RE: The spam that gets through

2003-07-09 Thread Neil Hobson
Trend InterScan Messaging Security Suite I believe, although I don't
administer our internal systems.  The guys that do happended to mention
that SurfControl was way better at catching spam.  I'll see if I can
find some figures.

Neil

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From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 08 July 2003 21:19
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Conversation: The spam that gets through
Subject: RE: The spam that gets through


What were you using previously, and how many messages enter it from the
Internet in a day?

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.




-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:55 AM Posted To: Exchange
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Subject: RE: The spam that gets through


If it gets past the database of known spam (we use SurfControl), then it
also undergoes a keyword scan.  Sometimes this blocks legitimate mail,
which is a PITA.  I've removed myself from the keyword scanning, as I
was spending more time getting messgaes released than I was dealing with
spam.  It doesn't bother me to delete a few messages.  If it gets past
the keyword scan, then sometimes we evaluate the text, and we add in
specific rules to combat that particular message.  For example, we can't
see much communication involving septic tanks within our normal
day-to-daty activities.  :0)

The manual adding is not very scalable I admit.  But SurfControl's spam
datbase is catching 3x the amount of our previous product.

Neil

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Posted At: 08 July 2003 16:45
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Quick question following a vigourous debate here: How do people out in
list-land handle spam which gets past the spam filters?

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RE: [Exchange2000] Public Folders Restore

2003-07-09 Thread Mike Scott
John,

What about deleted item retention? Even if it wasn't switched on when
the user deleted the folders, putting it on before the restore might
catch the deletion run by the logs.

Just a thought - Something to try.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 July 2003 22:02
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Subject: [Exchange2000] Public Folders Restore

Got a question for everyone on the lists:

If someone deletes a tree of public folders, and I restore the
previous day's backup, then allow the log files to play to get the
public folder database back to consistency; will the deletion re-occur
since that action is contained in the log files?

Exchange 2000 with all SPs
Win2K with SP2 or three (one less than the latest)

Backup and restore with Backup Exec.

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
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RE: The spam that gets through

2003-07-09 Thread Busby, Jacob
Some of our users use the Delete key - yours truly included - but some of them want 
the spam to analysed further and blocked in the future. I guess my question was 
phrased badly, so I'll rephrase it:

How do you handle users who receive spam that want that source of spam blocked on the 
filters? (I'm not speaking from a tehcnical angle of tracing the spam, more of an 
organistional angle)

 Del

  Quick question following a vigourous debate here: How do 
  people out in list-land handle spam which gets past the 
  spam filters?
  

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RE: Error on Outlook 2000

2003-07-09 Thread Tony Hlabse
That's what I figured a corrupt message somewhere? I killed all the rules
but, didn't try the /clean (freebusy) switches only because we shut that
function off for users on Office. But will try it and others anyhow . Thanks
Ed. 


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:32 AM
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There can be a corrupt message that looks just fine to Exchange.

Try running Outlook with some of the /clean* switches--maybe you're seeing a
problem with a reminder.

Try using OWA to delete the corrupt message if there is one and you can
identify it. 

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
One man's Spam is another man's UCE.


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 Have a user that is using Outlook 2000 accessing an Exchange 2000
environment. While just sitting there will pop up with a memory error. Load
that same user on a different machine creat a new profile same thing. I was
thinking of exporting his mail to a pst killing his mailbox then create a
new one. Only one seeing this and no events in the event logs indicating a
problem with the exchange databse. Has anyone run into this before? Is the
action I want to take the correct one?


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RE: Restore Exchange 2000 IS?

2003-07-09 Thread Woodruff, Michael
SP3 


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From: Jeff Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

You're using eseutil from what service pack version of exchange?

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Woodruff,
Michael Posted At: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:00 PM Posted To: Exchange
Discussion List
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Subject: RE: Restore Exchange 2000 IS?

 While running ESEUTIL /P I am seeing this in the log...  (see below)
Hopefully the repair will work and the darn thing will mount. 

Dbtime is larger than database dbtime




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From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Depends on what you need :)  The priv.edb and priv.stm should give you
all mail that has been committed to the databases, but will not give you
mail that has been received since that time.  Also, having the same
server name is not quite as important, but having the same org name and
same Admin Group and Storage Group is what is important.  Having the
same server name should be absolutely fine though.  Since you are not
doing a typical restore though, you will probably have to stop the
Exchange services, then replace the files.  I also wouldn't be surprised
if you may find that you have to run eseutil and/or isinteg to get the
database mounted.  Before running those though, try and re-start the
services and then take note of any errors you receive.  Also, before
running eseutil or isinteg, make sure that you still have your backup
copy of the databases in case something happens to them while running
either of those utilities.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


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From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At:
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Subject: Restore Exchange 2000 IS?


OK, I have a priv.edb and priv.stm from an old backup (just these two
files).  I have built an offline exchange server with the same names and
service packs as outlined by Microsoft.  My question is, can I recover
with just the files or do I need a full Exchange backup from a program
such as Veritas or Windows Backup?  Thanks.

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RE: The spam that gets through

2003-07-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
We still do that seat of the pants. We ask the users to forward the message,
intact, to our postmaster group, and we manually analyze it in a completely
unscientific manner.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:27 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: The spam that gets through
 
 
 Some of our users use the Delete key - yours truly included - 
 but some of them want the spam to analysed further and 
 blocked in the future. I guess my question was phrased badly, 
 so I'll rephrase it:
 
 How do you handle users who receive spam that want that 
 source of spam blocked on the filters? (I'm not speaking from 
 a tehcnical angle of tracing the spam, more of an organistional angle)
 
  Del
 
   Quick question following a vigourous debate here: How do 
   people out in list-land handle spam which gets past the 
   spam filters?
   
 
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RE: The spam that gets through

2003-07-09 Thread Neil Hobson
That all sounds very familiar!  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 09 July 2003 12:39
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Subject: RE: The spam that gets through


We still do that seat of the pants. We ask the users to forward the
message, intact, to our postmaster group, and we manually analyze it in
a completely unscientific manner.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:27 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: The spam that gets through
 
 
 Some of our users use the Delete key - yours truly included - but some

 of them want the spam to analysed further and blocked in the future. I

 guess my question was phrased badly, so I'll rephrase it:
 
 How do you handle users who receive spam that want that source of spam

 blocked on the filters? (I'm not speaking from a tehcnical angle of 
 tracing the spam, more of an organistional angle)
 
  Del
 
   Quick question following a vigourous debate here: How do people 
   out in list-land handle spam which gets past the spam filters?
   
 
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Exchange 2k log reporting

2003-07-09 Thread Mark Condron
All,
 
I would be interested on feedback on what you all use to monitor and
report on Exchange 2000 e-mail usage. I was using Melia for 5.5 but when
we upgraded the Exchange 2000 version was not ready. I am currently
testing Promodag so I would be grateful of any experience of this
package but also any other packages that you guys recommend. I need to
monitor 2 exchange servers in separate administrative groups and would
like to be able to report on a team by team basis, and also report on
public folders
 
TIA 
 
-Mark

Mark Condron 
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RE: Exchange 2k log reporting

2003-07-09 Thread Neil Hobson
Promodag is good, as is MessageStats from Quest (www.quest.com)

Neil

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Posted At: 09 July 2003 13:51
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: Exchange 2k log reporting
Subject: Exchange 2k log reporting


All,
 
I would be interested on feedback on what you all use to monitor and
report on Exchange 2000 e-mail usage. I was using Melia for 5.5 but when
we upgraded the Exchange 2000 version was not ready. I am currently
testing Promodag so I would be grateful of any experience of this
package but also any other packages that you guys recommend. I need to
monitor 2 exchange servers in separate administrative groups and would
like to be able to report on a team by team basis, and also report on
public folders
 
TIA 
 
-Mark

Mark Condron
ICT Manager
 
Tel:  029 2043 1740
Fax:  029 2043 1701
Minicom:029 2043 1702
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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OT - MS Outlook mailing list

2003-07-09 Thread The BOYZ from BHUTAN
Does anyone know of good mailing high traffic mailing list 
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RE: OT - MS Outlook mailing list

2003-07-09 Thread Diane Poremsky
Outlook-users @ yahoogroups is the best...  
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RE: OT - MS Outlook mailing list

2003-07-09 Thread Neil Hobson
The Yahoo Groups Outlook list:

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hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Matt
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on drive where edb's 
are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the databases to perform 
this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and 1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space 
remaining. Store pegs cpu at 100% every 2 days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at increased rate. disabled 
av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 days for the store service 
to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to replace databases with new ones to 
see if they are the problem as per MS. But I can't do this for 2 days or more. Need 
better Ideas.
 
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RE: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Brady, James
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.  

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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:hard drive space

exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on drive where
edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and 1 gb
with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at 100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
 
Thanks
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RE: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Pennell, Ronald B.
Matt, you actually need more than the database size.   Say, 1.2 times.  You can use 
network connected disk space to do the offline defrag.  Might take awhile depending on 
network speed.  Or even attach a larger drive to your system for temp storage.  

Ron

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: hard drive space

exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on drive where edb's 
are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the databases to perform 
this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and 1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space 
remaining. Store pegs cpu at 100% every 2 days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at increased rate. disabled 
av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 days for the store service 
to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to replace databases with new ones to 
see if they are the problem as per MS. But I can't do this for 2 days or more. Need 
better Ideas.

Thanks
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RE: A bit off topic - Multiple apps on 1 server

2003-07-09 Thread Mellott, Bill
I agree totally with Ed...and avoid too many app's on one box 
(I've got boxes with just 1 app that's a pain) 
I recently did have to do such a  thing..(and break my own person rule of
never!)

W2K Svr, (DHCP, F/P, IIS) sp2+sp2postfixes
faxination Device (fax ports back to my Faxsvr)
Surfcontrol Web filter
Trend Server Protect
Trend Office Corp (for local user AV, mng..etc)
APC pwrchute for UPS
VNC

DL380, int RAID, dual 36GB, 1.5GB RAM...

doesn't sound bad does it??? ummwish that was the case...does it finally
run?? Yes..stable? 95% (that's good for all that fluff there), actually Ill
jinx myself...it's just been running..took 3 loadeds to get it just
sobut one app requires I mess with it manually cause it's config
interface doesnt want to run right..pain...

Hey it's an offcie of like 12 people, if it survives and goes to more
people..will I put in another box and divide it up ...you bet! in a heart
beat...
But it will definately depend on the app's and how the play together...

Would I do it from the start for say 30+ people..no way...share some
..yes..totally no.. especially if it's got to communicate with other machine
on the end of some WAN type thingy

2 cents
bill

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From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: A bit off topic - Multiple apps on 1 server


I don't personally like the idea but it's what Small Business Server is all
about, albeit for a smaller office population.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Protecting the world from PSTs and bricked backups.


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Miller, Robert
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

All,

Excuse me for the slightly off-topic inquiry. We are currently rolling out
Exchange 2000 - we have about 10,000 users in several locations - 150-300
users per office on average. We run the Exchange 2000 servers also as Domain
Controllers, with the addition of DNS and DHCP. Everything works just fine,
but now the CTO wants to start doing an Office in a Box concept - where we
load tons of additional apps on this server. Sort of like Small Business
Server - but with additional licenses (more than 50), and not all the apps
are Microsoft. I thought we were being a bit risky having Exchange on the
same server as a DC, DNS, and DHCP. Does anyone have any advice on this? Bad
idea? Terrible idea?

Thanks 

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RE: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Jeff Beckham
1.  You might make sure you have the latest version of store.exe.

2.  Exmerge out the data.  Mount a blank store.  Merge it back in.

3.  Otherwise, contact MS and have them take a user dump when the store is pegged.  
They'll be able to review it and see what is causing the store spike.  Then they will 
probably have you exmerge out the data, mount a blank store, and merge it back in.  ;)

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Posted At: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:34 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: hard drive space
Subject: hard drive space

exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on drive where edb's 
are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the databases to perform 
this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and 1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space 
remaining. Store pegs cpu at 100% every 2 days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at increased rate. disabled 
av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 days for the store service 
to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to replace databases with new ones to 
see if they are the problem as per MS. But I can't do this for 2 days or more. Need 
better Ideas.
 
Thanks
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RE: Way out in left field (Sorry)

2003-07-09 Thread Todd Graham
Are you using an Avaya phone system?  It's really close right now, I
need to make my decision soon, and they are about equal at this point. 

Thanks all for the input! 


Todd
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Way out in left field (Sorry)

Avaya owns what used to be Octel Unified Messenger, which is a really
slick
product.

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:18 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Way out in left field (Sorry)
 
 
 I think Avaya has a solution that gets installed on the 
 Exchange server
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Todd Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:47 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Way out in left field (Sorry)
 
 
 I know this is way off topic but it's hard to find uninterested people
 to
 give an opinion.  I'm about to purchase a VOIP phone system for the
 company and am curious if anyone is either using Cisco or Avaya's
 solution
 and if so what is the effect on the Exchange server?  Cisco closely
 integrates and Avaya just has a program that sits in Outlook and
 integrates like that. Also does anyone have an opinion on which is
 better?
  (we've ruled out everyone else, I'm a one man IT shop for a 
 company of
 98
 employee's)
 
 Thank you, and sorry for this being s off topic.
 
 Todd
 
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RE: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Martin Blackstone
What Exchange AV package are you using? NAI, CA? 

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: hard drive space

exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on drive where
edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and 1 gb
with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at 100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
 
Thanks
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RE: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
That's not entirely true.

What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current database +
10%.

The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from the old
file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 
 You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.  
 
  -Original Message-
 From: Matt
 Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  hard drive space
 
 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain 
 on drive where
 edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the
 databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 
 gb and 1 gb
 with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at 
 100% every 2
 days. A reboot takes
 care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at 
 increased
 rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
 Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 
 days for the store
 service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to 
 replace databases
 with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I 
 can't do this
 for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
  
 Thanks
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RE: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Martin Blackstone
Then smokes a cigarette 

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space

That's not entirely true.

What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current database +
10%.

The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from the old
file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 
 You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.  
 
  -Original Message-
 From: Matt
 Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  hard drive space
 
 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain 
 on drive where
 edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the
 databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 
 gb and 1 gb
 with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at 
 100% every 2
 days. A reboot takes
 care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at 
 increased
 rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
 Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 
 days for the store
 service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to 
 replace databases
 with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I 
 can't do this
 for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
  
 Thanks
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RE: Way out in left field (Sorry)

2003-07-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
We're using a tradtional Avaya PBX, although we're doing some VOIP stuff
with it. We're slowly looking at transitioning to significant amounts of
VOIP over the next 2-3 years though.

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Todd Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:12 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Way out in left field (Sorry)
 
 
 Are you using an Avaya phone system?  It's really close right now, I
 need to make my decision soon, and they are about equal at 
 this point. 
 
 Thanks all for the input! 
 
 
 Todd
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:03 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Way out in left field (Sorry)
 
 Avaya owns what used to be Octel Unified Messenger, which is a really
 slick
 product.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:18 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Way out in left field (Sorry)
  
  
  I think Avaya has a solution that gets installed on the 
  Exchange server
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Todd Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:47 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Way out in left field (Sorry)
  
  
  I know this is way off topic but it's hard to find 
 uninterested people
  to
  give an opinion.  I'm about to purchase a VOIP phone system for the
  company and am curious if anyone is either using Cisco or Avaya's
  solution
  and if so what is the effect on the Exchange server?  Cisco closely
  integrates and Avaya just has a program that sits in Outlook and
  integrates like that. Also does anyone have an opinion on which is
  better?
   (we've ruled out everyone else, I'm a one man IT shop for a 
  company of
  98
  employee's)
  
  Thank you, and sorry for this being s off topic.
  
  Todd
  
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RE: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Dickenson, Steven
I was wondering what that smell was last time I ran a defrag...

Steven
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The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space


Then smokes a cigarette 

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space

That's not entirely true.

What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current database +
10%.

The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from the old
file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 
 You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.  
 
  -Original Message-
 From: Matt
 Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  hard drive space
 
 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain 
 on drive where
 edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the
 databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 
 gb and 1 gb
 with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at 
 100% every 2
 days. A reboot takes
 care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at 
 increased
 rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
 Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 
 days for the store
 service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to 
 replace databases
 with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I 
 can't do this
 for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
  
 Thanks
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RE: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?

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Sr. Systems Administrator
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 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 
 Then smokes a cigarette 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 That's not entirely true.
 
 What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current 
 database +
 10%.
 
 The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data 
 from the old
 file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: hard drive space
  
  
  You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.  
  
   -Original Message-
  From:   Matt
  Sent:   Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:hard drive space
  
  exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain 
  on drive where
  edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space 
 equal to the
  databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 
  gb and 1 gb
  with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at 
  100% every 2
  days. A reboot takes
  care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at 
  increased
  rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
  Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 
  days for the store
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eseutil defrag inconsistency

2003-07-09 Thread Shotton Jolyon
We have recently deleted a large (700+) number of accounts and mailboxes.

It has been decided that defragmenting the store would be useful.

We have tested the procedure on a disaster recovery server.  Twice.

The two restored stores were about a week apart in date and no drastic
changes were made in the meantime.

The first defrag completed in around 6 hours and reduced priv.edb from 60GB
to 39GB

The second defrag completed in around 9 hours and reduced priv.edb from 60GB
to 57GB

Previous tests of eseutil on other servers have apparently revealed
similarly inconsistent results.

Does anyone have a good idea about what is going on?

If we can recover 21GB it would be well worth the trouble but if it is
nearer 3 then the risk and disruption would make it a pointless task.





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RE: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Gonzalez, Alex
Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?


-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
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Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?

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 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 
 Then smokes a cigarette 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 That's not entirely true.
 
 What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current 
 database +
 10%.
 
 The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data 
 from the old
 file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: hard drive space
  
  
  You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.  
  
   -Original Message-
  From:   Matt
  Sent:   Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:hard drive space
  
  exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain 
  on drive where
  edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space 
 equal to the
  databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 
  gb and 1 gb
  with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at 
  100% every 2
  days. A reboot takes
  care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at 
  increased
  rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
  Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 
  days for the store
  service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to 
  replace databases
  with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I 
  can't do this
  for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
   
  Thanks
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RE: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Henderson Richard
Yes

-Original Message-
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Sent: 09 July 2003 15:59
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space


Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
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 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 
 Then smokes a cigarette
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 That's not entirely true.
 
 What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current
 database +
 10%.
 
 The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data
 from the old
 file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: hard drive space
  
  
  You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
  
   -Original Message-
  From:   Matt
  Sent:   Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:hard drive space
  
  exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain
  on drive where
  edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space 
 equal to the
  databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6
  gb and 1 gb
  with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at 
  100% every 2
  days. A reboot takes
  care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at 
  increased
  rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
  Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 
  days for the store
  service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to 
  replace databases
  with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I 
  can't do this
  for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
   
  Thanks
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RE: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Martin Blackstone
Before of course. Who the hell smokes in bed? 

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space

Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?

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 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 
 Then smokes a cigarette 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 That's not entirely true.
 
 What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current 
 database +
 10%.
 
 The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data 
 from the old
 file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: hard drive space
  
  
  You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.  
  
   -Original Message-
  From:   Matt
  Sent:   Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:hard drive space
  
  exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain 
  on drive where
  edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space 
 equal to the
  databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 
  gb and 1 gb
  with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at 
  100% every 2
  days. A reboot takes
  care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at 
  increased
  rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
  Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 
  days for the store
  service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to 
  replace databases
  with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I 
  can't do this
  for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
   
  Thanks
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RE: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Martin Blackstone
Yes, regardless of your Exch version. 

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space

Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 
 Then smokes a cigarette 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 That's not entirely true.
 
 What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current 
 database +
 10%.
 
 The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data 
 from the old
 file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: hard drive space
  
  
  You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.  
  
   -Original Message-
  From:   Matt
  Sent:   Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:hard drive space
  
  exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain 
  on drive where
  edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space 
 equal to the
  databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 
  gb and 1 gb
  with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at 
  100% every 2
  days. A reboot takes
  care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at 
  increased
  rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
  Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 
  days for the store
  service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to 
  replace databases
  with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I 
  can't do this
  for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
   
  Thanks
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RE: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Gonzalez, Alex
Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Yes, regardless of your Exch version. 

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space

Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 
 Then smokes a cigarette 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 That's not entirely true.
 
 What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current 
 database +
 10%.
 
 The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data 
 from the old
 file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: hard drive space
  
  
  You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.  
  
   -Original Message-
  From:   Matt
  Sent:   Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:hard drive space
  
  exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain 
  on drive where
  edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space 
 equal to the
  databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 
  gb and 1 gb
  with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at 
  100% every 2
  days. A reboot takes
  care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at 
  increased
  rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
  Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 
  days for the store
  service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to 
  replace databases
  with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I 
  can't do this
  for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
   
  Thanks
  .+--xm
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RE: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Henderson Richard
Redirect the temp file

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 July 2003 16:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space


Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?


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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Yes, regardless of your Exch version. 

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space

Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 
 Then smokes a cigarette
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 That's not entirely true.
 
 What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current
 database +
 10%.
 
 The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data
 from the old
 file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: hard drive space
  
  
  You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
  
   -Original Message-
  From:   Matt
  Sent:   Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:hard drive space
  
  exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain
  on drive where
  edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space 
 equal to the
  databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6
  gb and 1 gb
  with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at 
  100% every 2
  days. A reboot takes
  care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at 
  increased
  rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
  Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 
  days for the store
  service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to 
  replace databases
  with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I 
  can't do this
  for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
   
  Thanks
  .+--xm
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RE: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Martin Blackstone
There are command switches that enable you to redirect it to another drive.
You can also redirect it to a mapped drive on another box. This will of
course affect the performance of the defrag though. 

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space

Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Yes, regardless of your Exch version. 

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space

Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 
 Then smokes a cigarette 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 That's not entirely true.
 
 What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current 
 database +
 10%.
 
 The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data 
 from the old
 file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: hard drive space
  
  
  You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.  
  
   -Original Message-
  From:   Matt
  Sent:   Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:hard drive space
  
  exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain 
  on drive where
  edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space 
 equal to the
  databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 
  gb and 1 gb
  with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at 
  100% every 2
  days. A reboot takes
  care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at 
  increased
  rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
  Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 
  days for the store
  service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to 
  replace databases
  with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I 
  can't do this
  for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
   
  Thanks
  .+--xm
  ,)?r(?\?y'
  i??)?l+-r?rW{jx?m^zx%?S?^jAZ? 2?G(L\x?fyb?)
  )
  
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Re: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Andy David
You can also run eseutil locally on a non-exchange server that has space on
any databases copied over from the prod server.

- Original Message - 
From: Henderson Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: hard drive space


Redirect the temp file

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 July 2003 16:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space


Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Yes, regardless of your Exch version.

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space

Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space


 Then smokes a cigarette

 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space

 That's not entirely true.

 What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current
 database +
 10%.

 The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data
 from the old
 file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.

 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.


  -Original Message-
  From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 
  You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
 
   -Original Message-
  From: Matt
  Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: hard drive space
 
  exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain
  on drive where
  edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
 equal to the
  databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6
  gb and 1 gb
  with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
  100% every 2
  days. A reboot takes
  care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
  increased
  rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
  Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
  days for the store
  service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
  replace databases
  with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
  can't do this
  for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
 
  Thanks
  .+--xm
  ,)?r(?\?y'
  i??)?l+-r?rW{jx?m^zx%?S ?^jAZ? 2?G(L\x?fyb?)
  )
 
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RE: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Henderson Richard
Not sure,  Martins answer covered what I have done in the past. It is  a jet
direct utility so as long as you have the .edb  .stm files you may be able
to.  Anyone know?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 July 2003 16:15
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: hard drive space


You can also run eseutil locally on a non-exchange server that has space on
any databases copied over from the prod server.

- Original Message - 
From: Henderson Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: hard drive space


Redirect the temp file

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 July 2003 16:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space


Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Yes, regardless of your Exch version.

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space

Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space


 Then smokes a cigarette

 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space

 That's not entirely true.

 What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current database 
 + 10%.

 The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from the 
 old file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.

 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.


  -Original Message-
  From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 
  You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
 
   -Original Message-
  From: Matt
  Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: hard drive space
 
  exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on 
  drive where edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
 equal to the
  databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and 
  1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
  100% every 2
  days. A reboot takes
  care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
  increased
  rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
  Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
  days for the store
  service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
  replace databases
  with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
  can't do this
  for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
 
  Thanks
  .+--xm
  ,)?r(?\?y'
  i??)?l+-r?rW{jx?m^zx%?S ?^jAZ? 2?G(L\x?fyb?)
  )
 
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RE: hard drive space - OT Story

2003-07-09 Thread Bob Sadler
Just wanted to pass on this little tale of mine:

A while back, my boss in his infinite wisdom, decided to install some
software for his APC Backup Units on the Exchange/Web server.

While I frown on him installing anything more on this machine, like I
said, he's the boss.  Today though, when I came into work, he asks me,
What is that pbeserver.exe process, it's eating up CPU time.  I said,
I don't know, will look into it.

Well, it turns out that pbeserver.exe is the service that runs the APC
software, and apparently it was stuck in an infinite loop.  Not only
that, but it's data file had grown to 8.01GB.  Now, the only thing that
saved us on not having exchange crash was that my boss accidentally
installed this software on the Web share instead of where he usually
likes to install programs, the Exchange share.

So, the moral of this story is, for those of you that have complete
control over your boxes, don't install anything that isn't priority #1
necessary.  For those of you that have bosses like mine, well, try and
teach them the best you can :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

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http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: hard drive space


You can also run eseutil locally on a non-exchange server that has space
on any databases copied over from the prod server.

- Original Message - 
From: Henderson Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: hard drive space


Redirect the temp file

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 July 2003 16:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space


Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Yes, regardless of your Exch version.

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space

Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space


 Then smokes a cigarette

 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space

 That's not entirely true.

 What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current database

 + 10%.

 The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from the

 old file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.

 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.


  -Original Message-
  From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 
  You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
 
   -Original Message-
  From: Matt
  Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: hard drive space
 
  exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on 
  drive where edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
 equal to the
  databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and

  1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
  100% every 2
  days. A reboot takes
  care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
  increased
  rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
  Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
  days for the store
  service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
  replace databases
  with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
  can't do this
  for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
 
  Thanks
  .+--xm
  ,)?r(?\?y'
  i??)?l+-r?rW{jx?m^zx%?S ?^jAZ? 2?G(L\x?fyb?)
  )
 
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Re: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Andy David
Not sure about what?
If you can do it?
Technet article: 244525


- Original Message - 
From: Henderson Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: hard drive space


 Not sure,  Martins answer covered what I have done in the past. It is  a
jet
 direct utility so as long as you have the .edb  .stm files you may be
able
 to.  Anyone know?

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 July 2003 16:15
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: hard drive space


 You can also run eseutil locally on a non-exchange server that has space
on
 any databases copied over from the prod server.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Henderson Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:09 AM
 Subject: RE: hard drive space


 Redirect the temp file

 -Original Message-
 From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 July 2003 16:09
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space


 Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?


 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 Yes, regardless of your Exch version.

 -Original Message-
 From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space

 Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?


 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?

 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.


  -Original Message-
  From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 
  Then smokes a cigarette
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
  That's not entirely true.
 
  What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current database
  + 10%.
 
  The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from the
  old file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
 
  --
  Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
  Sr. Systems Administrator
  Inovis Inc.
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: hard drive space
  
  
   You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
  
-Original Message-
   From: Matt
   Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: hard drive space
  
   exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on
   drive where edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
  equal to the
   databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and
   1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
   100% every 2
   days. A reboot takes
   care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
   increased
   rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
   Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
   days for the store
   service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
   replace databases
   with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
   can't do this
   for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
  
   Thanks
   .+--xm
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RE: hard drive space - OT Story

2003-07-09 Thread Christopher Hummert
My boss doesn't know the admin password. Things are safer that way,
though if I was to die or something like that he has a way to get the
password



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space - OT Story


Just wanted to pass on this little tale of mine:

A while back, my boss in his infinite wisdom, decided to install some
software for his APC Backup Units on the Exchange/Web server.

While I frown on him installing anything more on this machine, like I
said, he's the boss.  Today though, when I came into work, he asks me,
What is that pbeserver.exe process, it's eating up CPU time.  I said,
I don't know, will look into it.

Well, it turns out that pbeserver.exe is the service that runs the APC
software, and apparently it was stuck in an infinite loop.  Not only
that, but it's data file had grown to 8.01GB.  Now, the only thing that
saved us on not having exchange crash was that my boss accidentally
installed this software on the Web share instead of where he usually
likes to install programs, the Exchange share.

So, the moral of this story is, for those of you that have complete
control over your boxes, don't install anything that isn't priority #1
necessary.  For those of you that have bosses like mine, well, try and
teach them the best you can :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

Get a Life!  Get TWO!  Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: hard drive space


You can also run eseutil locally on a non-exchange server that has space
on any databases copied over from the prod server.

- Original Message - 
From: Henderson Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: hard drive space


Redirect the temp file

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 July 2003 16:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space


Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Yes, regardless of your Exch version.

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space

Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space


 Then smokes a cigarette

 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space

 That's not entirely true.

 What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current database

 + 10%.

 The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from the

 old file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.

 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.


  -Original Message-
  From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 
  You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
 
   -Original Message-
  From: Matt
  Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: hard drive space
 
  exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on
  drive where edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
 equal to the
  databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and

  1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at 
  100% every 2 days. A reboot takes
  care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
  increased
  rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
  Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
  days for the store
  service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
  replace databases
  with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
  can't do this
  for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
 
  Thanks
  .+--xm
  

RE: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Henderson Richard
Well that answers that, the answer is yes. 

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 July 2003 16:24
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: hard drive space


Not sure about what?
If you can do it?
Technet article: 244525


- Original Message - 
From: Henderson Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: hard drive space


 Not sure,  Martins answer covered what I have done in the past. It is  
 a
jet
 direct utility so as long as you have the .edb  .stm files you may be
able
 to.  Anyone know?

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 July 2003 16:15
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: hard drive space


 You can also run eseutil locally on a non-exchange server that has 
 space
on
 any databases copied over from the prod server.

 - Original Message -
 From: Henderson Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:09 AM
 Subject: RE: hard drive space


 Redirect the temp file

 -Original Message-
 From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 July 2003 16:09
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space


 Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?


 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 Yes, regardless of your Exch version.

 -Original Message-
 From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: hard drive space

 Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?


 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?

 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.


  -Original Message-
  From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
 
  Then smokes a cigarette
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: hard drive space
 
  That's not entirely true.
 
  What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current 
  database
  + 10%.
 
  The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from 
  the old file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the 
  new one.
 
  --
  Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
  Sr. Systems Administrator
  Inovis Inc.
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: hard drive space
  
  
   You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
  
-Original Message-
   From: Matt
   Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: hard drive space
  
   exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on 
   drive where edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need 
   space
  equal to the
   databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 gb 
   and 1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs 
   cpu at 100% every 2 days. A reboot takes
   care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
   increased
   rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
   Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
   days for the store
   service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
   replace databases
   with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
   can't do this
   for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
  
   Thanks
   .+--xm
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RE: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Matt
Ok got the go ahead to add 2 drives. I'll add the drives mirror and then run 5.5 
optimization to move to new drives.
I had just installed exchange svp 4, I would have thought I had already rec'd latest 
ver of store!! Will check. The system was running CA av but I stopped all the services 
for CA. Store still pegged.

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space


1.  You might make sure you have the latest version of store.exe.

2.  Exmerge out the data.  Mount a blank store.  Merge it back in.

3.  Otherwise, contact MS and have them take a user dump when the store is pegged.  
They'll be able to review it and see what is causing the store spike.  Then they will 
probably have you exmerge out the data, mount a blank store, and merge it back in.  ;)

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Posted At: 
Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:34 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: hard drive space
Subject: hard drive space

exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on drive where edb's 
are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the databases to perform 
this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and 1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space 
remaining. Store pegs cpu at 100% every 2 days. A reboot takes care of cpu for the 
next 2 days. Databases are not growing at increased rate. disabled av sw. Big problem. 
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 days for the store service 
to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to replace databases with new ones to 
see if they are the problem as per MS. But I can't do this for 2 days or more. Need 
better Ideas.
 
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RE: [Exchange2000] Public Folders Restore

2003-07-09 Thread John Matteson
The public folder was deleted through the ESM utility, not via Outlook.

It looks like I'll be building a recovery server, air-gapped from the
production network and getting some practical experience doing the
restore to an offline server.

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.




-Original Message-
From: Mike Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:49 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: [Exchange2000] Public Folders Restore
Subject: RE: [Exchange2000] Public Folders Restore


John,

What about deleted item retention? Even if it wasn't switched on when
the user deleted the folders, putting it on before the restore might
catch the deletion run by the logs.

Just a thought - Something to try.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 July 2003 22:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Exchange Discussions
Subject: [Exchange2000] Public Folders Restore

Got a question for everyone on the lists:

If someone deletes a tree of public folders, and I restore the
previous day's backup, then allow the log files to play to get the
public folder database back to consistency; will the deletion re-occur
since that action is contained in the log files?

Exchange 2000 with all SPs
Win2K with SP2 or three (one less than the latest)

Backup and restore with Backup Exec.

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Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
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RE: [Exchange2000] Public Folders Restore

2003-07-09 Thread Mike Scott
Ah, I guess it's a restore then.
Sounds like an ideal job for the person that used ESM to delete the
folders!

Mike

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 July 2003 17:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: [Exchange2000] Public Folders Restore

The public folder was deleted through the ESM utility, not via Outlook.

It looks like I'll be building a recovery server, air-gapped from the
production network and getting some practical experience doing the
restore to an offline server.

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.




-Original Message-
From: Mike Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:49 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: [Exchange2000] Public Folders Restore
Subject: RE: [Exchange2000] Public Folders Restore


John,

What about deleted item retention? Even if it wasn't switched on when
the user deleted the folders, putting it on before the restore might
catch the deletion run by the logs.

Just a thought - Something to try.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 July 2003 22:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Exchange Discussions
Subject: [Exchange2000] Public Folders Restore

Got a question for everyone on the lists:

If someone deletes a tree of public folders, and I restore the
previous day's backup, then allow the log files to play to get the
public folder database back to consistency; will the deletion re-occur
since that action is contained in the log files?

Exchange 2000 with all SPs
Win2K with SP2 or three (one less than the latest)

Backup and restore with Backup Exec.

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(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.





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W2KSP4 v. Exchange

2003-07-09 Thread Dflorea
I put SP4 on my W2K/E2K Exchange box last night, and it seems to have
broken some functionality, remote users who connect via VPN are unable
to connect, and some users cannot view HTML messages.  Anyone come
across similar behavior?

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RE: [Exchange2000] Public Folders Restore

2003-07-09 Thread John Matteson
sheepishly raises hand

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.




-Original Message-
From: Mike Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:13 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: [Exchange2000] Public Folders Restore
Subject: RE: [Exchange2000] Public Folders Restore


Ah, I guess it's a restore then.
Sounds like an ideal job for the person that used ESM to delete the
folders!

Mike

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 July 2003 17:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: [Exchange2000] Public Folders Restore

The public folder was deleted through the ESM utility, not via Outlook.

It looks like I'll be building a recovery server, air-gapped from the
production network and getting some practical experience doing the
restore to an offline server.

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.




-Original Message-
From: Mike Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:49 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: [Exchange2000] Public Folders Restore
Subject: RE: [Exchange2000] Public Folders Restore


John,

What about deleted item retention? Even if it wasn't switched on when
the user deleted the folders, putting it on before the restore might
catch the deletion run by the logs.

Just a thought - Something to try.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 July 2003 22:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Exchange Discussions
Subject: [Exchange2000] Public Folders Restore

Got a question for everyone on the lists:

If someone deletes a tree of public folders, and I restore the
previous day's backup, then allow the log files to play to get the
public folder database back to consistency; will the deletion re-occur
since that action is contained in the log files?

Exchange 2000 with all SPs
Win2K with SP2 or three (one less than the latest)

Backup and restore with Backup Exec.

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Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
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RE: W2KSP4 v. Exchange

2003-07-09 Thread Ward, Stuart
reapply exchange sp?

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I put SP4 on my W2K/E2K Exchange box last night, and it seems to have
broken some functionality, remote users who connect via VPN are unable
to connect, and some users cannot view HTML messages.  Anyone come
across similar behavior?

David


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Outlook freezes on Public Folders

2003-07-09 Thread bmcguire
I have one user whos Outlook 2000 will freeze as soon as she clicks on the
public folders.  Exchange 2000.  She has been able to use public folders
until yesterday.  This happens on whatever pc she uses (no roaming
profiles).  I created a new test user using the copy option in
ActiveDirectory Computers and users.  The copied user can access public
folders, so I know it is not a permissions issue.  I am planning on
exporting all her mail to a pst.  deleting her account then recreating it.
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Whitepaper on Microsoft's Exchange 2003 installation

2003-07-09 Thread John Matteson
Does anyone have a link to a whitepaper or other document that explains
Microsoft's reputed 8 Node cluster installation of Exchange 2003?

We are looking at methods of increasing availability to users and this
is something my boss is interested in.

Thanks.

John Matteson
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Re: Whitepaper on Microsoft's Exchange 2003 installation

2003-07-09 Thread Andy David
Not sure if its 8 nodes, but you can start here and look around:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/support/exch2000/exchangelib.asp
Dont be fooled by the exch2000 reference in the link.



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bridgehead/smtp best practices?

2003-07-09 Thread Steve B
I seem to be involved in a bit of philosophical debate and want to get
opinions from the field on this.

Basically, I have some service mailboxes that I would prefer not to run
on regular mailbox servers. These particular mailboxes do not hold any
email, they are simply needed for the cirictal operation of exchange
dependant third party services (like a peice of monitoring software that
needs its own mailbox). They pose no risk to any server and do not need
special attention. I feel better if they reside on infrastructure servers
such as bridgeheads or smtp gateways since these servers tend to have less
problems than regular mailbox servers do (as far as is's stopping or
mailbox servers needing to be rebooted more often and then large
transaction logs replaying that contribute to a longer down time for these
services that rely on the mailbox).

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Public folders in Exchange Server 2003

2003-07-09 Thread Sharma, Shshank
Am wondering if any of you have encountered an issue like this.
I am trying to programmatically insert documents into the Exchange Public
Folder tree (on Exchange 2003 Server), using VBA (on the Microsoft Outlook
2003 Beta client version 11.4920.2920). The objective is to build a Document
Management System.

I can succesfully create the directory heirarchy on the server and post
documents as attachments, but (sometimes, I wish I knew when) the client
hangs, and I cannot open the Public Folder store itself. At other times, I
am able to navigate the folders and open the documents.

Restarting the server hasn't helped. I even reinstalled the Exchange Server,
but that didn't change anything. I'm kind of clueless about this behavior,
and will appreciate any help/pointers-to-help.

Thanks
-Shshank Sharma

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Exchange 5.5 to 2000 Migration

2003-07-09 Thread Sandhya Pai
Hello everyone,

Currently we are on a single domain Nt4 and Exchange 5.5 system.  We will be
merging with the University Exchange 2000 system.  The account names of the
users will be automatically created and will be different from what we have.

My question is, are there any migration tools that can help us with moving
our exchange mailboxes directly to 2000 without loosing all the calendar
entries and username identity.  Basically I'd like to map the usernames from
old to new and use move mailbox wizard.  If there are none (or too
expensive) we will just exmerge to pst and restore the pst.  Our users will
not be too happy with this option. I heard that there are many 3rd party
tools that can help us with this.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Sandhya Pai
Manager of Server and Network Services
School of Business
University of Connecticut

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Re: bridgehead/smtp best practices?

2003-07-09 Thread Andy David
I rarely reboot mail servers.
That said, if your Exch Server is having problems, those Exch dependent
service mailboxes arent going to be doing too much anyway are they?

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From: Steve B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:37 PM
Subject: bridgehead/smtp best practices?


 I seem to be involved in a bit of philosophical debate and want to get
 opinions from the field on this.

 Basically, I have some service mailboxes that I would prefer not to run
 on regular mailbox servers. These particular mailboxes do not hold any
 email, they are simply needed for the cirictal operation of exchange
 dependant third party services (like a peice of monitoring software that
 needs its own mailbox). They pose no risk to any server and do not need
 special attention. I feel better if they reside on infrastructure servers
 such as bridgeheads or smtp gateways since these servers tend to have less
 problems than regular mailbox servers do (as far as is's stopping or
 mailbox servers needing to be rebooted more often and then large
 transaction logs replaying that contribute to a longer down time for these
 services that rely on the mailbox).

 What do you guys/gals feel about this?

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AutoAccept Script

2003-07-09 Thread Bailey, Matthew
Does anybody have any experience with the AutoAccept Script?

I am having a weird problem.  I have about 12 conference rooms setup as
resources.  5 of the 12 conference rooms return confirmations when the
conference room is booked as a resources.  The other 7 do not but will
work if you add them as an attendee.  I have looked for differences in
both AD and in Outlook but can't seem to find why one conference room
works while the others don't.  They appear to be setup identically.
(Note: I didn't set them up originally)

The conference rooms that are working show the booking in the Trace
folder and in the calendar.  The conference rooms that aren't working
show no traces but the appointment is added to the calendar.

Anybody have a clue why this would happen?  Or where to start looking?

Thanks,

- Matt

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RE: AutoAccept Script

2003-07-09 Thread Bailey, Matthew
Sorry, it is an Exchange 2000 server will all the latest updates and the
latest version of the AutoAccept script.

- Matt

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-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Matthew 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AutoAccept Script


Does anybody have any experience with the AutoAccept Script?

I am having a weird problem.  I have about 12 conference rooms setup as
resources.  5 of the 12 conference rooms return confirmations when the
conference room is booked as a resources.  The other 7 do not but will
work if you add them as an attendee.  I have looked for differences in
both AD and in Outlook but can't seem to find why one conference room
works while the others don't.  They appear to be setup identically.
(Note: I didn't set them up originally)

The conference rooms that are working show the booking in the Trace
folder and in the calendar.  The conference rooms that aren't working
show no traces but the appointment is added to the calendar.

Anybody have a clue why this would happen?  Or where to start looking?

Thanks,

- Matt

Matthew Bailey
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RE: AutoAccept Script

2003-07-09 Thread Chris Scharff
Is this Robert Strong's script? It's never really been a supported
script and is even less so under E2K.[1] There are a couple of
alternatives for E2K... I'm going to install ERM for my users
(http://www.swinc.com/erm/) during our next outage window.

[1] Are all of the conference rooms on the same server?

-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 1:28 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: AutoAccept Script
Subject: AutoAccept Script


Does anybody have any experience with the AutoAccept Script?

I am having a weird problem.  I have about 12 conference rooms setup as
resources.  5 of the 12 conference rooms return confirmations when the
conference room is booked as a resources.  The other 7 do not but will
work if you add them as an attendee.  I have looked for differences in
both AD and in Outlook but can't seem to find why one conference room
works while the others don't.  They appear to be setup identically.
(Note: I didn't set them up originally)

The conference rooms that are working show the booking in the Trace
folder and in the calendar.  The conference rooms that aren't working
show no traces but the appointment is added to the calendar.

Anybody have a clue why this would happen?  Or where to start looking?

Thanks,

- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
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Fax: 602.294.7486


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user limits for Outlook 2000

2003-07-09 Thread Tony Hlabse
I have been looking and have not found the answer. Does anybody remember the 
amount of users allowed for Outlook 2000 Personal Distribution lists running 
in an Exchnage 2000 environment. You can change it in Exchnage but that 
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RE: Whitepaper on Microsoft's Exchange 2003 installation

2003-07-09 Thread John Matteson
Thanks.

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.




-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:58 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Whitepaper on Microsoft's Exchange 2003 installation
Subject: Re: Whitepaper on Microsoft's Exchange 2003 installation


Not sure if its 8 nodes, but you can start here and look around:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/support/exch2000/exchang
elib.asp
Dont be fooled by the exch2000 reference in the link.



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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:53 PM
Subject: Whitepaper on Microsoft's Exchange 2003 installation


Does anyone have a link to a whitepaper or other document that explains
Microsoft's reputed 8 Node cluster installation of Exchange 2003?

We are looking at methods of increasing availability to users and this
is something my boss is interested in.

Thanks.

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.




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Re: user limits for Outlook 2000

2003-07-09 Thread Tony Hlabse
Found what I was looking for. See link
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb%3ben-us%3b238569
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Subject: user limits for Outlook 2000
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 15:26:57 -0400
I have been looking and have not found the answer. Does anybody remember the 
amount of users allowed for Outlook 2000 Personal Distribution lists running 
in an Exchnage 2000 environment. You can change it in Exchnage but that 
doesn't affect the personal DL or does it.

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RE: user limits for Outlook 2000

2003-07-09 Thread Martin Blackstone
Approx 150 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: user limits for Outlook 2000


I have been looking and have not found the answer. Does anybody remember the

amount of users allowed for Outlook 2000 Personal Distribution lists running

in an Exchnage 2000 environment. You can change it in Exchnage but that 
doesn't affect the personal DL or does it.

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RE: AutoAccept Script

2003-07-09 Thread Bailey, Matthew
It is the script located referenced here:
http://autoaccept-sink.sourceforge.net/

All the conference rooms are on one server.  Thanks to Martin Tuip, I
was able to find my problem on the known issues list.

If an Outlook client has a resource mailbox open and attempts to
automatically process an incoming item then it will cause the sink to
fail due to the fact that Outlook changes the item out from under the
sink.

I know at minimum 3 of the 7 conference rooms are opened as a second
mailbox on various Admin Assist. Desktops.

I am going to evaluate ERM as an alternate soluton.  Based on your
comments, it looks like the server need to be reboot to install ERM?

Thanks,

- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
Voice: 602.631.7486
Fax: 602.294.7486



-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AutoAccept Script


Is this Robert Strong's script? It's never really been a supported
script and is even less so under E2K.[1] There are a couple of
alternatives for E2K... I'm going to install ERM for my users
(http://www.swinc.com/erm/) during our next outage window.

[1] Are all of the conference rooms on the same server?

-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 1:28 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: AutoAccept Script
Subject: AutoAccept Script


Does anybody have any experience with the AutoAccept Script?

I am having a weird problem.  I have about 12 conference rooms setup as
resources.  5 of the 12 conference rooms return confirmations when the
conference room is booked as a resources.  The other 7 do not but will
work if you add them as an attendee.  I have looked for differences in
both AD and in Outlook but can't seem to find why one conference room
works while the others don't.  They appear to be setup identically.
(Note: I didn't set them up originally)

The conference rooms that are working show the booking in the Trace
folder and in the calendar.  The conference rooms that aren't working
show no traces but the appointment is added to the calendar.

Anybody have a clue why this would happen?  Or where to start looking?

Thanks,

- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
Voice: 602.631.7486
Fax: 602.294.7486


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RE: AutoAccept Script

2003-07-09 Thread Chris Scharff
I don't believe it needs a reboot, but I think some services do need to
be stopped/started (been a while since I tested it in my lab, but I'll
be doing more shortly before we actually install). I tend to do all
software updates during an outage window if at all possible just because
one never knows when something simple will go pear shaped.

-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 3:10 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: AutoAccept Script
Subject: RE: AutoAccept Script


It is the script located referenced here:
http://autoaccept-sink.sourceforge.net/

All the conference rooms are on one server.  Thanks to Martin Tuip, I
was able to find my problem on the known issues list.

If an Outlook client has a resource mailbox open and attempts to
automatically process an incoming item then it will cause the sink to
fail due to the fact that Outlook changes the item out from under the
sink.

I know at minimum 3 of the 7 conference rooms are opened as a second
mailbox on various Admin Assist. Desktops.

I am going to evaluate ERM as an alternate soluton.  Based on your
comments, it looks like the server need to be reboot to install ERM?

Thanks,

- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
Voice: 602.631.7486
Fax: 602.294.7486



-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AutoAccept Script


Is this Robert Strong's script? It's never really been a supported
script and is even less so under E2K.[1] There are a couple of
alternatives for E2K... I'm going to install ERM for my users
(http://www.swinc.com/erm/) during our next outage window.

[1] Are all of the conference rooms on the same server?

-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 1:28 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: AutoAccept Script
Subject: AutoAccept Script


Does anybody have any experience with the AutoAccept Script?

I am having a weird problem.  I have about 12 conference rooms setup as
resources.  5 of the 12 conference rooms return confirmations when the
conference room is booked as a resources.  The other 7 do not but will
work if you add them as an attendee.  I have looked for differences in
both AD and in Outlook but can't seem to find why one conference room
works while the others don't.  They appear to be setup identically.
(Note: I didn't set them up originally)

The conference rooms that are working show the booking in the Trace
folder and in the calendar.  The conference rooms that aren't working
show no traces but the appointment is added to the calendar.

Anybody have a clue why this would happen?  Or where to start looking?

Thanks,

- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
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RE: AutoAccept Script

2003-07-09 Thread Bailey, Matthew
one never knows when something simple will go pear shaped.

Ain't that the truth and it's sig quote material.

Thanks again for the help,

- Matt

Matthew Bailey
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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 1:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AutoAccept Script


I don't believe it needs a reboot, but I think some services do need to
be stopped/started (been a while since I tested it in my lab, but I'll
be doing more shortly before we actually install). I tend to do all
software updates during an outage window if at all possible just because
one never knows when something simple will go pear shaped.

-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 3:10 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: AutoAccept Script
Subject: RE: AutoAccept Script


It is the script located referenced here:
http://autoaccept-sink.sourceforge.net/

All the conference rooms are on one server.  Thanks to Martin Tuip, I
was able to find my problem on the known issues list.

If an Outlook client has a resource mailbox open and attempts to
automatically process an incoming item then it will cause the sink to
fail due to the fact that Outlook changes the item out from under the
sink.

I know at minimum 3 of the 7 conference rooms are opened as a second
mailbox on various Admin Assist. Desktops.

I am going to evaluate ERM as an alternate soluton.  Based on your
comments, it looks like the server need to be reboot to install ERM?

Thanks,

- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
Voice: 602.631.7486
Fax: 602.294.7486



-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AutoAccept Script


Is this Robert Strong's script? It's never really been a supported
script and is even less so under E2K.[1] There are a couple of
alternatives for E2K... I'm going to install ERM for my users
(http://www.swinc.com/erm/) during our next outage window.

[1] Are all of the conference rooms on the same server?

-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 1:28 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: AutoAccept Script
Subject: AutoAccept Script


Does anybody have any experience with the AutoAccept Script?

I am having a weird problem.  I have about 12 conference rooms setup as
resources.  5 of the 12 conference rooms return confirmations when the
conference room is booked as a resources.  The other 7 do not but will
work if you add them as an attendee.  I have looked for differences in
both AD and in Outlook but can't seem to find why one conference room
works while the others don't.  They appear to be setup identically.
(Note: I didn't set them up originally)

The conference rooms that are working show the booking in the Trace
folder and in the calendar.  The conference rooms that aren't working
show no traces but the appointment is added to the calendar.

Anybody have a clue why this would happen?  Or where to start looking?

Thanks,

- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
Voice: 602.631.7486
Fax: 602.294.7486


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POP3 Broken?

2003-07-09 Thread Woods, Tony
Hello,

Exchange 5.5 SP3 on NT 4 SP6a
I've just found out that POP3 doesn't work on my dfg.com domain. From the
command line, internally, I type  telnet mail.dfg.com 110 it just sits
there and hangs. Alternatively, if I do the same for mail.moneymart.ca, it
connects immediately. Again, this is internally so there isn't a firewall or
anything blocking it. I've compared Protocol properties for both sites and
they are the same. Any ideas where to begin?

Cheers,
Tony


Tony Woods MCSE, CNA
eMail/Network Administrator
National Money Mart
(250) 519-1302 ext 245


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RE: POP3 Broken?

2003-07-09 Thread Chris Scharff
If you telnet to port 110 on the localhost where your mailbox resides
can you connect? To the netbios name? To the IP? Is mail.dfg.com a FE
server for your 5.5 environment or the mailbox server itself (i.e.
Should you expect it to be listening)?

-Original Message-
From: Woods, Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 4:54 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: POP3 Broken?
Subject: POP3 Broken?


Hello,

Exchange 5.5 SP3 on NT 4 SP6a
I've just found out that POP3 doesn't work on my dfg.com domain. From
the command line, internally, I type  telnet mail.dfg.com 110 it just
sits there and hangs. Alternatively, if I do the same for
mail.moneymart.ca, it connects immediately. Again, this is internally so
there isn't a firewall or anything blocking it. I've compared Protocol
properties for both sites and they are the same. Any ideas where to
begin?

Cheers,
Tony


Tony Woods MCSE, CNA
eMail/Network Administrator
National Money Mart
(250) 519-1302 ext 245


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RE: POP3 Broken?

2003-07-09 Thread Woods, Tony
Hi Chris,

Just got this resoloved... After having another cisco admin take a look,
there was no mapping for port 110 on the outside to the inside for the
server the houses some of the mailboxes that needed it. All fixed up now
Love that second opinion [;-)

Cheers,
Tony

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 3:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP3 Broken?


If you telnet to port 110 on the localhost where your mailbox resides can
you connect? To the netbios name? To the IP? Is mail.dfg.com a FE server for
your 5.5 environment or the mailbox server itself (i.e. Should you expect it
to be listening)?

-Original Message-
From: Woods, Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 4:54 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: POP3 Broken?
Subject: POP3 Broken?


Hello,

Exchange 5.5 SP3 on NT 4 SP6a
I've just found out that POP3 doesn't work on my dfg.com domain. From the
command line, internally, I type  telnet mail.dfg.com 110 it just sits
there and hangs. Alternatively, if I do the same for mail.moneymart.ca, it
connects immediately. Again, this is internally so there isn't a firewall or
anything blocking it. I've compared Protocol properties for both sites and
they are the same. Any ideas where to begin?

Cheers,
Tony


Tony Woods MCSE, CNA
eMail/Network Administrator
National Money Mart
(250) 519-1302 ext 245


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upgrading 5.5 standard to enterprise

2003-07-09 Thread Greg Sachs
We are trying to upgrade a server from Exchange 5.5 standard to Exchange
5.5 enterprise.

The server was just build w/ standard - a database restored from another
server to be retired w/ the same name.   Restore worked fine, had the
server running standard edition no problem

We then tried to upgrade to enterprise by running setup and selecting
reinstall - first time we came up w/ an error that pointed to a kb
article (I don't have the # handy)  that said to run exchange optimizer,
reboot - so we did that - next time we ran the setup for 5.5 enterprise
- it just hangs when it says that setup if verifying whats on the
computer.Event log shows edb starting and stopping the database
engine twice, then nothing

System is win2k adv server sp3 - exchange 5.5 sp4 (b4 the enterprise
install)

The old server we moved over from was the same config - only it was
win2k server not advanced

New server has 2 hyperthread cpus (shows up as 4) and 2gb of ram.
Anything I'm missing here?  Anyone seen anything like this?


Greg Sachs
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RE: upgrading 5.5 standard to enterprise

2003-07-09 Thread Greg Sachs
Strangest thing.

In taskmgr in addition to setup, there was an instance of xcopy started
by the setup.   We killed that b4 setup this time, and the setup
proceeded, finished successfully... Odd   - either way everything is up
and running, reporting unlimited storage, and we just reinstalled sp4
w/o incident... Onto the hotfixes...

Thanks anyway - anyone who wants to explain this, take your best shot :)



-Original Message-
From: Greg Sachs 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: upgrading 5.5 standard to enterprise


We are trying to upgrade a server from Exchange 5.5 standard to Exchange
5.5 enterprise.

The server was just build w/ standard - a database restored from another
server to be retired w/ the same name.   Restore worked fine, had the
server running standard edition no problem

We then tried to upgrade to enterprise by running setup and selecting
reinstall - first time we came up w/ an error that pointed to a kb
article (I don't have the # handy)  that said to run exchange optimizer,
reboot - so we did that - next time we ran the setup for 5.5 enterprise
- it just hangs when it says that setup if verifying whats on the
computer.Event log shows edb starting and stopping the database
engine twice, then nothing

System is win2k adv server sp3 - exchange 5.5 sp4 (b4 the enterprise
install)

The old server we moved over from was the same config - only it was
win2k server not advanced

New server has 2 hyperthread cpus (shows up as 4) and 2gb of ram.
Anything I'm missing here?  Anyone seen anything like this?


Greg Sachs
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RE: Error on Outlook 2000

2003-07-09 Thread Ed Crowley
Not just freebusy.  I was thinking of /cleanreminders specifically, but run
'em all.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
One man's Spam is another man's UCE.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 4:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

That's what I figured a corrupt message somewhere? I killed all the rules
but, didn't try the /clean (freebusy) switches only because we shut that
function off for users on Office. But will try it and others anyhow . Thanks
Ed. 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

There can be a corrupt message that looks just fine to Exchange.

Try running Outlook with some of the /clean* switches--maybe you're seeing a
problem with a reminder.

Try using OWA to delete the corrupt message if there is one and you can
identify it. 

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
One man's Spam is another man's UCE.


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

 Have a user that is using Outlook 2000 accessing an Exchange 2000
environment. While just sitting there will pop up with a memory error. Load
that same user on a different machine creat a new profile same thing. I was
thinking of exporting his mail to a pst killing his mailbox then create a
new one. Only one seeing this and no events in the event logs indicating a
problem with the exchange databse. Has anyone run into this before? Is the
action I want to take the correct one?


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RE: eseutil defrag inconsistency

2003-07-09 Thread Ed Crowley
It is reasonable to expect an inconsistency when the databases aren't
consistent?  What if you run the defrag twice ON THE SAME DATABASE, i.e.,
copies from the same unmodifed database?

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Helping others with Exchange for over a twentieth of a century.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shotton Jolyon
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

We have recently deleted a large (700+) number of accounts and mailboxes.

It has been decided that defragmenting the store would be useful.

We have tested the procedure on a disaster recovery server.  Twice.

The two restored stores were about a week apart in date and no drastic
changes were made in the meantime.

The first defrag completed in around 6 hours and reduced priv.edb from 60GB
to 39GB

The second defrag completed in around 9 hours and reduced priv.edb from 60GB
to 57GB

Previous tests of eseutil on other servers have apparently revealed
similarly inconsistent results.

Does anyone have a good idea about what is going on?

If we can recover 21GB it would be well worth the trouble but if it is
nearer 3 then the risk and disruption would make it a pointless task.





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RE: hard drive space

2003-07-09 Thread Ed Crowley
You have the latest Exchange 5.5 service pack installed? 

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.


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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Ok got the go ahead to add 2 drives. I'll add the drives mirror and then run 5.5 
optimization to move to new drives.
I had just installed exchange svp 4, I would have thought I had already rec'd latest 
ver of store!! Will check. The system was running CA av but I stopped all the services 
for CA. Store still pegged.

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space


1.  You might make sure you have the latest version of store.exe.

2.  Exmerge out the data.  Mount a blank store.  Merge it back in.

3.  Otherwise, contact MS and have them take a user dump when the store is pegged.  
They'll be able to review it and see what is causing the store spike.  Then they will 
probably have you exmerge out the data, mount a blank store, and merge it back in.  ;)

Jeff

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Posted At: 
Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:34 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: hard drive space
Subject: hard drive space

exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on drive where edb's 
are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the databases to perform 
this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and 1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space 
remaining. Store pegs cpu at 100% every 2 days. A reboot takes care of cpu for the 
next 2 days. Databases are not growing at increased rate. disabled av sw. Big problem. 
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 days for the store service 
to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to replace databases with new ones to 
see if they are the problem as per MS. But I can't do this for 2 days or more. Need 
better Ideas.
 
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RE: Outlook freezes on Public Folders

2003-07-09 Thread Ed Crowley
Exactly on what does she click to cause the freeze?

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Protecting the world from PSTs and bricked backups.


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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I have one user whos Outlook 2000 will freeze as soon as she clicks on the
public folders.  Exchange 2000.  She has been able to use public folders
until yesterday.  This happens on whatever pc she uses (no roaming
profiles).  I created a new test user using the copy option in
ActiveDirectory Computers and users.  The copied user can access public
folders, so I know it is not a permissions issue.  I am planning on
exporting all her mail to a pst.  deleting her account then recreating it.
 Then import all of her mail from the pst.

Is there anything else I could try that might be easier?

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RE: Exchange 5.5 to 2000 Migration

2003-07-09 Thread Ed Crowley
NetIQ, Quest and Aelita all have good migration tools.  I'm not sure if any
of them are particularly well suited to your interesting problem where the
user and mailbox names will be changed. 

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
One man's Spam is another man's UCE.


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sandhya Pai
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Hello everyone,

Currently we are on a single domain Nt4 and Exchange 5.5 system.  We will be
merging with the University Exchange 2000 system.  The account names of the
users will be automatically created and will be different from what we have.

My question is, are there any migration tools that can help us with moving
our exchange mailboxes directly to 2000 without loosing all the calendar
entries and username identity.  Basically I'd like to map the usernames from
old to new and use move mailbox wizard.  If there are none (or too
expensive) we will just exmerge to pst and restore the pst.  Our users will
not be too happy with this option. I heard that there are many 3rd party
tools that can help us with this.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Sandhya Pai
Manager of Server and Network Services
School of Business
University of Connecticut

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RE: bridgehead/smtp best practices?

2003-07-09 Thread Ed Crowley
I also question your assertion that mailbox servers need more frequent
reboots. 

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
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I seem to be involved in a bit of philosophical debate and want to get
opinions from the field on this.

Basically, I have some service mailboxes that I would prefer not to run on
regular mailbox servers. These particular mailboxes do not hold any email,
they are simply needed for the cirictal operation of exchange dependant
third party services (like a peice of monitoring software that needs its own
mailbox). They pose no risk to any server and do not need special attention.
I feel better if they reside on infrastructure servers such as bridgeheads
or smtp gateways since these servers tend to have less problems than regular
mailbox servers do (as far as is's stopping or mailbox servers needing to be
rebooted more often and then large transaction logs replaying that
contribute to a longer down time for these services that rely on the
mailbox).

What do you guys/gals feel about this?

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RE: upgrading 5.5 standard to enterprise

2003-07-09 Thread Ed Crowley
I think you're overcomplicating this.  All you should have to do is install
Exchange 5.5 Enterprise on top of Standard and reapply the latest service
pack, after taking a couple of backups of course. 

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We are trying to upgrade a server from Exchange 5.5 standard to Exchange
5.5 enterprise.

The server was just build w/ standard - a database restored from another
server to be retired w/ the same name.   Restore worked fine, had the
server running standard edition no problem

We then tried to upgrade to enterprise by running setup and selecting
reinstall - first time we came up w/ an error that pointed to a kb article
(I don't have the # handy)  that said to run exchange optimizer, reboot - so
we did that - next time we ran the setup for 5.5 enterprise
- it just hangs when it says that setup if verifying whats on the
computer.Event log shows edb starting and stopping the database
engine twice, then nothing

System is win2k adv server sp3 - exchange 5.5 sp4 (b4 the enterprise
install)

The old server we moved over from was the same config - only it was win2k
server not advanced

New server has 2 hyperthread cpus (shows up as 4) and 2gb of ram.
Anything I'm missing here?  Anyone seen anything like this?


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