
calendars or events visible even after setting up calendar. 

This is on Evolution 3.28.5

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Re: [Evolution] conversations/threads

2018-08-19 Thread Gary Curtin
On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 19:06 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> JFTR a search folder is a virtual folder, no message is moved to a
> search folder.

A Search Folder to approximate a conversation would have to include 
ALL messages in EVERY folder, which means you lose the folder tree
structure within the Search Folder. So essentially a single folder.

Thanks to everyone who commented on my question, especially Patrick for
the definition of conversation.

Hopefully someone will edit the wikipedia page so that conversations is
no longer displayed as a feature of Evolution.

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Re: [Evolution] Deleting Messages

2018-08-19 Thread Gary Curtin
On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 18:34 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Gary, perhaps it just happened by accident, when you trimmed the quote,
> but the quote is not marked as a quote.

This happens regularly with Evolution when changing from HTML to Plain
Text. Often it is marked as a quote after the change, but also
regularly it is not. I am a little quick with selecting Plain Text from
the drop-down, then clicking on Send that I do not always notice that
the > have not been added to the quote.

I know it is inconvenient for the reader, but maybe you could allow for
Evolution bugs when replying to the Evolution List, rather than
requiring that members perform acrobatics to get Evolution to work the
way it should. :-)

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Re: [Evolution] conversations/threads

2018-08-19 Thread Gary Curtin
On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 18:52 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> I
> never did the following, but a search folder, e.g.
> 
>any of the following conditions
> 
>Sender or Recipients contains a
>Sender or Recipients does not contain a
> 
>or
> 
>Date send is after 01-Jan-1970
> 
>or
> 
>something else that always results in "true"
> 
>and
> 
>Add all folders
> 
> should do the job.

A Search folder could approximate a conversation, but that is really
messy. It is also the same as having just a single folder for ALL
messages.

The beauty of conversations is that you can keep your extended folder
tree, but messages in any of those folders, if part of a thread, will
be displayed as a conversation without having to move them to a common
folder.

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Re: [Evolution] conversations/threads

2018-08-19 Thread Gary Curtin
On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 17:35 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> What's a "conversation"? 

A conversation is more than a thread in that it includes messages from
other folders that are part of the thread. So that means the sent ones
as well.

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[Evolution] conversations/threads

2018-08-19 Thread Gary Curtin
At https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_email_clients, Evolution
is marked as being able to display both conversation and threaded
views.

While I have been able to find Group by Threads, I have not been able
to find any settings for conversations. Is this maybe some mistake on
the wikipedia page?

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Re: [Evolution] Deleting Messages

2018-08-19 Thread Gary Curtin
On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 07:26 -0700, Mr. J wrote:
Opening a spam/malware message can result in release of the virus or notice to 
the spammer that the email address is a good one. 

Virus or malware is usually activated by clicking on a link or opening
an attachment. Just viewing a message will do nothing. And even though
Linux is not immune to viruses, it is highly unlikely that this could
happen anyway.

If you don't accept a read receipt, and leave Evolution set to the
default setting to never load remote content from the Internet, there
is no chance that a spammer will know that you have opened the message.

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Re: [Evolution] Deleting Messages

2018-08-19 Thread Gary Curtin
On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 11:43 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> Do you delete messages in a separate message window instead of the main
> window? What is a "parent folder"? It's unclear to me what this means.

I have this same requirement but have not been able to find a setting
to change it. Maybe I am missing something.

When viewing a message in a separate window, after I delete the
message, I prefer to go back to the message list rather than have the
next message in the list displayed in the separate window. I guess it
is just something I got used to with other mail clients. But it is not
a big deal for me as the benefits of Evolution far outweigh the few
habits I formed with other applications.

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Re: [Evolution] GPG - cannot verify sender

2018-08-15 Thread Gary Curtin
On Wed, 2018-08-15 at 15:34 -0500, Japhering wrote:
> Gang, correct me if I'm wrong... 
> 
> I read this as the sender's public key is not on Gary's keyring in
> Seahorse and/or
> not available from a public key server.
> 

No, the sender's key was added but just receiving the key does not
verify it. The trust level had to be set to 5 - Ultimate. Thanks to
Ralf's detained reply I discovered that I had the trust level at 4 -
Fully. BIG misunderstanding on my part of what fully meant.


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Re: [Evolution] GPG - cannot verify sender

2018-08-15 Thread Gary Curtin
On Wed, 2018-08-15 at 14:03 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> If you trusted (or revoked the trust) you need to select another mail
> by Evolution and after that select the mail with this particular
> key again, to change the colour from yellow to green (or green to
> yellow).

Thanks Ralf. Your detailed example made complete sense.

I guess that the Evolution warning/information bar will remain yellow
with every trust setting except ultimate. Which is confusing for a
newbie because setting the trust to fully does imply that I have
verified the sender, even if Evolution does not think so. :-)


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Re: [Evolution] GPG - cannot verify sender

2018-08-15 Thread Gary Curtin
On Wed, 2018-08-15 at 12:18 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> Evolution just calls gpg in the background to do this sort of thing. I
> suggest you do something like 
> 
>gpg --list-keys
> 
> to verify the key is there and, most importantly, that there is a chain
> of trust for the key. After all, the message you are getting means that
> they key is recognised as being valid, but there is not sufficient
> information to say that the key really belongs to that person. If you
> are certain that the key belongs to that person - and only if you have
> verified that it does - you can sign the key and the bar will turn
> green. But don't sign it unless you are really sure that the key is
> correct.

Is there some kind of delay between signing the key in Seahorse, and
Evolution recognising that it is trusted/verified?

Using "gpg --list-keys" verifies that it is there, and in Seahorse I
see that I have signed the key as trusted. But the yellow bar in
Evolution has not changed. If I remove the key from Seahorse, then the
bar changes to grey saying that the message is signed but there is no
public key in my keyring. Adding the key again and signing it, the bar
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[Evolution] GPG - cannot verify sender

2018-08-15 Thread Gary Curtin
Newbie with Evolution and GPG, so please be patient. :-)

When receiving GPG signed messages I keep getting the yellow error bar
saying "Valid signature, but cannot verify sender (Name <
em...@address.com>)

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Re: [Evolution] spell check

2018-08-14 Thread Gary Curtin
On Sun, 2018-08-12 at 14:29 -0500, Japhering wrote:
> I see the same behaviour as well. It is seemingly random, but always,
> involves punctuation.

Yes, this definitely involves punctuation. See attached screenshot.
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Re: [Evolution] cloning setting

2018-08-13 Thread Gary Curtin
On Mon, 2018-08-13 at 15:39 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> I don't know what the meercats say.

"Simples!"

It is a UK TV thing. :-)

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Re: [Evolution] cloning setting

2018-08-13 Thread Gary Curtin
On Mon, 2018-08-13 at 13:41 +0100, Richard Bown wrote:
> What else needs to be copied across

I recently did the same but I used Evolution's own backup and restore
option. That does the /.config/evolution/ folder as well.

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Re: [Evolution] PGP signing and aliases

2018-08-13 Thread Gary Curtin
On Mon, 2018-08-13 at 12:50 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> got fixed in 3.28.4.

Henceforth there should be no issues with urls that I paste, as I
upgraded to 3.28.5.

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Re: [Evolution] PGP signing and aliases

2018-08-13 Thread Gary Curtin
On Mon, 2018-08-13 at 12:50 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> Feel free to tell your distribution to ship recent versions.

Yes, I suppose Ubuntu is a little behind Fedora!
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Re: [Evolution] PGP signing and aliases

2018-08-13 Thread Gary Curtin
On Mon, 2018-08-13 at 12:20 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> A wrapped URL is _not_ an Evolution bug

Is this not the same as https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7575
04
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Re: [Evolution] PGP signing and aliases

2018-08-13 Thread Gary Curtin
On Mon, 2018-08-13 at 12:20 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> A wrapped URL is _not_ an Evolution bug. It's no issue at all for
> Evolution, but some MUAs are unable to handle it.

Sent as plain text from Evolution 3.28.1-2, it appears whole in the
compose window, but after sending it appears broken in the sent
message.

I guess you can make with this what you want as no other MUA was
involved. :-)
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Re: [Evolution] PGP signing and aliases

2018-08-13 Thread Gary Curtin
On Mon, 2018-08-13 at 10:31 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> BTW when posting URLs be careful about line wrapping. Recent versions
> of Evo cope with this

Yes, sorry about that. It is a bug in the version of Evolution (3.28.1-
2) that I am using. ;-(
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Re: [Evolution] spell check

2018-08-12 Thread Gary Curtin
On Sun, 2018-08-12 at 13:26 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> Feel free to provide basic information such as Evolution version,
> enchant version, hunspell version, Linux distribution, which exact
> languages are enabled and affected, a specific test case.

Evolution 3.28.1-2
Enchant 1.6.0-11.1
Hunspell 1.6.2-1
Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS 64-bit
English (UK)

Difficult to provide a test case, as I said in my original question it
often does this. That means not always. When it does happen, it is
generally the word before the punctuation, so that means there is often
no space between the word and the punctuation.
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[Evolution] spell check

2018-08-12 Thread Gary Curtin
While composing messages, the automatic spell check often underlines
words at the end of the sentence before the period. They are not
misspelled, and when I right-click on them the red line just
disappears. 

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[Evolution] error with message filter

2018-08-12 Thread Gary Curtin
I created an outgoing message filter to delete messages sent to a
specific address after sending.

Nothing complicated in the filter, just outgoing for any account where
recipients contains the address. The action is Delete.

The message sends and the filter deletes the message, but then I get an
error popup that says:

Error while Downloading new messages for offline mode in "Account:
Sent".
Cannot get message with message ID X: No such message available

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[Evolution] PGP signing and aliases

2018-08-12 Thread Gary Curtin
When PGP signing of messages by default is enabled, it seems that any
aliases on that account are being signed using the parent account PGP
signature. So the receiver gets a signature which is valid, just not
for the sender's address.

Any idea on how to prevent aliases taking the parent signature, but
still have the parent account enabled for signature by default?

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[Evolution] Contact "File Under" order

2018-08-11 Thread Gary Curtin
I must be missing something because I can't figure out how to change
the default File Under order from Last, First to First Last. 

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Re: [Evolution] Is it possible to reduce the width of Side Bar.

2018-06-20 Thread Gary Curtin
On Wed, 2018-06-20 at 11:09 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> it's because the minimum width constraint of the left-bottom mini-
> calendar

I did not think of that, but it makes perfect sense. Thanks Milan.

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Re: [Evolution] Is it possible to reduce the width of Side Bar.

2018-06-20 Thread Gary Curtin
On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 18:32 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> You can via dragging and dropping the separator, but only to a certain
> minimum size.

That works fine on my computer until I go to the Calendar tab. Then the
side bar width is reset to what it was and can no longer be dragged
narrower in the Mail tab. Restarting Evolution will allow the Mail side
bar to be narrower until I go to the Calendar again. Dragging wider is
not affected.

Andre, is this maybe because of a minimum width imposed in the Calendar
tab, either by default or because of a calendar name that is
restricting the width? 

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Re: [Evolution] evolution RSS

2018-06-19 Thread Gary Curtin
I did not file a bug report as that has already been done by others and
I did not have anything new to add. I was not sure, that is why I was
just asking those in the know, who use the application, if there was
any update in the status of it being fixed. My apologies.

 
On Tue, 2018-06-19 at 13:12 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
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Re: [Evolution] evolution RSS

2018-06-19 Thread Gary Curtin
I guess there is no simple answer, which in itself is an answer: it is still 
broken. :-(


> Could you please link to a corresponding bug report for that problem?
> Also see https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-rss/commits/master
> toget an impression of latest development activity.
> Cheers,andre
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Re: [Evolution] send in background

2018-06-17 Thread Gary Curtin
Thanks for the reply Pete.

> That is, effectively, "send in background".

I suspected that was as close to send in background as I could get, but
was still hoping there may be something more.  

> But, I don't really understand the problem - you can have
> multiplecompose windows open and there's nothing to stop you from
> starting tocompose another email while the other one spends time
> sending. 

I guess it is just from habit that as soon as I click send, I expect
the window to close so I can get on with other things. Yes, I can click
again on the main Evolution window and continue, but again I was hoping
for a little more.

> Besides, yes, the compose window stays open while things are
> finished,but TBH I don't think I could physically move the mouse fast
> enoughbetween clicking "Send" and getting to the message window and
> clicking"New" or selecting a new message and clicking "Reply".

I suppose things are different for you as it does take a few seconds
before the window closes on my computer. I guess from years of gaming
my mouse reflexes are very fast. :-)

> What you are effectively saying you want is for the composewindow to
> disappear as soon as you press send?  I think the problemwith that is
> the sending status messages appear in that window and ifthere are
> problems with sending, the composed message needs to be shown so that
> the user can decide what to do (Try Again / Save as draft /Discard /
> Cancel).

Yes, you are absolutely correct about what I want, and you also have a
few good points. However, there is the message pane that appears below
the tool bar when things go wrong, so that just seems like double
notifications.

I guess I just need to adjust if I can't have it setup to what I am
used to. Except for this issue and the RSS problem, I am quite happy
with Evolution.

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[Evolution] send in background

2018-06-17 Thread Gary Curtin
Having been a Thunderbird user for many years, in that application I
had set message sending to be in background. I am so used to starting a
new message after clicking send, that the delay while the message is
sent is causing me some frustration. I since selected to send messages
through Outbox folder, which reduced the time significantly, but there
is still some small delay before the compose window is closed.

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[Evolution] evolution RSS

2018-06-17 Thread Gary Curtin
Wondering what the status is of evolution-rss? I had previously tried
it on a fresh install of Ubuntu 17.04, but Evolution kept crashing
after I added a feed. So after I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 18.04,
using Evolution 3.28.1-2 and evolution-rss 0.3.95-8build2 amd64, the
same thing happened.

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