Re: [Evolution] How does Evolution open a URL in a new tab in firefox?
On Sat, 2022-03-12 at 12:57 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Fri, 2022-03-11 at 18:42 -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > > How does Evolution open a URL in a new tab in firefox? > > > > I can't do it from the command line. Online discussion says to use > > the "--new-tab" command-line option, but firefox always puts up a > > window saying it's already running, and inviting me to create a new > > profile. > > > > I have other applications for which Id like to open a new tab (or > > new > > window), not start another instance of firefox, such as kalarm. > > > > Dolphin can do it too. Nautilus can do it. > > > > How does Evolution (or dolphin or nautilus) do it? > > > > Evolution (or the others) don't actually do it themselves. They use > xdg-open which opens whatever in the users preferred application. So > something like > > xdg-open http://www.gnome.org > > will open the wewbsite in your preferred browser using the configured > mechanism (new window, new tab, etc.). This applies to not just URLs - > it works for files - give it a .docx file, it will open LibreOffice, > give it an image, it will open gimp etc. etc. Thanks for the explanation. That works from my command line, but doesn't work in kalarm. > P. > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] How does Evolution open a URL in a new tab in firefox?
How does Evolution open a URL in a new tab in firefox? I can't do it from the command line. Online discussion says to use the "--new-tab" command-line option, but firefox always puts up a window saying it's already running, and inviting me to create a new profile. I have other applications for which Id like to open a new tab (or new window), not start another instance of firefox, such as kalarm. Dolphin can do it too. Nautilus can do it. How does Evolution (or dolphin or nautilus) do it? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] GMail & OAuth?
On Sun, 2022-03-06 at 22:28 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2022-03-06 at 11:34 -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > > gmail doesn't work at all for me, using Evolution 3.38.3-1 on KDE > > on > > Debian Buster 10. > > Have you tried Gnome Online Accounts using gnome-control-center from > the command line, as discussed in the past couple of days in this > thread? It just sits there until I click on any Firefox window. Then I get: 876: gnome-control-center (gnome-control-center:3918671): Gdk-ERROR **: 16:00:20.107: The program 'gnome-control-center' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)'. (Details: serial 4365 error_code 9 request_code 139 (RENDER) minor_code 4) (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. To debug your program, run it with the GDK_SYNCHRONIZE environment variable to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.) Trace/BPT trap ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] GMail & OAuth?
gmail doesn't work at all for me, using Evolution 3.38.3-1 on KDE on Debian Buster 10. Trying to change authentication to Oath2 results in an error message in the Account Editor dialogue: "The name :1.2237 was not provided by any .service files." Trying to open the inbox puts up a window that has a URL in it. Touching the window, or any keystroke, including the "Print Screen" key, makes that window go blank, so I can't show it to you (I suppose I could photograph it). If I catch the URL really quickly, I can go to the google page. I eventually get to a Google "Sign In" page that says "Please copy this code, switch to your application, and paste it there:" Where do I paste it in Evolution? On Sat, 2022-03-05 at 19:11 -0800, Robert McDonald wrote: > On Sat, 2022-03-05 at 18:28 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > On Fri, 2022-03-04 at 21:36 +, Mark Stanton wrote: > > > > when you create the account in Evolution and give it a > > > > gmail.com > > > > address it will set all the correct parameters. > > > > > > Will that work changing the account setup from password to OAuth? > > > I > > > tried that and I'm not sure it worked, but I'm sending a test > > > message > > > to try to confirm that. > > > > Quite possibly it will work, but it would probably be better to get > > things "normalised" by deleting the account setup and re-doing it. > > It's > > all IMAP really, so all your mail is on the server so everything > > will > > be restored > > I got the same email about the May 30 deadline for both of my GMail > accounts, so today I: > 1. read https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255 > 2. logged into one of the Google accounts via web browser > 3. confirmed backup email address > 4. tried changing one of the accounts in Evolution to "OAuth2 > (Google)" in both receive and send configurations (didn't > delete > and re-do the account) > 5. got Google Mail Authentication request within an Evolution > email > request > 6. entered email address to web page presented by Google web > server > (window shows the URL of the server - nice confirmation) > 7. entered password to similar page > 8. chose to Allow trust of Evolution > 9. disabled "Less secure app access" in that Google account > I was able to send and receive emails using that account after that. > I > found Evolution's handling of OAuth2 easy to follow. It just worked. > > I changed my second Gmail account an hour or two later the same way. > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] "Sent" folder went empty
The "Sent" folder on my sbcglobal.net server is suddenly empty. My "Search" panel is empty. Under the covers, sbcglobal.net is att.net. When I look at my account at att.net using Firefox, the sent folder is intact. How do I get it back in Evolution? Using Evolution 3.38.3-1 on KDE on Debian Buster 10. Van Snyder van.sny...@sbcglobal.net ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution 3.38.3-1 crash
Evolution 3.38.3-1 crashed when it tried to open one message. Of course, I can't reproduce the message here, because evolution crashes when it tries to open it. I had to be very quick to delete it, but I eventually succeeded in being able to use evolution again. Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 11 KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.5 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.78.0 Qt Version: 5.15.2 Kernel Version: 5.10.0-9-amd64 OS Type: 64-bit Processors: 4 × Intel® Core™ i3 CPU 530 @ 2.93GHz Memory: 3.7 GiB of RAM Graphics Processor: llvmpipe (evolution:1347451): Gdk-ERROR **: 12:33:38.495: The program 'evolution' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)'. (Details: serial 163258 error_code 9 request_code 139 (RENDER) minor_code 4) (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. To debug your program, run it with the GDK_SYNCHRONIZE environment variable to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.) --Type for more, q to quit, c to continue without paging-- Thread 1 "evolution" received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap. 0x771f5abb in g_log_writer_default () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 (gdb) bt #0 0x771f5abb in g_log_writer_default () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 #1 0x771f3c67 in g_log_structured_array () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 #2 0x771f4762 in g_log_structured_standard () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 #3 0x734e5bca in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgdk-3.so.0 #4 0x734f2f53 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgdk-3.so.0 #5 0x72474864 in _XError () at /lib/x86_64-linux- gnu/libX11.so.6 #6 0x72471327 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 #7 0x724713c5 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 #8 0x7247262d in _XReply () at /lib/x86_64-linux- gnu/libX11.so.6 #9 0x7246de2b in XSync () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 #10 0x7246decb in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 #11 0x724751ef in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 #12 0x7fffed0c4b45 in XRenderCreatePicture () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXrender.so.1 #13 0x72383fe1 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcairo.so.2 #14 0x72381e29 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcairo.so.2 #15 0x7235f9b1 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcairo.so.2 #16 0x7235fdb4 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcairo.so.2 #17 0x7230641e in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcairo.so.2 #18 0x72382dd1 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcairo.so.2 #19 0x7235785e in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcairo.so.2 #20 0x7230ed75 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcairo.so.2 #21 0x72307dca in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcairo.so.2 #22 0x7236507a in cairo_fill () at /lib/x86_64-linux- gnu/libcairo.so.2 #23 0x7458f775 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libwebkit2gtk- 4.0.so.37 #24 0x74513800 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libwebkit2gtk- 4.0.so.37 #25 0x7790d654 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #26 0x776e1b95 in gtk_container_propagate_draw () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #27 0x776e1c9d in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #28 0x778fe151 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #29 0x776e6f6d in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #30 0x776ec881 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #31 0x778fef3d in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #32 0x7790d654 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #33 0x776e1b95 in gtk_container_propagate_draw () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #34 0x776e1c9d in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #35 0x7783c8e9 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #36 0x776e6f6d in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #37 0x776ec881 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #38 0x7783a871 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #39 0x7790d654 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #40 0x776e1b95 in gtk_container_propagate_draw () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #41 0x776e1c9d in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #42 0x77692eb4 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #43 0x776e6f6d in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #44 0x776ec881 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #45 0x77695831 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #46 0x7790d654 in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #47 0x776e1b95 in gtk_container_propagate_draw () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #48 0x776e1c9d in () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 #49 0x77692eb4
Re: [Evolution] Strange result from copying
On Sun, 2022-01-16 at 13:03 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > I intended to copy a small piece of text from the Firefox to a > message being composed, namely (the result of copying from Firefox to > Vi, then from Vi to Evolution): > Biden took aim at those who would lower prices by breaking the buying > power of the working class. “If car prices are too high right now, > there are two solutions,” Biden said. “You increase > the supply of cars by making more of them, or you reduce demand for > cars by making Americans poorer. That’s the choice. Believe it or > not, there’s a lot of people in the second camp.” > > This is what got pasted to evolution (the result of copying directly > from the NY Times; copy and paste; and highlight, center-clidk yield > the same result): > 洼瑥瑨灴攭畱癩∽潣瑮湥祴数•潣瑮湥㵴琢硥⽴瑨汭※档牡敳㵴瑵ⵦ∸䈾摩湥琠潯楡瑡琠潨敳眠潨眠畯摬氠睯牥瀠楲散祢戠敲歡湩桴畢楹杮ਠ > 潰敷景琠敨眠牯楫杮挠慬獳胢䦜慣牰捩獥愠敲琠潯栠杩楲桧⁴潮ⱷ琠敨敲 牡睴潳畬楴湯ⱳ胢楂敤慳摩胢妜畯椠据敲獡桴畳灰祬漠 > 慣獲戠⁹洊歡湩潭敲漠桴浥牯礠畯爠摥捵敤慭摮映牯挠牡祢洠歡湩流牥捩湡瀊潯敲吠慨馀桴档楯散敂楬癥瑩漠潮ⱴ琠敨敲胢 > 玙愠氠瑯漠数灯敬椠੮琠敨猠捥湯慣灭鶀 > Any ideas. I fear (and hope) that this problem can't be reproduced. I have this problem, and a related one, frequently. I think it's an artifact of some web page generators maybe switching to UTF-8. I also noticed that in some cases, highlighting a paragraph, copying to the clipboard (Ctrl-C), and trying to paste it (Ctrl-V) does nothing. The workaround for both of these is not to select the last character of the paragraph. My system is Debian 10 (Buster) with KDE Plasma 5.20.5 KDE Frameworks 5.78.0 Qt 5.15.2 Kernel 5.10.0-90-amd64 > System is: > Operating System: Fedora Linux 35 > KDE Plasma Version: 5.23.4 > KDE Frameworks Version: 5.89.0 > Qt Version: 5.15.2 > Kernel Version: 5.15.14-200.fc35.x86_64 (64-bit) > Graphics Platform: X11 > Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz > Memory: 15.5 GiB of RAM > Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® HD Graphics 4600 > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) – evolution 3.38.3-1 – terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'
Thanks to Christian for the detailed advice concerning how to downgrade libwebkit2gtk. This does indeed rescue evolution from Debian oblivion. I encountered one obstacle on the way. I also had a newer version of libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 that prohibited downgrading libwebkitgtk. So I had to add this to /etc/apt/preferences, in addition to those advised by Christian: Package: libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 Pin: release a=stable Pin-Priority: 1005 I did not have a file /etc/apt/preferences; rather an empty directory /etc/apt/preferences.d. I simply created the file. Doing so caused no problems. With grateful thanks to the Evolution team,Best regards, Van Snyder On Sunday, November 14, 2021, 01:18:59 PM PST, Christian Focke wrote: On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 00:18:02 +0100, Christian Focke wrote: > I had a Pin-Priority in /etc/apt/preferences that prevented downgrading from > 'oldstable' to 'stable'. @Van Snyder In reply to your private message, you need to install the two packages below: user@host:~$ apt search libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 Sorting... Done Full Text Search... Done libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37/stable,now 2.32.4-1~deb11u1 amd64 [installed] Web content engine library for GTK libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37-gtk2/stable,now 2.32.4-1~deb11u1 all [installed] Transitional dummy package user@host:~$ While, usually, 'stable' currently is a pointer to 'bullseye' and vice versa, this seems to be broken for 'libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37'; therefore: *** OLD /etc/apt/preferences *** Package: * Pin: release a=bullseye Pin-Priority: 745 *** NEW /etc/apt/preferences *** Package: * Pin: release a=stable Pin-Priority: 745 Package: libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 Pin: release a=stable Pin-Priority: 1005 The second block enforces the downgrade, you may comment it out afterwise. Hope this helps, Christian P.S. I am using GNOME, not KDE. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) – evolution 3.38.3-1 – terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc
Does anybody know whether the KDE plasma desktop uses the WebKitGTK that has apparently broken Evolution? After naively taking the advice to upgrade libwebkit2gtk, in addition to evolution not working at all, the KDE plasma taskbar occasionally becomes corrupted, and some icons on the desktop become corrupted. Has anybody notified the Debian developers that libwebkit2gtk has broken evolution? I tried to get an account, to report the problem. The process promises to send an email message with a link for confirmation, but the promised message never arrived. So I don't have a Debian account to use to report the problem. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) – evolution 3.38.3-1 – terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'
Christian Focke wrote that downgrading WebKitGTK was the solution to getting evolution to work again in Debian. Christian: Can you provide more details? I did the recommended user@host:~$ apt search libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 but I haven't been able to downgrade. Did you use "apt-get install?" What were the remaining command-line fields? Christian mentioned a "Pin-Priority in /etc/apt/preferences that prevented downgrading from 'oldstable' to 'stable'." I don't have a file "/etc/apt/preferences." I have a directory "/etc/apt/preferences.d" but it's empty. /var/log/dpkg.1 has this records concerning libwebkit2gtk: 2021-10-26 12:16:36 upgrade libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.32.4-1~deb10u1 2.32.4-1~deb11u1 2021-10-26 12:16:36 status half-configured libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.32.4-1~deb10u1 2021-10-26 12:16:36 status unpacked libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.32.4-1~deb10u1 2021-10-26 12:16:36 status half-installed libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.32.4-1~deb10u1 2021-10-26 12:16:38 status unpacked libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.32.4-1~deb11u1 2021-10-26 12:31:36 configure libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.32.4-1~deb11u1 2021-10-26 12:31:36 status unpacked libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.32.4-1~deb11u1 2021-10-26 12:31:36 status half-configured libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.32.4-1~deb11u1 2021-10-26 12:31:36 status installed libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.32.4-1~deb11u1 2021-10-31 19:26:02 upgrade libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.32.4-1~deb11u1 2.34.1-1~deb10u1 2021-10-31 19:26:02 status half-configured libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.32.4-1~deb11u1 2021-10-31 19:26:02 status unpacked libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.32.4-1~deb11u1 2021-10-31 19:26:02 status half-installed libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.32.4-1~deb11u1 2021-10-31 19:26:03 status unpacked libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.34.1-1~deb10u1 2021-10-31 19:26:06 configure libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.34.1-1~deb10u1 2021-10-31 19:26:06 status unpacked libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.34.1-1~deb10u1 2021-10-31 19:26:06 status half-configured libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.34.1-1~deb10u1 2021-10-31 19:26:06 status installed libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.34.1-1~deb10u1 I tried to register for a Debian maintainers account so I could contact them to report the problem. It promised to send a confirmation e-mail so I could generate a password and log in, but the promised message never arrived. Is anybody in the evolution list registered with the Debian maintainers? Has the problem in libwebkit2gtk been reported? Accept my apologies if this isn't correctly formatted. I'm still not getting messages from the evolution list,. I read the thread from the archive. I am reduced to "replying" by posting a new message using what I hope is enough information to connect it to the thread. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Deleted or moved items remain
I have my reader set up to draw a line through deleted or moved messages, instead of having them moved immediately. After I expunge the inbox, and empty trash, the next time I get a message or do "Send Receive", one of the deleted messages is almost always still in my inbox. Have I set up something wrongly? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Fw: Evolution stopped working altogether
It would have been helpful to you if I had attached the promised attachment. - Forwarded Message - From: van snyder To: evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021, 02:27:20 PM PDTSubject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution stopped working altogether The replies didn't reach me via e-mail, so I looked them up in the archive. I took your advice to set some environment variables (tcsh syntax): $: setenv GIGACAGE_ENABLED 0 $: setenv Malloc 1 Then I ran evolution from the command line with no options: $: Evolution (evolution-alarm-notify:46040): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: 14:18:43.183: Your application did not unregister from D-Bus before destruction. Consider using g_application_run(). terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc' what(): std::bad_alloc Abort If I run it from the root account instead of my own account, it doesn't complain about not unregistering from D-Bus, but the complaint about 'std::bad_alloc' remains. I tried to downgrade the recently-upgraded packages that appeared to be related to WebKitGTK, all claiming to be security (output from "grep webkit /var/www/dpkg.log.1 attached) using, e.g., $: apg-get install gir1.2-webkit2-4.0:amd64=2.32.4-1~deb10u1 but the Debian update server said the version doesn't exist. Milan wrote "Some of those updated packages broke Evolution." That's a good argument for a statically-linked code, if only you could do it. webkit Description: Binary data ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution stopped working altogether
The replies didn't reach me via e-mail, so I looked them up in the archive. I took your advice to set some environment variables (tcsh syntax): $: setenv GIGACAGE_ENABLED 0 $: setenv Malloc 1 Then I ran evolution from the command line with no options: $: Evolution (evolution-alarm-notify:46040): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: 14:18:43.183: Your application did not unregister from D-Bus before destruction. Consider using g_application_run(). terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc' what(): std::bad_alloc Abort If I run it from the root account instead of my own account, it doesn't complain about not unregistering from D-Bus, but the complaint about 'std::bad_alloc' remains. I tried to downgrade the recently-upgraded packages that appeared to be related to WebKitGTK, all claiming to be security (output from "grep webkit /var/www/dpkg.log.1 attached) using, e.g., $: apg-get install gir1.2-webkit2-4.0:amd64=2.32.4-1~deb10u1 but the Debian update server said the version doesn't exist. Milan wrote "Some of those updated packages broke Evolution." That's a good argument for a statically-linked code, if only you could do it. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution stopped working altogether
I got a message about security updates for Debian 10 Buster. They were mostly about WebKitGTK. Last week, when I started having trouble with gmail and OAuth2, one possibility remarked was that WebKitGTK might be causing the problem. So I eagerly accepted the updates. I logged out and logged in again. Evolution would not forward messages. So I rebooted. Now, when I load evolution from the KDE task bar nothing happens. When I load from a terminal command line, it says terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc' what(): std::bad_alloc (evolution-alarm-notify:4529): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: 19:48:40.765: Your application did not unregister from D-Bus before destruction. Consider using g_application_run(). and the graphic interface is not launched. What should I do? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Persistent unsendable undeletable message
When I close evolution 3.38.3-1 on Debian Buster 10, it says I have an
unsent message. The options are Cancel and Quit. If I cancel and then
"send all" (F12), it says there is an error sending a message, and
offers an opportunity to edit it.
I can't find a button to discard the message. Simply closing the window
apparently keeps it.
I tried changing the destination and subject, and erasing the body, but
it still can't be sent.
I used "Save as draft" from the File menu, then found the message in
the "Drafts" folder under "On This Computer" and deleted (and expunged)
it, but the next time I did "send all" it reappeared.
I looked in all my Outbox and and other Draft[s] folders, both in "On
This Computer" and in my mail accounts, but I can't find it.
I tried searching for the subject using
find ~/mail -type f -exec grep ... {}\;
and
find ~/Evolution -type f -exec grep ... {}\;
Logging out didn't help. Rebooting didn't help.
How do I delete the message?
While I have your attention (changing the subject):
I have my reader set up to draw a line through deleted or moved
messages, instead of having them moved immediately. After I expunge the
inpux, and empty trash, the next time I get a message or "Send
Receive", one of the deleted messages is almost always still in my
inbox. Have I set up something wrongly?
Van Snyder
van.sny...@sbcglobal.net
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Re: [Evolution] Version 3.38.3-1 keeps asking for passwords
On Mon, 2021-10-25 at 13:40 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > Evolution version 3.38.3-1 on Debian Buster 10 keeps asking for > passwords. > > It produces a indown that asks for a password. When I enter the > password, the window disappears, as though it is accepted, and then > reappears after about ten seconds. If I cancel it, the behavior is as > if the password was accepted. > > Why does it keep asking for the password when everything works? > > Is this corrected in a version that is newer than what Debian is > distributing (3.38.3-1)? There appear to have been two problems. One is that AT occasionally decides that my secure e-mail key no longer works, and I need to get a new one. This is because AT doesn't use OAth2 on their web access, but does use it with clients such as Evolution and Thunderbird. I still have another problem. When trying to read gmail accounts, evolution puts up a window that says "Login to your google account and accept conditions in order to access your account "gmail" (or any of my other gmail accounts), and "OAuth2 secret not found". It briefly has a URL in it for something having to do accounts.google.com/oath2/..., Eventually, it becomes a "Sign in with google" window in which nothing works -- and the URL disappears too quickly so I can't go there on my own. In particular, the "Next" button does not work. Any keystroke, or any click anywere else, turns the window back to blank, without even a URL. Eventually, I was able to triple-click in the URL window fast enough to capture the entirety before it disappeared. This took me to a google window with an "allow" button for evolution. Now I can read my gmail account. Google gives me a window with "Please copy this code, switch to your application and paste it there:" but I have no idea where to paste that into Evolution. I still get the "OAuth2 secret not found" every time I switch to a gmail account. Whenever evolution refreshes (I think my settings say ten minutes) it puts up that window for every gmail account, and puts "Failed to connect..." panels at the top: I'm using Evolution 3.38.3-1 on Debian Buster 10 with KDE. > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] OAuth2 secret not found and gmail
On Wed, 2021-10-27 at 09:37 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Tue, 2021-10-26 at 17:57 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > > I have no idea where to paste that into Evolution. An offer to save > > a > > password in my keyring is not presented. > > Hi, > there's no place to paste it in, the whole process is supposed to run > inside the credential prompt. What can I do when the credential prompt doesn't work? As remarked in the original message, the pop-up says "Login to google..." with a grey box and a URL, which rapidly disappears. Then the grey box is filled with an invitation to log in to google, in which nothing works. Any keystroke or mouse click erases the "log in to google" frame, leaving a grey pop-up only with "Log in to google..." and the URL pane erased. I can't send a screenshot of it having the "Sign in to google" invitation below the empty URL pane because any keystroke, including "Print Screen" erases it. > That it misbehaves is suspicious. Did you > update WebKitGTK recently? I have not updated WebKitGTK explicitly. I was unaware of its existence and role until I read this message. I ran "apt-get update". One is recommended to do this frequently. I haven't examined the long log to determine whether WebKitGTK was part of the update. > I do not know how Debian names it, maybe > webkit2gtk3 or any other name. I would try to downgrade it. Downgrading things in Debian is an invitation to get version conflicts, so that many things suddenly stop working. > Did you replace an existing value in the Seahorse or the key was not > there at all? There was a key in Seahorse when one gmail account was not working, but not others. Every time I go to google to get a new key, it's different. I replaced the not-working one in Seahorse, and it still doesn't work. And there's no entry in Seahorse for the other not-working gmail account. > If you replaced it, then it's too late to restore to the > previous state. The "OAuth2 Secret not found" can also show when the > evolution-source-registry, or better the libsecret, lost connection > to > the gnome-keyring-daemon. There was no additional information below "OAuth2 Secret not found" -- just a grey box that fairly quickly filled with the invitation to log into google, in which nothing worked. > There usually helps: > $ evolution --force-shutdown > which restarts Evolution and all the evolution-data-server processes, > thus they reconnect to the (new) gnome-keyring-daemon and other > background processes, which could restart meanwhile. I've done that, and rebooted, several times. For my sbcglobal.net accounts, when they want a password, there is a pop-up to provide a password. For gmail accounts, all that's produced is the non-working window that invites me to log in to google and get something to "paste into your application." Is there a special reason that Evolution produces a pop-up to request a password only for sbcglobal.net, and not for gmail.com? > Bye, > Milan > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version 3.38.3-1 keeps asking for passwords
On Mon, 2021-10-25 at 13:40 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > Evolution version 3.38.3-1 on Debian Buster 10 keeps asking for > passwords. > > It produces a indown that asks for a password. When I enter the > password, the window disappears, as though it is accepted, and then > reappears after about ten seconds. If I cancel it, the behavior is as > if the password was accepted. > > Why does it keep asking for the password when everything works? > > Is this corrected in a version that is newer than what Debian is > distributing (3.38.3-1)? There appear to have been two problems. One is that AT occasionally decides that my secure e-mail key no longer works, and I need to get a new one. This is because AT doesn't use OAth2 on their web access, but does use it with clients such as Evolution and Thunderbird. I still have another problem. When trying to read gmail accounts, evolution puts up a window that says "Login to your google account and accept conditions in order to access your account "gmail" (or any of my other gmail accounts), and "OAuth2 secret not found". It briefly has a URL in it for something having to do accounts.google.com/oath2/..., Eventually, it becomes a "Sign in with google" window in which nothing works -- and the URL disappears too quickly so I can't go there on my own. In particular, the "Next" button does not work. Any keystroke, or any click anywere else, turns the window back to blank, without even a URL. Eventually, I was able to triple-click in the URL window fast enough to capture the entirety before it disappeared. This took me to a google window with an "allow" button for evolution. Now I can read my gmail account. Google gives me a window with "Please copy this code, switch to your application and paste it there:" but I have no idea where to paste that into Evolution. I still get the "OAuth2 secret not found" every time I switch to a gmail account. Whenever evolution refreshes (I think my settings say ten minutes) it puts up that window for every gmail account, and puts "Failed to connect..." panels at the top: I'm using Evolution 3.38.3-1 on Debian Buster 10 with KDE. My account is van.sny...@sbcglobal.net, but I had to send it from my wife's account because AT also decided smtp no longer works. I'm trying to find out how to get a new smtp password from AT > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] OAuth2 secret not found and gmail
On Tue, 2021-10-26 at 17:57 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > Yesterday I started getting "OAuth2 Secret not found" pop-ups for > gmail accounts. > > At first, it's just a mostly-empty box with "Login to your Google > account and accept conditions in order to access your mail account > "gmail:gmail" (and similar messages for other gmail accounts). > > There's a URL pane that briefly has a URL in it, but the "image" area > in the bottom pane quickly fills with a "Sign in to googlle.com" > image in which nothing works. When that happens, the URL is erased. > Any keystroke, or a mouse click, erases that box. Pushing the > "Cancel" button simply repeats. Closing the pop-up window makes it go > away, until I try to read another message. > > I was able to triple-click suffiently quickly to pick up the URL and > paste it into my browser, where google asked me to allow Evolution to > access my account. I clicked "Allow" and it put up another message > that said "lease copy this code, switch to your application and paste > it there:" and then 62 characters of gibberish that I assume is some > kind of randomly-generated password. I logged into my gmail accounts through Firefox. The security pages insist Evolution can access them. > > I have no idea where to paste that into Evolution. An offer to save a > password in my keyring is not presented. > > I tried pasting the gibberish into the password box in seahorse for > that account, but it didn't change Evolution's behavior. > > I'm using Evolution 3.38.3-1 on Debian Buster 10. > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] OAuth2 secret not found and gmail
Yesterday I started getting "OAuth2 Secret not found" pop-ups for gmail accounts. At first, it's just a mostly-empty box with "Login to your Google account and accept conditions in order to access your mail account "gmail:gmail" (and similar messages for other gmail accounts). There's a URL pane that briefly has a URL in it, but the "image" area in the bottom pane quickly fills with a "Sign in to googlle.com" image in which nothing works. When that happens, the URL is erased. Any keystroke, or a mouse click, erases that box. Pushing the "Cancel" button simply repeats. Closing the pop-up window makes it go away, until I try to read another message. I was able to triple-click suffiently quickly to pick up the URL and paste it into my browser, where google asked me to allow Evolution to access my account. I clicked "Allow" and it put up another message that said "lease copy this code, switch to your application and paste it there:" and then 62 characters of gibberish that I assume is some kind of randomly-generated password. I have no idea where to paste that into Evolution. An offer to save a password in my keyring is not presented. I tried pasting the gibberish into the password box in seahorse for that account, but it didn't change Evolution's behavior. I'm using Evolution 3.38.3-1 on Debian Buster 10. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version 3.38.3-1 keeps asking for passwords
On Mon, 2021-10-25 at 22:21 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > It produces a indown that asks for a password. When I enter > > thepassword, the window disappears, as though it is accepted, and > > thenreappears after about ten seconds. If I cancel it, the behavior > > is asif the password was accepted. > > Why does it keep asking for the password when everything works? > Evolution doesn't store the passwords itself, it uses gnome- > keyring(via libsecret). If you are using a non-Gnome desktop then you > need tomake sure that gnome-keyring is running. It usually gets > startedautomatically, but sometimes with non-Gnome desktops it can > die andlibsecret keeps running with nowhere to store/retrieve > passwords. gnome-keyring is running. I tried killing and restarting it. I deleted all the keyring files. > How to fix it? Well often the most pragmatic approach is a reboot. Things were working fine until I rebooted. I have since rebooted several times. > P. > > > > ___evolution-list mailing > listevolution-l...@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Version 3.38.3-1 keeps asking for passwords
Evolution version 3.38.3-1 on Debian Buster 10 keeps asking for passwords. It produces a indown that asks for a password. When I enter the password, the window disappears, as though it is accepted, and then reappears after about ten seconds. If I cancel it, the behavior is as if the password was accepted. Why does it keep asking for the password when everything works? Is this corrected in a version that is newer than what Debian is distributing (3.38.3-1)? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Stuck on failed search
On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 21:05 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 10:54 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > > I'm using Debian 10 "Buster." The version of Evolution that > > itinstalls is 3.30.5-1.1. > > Yesterday, on only one account, and only in the inbox, not the > > sentbox or the archive box, instead of showing the list of > > messages, itshowed "No messages satisfy the search criteria." > > The search box is empty. > Check that the "Show:" drop-down next to the search box is set to > "AllMessages". Thanks, that did the trick. So that you get pestered with this question less frequently, add a suggestion about the "Show" dropdown to the "No message4s satisfy the search criteria" message. Something like "Check the Show dropdown on the left side of the Search box." > Help -> Contents -> Common Mail Questions and Problems > ->I cannot see some emails, where are > they? > P. > > ___evolution-list mailing > listevolution-l...@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Stuck on failed search
I'm using Debian 10 "Buster." The version of Evolution that it installs is 3.30.5-1.1. Yesterday, on only one account, and only in the inbox, not the sent box or the archive box, instead of showing the list of messages, it showed "No messages satisfy the search criteria." The search box is empty. I tried putting something into the search box, something I know pertains to one of the messages (which I can read on another computer). The condition persists. I closed and restarted evolution. The condition persists. How can I clear this, short of deleting the account and starting over? Van Snyder van.sny...@sbcglobal.net ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Yahoo IMAP stopped working ... again
On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 07:50 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 20:42 -0600, vsnyder wrote: > > I can access both accounts via web pages, which I assume do not > > useIMAP. > > AT and Yahoo service were no help. they blame Evolution. > > Hi,the Yahoo! service representatives sent messages with the > informationseveral times before they did this. You should receive > them as well, Iguess. See the attachment. I got my mail account from AT as SBC global, at sbcglobal.net. The back end was at yahoo.com. Maybe that's why they didn't bother to notify me, assuming AT would do it (which they didn't). > Bye,Milan___e > volution-list mailing listevolution-l...@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Can't authenticate yahoo imap
I've used Evolution on various Linux distributions for years. I have two accounts @sbcglobal.net. Both receive mail via imap.mail.yahoo.com on port 993 using TLS. One works fine. Starting yesterday, the other one asks for my password, then asks again, then asks again The message is "Authentication Failed IMAP server said BYE: IMAPrev4 imap.mail.yahoo.com. I didn't update any software. I didn't change any settings. I only sat down at my computer and clicked on the account's "Inbox" button. I reloaded Evolution. I rebooted. I changed my password. Nothing worked. I have evolution on three different Linux installations, from Debian, Ubuntu, and CentOS. I have the same behavior on all three computers. What next? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Composing in html mode
On Thu, 2020-07-23 at 21:59 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Thu, 2020-07-23 at 12:29 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > > Too bad there isn't a statically-linked version. > > The future is rather stuff like Flatpak / Snap / etc. The buzz words are kind of a mystery. Are there more details about how to install using these? > > andre > -- > Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net> https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/> > > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org> > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Composing in html mode
On Thu, 2020-07-23 at 10:13 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > > When I'm composing in html mode, I have experienced a few problems. > > Hi,I'm sorry to say this, but your 3.30.5 is too old. The > current stableversion is 3.36.4 (which means more than a year and > half of bug fixesand development - the 3.30.5 had been released on > 2019-02-04). Theresurely had been done some composer changes > meanwhile. I don't expect anybody to repair 3.30.5, only to call attention to the problem and hope it's repaired in a newer version. I'm current on all updates to Debian Buster 10.4. I tried to install Evolution independently of the distribution, but it depended upon so many libraries that are newer than the ones in the distribution that I was afraid of version conflicts messing up my system. Too bad there isn't a statically-linked version. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Composing in html mode
I'm using Evolution 3.30.5-1.1 on Debian Buster 10.4. When I'm composing in html mode, I have experienced a few problems. If I paste some text from a web page, and it includes paragraphs with blank lines between, the blank lines between the paragraphs disappear. If I pick up some white space within the message, followed by some text, and paste it, the white space disappears. If the material I paste from a web page has some non-text stuff in it, sometimes a graphic, sometimes something mysterious, I get a gob of wnite space that I can't delete. Sometimes the white space is between regions of text. Sometimes it's atop text that I can see sticking out around the edges of the white space. Sometimes after pasting some text, I can't paste any more. Neither by dropping with the middle mouse button, nor by using Ctrl-V. I can type text. Sometimes after typing text, I can paste more, but usually when it stops pasting, it's permanent. I can paste the text from the clipboard somewhere else, for example into an editor. I can save as draft and then finish it, but that's not an especially convenient work around. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] View -> Show Deleted Messages doesn't keep them
I have set View -> Show Deleted Messages. When I delete a message, as expected, it draws a line through its row in the upper pane. But if new mail arrives, and maybe under some other circumstances, the row disappears and the message is in the trash folder. Sometimes when I go to the trash folder and undelete a message, it disappears, as if I had emptied the trash -- but it's only that message that disappears, not all the trash. It's not back in the inbox; as far as I can tell, it's actually deleted. Have I set up something wrong? I'm using Evolution 3.30.5-1.1 on Debian Buster 10.4. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Style for deleted or moved messages
On my computer at work, where I don't have the root password, I have an antique evolution. When I delete or move a message, it draws a line through it. Then when I "expunge" the messages get deleted or moved. In 3.30.5-1.1, when I delete a message it goes directly to the trash folder. When I move a message, I assume it goes directly to its target. If I accidentally delete a message, go to the trash folder, and undelete it, it disappears. I looked all through Edit>Preferences and couldn't find a setting in 3.30.5-1.1 to change the style to "draw a line through deleted or moved messages." Can I still set up to do that, or is it gone? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Got one account sort-of working
On Tue, 26 May 2020 23:46:09 +0100 Pete Biggs wrote: It told you what the issue is - i.e. that it's a bug in the GnuTLS library. (This is about imap with TLS on 993 not working with sbcglobal.net, which is provided by yahoo.com. The error message is “Error performing TLS handshake: Internal error in memory allocation.”.). I have a non-yahoo account that receives using TLS on 993 and sends using STARTTLS on 587, and it works. Do different accounts use different versions of gnutls? I did "ldd /bin/evolution | grep tls" and there was no output. BTW, I did "ldd /usr/bin/thunderbird" and it said "not a dynamic executable". It's too bad evolution can't be statically linked. I really prefer evolution to thunderbird. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Got one account sort-of working
On 5/25/20 1:37 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: Please reply to your previous message instead of starting a new (detached) thread, so the context is clearer. I don't keep messages that don't lead to solutions to my problems, so I must apologize for not having memorized the subject line. The other two accounts still don't work. Instead of "I/O socket timed out," now the message is "Error performing TLS handshake: Internal error in memory allocation.". See my previous reply to you in a previous thread that you started. I don't keep messages that don't lead to solutions to my problems. If I remember the referenced message, it had two http links that led to pages wherein several users complained of the same problem I was having, but no solutions were offered. Maybe I misremember. Is there a way to delete all of evolution's configuration files and start over? I got the current problems because a disk drive died. I had been running Scientific Linux 6.9 on a 32-bit system. I got a new disk drive and a new computer. I installed SL 7.10 (because CentOS 8.1 doesn't have KDE), and restored my account from a backup. Maybe settings from the antique Evolution in SL 6.9 have confused the newer Evolution. I noticed that the names of some of the files in .config/evolution/sources have "@VanCE5" in their names. That's a hold-over from several years ago, when I was using CentOS 5. I'm currently using Thunderbird, but I really dislike it. I also have thousands of messages in Evolution archives, both on my home computer and my work computer. I have no idea whether I can access those messages in Thunderbird. If I can get Evolution working correctly, I won't have to worry about that. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Got one account sort-of working
I deleted the accounts that don't work and re-created them. One of them now sort-of works. I can send and receive mail. But... it has both a "Deleted Items" and "Trash" folders. Neither offers to "Empty Trash." Even though I've deleted messages, neither folder has anything in it. The other two accounts still don't work. Instead of "I/O socket timed out," now the message is "Error performing TLS handshake: Internal error in memory allocation.". Recreating the server settings resulted in about 60 "On This Computer" folders the next time I started Evolution, with names ending .ibex.index. What are these, and where did they come from? Can I delete them safely? The folders with familiar names appear to have had all their messages converted to folders. The contents display as junk. All using 3.28.5 (3.28.5-8.el7) on Scientific Linux 7.10 (essentially the same as CentOS 7.10). ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Mail port changed
I have Evolution 3.28.5 (3.28.5-8.el7) on Scientific Linux 7.10 (essentially the same as CentOS 7.10). I set up accounts for imap on port 993. They kept getting "socket timed out." So I checked the settings. They've back to POP on port 143. I changed them back to 993 and then checked. They always go back to 143. Except for one account, which keeps on working. The "Mail Accounts" tab on the "Preferences" page shows "imapx" for all of them. I tried re-installing evolution, but the same result ensues. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution on Scientific Linux 7.4 won't open accounts
Andre: Thanks for the links. Interesting, but didn't solve the problem. On Scientific Linux 7.8, I have gnutls-3.3.29-9.elz_6.x86_64 and nettle-2.7.1-8.el7.x86_64. Updating doesn't do anything, so I guess none of the SL repos have anything newer. I also have what appears to be a different problem: Failed to connect account "ABC". The reported error was “Failed to authenticate: No Kerberos credentials available (default cache: KEYRING:persistent:3593)”. Any further thoughts about either problem? The only one of my accounts that works is gmail imapx, but I don't use it much because google snoops everything. Van On Sat, 2020-05-23 at 10:36 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Fri, 2020-05-22 at 18:12 -0700, W Van Snyder wrote: > > I have installed Scientific Linux 7.4 on one of my own computers. > > > > It includes Evolution 3.28.5-8.el7. > > > > I set up my accounts in exactly the same way as in another computer, > > where everything works fine. > > > > All the accounts are imap. Evolution calls them imapx. > > > > After trying to open the inbox, one says > > > > Failed to connect account "XYZ". The reported error was “Error > > performing TLS handshake: Internal error in memory allocation.”. > > > > Another one says > > > > Failed to connect account "ABC". The reported error was “Failed to > > authenticate: No Kerberos credentials available (default cache: > > KEYRING:persistent:3593)”. > > > > (My UID is 3593). > > > > Is this a Scientific Linux problem or an Evolution problem? > > This has to do with underlying system libraries. See for example > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1876286 > https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=318363 > > Cheers, > andre > -- > Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net > https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ > > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution on Scientific Linux 7.4 won't open accounts
I have installed Scientific Linux 7.4 on one of my own computers. It includes Evolution 3.28.5-8.el7. I set up my accounts in exactly the same way as in another computer, where everything works fine. All the accounts are imap. Evolution calls them imapx. After trying to open the inbox, one says Failed to connect account "XYZ". The reported error was “Error performing TLS handshake: Internal error in memory allocation.”. Another one says Failed to connect account "ABC". The reported error was “Failed to authenticate: No Kerberos credentials available (default cache: KEYRING:persistent:3593)”. (My UID is 3593). Is this a Scientific Linux problem or an Evolution problem? In either case, I figure you guys are more likely to know the solution. Van Snyder ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution stuck on one mail message
On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 12:42 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > Sometimes when I open a mail message (i.e., click on it's item in the > summary pane), evolution gets stuck on that message and won't display > another one until I kill evolution. The "close" button doesn't work. > Alt-F4 doesn't work. > > I'm using an antique 2.32.3, because I'm not allowed to have the root > password for my computer. > > 1. How can I cause evolution to give up on displaying a message? This is a new problem. I've been using evolution 2.32.3 for years because my sys-admin retired and a new one hasn't taken over. Is there a chance there's something in a configuration file that's causing the problem? Which one? Where is it? The problem appears to occur when the message wants to load stuff using http or https. Sometimes it displays the content, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes, independently of whether it's displayed the content or not, that message is locked in the message text pane. There's a message "Retrieving http://so-and-so (0% complete)" in the bottom margin. Killing that using the little red "X" buttonb doesn't unlock the message text pane. I can still read messages by double clicking in the message preview line, which opens a separate window. I can still change the message preview to different accounts, or to different folders (such as "Bulk Mail"). I can still switch to other work, such as editing contacts. So the program isn't locked up. Just the message text pane. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution stuck on one mail message
On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 22:44 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 12:42 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > > Sometimes when I open a mail message (i.e., click on it's item in the > > summary pane), evolution gets stuck on that message and won't display > > another one until I kill evolution. The "close" button doesn't work. > > Alt-F4 doesn't work. > > > > I'm using an antique 2.32.3, because I'm not allowed to have the root > > password for my computer. > > > > 1. How can I cause evolution to give up on displaying a message? > > Close the message preview pane (if you are in the mail component). If > you open the message in a separate window then I guess you cannot. I don't see how to close the message preview pane. All I can do is shrink it by dragging the bar that divides it from the message text. > > > 2. Alternatively, how can I install evolution in my own > > account? > > I'm not sure I understand what that means or how it is related. > If you want to compile Evolution from source and install it in a custom > directory: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution#Developer_Resources > Good luck with the dependencies if you are running such a dated system. I was hoping there's a way to install a binary in my own account. Is there a statically-linked one that won't ask for stuff that's newer than the antique OS my computer has? > > Cheers, > andre > -- > Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net > https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ > > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution stuck on one mail message
On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 22:16 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 12:42 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > > Alternatively, how can I install evolution in my own account? I've > > been told that newer versions will want to change the format of the > > stored mail. I'd rather not do that because I have evolution on other > > computers (where it works fine). I keep their archives synchronized by > > rsync-ing, them using evolution to move from the received package into > > the correct archive directories. > > I'll just note that if your email provider supports IMAP none of that > is necessary. All of my accounts are on imap providers. But I don't have my archives at my providers. I have them on my own computers. > > poc > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution stuck on one mail message
Sometimes when I open a mail message (i.e., click on it's item in the summary pane), evolution gets stuck on that message and won't display another one until I kill evolution. The "close" button doesn't work. Alt-F4 doesn't work. I'm using an antique 2.32.3, because I'm not allowed to have the root password for my computer. 1. How can I cause evolution to give up on displaying a message? 2. Alternatively, how can I install evolution in my own account? I've been told that newer versions will want to change the format of the stored mail. I'd rather not do that because I have evolution on other computers (where it works fine). I keep their archives synchronized by rsync-ing, them using evolution to move from the received package into the correct archive directories. Thanks, Van Snyder van.sny...@sbcglobal.net ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution binaries for my own account in Linux
On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 09:51 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > In Scientific Linux 6.10, the version of Evolution is 2.32.3. > > > > Sending a message using Evolution occasionally produces a message such > > as > > > > 550 DMARC Sender Invalid - envelope rejected > > > > or > > > > 550-5.7.26 Unauthenticated email from ... is not accepted > > due to 550-5.7.26 domain's DMARC policy. > > Are you using a username & password to send through the SMTP server? Yes. Authentication uses STARTTLS > > Is there any consistent factor in when the error occurs? Seems to be random. > > > > The people who manage the smtp server insist the problem is emanating > > from my computer, not their server. Sometimes the message mentions my > > computer, not the institutional smtp server. My "sending" tab in > > Evolution settings specifies the institutional smtp server, not my > > computer. > > > > Is this problem known? > > I have plenty of people using CentOS6 without any issues. > > > > > Can I get binaries to install Evolution 3.34 in /home/opt on my computer > > (I'm allowed to own that directory)? I downloaded sources and tried to > > build it, but got another "You Idiot! You have an antique operating > > system!" message: > > > > CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:3 (cmake_minimum_required): > > CMake 3.1 or higher is required. You are running version > > 2.8.12.2 > > > > I tried to install cmake, but it wants a newer gettext than the > > installed one, > > Evolution 3.x needs the Gnome3 libraries - CentOS/SL/RHEL6 comes with > Gnome2. You will need to recompile much of the Gnome infrastructure to > get the necessary libraries on your system. It's not a 5 minute task > and I'm not sure it's even possible to get a functioning system without > root access. RHEL6 doesn't have flatpack support so you can't even go > down that route. > > I suspect your best bet is to ask if you can be upgraded to SL7 or > CentOS8 I was afraid you'd say that. Our SA retired and we don't have a new one yet. > P. > > > > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution binaries for my own account in Linux
I am using Scientific Linux 6.10. I'm not allowed to have the root password for my computer, so I can't install something newer. In Scientific Linux 6.10, the version of Evolution is 2.32.3. Sending a message using Evolution occasionally produces a message such as 550 DMARC Sender Invalid - envelope rejected or 550-5.7.26 Unauthenticated email from ... is not accepted due to 550-5.7.26 domain's DMARC policy. The people who manage the smtp server insist the problem is emanating from my computer, not their server. Sometimes the message mentions my computer, not the institutional smtp server. My "sending" tab in Evolution settings specifies the institutional smtp server, not my computer. Is this problem known? Does it depend upon a setting within my computer? Is it repaired in Evolution 3.34 (it doesn't happen if I send the same message using Thunderbird)? Can I get binaries to install Evolution 3.34 in /home/opt on my computer (I'm allowed to own that directory)? I downloaded sources and tried to build it, but got another "You Idiot! You have an antique operating system!" message: CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:3 (cmake_minimum_required): CMake 3.1 or higher is required. You are running version 2.8.12.2 I tried to install cmake, but it wants a newer gettext than the installed one, ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Autocomplete addresses from address book
I had evolution 2.32.3 on my old computer. I have 3.30.5-1.1 on my new computer. In 2.32.3, when I started typing an address, it offered one (or more) from my address book that began the same way. That doesn't happen in 3.30.5-1.1 as it was installed. I prowled all over the preferences and couldn't find anything that would turn on that behavior. Does it still exist? If so, how do I turn it on? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.30.5-1.1 won't read vCard file produced by 2.32.3
On Tue, 2019-12-24 at 23:44 +, Dominic Knight wrote: > On Mon, 2019-12-23 at 23:25 -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-12-24 at 02:31 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > > > On Mon, 2019-12-23 at 16:32 -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > > > > Here's the first vCard from the file. I tried putting it into a > > > > separate file and importing it alone. That didn't work either. > > > > > > Cannot reproduce. File gets imported into address book on 3.34.2. > > > > I have 3.30.5-1.1 because that's what's distributed with Debian > > Stable > > (not bleeding edge). Can I install a newer one without > > enduring/creating version mismatches for shared libraries? I was able to import into a new address book. I could not import into the "Personal" address book created automatically upon the first execution of Evolution. Now, I can't delete the empty "Personal" address book (but I was able to change its name to "Empty" and change he new one to "Persona"). > Bullseye has 3.34.1-2+b1 > > If you are happy to test, you could use synaptic, change your stable > to > bullseye or testing in the repository and then set evolution to > install > - don't apply though, just read what it will need to change. > > If you are happy with the changes go for it, if not, unclick > evolution, > and revert back to stable. > > The other alternative is to try Flatpak evolution which will install > required libraries in it's own seperated world. > > Dom. > > > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.30.5-1.1 won't read vCard file produced by 2.32.3
On Tue, 2019-12-24 at 02:31 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Mon, 2019-12-23 at 16:32 -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > > Here's the first vCard from the file. I tried putting it into a > > separate file and importing it alone. That didn't work either. > > Cannot reproduce. File gets imported into address book on 3.34.2. I have 3.30.5-1.1 because that's what's distributed with Debian Stable (not bleeding edge). Can I install a newer one without enduring/creating version mismatches for shared libraries? Is there a static-linked version? Were you able to import the file into 3.30.5-1.1? What can I do to import a VCF if the result is an empty address book? > > andre > -- > Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net > https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ > > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.30.5-1.1 won't read vCard file produced by 2.32.3
On Mon, 2019-12-23 at 22:22 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Mon, 2019-12-23 at 13:08 -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > > I replaced an old computer that had Evolution 2.32.3 with one that > > has > > 3.30.5-1.1. > > > > I exported the contact database from the old evolution as a vCard > > file. > > > > The new one won't read it. > > What does "won't read" mean? Which steps do you perform, and at which > exact point happens what exactly and what did you expect instead? I used the "Import" pick from the "File" menu. I selected "Import a single file." I selected the VCF that the old evolution had produced. I chose to import it into my personal address book. I pushed the "Apply" button. When it finished, it said "There are no items to show in this view." Here's the first vCard from the file. I tried putting it into a separate file and importing it alone. That didn't work either. BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:3.0 LABEL;TYPE=HOME:5018 Nancy Circle\nHuntsville\, AL\n35811 ADR;TYPE=HOME:;;5018 Nancy Circle;Huntsville;AL;35811; TEL;TYPE=HOME,VOICE;X-EVOLUTION-UI-SLOT=2:(256) 489 3092 X-MOZILLA-HTML:FALSE X-EVOLUTION-VIDEO-URL: FBURL: CALURI: X-EVOLUTION-BLOG-URL: NOTE: X-EVOLUTION-SPOUSE: NICKNAME: X-EVOLUTION-ASSISTANT: X-EVOLUTION-MANAGER: ROLE: TITLE: URL: REV:2013-08-20T22:27:23Z UID:pas-id-5D605BC700FA X-EVOLUTION-FILE-AS:Unsen\, Silke N:Unsen;Silke;;; FN:Silke Unsen EMAIL;TYPE=OTHER;X-EVOLUTION-UI-SLOT=1:silkeun...@yahoo.de END:VCARD > > > andre > -- > Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net > https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ > > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution 3.30.5-1.1 won't read vCard file produced by 2.32.3
I replaced an old computer that had Evolution 2.32.3 with one that has 3.30.5-1.1. I exported the contact database from the old evolution as a vCard file. The new one won't read it. How do I get the contact database from one to the other? Van Snyder van.sny...@sbcglobal.net ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] How to move and merge archive?
I have mail archives on two computers -- one at work and one at home. These are in my own filing systems, not on mail servers. Is it possible to copy an archive from one computer to another, and still see all the table-of-contents? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] X-evolution-account setting
I looked at another message that I had sent. I had copied it from my "Sent" folder to one of my storage folders. In addition to X-evolution-account, it has Message-id: <1333140299.29286.3.ca...@math.jpl.nasa.gov> Where does my machine name (math.jpl.nasa.gov) come from? My smtp server is a different (institutional) server, running Outlook (I think), named jpl.nasa.gov. The IT guys tell me it's my computer's name appearing in headers (I hadn't noticed it in Message-id earlier) that is causing trouble with DMARC when I try to send to some accounts. The DMARC complaint is that my message isn't authenticated. But my Evolution settings require a "login" transaction with smtp.jpl.nasa.gov. The IT guys did something to the smtp server that makes it possible to send to gmail.com, but now I can't send to berkeley.edu. Are they still blowing hot air at me, or is it possible that my computer's name appearing in Message-id is causing the DMARC problem? Can I convince Evolution to use the smtp server's name, not my computer's name? That seems dangerous because a message ID generated by my computer could, in principle, clash with an ID for a message ID generated by the smtp server for an entirely different message. Or is the smtp server supposed to replace the message ID from my computer with one of its own? On Wed, 2019-01-09 at 12:46 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2019-01-09 at 11:22 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > The X-Evolution-* headers are not exposed to the outside world - > > certainly not on recent versions. Some (perhaps all?) of the X- > > Evolution-* headers don't even really exist, they are inserted by > > Evolution when the mail is displayed and are not present in the > > stored emails. > > Hi, > that's true. There is a set of "helper" headers used by Evolution > itself when sending mails. Those can be visible in the Outbox folder > and they are removed before the message is passed to the transport > service. It's not that obvious when the Outbox folder is skipped, which > is the default behavior for some time now (the message is sent > immediately when the Send is clicked in the composer window). > > Such headers are X-Evolution-Identity (the From account UID), > X-Evolution-Fcc (the sent folder), X-Evolution-Transport (the transport > service UID, usually associated with the From account). Those UIDs used > to look like an email address, containing the "localhost". Newly > created UIDs look like SHA256 hash, thus they do not expose anything > from the local machine (some users consider it a private information). > The X-Evolution-Account header used to be used in the past and it > contains the same value as the X-Evolution-Identity. > > I suppose the headers are left in the message only because: > > On Tue, 2019-01-08 at 16:04 -0800, Van Snyder via evolution-list wrote: > > My outgoing mail isn't sent directly from my own computer. It's sent > > from an smtp server. > > which I understand as the messages are stored into some specific Outbox > (not the Evolution's) and some other server/sendmail/script picks > messages from there and pushes them into the world. I cannot imagine > other reason why that particular header would be left in the outgoing > message, especially if evolution itself would connect to the SMTP > server (+/- bugs in the code). I can be wrong, though. > Bye, > Milan > > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] X-evolution-account setting
My outgoing mail isn't sent directly from my own computer. It's sent
from an smtp server. But the X-evolution-account setting is my own
computer. That is apparently interfering with some setting in the smtp
server. I get messages like this:
: host aspmx.l.google.com[74.125.195.26] said: 550-5.7.1
Unauthenticated email from jpl.nasa.gov is not accepted due to 550-5.7.1
domain's DMARC policy. Please contact the administrator of 550-5.7.1
jpl.nasa.gov domain if this was a legitimate mail. Please visit 550-5.7.1
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 to learn about the 550 5.7.1
DMARC initiative. cd2si22321609plb.39 - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA
command)
My IT service guys -- the guys supposedly knowledgeable about (maybe
even administrators for) the smtp server, insist it's because the
X-evolution-accunt setting is my own computer, not the domain name for
the smtp server.
I looked through all the settings for my mail account and didn't see any
mention of my own computer, or X-evolution settings.
So I did the following:
# foreach f ( ~/.??* )
# find $f -type f -exec grep -il x-evolution-account {} \;
# end
The only files it found were in .cache/mozilla, .mozilla/firefox, and
files that are mail messages under .evolution.save and .local/share.
Nothing in those files looked like settings.
How can I cause the X-evolution-account setting to be the domain for my
smtp server, not my own computer?
Or does the above problem arise from some other cause?
Thanks,
Van Snyder
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Re: [Evolution] Duplex printing
On Fri, 2018-08-31 at 08:03 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Thu, 2018-08-30 at 14:37 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > > Has that "feature" been repaired in a newer version? > > Hi, > as far as I can tell, Evolution just prints to pages "the printer" > provides to it, it doesn't do any duplexing on its own. Maybe the > setting you did before printing got lost/overwritten for whatever > reason, I do not know. I'd expect you get the same result regardless > you print to a file and then to the printer or directly to the printer, > unless Acrobat does something else under the hood. I'd probably try to > print the same PDF from a Linux PDF reader, like using Atril or any > similar tool, which may also rely on the driver support for the duplex > printing. > Bye, > Milan I've had the same experience with Firefox. Some files appear to contain an instruction to the printer that subverts duplexing, and the CUPS driver isn't able to see that signal and replace it with the settings for the printer. Acroread apparently is able to send the file to the printer without embedded instructions that subvert the CUPS driver's settings. I think Milan said evolution doesn't insert such an instruction. So it was probably within the message, which was html. It would be nice if evolution could find it and remove it. Van ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Duplex printing
I have an antique Evolution, 2.32.3, because it's all that is delivered with Scientific Linux 6, and I'm not allowed to have the root password for my computer, so I can't upgrade until the SA gets around to it. We're upgrading to CE-7 soon, but I don't know which evolution comes with it. Anyway, today's problem is that I sent a file that is configured for duplex printing. It didn't duplex. If I print to a file, open the file with acroread, and print to the same printer, it does duplex. Has that "feature" been repaired in a newer version? Van ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution setup disappeared
While I was on vacation, my SA installed CE-7 on my computer. He also left SL-6.10. CE-7 didn't include KDE, so I re-booted to SL-6.10. My SA insists he didn't touch my account? When I opened evolution, it wanted to run the installation wizard. Where did all my account setups go? Or, more precisely, where were they originally, so I can restore them from a backup? I tried restoring ~/.evolution, but that didn't work. Thanks, Van Snyder ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Font size of printed text is HUGE!
On Mon, 2018-07-09 at 12:46 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2018-07-09 at 12:14 +0200, Francesco Porro via evolution-list > wrote: > > So? Any ideas? > > Hi, > I just tried it and my font is not that large as yours. The size is > derived from the font size of the view, the one in Edit->Preferences-> > Mail Preferences->General tab->Message Display section->[x] Use the > same fonts as other applications. I'm not aware of any separate setting > for print and for the message preview, unfortunately. > Bye, > Milan On all of my computers, I have selected "use the same fonts as other applications." On one of them, the font is huge, even if I print to a file. On the others, it's normal. They're all running Scientific Linux 6.2, in which evolution 2.32.3 is bundled. For the one that has large fonts, I don't have the root password. > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
On Sun, 2018-07-08 at 20:18 +, Siv wrote: > Pete, > > Thanks for the explanation, given that I only have 1 POP3 account I > will just treat "On this computer" as that account. I may redo the > account as IMAP like it was originally as I am not sure why I selected > the POP3 version when I switched to Linux. Particularly as the > filtering idea sounds a bit complex. I also appreciate the explanation. It is unhelpful that evolution by default chose pop3 for use...@yahoo.com. (I don't know which version because it's not my computer, it's a 90 minute drive to visit it, and the owner isn't home anyway. I can ask her for the version when she gets home next week, if it's actually interesting.) I don't know what the newest version does. I hope it either offers a menu or radio button, or maybe a "query servers for server types" button. If a service offers both imap and pop protocols, it seems to me that imap is definitely to be preferred. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
On Sun, 2018-07-08 at 11:20 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Pete, > > One EWS account and 2 IMAP accounts, it is one of the IMAP accounts > > that does not display. > > > > A basic question, are all the accounts enabled in Edit->Preferences? > (It's possible to accidentally click on the Enabled tick box and the > account disappears from the list.) They're both enabled. > P. > > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
On Sat, 2018-07-07 at 14:15 +, Siv wrote: > I have the same issue with 3 accounts appearing and in the settings but > one not showing in the pane down the left side. This was true under > Mint 18.3 and the older version of Evo. I upgraded to Mint 19 recently > and am now on Evo 3.28.1-2 and the issue is still there. > > -Original Message- > From: Patrick O'Callaghan > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up > Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 10:24:36 +0100 > > On Fri, 2018-07-06 at 19:29 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > > I added two mail servers for a friend (one at yahoo.com, the other at > gmail.com). The one for gmail appears in the left panel. The one for > yahoo does not. Everything in its preferences section looks fine. Any > ideas? > > How about stating which version of Evolution your friend has, and what > kind of accounts these are? The gmail account is imap. It works. The setup wizard chose pop3 for the yahoo account. I pushed the button to check for authentication, and it didn't respond. So I tried imap (and changed the server address to imap.yahoo.com) and it responded quickly. But the account still didn't appear in the left panel. When I push the button to send queued mail and refresh inboxes, it shows both the yahoo and gmail accounts in the progress window. I think the evolution version is fairly old -- it's whatever is bundled with Scientific Linux 6.9. Is there a work-around? > poc > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Mark for deletion?
Evolution on one of my computers is configured so that it puts a strikeout through the message header when it's deleted, instead of instantly moving it to the trash folder. Then it's deleted when I expunge the folder. I can't find the configuration setting for that on my other computers (or indeed on the first one). Where is it? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to edit list of applications to open attachments
On Fri, 2017-06-02 at 21:01 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Fri, 2017-06-02 at 11:52 -0700, W Van Snyder wrote: > > Evolution docs shouldn't say how each desktop environment specifies > > these associations. But it should say "Your desktop environment > > specifies these associations." > > I see. Makes sense! :) > Do you have a specific page (in the recent user docs) in mind where > you'd have expected such info? I'd be happy to add that sentence. In my documentation for Evolution 2.32.3, subclause 2.1.7 "Working with Attachments and HTML Mail" seems like a good place to add a subclause 2.1.7.3 (or maybe 2.1.7.2) "Specifying file associations to open attachments". > andre Thanks, Van ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to edit list of applications to open attachments
On Fri, 2017-06-02 at 07:05 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > > But evolution still doesn't offer mplayer for mp4 attachments. I have the same problem. > > Does the file /usr/share/applications/mplayer.desktop (or wherever > > your distribution puts .desktop files) actually exist on your > > machine? ll /usr/share/kde4/apps/kappfinder/apps/Multimedia/mplayer.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5391 Oct 2 2009 /usr/share/kde4/apps/kappfinder/apps/Multimedia/mplayer.desktop so I can't edit it. After 47 lines of GenericName[*]= with UTF-8 names: Exec=gmplayer %U Icon=video MimeType=video/x-ms-asf;video/mpeg;video/quicktime;video/x-flic;video/x-msvideo; gmplayer is a soft link to mplayer. Notice that video/mp4 isn't in the MimeType list. Does KDE care? Does Evolution care? After about 47 more lines of Name[*]= with UTF-8 names Type=Application X-KDE-Protocols=http > Better - what is the default handler for the MIME-type of the > attachment? > awilliam@beast01:~> xdg-mime query default video/mp4 mplayer > If you save the attachment and attempt to open it from the command > line, what happens? > > awilliam@beast01:~> xdg-open ./Videos/VID_20160903_224422774.mp4 It opens with mplayer. > What is the MIME-type of the attachment? Perhaps the sender is > messing up the attachment? video/mp4 I doubt that every sender is messing up every mp4 attachment. The Evolution I'm using is an antique: 2.34.3. My KDE is 4.3.4. Those are what's supplied with Scientific Linux 6.9. I'm not trusted with the root password for my computer until I take six months of cyber-security training (our organization gets about a million break-in attempts per day). That's not included in my work authorization memo. So I can't install anything newer. My SA is negotiating with the powers-that-be to install Scientific Linux 7.3. When I ask him how to change file association settings he refers me to the Gnome control center. There's no file associations widget, perhaps because gvfs-mime isn't installed, and it isn't available from any Scientific Linux repository so my SA can't install it. There's a file associations widget in the KDE settings panel, and it apparently has convinced xdg-mime that video/mp4's app is mplayer. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to edit list of applications to open attachments
On Fri, 2017-06-02 at 12:21 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Thu, 2017-06-01 at 12:50 -0700, W Van Snyder wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-06-01 at 07:40 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > > > In any case, it would be helpful to have a clue in the evolution > > > > guide. The more detailed the clue, the more useful it is. > > > > > > But it isn't Evolution that controls that - as it is not Internet > > > Explorer in Windows which controls what app handles something > > > downloaded. That is determine by MIME-type to application > > > association; > > > a feature provided by the underlying environment. > > > > Exactly that kind of clue is what's missing from the Evolution > > handbook. > > In recent user help versions (not six year old versions), > https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/default-browser.html > links to the desktop environment help to explain how to change which > web browser to open when clicking on links in Evolution. > > Anything else should exactly NOT be in the Evolution handbook. > Because it should be in desktop environment user docs, not in Evolution > user docs. Evolution docs shouldn't say how each desktop environment specifies these associations. But it should say "Your desktop environment specifies these associations." > Plus I'd expect your distro / sysadmin to set up and/or > document such underlying stuff anyway... I'm sure it's there somewhere. It only took me a week of searching and about ten e-mail messages to find it. > andre ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to edit list of applications to open attachments
On Thu, 2017-06-01 at 13:37 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > gvfs-mime would still be the right app to use, even under KDE. > Evolution is a Gnome application and uses the Gnome libraries. Setting > MIME type using the KDE panel is unlikely to work for Gnome. > Similarly, > under KDE one can use gnome-control-center from the Shell to get to > the > Gnome settings window. Unfortunately, gvfs-mime is apparently not included in Scientific Linux 6.9. There is no file association widget in the gnome settings panel, perhaps because gvfs-mime isn't installed. I'll ask my SA to install it. He usually balks at installing stuff that's not included in Scientific Linux. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to edit list of applications to open attachments
On Thu, 2017-06-01 at 07:40 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > Take a look at xdg-mime (it should have a man page). XDG is what lies > beneath both KDE and GNOME [in GNOME's case you'd use gvfs-mime to > call > xdg-mime]. > > Something like - > > awilliam@beast01:~> xdg-mime query default application/pdf > evince.desktop $ xdb-mime query default video/mp4 mplayer.desktop But evolution still doesn't offer mplayer for mp4 attachments. Maybe the problem is that I'm using evolution 2.32.3. I'm not allowed to have the root password for my computer without taking about six months' of cyber-security training, so I can't update it. I've tried installing applications in my own account, but usually run afoul of version conflicts that require essentially installing all of /lib and /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib in my own account. Then the SA gets angry at me for using up too much file space in the server. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to edit list of applications to open attachments
On Thu, 2017-06-01 at 07:40 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > In any case, it would be helpful to have a clue in the evolution > > guide. The more detailed the clue, the more useful it is. > > But it isn't Evolution that controls that - as it is not Internet > Explorer in Windows which controls what app handles something > downloaded. That is determine by MIME-type to application > association; > a feature provided by the underlying environment. Exactly that kind of clue is what's missing from the Evolution handbook. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] How to edit list of applications to open attachments
I can't find anything in the user manual that explains how to edit the list of applications that could be used to open attachments. I suspect that's actually the purview of whatever window manager is running evolution, but it would be helpful to have references that lead me to details for each one, and some way to find the references. The index page for the evolution manual has almost nothing about reading mail. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Cannot read some folders
I changed the "Show:" menu from "All Messages" to "Important" and back, and the problem cleared. I still have no idea what caused it. On Thu, 2015-09-24 at 02:39 +0200, Ángel González wrote: > > Restarting doesn't repair the problem. Is the search criterion > > stored in some file in ~/.evolution? > > Yes. That would be on $HOME/.config/evolution/mail/state.ini in the > latest version. As you talk about 2.32.3 and a ~/.evolution folder, you > may need to adapt the path. > > Simply moving away the file it will be created, but it's a ini-like > file, so should be easy to edit to strip out just the block for folder. > I would be interested if you can share the wrong piece that caused that > weird behavior. > > Regards > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Cannot read some folders
In Evolution 2.32.3, one of my folders has decided that none of the messages match the search criteria. No matter what I do -- restart, search each category for something I know is there, clear the search criteria... -- it still insists nothing matches, and therefore nothing shows in the headers pane. What can I do to clear this? Please don't say "get a newer version." This version of evolution is what's distributed with Scientific Linux. I'm not allowed to have the root password for my computer, I'm not allowed to install upgrades of applications that are part of the distribution in my own account, and my SA isn't allowed to install anything not included with the standard distribution. Thanks, Van ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Cannot read some folders
On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 21:49 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 09:45 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > > In Evolution 2.32.3, one of my folders has decided that none of the > > messages match the search criteria. No matter what I do -- restart, > > search each category for something I know is there, clear the search > > criteria... -- it still insists nothing matches, and therefore nothing > > shows in the headers pane. > > > > What can I do to clear this? > > Could you describe the actual underlying problem? That you know that > your search criteria should match some messages in that folder? How to > clear the search view to see all messages? Or something else? I can look in that folder using a different mail reader, so I can put things in the search pane that I know are in the message, sender, recipient, subject, etc. For example, search for "sender contains" with "@" finds every message -- except in this one folder. Clearing the search pane using the "clear" icon at the right-hand edge of the search pane, or simply backspacing over the text, doesn't remove the problem. The "clear" item on the "search" menu is grayed-out. Restarting doesn't repair the problem. Is the search criterion stored in some file in ~/.evolution? > andre ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Cannot read some folders
On Wed, 2015-09-23 at 00:31 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > I can look in that folder using a different mail reader, so I can put > > things in the search pane that I know are in the message, sender, > > recipient, subject, etc. For example, search for "sender contains" with > > "@" finds every message -- except in this one folder. > > > > Clearing the search pane using the "clear" icon at the right-hand edge > > of the search pane, or simply backspacing over the text, doesn't remove > > the problem. > > When you clear the search box, can you see all the messages? No. > If not, > is the "Show:" box to the left of the search box set to "All Messages"? Yes. > > P. > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
