Re: [Evolution] Tranfer of accounts
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 08:34 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: rant I should open an issue on Bugzilla that the existence of these two options should be displayed in the largest possible font and pulsing in bright orange. Perhaps with a sound effect of nails being scraped across chalk boards. A pop-up should appear reminding the user of these options every several minutes. /rant These options should be removed. Requiring a separate backup tool for each application is really horrible user design. HORRIBLE! This is email, not an enterprise SQL database. -- Knowledge Is Power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Tranfer of accounts [Scanned]
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 21:18 +1000, Christopher M Bailey wrote: On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 11:44 +0200, Antonio M wrote: [snip] evolution-3.2.3-3 on the old computer with Fedora 16 Evolution 3.4.1 is running on Fedora 17 Hang on, have I got this right? You're running BETA software (Fedora 16 is the latest stable release), did not use the recommended method for transferring data and have cleansed the original system before checking to see if your backups are usable? I'm confident the folks here will be able to help you out, if it is possible. However I think that the lesson to be learnt here is to plain your migrations, especially when beta code is involved. Actually the real problem is with whoever thought a separate backup and restore tool for an email application was a good idea. For more than 20 years a simple backup of all the files in your home directory has been enough to get everything restored. Yet someone, somewhere decided to change that and seems to expect that every user of evolution has looked for a backup option (in the email client? what?). Even when things did happen, such as a change from mbox to maildir, there was a simple tool to run that would do the conversion. Where is that tool for Evolution? And no, installing a complete copy of the older Evolution and all its support libraries (and their libraries, etc.) is not a simple tool. -- Knowledge Is Power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
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On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 10:48 -0600, Zan Lynx wrote: On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 21:18 +1000, Christopher M Bailey wrote: Actually the real problem is with whoever thought a separate backup and restore tool for an email application was a good idea For more than 20 years a simple backup of all the files in your home directory has been enough to get everything restored. That *is* enough. You backup and restore your home directory [not a cherry picked backup] - and it works. I've done it many times. Yet someone, somewhere decided to change that and seems to expect that every user of evolution has looked for a backup option (in the email client? what?). Yep. A great idea for when you just want to backup or transfer the contents managed by that application. Even when things did happen, such as a change from mbox to maildir, there was a simple tool to run that would do the conversion. Where is that tool for Evolution? The tools *is* Evolution. It just couldn't be easier. Evolution will migrate forward from previous versions - to a reasonable degree. And if you explicitly choose to use mbox or maildir - it support that. I just don't see what you are complaining about. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Tranfer of accounts
I am trying to transfer an account from an old computer to a new one. I made the back-up of the complete directory of the user. Then I copied the following files in the new folder.. $HOME/.local/share/evolution $HOME/.config/evolution $HOME/.cache/evolution $HOME/.gconf/apps/evolution But when I start Evolution, I get the account assistant running and I don't see the old account. Where is my mistake??? -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : amontag52 Linux Fedora 16 Verne ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Tranfer of accounts
First, it would help people to give a proper answer if you told us what the versions of Evolution you are talking about On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 10:38 +0200, Antonio M wrote: I am trying to transfer an account from an old computer to a new one. I made the back-up of the complete directory of the user. Then I copied the following files in the new folder.. $HOME/.local/share/evolution $HOME/.config/evolution $HOME/.cache/evolution $HOME/.gconf/apps/evolution Playing with Evolution's (or any other application's) internal data files is never a good idea unless you really, really know what you are doing. But when I start Evolution, I get the account assistant running and I don't see the old account. Where is my mistake??? Use the backup and restore function from within Evolution - i.e. create a backup file in the old Evolution and restore it with the new Evolution. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Tranfer of accounts
2012/5/7 Antonio M antonio.montagn...@gmail.com 2012/5/7 Pete Biggs p...@biggs.org.uk First, it would help people to give a proper answer if you told us what the versions of Evolution you are talking about On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 10:38 +0200, Antonio M wrote: I am trying to transfer an account from an old computer to a new one. I made the back-up of the complete directory of the user. Then I copied the following files in the new folder.. $HOME/.local/share/evolution $HOME/.config/evolution $HOME/.cache/evolution $HOME/.gconf/apps/evolution Playing with Evolution's (or any other application's) internal data files is never a good idea unless you really, really know what you are doing. But when I start Evolution, I get the account assistant running and I don't see the old account. Where is my mistake??? Use the backup and restore function from within Evolution - i.e. create a backup file in the old Evolution and restore it with the new Evolution. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list it should have been easier, but the old PC has been cleaned so I can't use the backup/restore procedure -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : amontag52 Linux Fedora 16 Verne Evolution 3.4.1 -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : amontag52 Linux Fedora 16 Verne ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Tranfer of accounts
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 11:21 +0200, Antonio M wrote: Evolution 3.4.1 Which distro is this? And which version was on the old computer? andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Tranfer of accounts
2012/5/7 Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 11:21 +0200, Antonio M wrote: Evolution 3.4.1 Which distro is this? And which version was on the old computer? andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list evolution-3.2.3-3 http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/16/i386/evolution-3.2.3-3.fc16.i686.rpm on the old computer with Fedora 16 Evolution 3.4.1 is running on Fedora 17 -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : amontag52 Linux Fedora 16 Verne ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Tranfer of accounts [Scanned]
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 11:44 +0200, Antonio M wrote: 2012/5/7 Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 11:21 +0200, Antonio M wrote: Evolution 3.4.1 Which distro is this? And which version was on the old computer? andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list evolution-3.2.3-3 on the old computer with Fedora 16 Evolution 3.4.1 is running on Fedora 17 Hang on, have I got this right? You're running BETA software (Fedora 16 is the latest stable release), did not use the recommended method for transferring data and have cleansed the original system before checking to see if your backups are usable? I'm confident the folks here will be able to help you out, if it is possible. However I think that the lesson to be learnt here is to plain your migrations, especially when beta code is involved. Cheers, Chris -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Tranfer of accounts
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 10:38 +0200, Antonio M wrote: I am trying to transfer an account from an old computer to a new one. I made the back-up of the complete directory of the user. That should work if you *RESTORE THE COMPLETE DIRECTORY* to an empty account. Then I copied the following files in the new folder.. $HOME/.local/share/evolution No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No aside Is the true reason the Open Source desktop is doomed because it has an entrenched user base completely addicted to doing things the hardest and most tedious way possible? /aside rant Does a week pass without someone asking this question and attempting the same inane / insane quest? /rant Step #1 - Old machine: File - Back up Evolution Data Step #2 - Move File from old to new machine Step# 3 - New machine File - Restore Evolution Data rant I should open an issue on Bugzilla that the existence of these two options should be displayed in the largest possible font and pulsing in bright orange. Perhaps with a sound effect of nails being scraped across chalk boards. A pop-up should appear reminding the user of these options every several minutes. /rant signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Tranfer of accounts [Scanned]
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 21:18 +1000, Christopher M Bailey wrote: On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 11:44 +0200, Antonio M wrote: evolution-3.2.3-3 on the old computer with Fedora 16 Evolution 3.4.1 is running on Fedora 17 Hang on, have I got this right? You're running BETA software (Fedora 16 is the latest stable release), did not use the recommended method for transferring data and have cleansed the original system before checking to see if your backups are usable? I'm confident the folks here will be able to help you out, if it is possible. However I think that the lesson to be learnt here is to plain your migrations, especially when beta code is involved. Everything needed to piece together a borked [1] is found at http://library.gnome.org/users/evolution/3.2/data-storage.html.en http://geekubuntu.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/how-to-backup-evolution-mail/ might also be somewhat helpful but is *really* out of date. [1] borked by the user - this is *NOT* Evolution's or GNOME's fault; so no messages with subjects like evolution is not reliable For a sane/correct way to do this - http://www.ghacks.net/2010/05/31/backup-and-restore-evolution/ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1588451 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Tranfer of accounts
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Antonio M antonio.montagn...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to transfer an account from an old computer to a new one. I made the back-up of the complete directory of the user. Then I copied the following files in the new folder.. $HOME/.local/share/evolution $HOME/.config/evolution $HOME/.cache/evolution $HOME/.gconf/apps/evolution But when I start Evolution, I get the account assistant running and I don't see the old account. Where is my mistake??? Just a guess: did you kill gconf ? If gconf is running changes to .gconf/apps/evolution may not be seen ... Just a guess though. P.S.: as someone said earlier, ensure destination dirs are cleaned first. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
