RE: Kill new e-mail messages to previous employees

2002-06-20 Thread Ray Zorz

Better yet, create a DL with no members and add all the SMTP addresses.
No muss, no fuss, no record, nothing.  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Akerlund,
Scott
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Kill new e-mail messages to previous employees


The best method I have seen for this is to create a dummy mailbox.
Assign it all the SMTP addresses for the former employees.

Open this mailbox and set up an inbox rule wizard to permanently delete
the
messages as they come in.   For all practical purposes they become
vaporized.

Not exactly RCW and such compliant, but it works.

Scott

-Original Message-
From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 9:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Kill new e-mail messages to previous employees


Is there some brilliant way to delete all of the junk e-mail that
ex-employees get? I.E. I have it (Exchange 2000) set to send me any
e-mail message that does not resolve to one of our employees. When we
kill their old e-mail box, they have inevitably set them selves to
receive every piece of junk e-mail known to man so I get tons of them. I
realize I could just create a rule in my e-mail box to kill it as it
comes to me, but is there some kid of way to return an e-mail to the
sender that acts like the domain is no longer available (I.E. it would
act like it bounced and we no longer exist). For example, when our
server went down during the conversion, all of the e-mails I get for
this list service got bounced back and my account get set to on-hold.
What ever it looks like when my e-mail gets bounced is what I would like
to do for specific addresses. 

Does this make sense or am I barking up the wrong tree?

Thanks,

Arch Willingham

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RE: Kill new e-mail messages to previous employees

2002-06-20 Thread Ray Zorz

Read, actually.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 3:59 PM
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Subject: RE: Kill new e-mail messages to previous employees


Hear?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Glaman, Mark
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 3:27 PM
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don't tell Scharff he makes sense.. We'll never here the end of it. 

-Original Message-
From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 1:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Kill new e-mail messages to previous employees


Now those are some answers that make sense!G

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 4:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Kill new e-mail messages to previous employees


 -Original Message-
 1. Believe it or not, some of the people that are on this list are not

 only Exch Admins but also server double duty by working in other
 functions in their company. In the case a vice president of a 
 construction company...I.E. work on Exchange...build buildings, get 
 screamed at by owner's, holler at subcontractors, estimate jobs, pay 
 roll, accounts payable, job cost, maintain the other software on the 
 network, etc, etc, etc. all in a crappy construction market where you 
 can't hire a full time MIS person as money is too tight.

Hmm.. I need a new house, wonder if we could work something out in
trade.

 2. Sometimes, your brain goes numb and something just does not ring a
 bell. Have you ever forgotten a person's name?

I'm sorry, who are you again?

 3. 100% of the things we all know in life were taught to us by someone

 else. I have learned a ton by reading this list when possible and,
 every once in a while, dipping my toe in the water and asking a 
 question.

I once dropped a brick on my foot, didn't really need someone else to
tell me not to do that again. Damn brick.

 4. Have you ever used some type of software for years and had someone
 walk up and do something that, while you thought you knew it backwards

 and forwards, you had no idea it would do?

Someone told me the other day that people actually use Excel can be used
to tally up numbers. Who knew? 

 We have always had problems with young carpenters not asking enough
 questions because some old superintendent that knew everything bit 
 their head off for asking what they thought was a stupid 
 question...sound familiar?

Um... let's not use any of those young carpenters on my new house ok?
Or, at least give them an Exchange manual to read before they start...
I'll bring the coffee and doughnuts to the job site.

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RE: Default folders in Exchange

2002-06-14 Thread Ray Zorz

I thought you could just use the old mail client to fix these kinds of
things. 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 6:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Default folders in Exchange


While this isn't supposed to happen, I have witnessed something similar
myself. I had a user who had her inbox renamed to the subject of an
email.

I would probably exmerge all the data out to PST, blow away the mailbox,
recreate it, and then exmerge everything back in and massage the data to
the correct folders.

-Original Message-
From: Marc Mearns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 3:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Default folders in Exchange


User Group

Exchange 2000 SP2
Outlook 2000 SR1

I have a user who has their drafts folder below the deleted items folder
and their inbox below the drafts folder. Can any one tell me how I can
get these folders back at the root level of the users mailbox. This is
not the first time that this has happened and am wondering what would
cause this problem. I can't see this as a user error.

Deleted Items\Drafts\Inbox

Actions:

1. Look on TechNet 
2. Use Exchange 5.0 Client to try and move the folders back
3. Run Outlook.exe with /ResetFolders
4. Moving the users mailbox in the past did not cure the problem

I know as a last resort I can export the users mailbox out into a pst
and recreate the mailbox.

Constructive comments would be very much appreciated.


Regards

Marc Mearns

Mobile - 07775-630508
Office  - 020 7695 0286 


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RE: Haiku Friday

2002-06-14 Thread Ray Zorz

USA lost to Poland.  USA beat Portugal.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Woodruff,
Michael
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 7:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


USA lost to Portugal
Portugal Sucks
USA still advancing though:-)

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Haiku Friday


The Wings won last night
Stanley is home in Detroit
Now I can get sleep.


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RE: Default folders in Exchange

2002-06-14 Thread Ray Zorz

I seem to remember that I did something similar. I thought all I did was click on the 
folder and drop it on the top level folder, which IIRC is Mailbox - name

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Marc Mearns
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 9:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Default folders in Exchange


Thanks for all the responses. 

1. I did not use the move user function intially as this had not fixed my problem on 
previous occassions. On this occasion it did.

2. /ResetFolderNames Resets the language of the default folders to the language of 
the Outlook client.( This does not look as if this would fix my problem ( Also don't 
have XP).  I did try resetfolders. 

3. I did not know that you can move the folders with Exchange Client. I have only been 
able to rename folders? 

4. With OWA I was not able to do this I got access denied when trying to move a system 
folder. 

 

Thanks again.

Regards 

 

Marc Mearns

 

 

 

 


-Original Message- 
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 14 June 2002 15:43 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: RE: Default folders in Exchange 


This is just one way to fix it. Another one is running Outlook 2002 with 
the /resetfoldernames switch (as per Q296192). 

http://www.slipstick.com has a list of other possible ways to accomplish 
that without killing the whole mailbox. Unfortunately I was unable to 
find it a direct link the moment. 

Cheers:Siegfried runat=server / 

 -Original Message-
 From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 4:00 PM 
 To: Exchange Discussions 
 Subject: RE: Default folders in Exchange 
 
 You can, I have done so myself using the Exchange 4.0 client.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 9:00 AM 
 To: Exchange Discussions 
 Subject: RE: Default folders in Exchange 
 
 
 I thought you could just use the old mail client to fix these kinds of
 things. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin 
 Blackstone 
 Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 6:09 AM 
 To: Exchange Discussions 
 Subject: RE: Default folders in Exchange 
 
 
 While this isn't supposed to happen, I have witnessed something
similar 
 myself. I had a user who had her inbox renamed to the subject of an
 email. 
 
 I would probably exmerge all the data out to PST, blow away the
mailbox, 
 recreate it, and then exmerge everything back in and massage the data
to 
 the correct folders.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Marc Mearns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 3:47 AM 
 To: Exchange Discussions 
 Subject: Default folders in Exchange 
 
 
 User Group
 
 Exchange 2000 SP2
 Outlook 2000 SR1 
 
 I have a user who has their drafts folder below the deleted items
folder 
 and their inbox below the drafts folder. Can any one tell me how I can
 get these folders back at the root level of the users mailbox. This is 
 not the first time that this has happened and am wondering what would 
 cause this problem. I can't see this as a user error. 
 
 Deleted Items\Drafts\Inbox
 
 Actions:
 
 1. Look on TechNet
 2. Use Exchange 5.0 Client to try and move the folders back 
 3. Run Outlook.exe with /ResetFolders 
 4. Moving the users mailbox in the past did not cure the problem 
 
 I know as a last resort I can export the users mailbox out into a pst
 and recreate the mailbox. 
 
 Constructive comments would be very much appreciated.
 
 
 Regards
 
 Marc Mearns
 
 Mobile - 07775-630508
 Office  - 020 7695 0286 
 
 
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RE: Wal-Mart

2002-06-12 Thread Ray Zorz

Doesn't Kevin already have that job?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Baker,
Jennifer
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Wal-Mart


That and my own personal feather fan boy.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Wal-Mart


Doesn't decent pay in Arkansas equate to being enough to afford the
Learjet to commute home to a real state every night?

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:09 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Wal-Mart
 
 
 They were hiring for that same job 2 1/2 years ago.  The pay was
 decent...but it's still in Arkansas.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 7:05 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Wal-Mart
 
 
 I have a opportunity to work there. Just curious if anyone else worked

 there and what they thought about the working environment. They are
 switching from
 5.5 to 2000.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Soysal, Serdar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:43 AM
 Subject: RE: Wal-Mart
 
 
  Hmm, yes.  Anyone, please spill all the details about their
 infrastructure.
  Juuust curious.
 
  :-)
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 10 June 2002 09:59
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: OT: Wal-Mart
 
 
  Anyone here working or has worked for Wal-Mart in
 Bentonville on their
 email
  system?
 
 
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RE: Wal-Mart

2002-06-12 Thread Ray Zorz

Indoor plumbing? 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Wal-Mart


Jeez where as this thread gone? Had the interview yesterday went well.
They are hiring for 3 Exchange positions. When I asked him what is
Bentonville is like, all he said was it has all the modern amenities.

- Original Message -
From: Baker, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:01 PM
Subject: RE: Wal-Mart


 That and my own personal feather fan boy.

 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:31 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Wal-Mart


 Doesn't decent pay in Arkansas equate to being enough to afford the
Learjet
 to commute home to a real state every night?

 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Peregrine Systems
 Atlanta, GA


  -Original Message-
  From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:09 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Wal-Mart
 
 
  They were hiring for that same job 2 1/2 years ago.  The pay was 
  decent...but it's still in Arkansas.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 7:05 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Re: Wal-Mart
 
 
  I have a opportunity to work there. Just curious if anyone else 
  worked there and what they thought about the working environment. 
  They are switching from
  5.5 to 2000.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Soysal, Serdar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:43 AM
  Subject: RE: Wal-Mart
 
 
   Hmm, yes.  Anyone, please spill all the details about their
  infrastructure.
   Juuust curious.
  
   :-)
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 10 June 2002 09:59
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: OT: Wal-Mart
  
  
   Anyone here working or has worked for Wal-Mart in
  Bentonville on their
  email
   system?
  
  
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RE: Wal-Mart

2002-06-12 Thread Ray Zorz

Currently 97 here. Not too many IT jobs though. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jim Helfer
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Wal-Mart



  An-y-where!  As long as it's HOT !

   


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Wal-Mart


What's that mean? Indoor plumbing and double glaized windows?[1]

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA

[1] Beer at MEC from me for the first person to get the reference.


 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:15 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Wal-Mart
 
 
 Jeez where as this thread gone? Had the interview yesterday
 went well. They
 are hiring for 3 Exchange positions. When I asked him what is 
 Bentonville is
 like, all he said was it has all the modern amenities.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Baker, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:01 PM
 Subject: RE: Wal-Mart
 
 
  That and my own personal feather fan boy.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:31 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Wal-Mart
 
 
  Doesn't decent pay in Arkansas equate to being enough to afford the
 Learjet
  to commute home to a real state every night?
 
  --
  Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
  Sr. Systems Administrator
  Peregrine Systems
  Atlanta, GA
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:09 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Wal-Mart
  
  
   They were hiring for that same job 2 1/2 years ago.  The pay was 
   decent...but it's still in Arkansas.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 7:05 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Re: Wal-Mart
  
  
   I have a opportunity to work there. Just curious if anyone else 
   worked there and what they thought about the working environment. 
   They are switching from
   5.5 to 2000.
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Soysal, Serdar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:43 AM
   Subject: RE: Wal-Mart
  
  
Hmm, yes.  Anyone, please spill all the details about their
   infrastructure.
Juuust curious.
   
:-)
   
   
-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 June 2002 09:59
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: Wal-Mart
   
   
Anyone here working or has worked for Wal-Mart in
   Bentonville on their
   email
system?
   
   

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RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5

2002-06-12 Thread Ray Zorz

As a couple of ultimately frustrated people have pointed out, if you
have the time and the tape, and it works for you, what's the big deal?  

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Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:25 PM
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It takes a long time, and it takes a lot of tape space.  And you know
what? I don't think I have ever heard of anyone ever needing to use one,
especially with deleted item retention.  So, why waste time, tape,
bandwidth (assuming you are backing up over a network) and CPU cycles?

~
-K.Borndale
IT Manager
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
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So its wrong because other people said it is. You make your own
conclusions thru experience and i have not found any issues so far with
running brick level backups.

So andy give me some more logical reasons as to why brick level backup
is not good rather than just because other admins said so

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5


WRONG!

Issue Number Four: If Brick Level Backups are so absolutely necessary,
why is it that so many  Exchange Admins on this list recommend you do
not use them?





-Original Message-
From: kanee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5


This has been a known issue with veritas products. The mapi32.dll file
is very sensitive and reports errors on messages as cannot open and thus
will show the status of backup as failed. There isnt really much you can
do about this, except ask the user to delete the message its referencing
in the error message from his mailbox and empty it from deleted items.

I have spent some time with veritas and they point fingers at microsoft
and i spoke to microsoft and they point the fingers back to veritas,
veritas knows of this issue and they say they are looking at a solution
and should be out in the next build for backup exec8.6, i know you use
netbackup so maybe you should look into their next build for netbackup.
Even though this error pops up and the overall status of the backup job
shows up as failed, the backup in actuality is successful, you can
restore the users mailbox and the only thing missing would be those
messages that it reported as corrupted or cannot open. So dont loose any
sleep over this you are fine.

dONT LISTEN TO PEOPLE TELLING YOU NOT TO DO BRICK LEVEL BACKUPS, ITS
ABSOLUTELY NECCESSARY TO DO BRICK LEVEL BACKUPS, IT WILL SAVE YOU SO
MUCH HEADACHE AND HEART ACHE LATER..TRUST ME.

-Original Message-
From: Kulwinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5


Thanks for the info.




 Well then, might i suggest, as Andy and no doubt other admins would 
 recommend, that you should stop doing BLB's. Here are a few links for 
 you
to
 ponder over.

 http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm

 http://www.exchangefaq.org/recovery/0004.php3

 Regards

 Mr Louis Joyce
 Data Support Analyst

 -Original Message-
 From: Kulwinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 10 June 2002 15:21
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5


 we get the error when doing a BLB only.  when doing normal full 
 backups
of
 the store - everything is fine - the mailbox account that we use has 
 the exchange service account set as the nt account, sop has the 
 permissions set.


  Im sorry, im getting confused now. Do you get the error when doing a
brick
  level back-up? Or when you just back up the store on its own?
 
  Are you saying you only carry out BLB's when you get this type of

RE: OWA

2002-06-10 Thread Ray Zorz

Say it with diamonds.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA


I love you, Jennifer.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Baker,
Jennifer
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA


He's a suck-up.  We all know who really wrote it. 

-Original Message-
From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA


Hey!!!  I'm the author of the how to move Exchange servers to a
different domain [1].  

Sheesh . .  Ed gets all the credit around here mutter


-Original Message-
From: Tony McCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 5:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA


Hi Ed,

Thanks very much for the tip. I tried using his SMTP address and can now
access his inbox via OWA. The strange thing is, there doesn't seem to be
an alias even remotely like this guys one. I'll go through my mailboxes
and check though because there must be a similar alias, as you
suggested. By the way, thanks a lot for all your highly informative info
on the swinc site. I've learned heaps about changing first servers,
Exchange service accounts and moving Exchange servers between domains.
This stuff just isn't covered in any Exchange 5.5 book I've read and
without your articles I would have been lost.

Regards
Tony


See if the user can get to the mailbox with his SMTP address instead of
the alias.  That would suggest that this user's alias is a substring of
another alias.  For example, his alias is joe and you have a joel
already.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony McCarthy
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 3:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA



Hi Everyone,

I have a problem with a mailbox that, for some reason cannot be found
with OWA. The user gets the following error message OWA was unable to
get to your inbox. There is nothing overtly unusual about this
particular user's setup. I have tried pointing his mailbox to both
servers in the site in his mailboxes Advanced Properties. I've also
tried leaving this field blank with no success. Apart from the OWA
problem his mailbox works fine. I've just about reached a point where
I'm going to delete his mailbox and recreate it. No one else in the site
has this problem. Does anyone know what could be causing this?

Regards
Tony

Tony McCarthy
Systems Engineer
OSI Software
Auckland
New Zealand
Ph:   64 09 522 5909 (Auckland)
Fax: 64 09 522 5901 (Auckland)
Mob: 021 703035 (NZ)

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RE: OWA

2002-06-10 Thread Ray Zorz

Mark Green died.  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA


We only get supporting roles. Ed is still the star.
He is kind of like the Dr Mark Green of Swynk. Except not as nice.



-Original Message-
From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA


Hey!!!  I'm the author of the how to move Exchange servers to a
different domain [1].  

Sheesh . .  Ed gets all the credit around here mutter


-Original Message-
From: Tony McCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 5:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA


Hi Ed,

Thanks very much for the tip. I tried using his SMTP address and can now
access his inbox via OWA. The strange thing is, there doesn't seem to be
an alias even remotely like this guys one. I'll go through my mailboxes
and check though because there must be a similar alias, as you
suggested. By the way, thanks a lot for all your highly informative info
on the swinc site. I've learned heaps about changing first servers,
Exchange service accounts and moving Exchange servers between domains.
This stuff just isn't covered in any Exchange 5.5 book I've read and
without your articles I would have been lost.

Regards
Tony


See if the user can get to the mailbox with his SMTP address instead of
the alias.  That would suggest that this user's alias is a substring of
another alias.  For example, his alias is joe and you have a joel
already.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony McCarthy
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 3:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA



Hi Everyone,

I have a problem with a mailbox that, for some reason cannot be found
with OWA. The user gets the following error message OWA was unable to
get to your inbox. There is nothing overtly unusual about this
particular user's setup. I have tried pointing his mailbox to both
servers in the site in his mailboxes Advanced Properties. I've also
tried leaving this field blank with no success. Apart from the OWA
problem his mailbox works fine. I've just about reached a point where
I'm going to delete his mailbox and recreate it. No one else in the site
has this problem. Does anyone know what could be causing this?

Regards
Tony

Tony McCarthy
Systems Engineer
OSI Software
Auckland
New Zealand
Ph:   64 09 522 5909 (Auckland)
Fax: 64 09 522 5901 (Auckland)
Mob: 021 703035 (NZ)

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RE: stupid disclaimers

2002-06-07 Thread Ray Zorz

Wickieup AZ

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hummert
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 12:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers


I figure there's that town in the southwest that has the annual
rattlesnake round up. Where they capture as many rattlesnakes and then
kill them. Couldn't we have something like that for lawyers?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers


now youre trying to get on my good side
;-)

bill

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers


Wouldn't the easiest solution to all of this be killing all lawyers? 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers


Also, I could simply claim that I am not bound by contracts which I did
not sign.  Copyrights (note the spelling) are enforceable by law.  You
could, I imagine, copyright an e-mail, but you I don't think that I have
ever seen a disclaimer that has the line:

C2002 Ed Crowley

or the like, which is all that is technically required to apply a
copyright to a publication (as I understand it but I am not an
attorney).  So the issue is not copyright.

By receiving an item by e-mail I do not submit to being bound to any
contractural agreement, just like I am not bound by any contractural
agreement associated with every single piece of postal junk mail I
receive.  As far as I am aware, no law says that I am.  So, in your
judgment (you aren't a lawyer either, are you?) should I reply to every
piece of e-mail that has a disclaimer with a message of my own notifying
said correspondent that I am not bound by the legalese of their
disclaimer?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles
Carerros
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers


I wasn't clear..sorry palm pilot has taken up two days because I cant
get it to sync..and I'm way beyond being frustrated bye it..

But to clarify.


Adding a disclaimer to an e-mail is like adding a citation to item under
copywrite.  You show, very plainly, that you understand the sensitivity
of the information and because you have to manually enter the e-mail
address you show that you are aware of who you send it to.  

To add to that you can go into contract law and pull out court cases
that argue wither online click Ok to agree type of contracts are not
legal.  You only need to argue that if digital contracts are not always
legal, how can you claim that a disclaimer that is placed on the end of
an e-mail (and you can argue that as a standard practice that you stop
reading the e-mail if you get to one) can some how hold a legal suit
against you.

They can't, because disclaimer are not law (where being ignorant of law
does not protect you from punishment) you cannot legal enter a contract
(such as is implied with a disclaimer) without some proof of knowledge
of it.

So, if you add the disclaimer to your e-mail, you are stating, Yea, I
_know_ that this is sensitive stuff but if I send it out no one can use
it in anyway or I can sue them. 

I'm not sure, but I bet a good lawyer could use that type of angle to
destroy all legal ramifications that would favor a disclaimer.


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers


I don't understand how this relates to disclaimers one way or another.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles
Carerros
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers


If you get a lawyer out of the office and talking like a human being, (I
did this once) you get really interesting information.

Like one told me once that if you create a website with all borrowed
copywrited materials you should NEVER site the source of the materials
in thinking that if you site the source all obligations go away.  What
you are really doing is giving the lawyer half of what he needs to
prosecute you.  (Fair use and copyright is based on knowledge of use and
then the extent that the use effects the market, in a nutshell that's
it).  

So if you steal something or want to make a lawyer work you DON'T put a
disclaimer on it, that way 

RE: Exporting from Outlook 98

2002-06-06 Thread Ray Zorz

You setup the DR server, restore the priv and use exmerge. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Kuhl
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exporting from Outlook 98


Is exporting to a .pst unreliable? We were having trouble with Outlook
on one pc and a consultant did an export and not all the email came
back.  We are still using Arcserve 2000 for backup and I turned off the
bricks level because of reading it was bad news. So how then do I
recover a single mailbox.

Microsoft is so wonderful, NOT


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RE: Messaging collaboration (Unified Messaging)

2002-06-04 Thread Ray Zorz

Why are giving her such a hard time? 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Doug Hampshire
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Messaging  collaboration (Unified Messaging)


I just heard back from one of my contacts at the insert guv'ment agency
that does not exist and they said you were a Troll.

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 8:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Messaging  collaboration (Unified Messaging)


I just heard back from one of my contacts at Microsoft.  He said that he
can't comment on it.  But he did say that there are some wild theories
out there.  Some are crazy and some are more sane

--Felicity
 Sadly enough, true. Conclusion: unless it is a released product there 
 is nothing you can really rely on, even a press announcement.
 
 Sig /
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:38 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Messaging  collaboration (Unified Messaging) =20
  At ATE 2 years ago, we spent a lot of time answering questions about
 the
  amazing E2K WebDav features in Outlook 2002 based on the 
 presentations  given  there eh Sig? I don't exactly trust things I 
 read on  http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/default.asp as gospel 
 either. =20
   -Original Message-
   From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 8:25 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Messaging  collaboration (Unified Messaging)
  
  
   From the http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/20879.html:
  
   quote
   The pending announcement is vitally important for Microsoft, 
   because the rumors suggest that Kodiak, the next major release of 
   Exchange Server, will use Yukon as its store rather than the 
   current JET/EDB/ESE storage engine. If that is the case, then 
   Yukon will need to handle the extraordinary storage flexibility 
   that Exchange Server offers today. /quote
  
   Read it closely. It doesn't say the next version of Exchange. It 
   talks a about a future MAJOR release code named Kodiak. Also note 
   that both articles is from 07/08/2001, about a year old! I 
   wouldn't count on anything which isn't officially from Microsoft 
   and current.
  
   And of course, these are all rumors unless it is officially 
   confirmed in public by Microsoft. So, unless I read it on 
   http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/default.asp I do not believe it

   is true.
  
   Can we now get back to our daily work and stop feeding the rumor
 mill?
  
   Siegfried /
  
-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Messaging  collaboration (Unified Messaging)
   
I apologize for leading anyone astray, but Siegfried I was
   absolutely
stunned to hear you say it wasn't so.  I have been
   following this for
   a
long time and I though it was a done deal.
   
Please give me your comments on the following links.
   
http://www.dnjonline.com/TechEd2001/reports/sess_keynote_jon.htm
l
   
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/20879.html
   
I am checking with a few of my SQL contacts who work for
   Microsoft to
   hear
what they can officially say about this.  I know a few who work 
on
   part of
the teams who are involved in the SQL.NET File System which
   you may or
   may
not know if very similar to WSS, and is optimized for handling 
the
   sort of
non-rectangular record sets that Exchange has.
   
--Felicity
 Neither will ESE98 being ported to SQL Server nor does the 
 next
   version
 of Exchange have an SQL Server based database engine.

 As I mentioned already. Please check that information with the
   source
 you got it from and stop posting plain wrong information
   here which
 might confuse other people.

 Siegfried /

  -Original Message-
  From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:21 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Messaging  collaboration (Unified Messaging) =
 =3D20
  I know that, I was making a dumb joke about the fact that 
  SQL
   Server
 will
  be providing the next database engine for the next version 
  of
 Exchange.
  And the code name for the next version of SQL Server is
   Yukon. =3D20
  Can you confirm that ESE98 is being ported to SQL Server? 
 =3D20  TIA
 =3D20
  --Felicity
   The next version of Exchange is not codenamed Yukon.
  
   William 
   
   *Titanium* Racing Bikes
   Why ride when you can fly? - William Lefkovics
   www.airborne.net
   

RE: Where is everyone?

2002-06-04 Thread Ray Zorz

Hi John. I'm in Phoenix too.  Too hot, too dry.  

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Where is everyone?


Phoenix, 98° F . . . .getting hot.
Data Center:  68° F

I'll stay inside today.

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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:31 AM
Subject: RE: Where is everyone?


Richland, WA...SE Corner of Washington State.  3.5 hours SE of Seattle.

Temperature 73° F (supposed to get to 85)
Windchill 76° F (means it's a hot wind)
Humidity 41%
Wind Southwest at 13 mph
Conditions Fair
Visibility 10.0 miles

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 7:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Where is everyone?


Where is everyone?  Is there some party going for Exchange admins that I
wasn't invited to?  Or is everyone hung over from the weekend?  Or am I
getting the silent treatment yet again?

Sigh!

-Felicity

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RE: Where is everyone?

2002-06-04 Thread Ray Zorz

Sons of Hercules on Channel 9 (WOR?)!  

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Subject: RE: Where is everyone?


Hi, I'm Andy and I like gladiator movies and margaritas.

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Hi John. I'm in Phoenix too.  Too hot, too dry.  

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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Phoenix, 98° F . . . .getting hot.
Data Center:  68° F

I'll stay inside today.

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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:31 AM
Subject: RE: Where is everyone?


Richland, WA...SE Corner of Washington State.  3.5 hours SE of Seattle.

Temperature 73° F (supposed to get to 85)
Windchill 76° F (means it's a hot wind)
Humidity 41%
Wind Southwest at 13 mph
Conditions Fair
Visibility 10.0 miles

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 7:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Where is everyone?


Where is everyone?  Is there some party going for Exchange admins that I
wasn't invited to?  Or is everyone hung over from the weekend?  Or am I
getting the silent treatment yet again?

Sigh!

-Felicity

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RE: Where is everyone?

2002-06-03 Thread Ray Zorz

Phoenix, AZ.

Send rain. 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of William
Lefkovics
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Where is everyone?


I'm in Las Vegas, NV.  Where are you?


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Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 7:23 AM
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Subject: Where is everyone?


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RE: Where is everyone?

2002-06-03 Thread Ray Zorz

We were all at the Tony Awards.  

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Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Where is everyone?


NYC - everyone is coming on line at once, you must all be getting back
from something.

--Felicity
 Mmm... World Cup.  Sleepless nights...
 
 Lot of people think Argentina will get this one.
 
 Serdar Soysal
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 1:41 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Where is everyone?
 
 
 Off celebrating the World Cup?
 
 Naw, we wouldn't give you the silent treatment.
 
 John Matteson; Exchange Manager
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
 (404) 239 - 2981
 
 Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has 
 been accepted as a reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely 
 temporary, and its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort 
 to achieve my goal. Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in 
 my doing; it is a path leading to success and truth. --Bruce Lee
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:23 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Where is everyone?
 
 
 Where is everyone?  Is there some party going for Exchange admins that

 I wasn't invited to?  Or is everyone hung over from the weekend?  Or 
 am I getting the silent treatment yet again?
 
 Sigh!
 
 -Felicity
 
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RE: Where is everyone?

2002-06-03 Thread Ray Zorz

Only the secret cabal knows, which of course doesn't exist. 

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Blackstone
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Where is everyone?


You're home? Are you there to stay?

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Where is everyone?


I'm in Las Vegas, NV.  Where are you?


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Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 7:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Where is everyone?


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Sigh!

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RE: Where is everyone?

2002-06-03 Thread Ray Zorz

Yup. Way too dry. 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sanborn, John
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 12:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Where is everyone?


We've just brought our new volunteer fire dept[1] into operation this
past weekend.  Looks like it's going to busy summer ...

[1] outside of Maricopa - south of Phoenix.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Where is everyone?


Got plenty of that here 
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 7:43 PM
Subject: RE: Where is everyone?


 Phoenix, AZ.
 
 Send rain.
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of William 
 Lefkovics
 Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Where is everyone?
 
 
 I'm in Las Vegas, NV.  Where are you?
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Felicity 
 Smith
 Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 7:23 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Where is everyone?
 
 
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 I wasn't invited to?  Or is everyone hung over from the weekend?  Or 
 am I getting the silent treatment yet again?
 
 Sigh!
 
 -Felicity
 
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RE: Cable Modems

2002-06-03 Thread Ray Zorz

If you didn't kill each other first.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 2:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cable Modems


Don and I working in the same office would be downright scary. All the
other techs would be crying and shaking.

-Original Message-
From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 1:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cable Modems


Dear Martin and Don,

If you are that good, I could get both of you jobs on the
Network and Communications Team here at Wawa.  The VPN Project at Wawa
was (and is) not easy.
Think about it, you could drink all of the Wawa brand drinks for
free, all work day long, and have access to all the Scrapple you could
eat


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 02:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cable Modems


Putting the rack mount brackets on

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cable Modems


It takes you that long???  Or are you including removing it from the
box? :P

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 2:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cable Modems


I think it depends on the VPN. A Cisco VPN device can be configured in
about 5 minutes.

-Original Message-
From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cable Modems


Dear Dot,

I apologize.  I have misled you.  VPN is not easy.
VPN is not easy, but it can accomplish what you are looking to
do.


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 01:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cable Modems


Thanks for the responses, it looks as though the VPN route is going to
be the easiest to implement for us.

Dot

 -Original Message-
 From: John Matteson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 12:44 PM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Cable Modems
 
 VPN. Secure, authenticated. Just like at the office.
 
 John Matteson; Exchange Manager
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
 (404) 239 - 2981
 
 Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has 
 been accepted as a reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely 
 temporary, and its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort 
 to achieve my goal. Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in 
 my doing; it is a path leading to success and truth. --Bruce Lee
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:29 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Cable Modems
 
 
 With the current wave of cable modems and DSL links offered by 
 Ameritech, ATT and, of late, DirecTV our users are asking for access 
 to their email via these services.  Our mail server is not publicly 
 accessible.  Does any one have a good way of handling these requests? 
 Personally, I don't want to enable access to my mail servers via 
 Ameritech.net or whatever.
 
 Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Dot Harris
 William Blair  Company
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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RE: Cable Modems

2002-06-03 Thread Ray Zorz

Torchering?  Is that English Flashlight tag?  I dunno, given 2 my way
or die attitudes, I wouldn't want to be there. 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ely, Don
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 2:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cable Modems


We'd not kill each other.  Torchering others...  Now that's fun!

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 5:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cable Modems


If you didn't kill each other first.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 2:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cable Modems


Don and I working in the same office would be downright scary. All the
other techs would be crying and shaking.

-Original Message-
From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 1:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cable Modems


Dear Martin and Don,

If you are that good, I could get both of you jobs on the
Network and Communications Team here at Wawa.  The VPN Project at Wawa
was (and is) not easy.
Think about it, you could drink all of the Wawa brand drinks for
free, all work day long, and have access to all the Scrapple you could
eat


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 02:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cable Modems


Putting the rack mount brackets on

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cable Modems


It takes you that long???  Or are you including removing it from the
box? :P

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 2:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cable Modems


I think it depends on the VPN. A Cisco VPN device can be configured in
about 5 minutes.

-Original Message-
From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cable Modems


Dear Dot,

I apologize.  I have misled you.  VPN is not easy.
VPN is not easy, but it can accomplish what you are looking to
do.


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 01:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cable Modems


Thanks for the responses, it looks as though the VPN route is going to
be the easiest to implement for us.

Dot

 -Original Message-
 From: John Matteson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 12:44 PM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Cable Modems
 
 VPN. Secure, authenticated. Just like at the office.
 
 John Matteson; Exchange Manager
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
 (404) 239 - 2981
 
 Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has 
 been accepted as a reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely 
 temporary, and its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort 
 to achieve my goal. Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in 
 my doing; it is a path leading to success and truth. --Bruce Lee
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:29 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Cable Modems
 
 
 With the current wave of cable modems and DSL links offered by 
 Ameritech, ATT and, of late, DirecTV our users are asking for access 
 to their email via these services.  Our mail server is not publicly 
 accessible.  Does any one have a good way of handling these requests? 
 Personally, I don't want to enable access to my mail servers via 
 Ameritech.net or whatever.
 
 Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Dot Harris
 William Blair  Company
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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RE: IE access to Outlook calendar

2002-05-31 Thread Ray Zorz

We've all done one-handed typing.. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Felicity Smith
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 7:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IE access to Outlook calendar


You should use the Outlook View Control.  I will paste the code in my
next email and you can run it.  I fear that if I post it in this message
the antivirus detectors for everyone who subscribes to this list will
howl.

This is so sexy when I first discovered it I almost... well, I'd better
not get into that here, it would just encourage you perverts, or the
perverts amongst you.

--Felicity

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RE: Test

2002-05-28 Thread Ray Zorz

LOL! 

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Subject: RE: Test


Pardon me for asking, but who is Ed Crowley and why should I worship at
his feet?

--Felicity

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RE: Test

2002-05-28 Thread Ray Zorz

Like Fluke? 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Test


Especially a hot looking vendor who you are not going to buy from.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Test


Food always tastes better when someone else pays for
it.

Ed Crowley
hp Services

--- Doug Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Check the FAQ. Read section 2.6, Appendix A, and
 Appendix B.
 
 BTW, Ed hates feet worship. However I don't ever
 recall him turning down an
 offer of a free lunch.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Felicity Smith
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:03 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Test
 
 
 Pardon me for asking, but who is Ed Crowley and why
 should I worship at
 his feet?
 
 --Felicity
 

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RE: Drive m:????

2002-05-22 Thread Ray Zorz

Keep looking. Their ad is next to the Equalizers.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Clark, John A
(FUSA)
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 7:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Drive m:


Does anyone know how to hire the A-Team?  I can't find their ad in my local
papers.

-Original Message-
From: HANNA, Keith (TSL Shirley) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Drive m:


Happy Birthday to Mr. T. today.
:)

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 May 2002 15:27
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Drive m:


There is no A-Team

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 7:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Drive m:


Right. There is no M: drive.

 -Original Message-
 From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 7:30 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Drive m:


 pardon me for sounding so partonizing, but the M drive is the
 installable file system that ships with exchange.  As you
 know all internet protocols (http, smtp, nntp, pop, imap) are
 now server by the same engine that does IIS.  IIS consults
 the Exhcange store and a file handle to the item you are
 looking for in the Exchange store is returned.

 This is a true NTFS file handle and is provided by the EPoxy
 or EXIPC mechanism which masquarades exchange items as NTFS
 file handles using an asynchornous work queue which is
 extremely fast and provides little context switching.  Think
 of it as another file system driver just the same as FAT,
 NTFS, CDFS, HPFS.

 The reason some of you do and some of you don't see an M
 drive is because IIS launches (specifically the W3svc
 service) before your exchange store service completes it
 start up process.  Hence no M drive.  All you do is bounce
 your w3svc service and you will have an M Drive.

 I chose to change
 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\W3SVC
 and make DependOnService have the value of MSExchangeIS.

 You can change the drive letter by editing the following
 registry key.
 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\EXIFS\Parameters
 On the Edit menu, click Add Value, and then add the following registry
 value:
 Value Name: DriveLetter Data Type: REG_SZ Value: P
 NOTE: If the DriveLetter value already exists, double-click
 the value, and then change the drive to n: or another letter.

 One more point about the EXIFS (Exchange Installable File
 System) - there are three methods of application deployment -
 xcopy from the file system, ftp, or email or sending data to
 an exchange public folder.  NT admins like xcopy, web admins
 like ftp or webdave, exchange admins like to deploy to public
 folders.  EXIFS provides a mechisim to keep everyone happy.

 --Felicity



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RE: Drive m:????

2002-05-21 Thread Ray Zorz

Sure there is. He has evidence. I have evidence. We've all seen it. It was
just an unfortunate implementation on MS part.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Miller
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Drive m:


There is no M: drive...

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Muqeem Syed
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 11:46 AM
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Subject: RE: Drive m:


WELL SUPRPRISE SURPRISE GUYS. I have M: and there are some reports
that I can forward you .. I mean my anti-virus software tries to scan
the M: and gets an error thrown... my backup software.. which also uses
the disaster recovery otpion tries to do the same... and it gets an
access denied.. and when I log in with the enetrprise admin as well. and
try to check it.. shows me all the folders of the informtaion store..
but nothing beyond that.. says that I can see the permissions.. but cant
change anything on that...
I think we should check the microsoft site for more info.. and evidently
the norton anti-virus site recommends that a filter be set on the
anti-virus software to avoid scanning the M:

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 9:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Drive m:


There is no M: drive. Ignore the M: drive. Forget you ever even heard
the possibility of the existence of such a thing.

 -Original Message-
 From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 1:32 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Drive m:


 Okwhat's this Drive M: everyone talks about? I just
 installed Exchange 2000 last night and I don't see diddly
 squat about a drive m:. Note, that the server (and all of our
 workstations) already map to a drive we call m:. Is that the conflict?

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RE: Drive m:????

2002-05-21 Thread Ray Zorz

Ghostbusters?

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeremy Pinquist
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:05 PM
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Subject: RE: Drive m:


There is only Zuul.
(2 gold stars for whomever gets the reference)
JP

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 3:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Drive m:


There is no M: drive... 

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RE: OT Upgrade question

2002-05-21 Thread Ray Zorz

The only reason you have to upgrade is the fact that NT4  E5.5 are closer
to becoming non-supported.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:12 PM
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Subject: OT Upgrade question


We're a smaller
company(
40 users) and we currently run NT 4.0 and Exchange 5.5.  Both run great and
have been very stable (knock on wood).

My question is how do you approach upper management asking to upgrade to
Windows and Exchange 2000 when they have the if it ain't broke, don't fix
it mentality?  I've already tried the additional functionality route,
but they're not buying it.

Mike

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RE: OT Upgrade question

2002-05-21 Thread Ray Zorz

The last thing you want to hear, when or if you need it, is Dude, you are
so not supported.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Bryant
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:23 PM
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Subject: RE: OT Upgrade question


If its not broke you don't need support so who cares if support is
available?

Eventually the increased functionality may be of value to the higher
ups,
after one of them hears about some great thing from a buddy on the golf
course, etc. Address it then. Meanwhile, show them how much money you've
saved them by not upgrading and ask for a portion of those savings as a
bonus.

 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT Upgrade question


 The only reason you have to upgrade is the fact that NT4 
 E5.5 are closer
 to becoming non-supported.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Omilian
 Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:12 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: OT Upgrade question


 We're a smaller
 company(
 40 users) and we currently run NT 4.0 and Exchange 5.5.
 Both run great and
 have been very stable (knock on wood).

 My question is how do you approach upper management asking to
 upgrade to
 Windows and Exchange 2000 when they have the if it ain't
 broke, don't fix
 it mentality?  I've already tried the additional
 functionality route,
 but they're not buying it.

 Mike

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RE: Cerification question

2002-05-05 Thread Ray Zorz

New people. Old pissed off people. Etc. 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William
Lefkovics
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 8:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


Why do we go through this every three to six months?  

William 


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Soysal, Serdar
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


Certs are not a sign of competency.  They just mean that the person is
capable of memorizing braindumps.  I interviewed MCSEs that answered the
question Explain your NT domain structure in your previous job with an
answer like We had ATM coming to the back of our PCs.  You've got to
be careful with MCSEs that come with huge resumes.  There are some ways
you can tell if they're good or not though.  For example if the
candidate writes MCSE with a larger font than his own name, you probably
have a clueless wall-licker in your hands.

If a person doesn't have certification, it means that he/she has not sat
through the tests.  That person can be the most knowledgeable guy out
there.


Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Gordon Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


That guy is a knucklehead. The Best Cert is the one you need or help
you do your job better. That is the best cert. I have a CCNP and CCDP
and I really do not work in that industry. I really am an admin working
with M$, Cisco, Citrix, Unix etc I studied the Cisco stuff because
we were converting from x.25 to frame relay and I wanted to do it so I
asked the company to give me a shot. I used the knowledge again when we
switched to NVPN. My only point is that the Certs were about what I
needed to improve my skill set.

I had to hire a guy recently (echoing Lori and Ray) and I hired the guy
that had very little Practical experience but he did have an MCSE. I
thought that at least showed that he wanted to learn. I interviewed a
few others that had more experience and never took the time to educate
themselves in their chosen craft.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


Don't invite that speaker again.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Cerification question


There is a big sqaubble about the best certification to get( and this
was being discussed at Ohio State) That if you was going to get any type
of certification EXCHANGE IS NOT THE ONE to get, Cisco is the premier
certification.One of the speakers was telling a senior class this before
graduation starts. Do anyone agree with that or does it make a
difference?

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RE: Ximian Exchange 2000

2002-05-03 Thread Ray Zorz

Flamed?  I hope you continue to report on how it's going. Lotsa interest in
non-Windows clients.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tom
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Ximian  Exchange 2000


Hoping I don't get flamed for this, but here goes.

I've got a shop with numerous Linux users, but we also use exchange.

I'm tired of the IMAP mess and want to enable them to participate in the
calendaring, etc. that exchange provides.  My question is, has anyone
tried the GNOME (Ximian) Evolution software with exchange 2000
connector?

If so, what are some of the bugs/pitfalls that you've experienced?  I
don't want to waste a lot of time if it's not ready for prime time yet.

Cheers,

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RE: Cerification question

2002-05-02 Thread Ray Zorz

While I agree, it's hard to put that on your resume.  I'd rather hire people
like me that don't immediately assume there's only one way to set up a
network, and screw up the network even more because they don't why know
things were done the way they were done.  But again, while you can put that
in the cover letter, you don't even know if they read it.

I agree with the certs not being a measure of ability, just like you've
probably met doctors, lawyers, certified ASE mechanics, etc, that aren't too
good.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen Mynhier
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 5:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


I deal with (new and different) people daily who have worked with
Exchange for years but don't know their database from their check file.
I wouldn't let them within 20 feet of any Exchange server that I worked
on but they are the hired Exchange expert for their company.  The fact
is that people are people, and certified people are not inherently
better than experienced people or vice versa.  I think that the best bet
is the person who realizes that, regardless of how much he knows, he
does not know everything and is always willing and wanting to learn more
than he currently knows.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:43 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Cerification question
Subject: RE: Cerification question


Very good points.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


You people talk like you can't have both. Sure there are some paper
MCSEs out there but there are also many MCSEs that have mucho
experience.  Most hiring managers, all things being equal will look at
experience first but... then certs.  Additionally while experience is
the best there are people that have worked in one environment for so
long that they know NOTHING about any other capabilities of the
hardware/software.  They are nearly as bad as the paper MSCE because the
scope of their knowledge is so very limited and because of their
experience think the only way to run a network is the way they did it at
their last job.  At least the Paper boyz know they are limited, are
willing to learn, cost half as much and don't cause half the drama the
experience guy does.  They piss me off so much more, that and they
usually have no idea as to WHY their last network was set up that way
but that it is just the best way.  Experience is NOT always the best
qualifier either

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RE: Cerification question

2002-05-02 Thread Ray Zorz

Wraith w/ Charlie Sheen?

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glaman, Mark
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


Ok how aboutThe Raith   very cool movie

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


mallrats (classic)

a really messed up movie that made me go what the hell did i watch was (Lost
Highway)

-Original Message-
From: King, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 3:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


Ok so I was wrong and BlockBuster does carry it..  Silly me, when will I
realize that Cooperate America rules all that is molecular...

http://www.blockbuster.com/bb/movie/details/0,7286,VID-V+++237115,00.html?

  ~John

-Original Message-
From: Orr, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


So where does one find this film?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:48 PM
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I just caught it last week, and was blown away.  After watching it, I
immediately played it again with the director's commentary.  Who knew Bubble
Boy could act?



-Original Message-
From: King, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


I know that this is wyyy OT, but if you haven't watched 'Donnie Darko'
yet, then go out and rent it..!!  Trust me it is amazing, and not (sic) like
some of my favz.  It is an indy flick so BlockBuster most likely doesn't
carry it...

www.donniedarko.com

Seriously this film is a dark comedy and is the best flick I have seen in
awhile.  A refreshing change from Patriotic inspired Police society big
explosion trash..


-Original Message-
From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


Dang right, you're disfunctional with Clockwork Organge being one of your
favorites.  I didn't care for a bit; although Malcom McDowell (sic?) was
good in it.

Now, if you're looking for a favorite off-the-wall movie,I'd vote for Being
John Malcovich.

Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Mem Med Ctr


-Original Message-
From: King, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


2001 A Space Odyssey
Clockwork Orange
Full Metal Jacket

Does that mean that I should only work for a dysfunctional company...?

-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Cerification question


Well, I just realized that my three current favorites really aren't
chick flicks, so maybe I misspoke.  But there's no Monty Python, so...

1.  Dogma
2. Apollo 13
3.  12 Angry Men

They may up my estrogen allotment when they find out about this,
though...

- Original Message -
From: Randal, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: Cerification question


Go on, tell  us, and we can put it to the test :-)

Phil

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Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK

 -Original Message-
 From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 02 May 2002 16:05
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Cerification question


 That is so not fair.  I doubt that my three favorite movies
 would endear
 me to a group of men, who tend to be a bit more, shall we say,
 neandrathal, in their choices.

 M

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RE: Cerification question

2002-05-02 Thread Ray Zorz

http://www.fast-rewind.com/index.html - Seems to be either in a UK or AU
format.  I did a google search for Wraith DVD and got a few hits.

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ok   so spelling is not my strong point.. Yep that's the one.. I've been
trying to find it on DVD

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From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:13 PM
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Wraith w/ Charlie Sheen?

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glaman, Mark
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


Ok how aboutThe Raith   very cool movie

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


mallrats (classic)

a really messed up movie that made me go what the hell did i watch was (Lost
Highway)

-Original Message-
From: King, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 3:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


Ok so I was wrong and BlockBuster does carry it..  Silly me, when will I
realize that Cooperate America rules all that is molecular...

http://www.blockbuster.com/bb/movie/details/0,7286,VID-V+++237115,00.html?

  ~John

-Original Message-
From: Orr, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


So where does one find this film?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


I just caught it last week, and was blown away.  After watching it, I
immediately played it again with the director's commentary.  Who knew Bubble
Boy could act?



-Original Message-
From: King, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


I know that this is wyyy OT, but if you haven't watched 'Donnie Darko'
yet, then go out and rent it..!!  Trust me it is amazing, and not (sic) like
some of my favz.  It is an indy flick so BlockBuster most likely doesn't
carry it...

www.donniedarko.com

Seriously this film is a dark comedy and is the best flick I have seen in
awhile.  A refreshing change from Patriotic inspired Police society big
explosion trash..


-Original Message-
From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


Dang right, you're disfunctional with Clockwork Organge being one of your
favorites.  I didn't care for a bit; although Malcom McDowell (sic?) was
good in it.

Now, if you're looking for a favorite off-the-wall movie,I'd vote for Being
John Malcovich.

Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Mem Med Ctr


-Original Message-
From: King, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


2001 A Space Odyssey
Clockwork Orange
Full Metal Jacket

Does that mean that I should only work for a dysfunctional company...?

-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Cerification question


Well, I just realized that my three current favorites really aren't
chick flicks, so maybe I misspoke.  But there's no Monty Python, so...

1.  Dogma
2. Apollo 13
3.  12 Angry Men

They may up my estrogen allotment when they find out about this,
though...

- Original Message -
From: Randal, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: Cerification question


Go on, tell  us, and we can put it to the test :-)

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK

 -Original Message-
 From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 02 May 2002 16:05
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Cerification question


 That is so not fair.  I doubt that my three favorite movies
 would endear
 me to a group of men, who tend to be a bit more, shall we say,
 neandrathal, in their choices.

 M

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RE: Cerification question

2002-05-01 Thread Ray Zorz

Depends on what you want to be when you grow up. 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Smith Thomas
Contr 911 SPTG/SC
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:58 AM
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Subject: Cerification question


There is a big sqaubble about the best certification to get( and this was
being discussed at Ohio State) That if you was going to get any type of
certification EXCHANGE IS NOT THE ONE to get, Cisco is the premier
certification.One of the speakers was telling a senior class this before
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RE: Cerification question

2002-05-01 Thread Ray Zorz

You, and others on this list, have for whatever reason been able to get past
this certification ceiling because someone liked your personality, took a
chance on you, and you were able to successfully run with it.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Miller
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


I have yet to pick up an exchange or Cisco Book. Infact I was given my
first exchange book just yesterday by a friend. Have not had the time to
read them. Yet I have worked with installs as large 30,000 users in
exchange, As a hired consultant. Yesterday I added a few new T1's to a
few of the 100's of routers the company I work for, as a day job, owns.
I am solely responsible for all of those routers as well the rest of the
network and a 5,000 user install of Exchange.

Books and paper mean very little... Would you hire a paper MCSE over me?
Would you hire someone who could Quote the OSI model over me? Why
memorize what I have one the wall and in Text files.

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gordon Olson
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


They had very little experience, and I asked them what the last book
they read and neither could name a book- would you hire them?  But you
are right, I could use some education, no denying that.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


So to you the lack of a MCSE means they werent interested in educating
themselves? Sheesh.
Sounds like you need some education yourself.


-Original Message-
From: Gordon Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


That guy is a knucklehead. The Best Cert is the one you need or help
you do your job better. That is the best cert. I have a CCNP and CCDP
and I really do not work in that industry. I really am an admin working
with M$, Cisco, Citrix, Unix etc I studied the Cisco stuff because
we were converting from x.25 to frame relay and I wanted to do it so I
asked the company to give me a shot. I used the knowledge again when we
switched to NVPN. My only point is that the Certs were about what I
needed to improve my skill set.

I had to hire a guy recently (echoing Lori and Ray) and I hired the guy
that had very little Practical experience but he did have an MCSE. I
thought that at least showed that he wanted to learn. I interviewed a
few others that had more experience and never took the time to educate
themselves in their chosen craft.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


Don't invite that speaker again.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Cerification question


There is a big sqaubble about the best certification to get( and this
was being discussed at Ohio State) That if you was going to get any type
of certification EXCHANGE IS NOT THE ONE to get, Cisco is the premier
certification.One of the speakers was telling a senior class this before
graduation starts. Do anyone agree with that or does it make a
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RE: Cerification question

2002-05-01 Thread Ray Zorz

Very good points. 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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You people talk like you can't have both. Sure there are some paper MCSEs
out there but there are also many MCSEs that have mucho experience.  Most
hiring managers, all things being equal will look at experience first
but... then certs.  Additionally while experience is the best there are
people that have worked in one environment for so long that they know
NOTHING about any other capabilities of the hardware/software.  They are
nearly as bad as the paper MSCE because the scope of their knowledge is so
very limited and because of their experience think the only way to run a
network is the way they did it at their last job.  At least the Paper boyz
know they are limited, are willing to learn, cost half as much and don't
cause half the drama the experience guy does.  They piss me off so much
more, that and they usually have no idea as to WHY their last network was
set up that way but that it is just the best way.  Experience is NOT
always the best qualifier either

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RE: Cerification question

2002-05-01 Thread Ray Zorz

I saw your haircut, so the answer would be no. 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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It is all about having good hair?? 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ray Zorz
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


You, and others on this list, have for whatever reason been able to get
past this certification ceiling because someone liked your personality,
took a chance on you, and you were able to successfully run with it.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Miller
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


I have yet to pick up an exchange or Cisco Book. Infact I was given my
first exchange book just yesterday by a friend. Have not had the time to
read them. Yet I have worked with installs as large 30,000 users in
exchange, As a hired consultant. Yesterday I added a few new T1's to a
few of the 100's of routers the company I work for, as a day job, owns.
I am solely responsible for all of those routers as well the rest of the
network and a 5,000 user install of Exchange.

Books and paper mean very little... Would you hire a paper MCSE over me?
Would you hire someone who could Quote the OSI model over me? Why
memorize what I have one the wall and in Text files.

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gordon Olson
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


They had very little experience, and I asked them what the last book
they read and neither could name a book- would you hire them?  But you
are right, I could use some education, no denying that.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


So to you the lack of a MCSE means they werent interested in educating
themselves? Sheesh. Sounds like you need some education yourself.


-Original Message-
From: Gordon Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


That guy is a knucklehead. The Best Cert is the one you need or help
you do your job better. That is the best cert. I have a CCNP and CCDP
and I really do not work in that industry. I really am an admin working
with M$, Cisco, Citrix, Unix etc I studied the Cisco stuff because
we were converting from x.25 to frame relay and I wanted to do it so I
asked the company to give me a shot. I used the knowledge again when we
switched to NVPN. My only point is that the Certs were about what I
needed to improve my skill set.

I had to hire a guy recently (echoing Lori and Ray) and I hired the guy
that had very little Practical experience but he did have an MCSE. I
thought that at least showed that he wanted to learn. I interviewed a
few others that had more experience and never took the time to educate
themselves in their chosen craft.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


Don't invite that speaker again.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Cerification question


There is a big sqaubble about the best certification to get( and this
was being discussed at Ohio State) That if you was going to get any type
of certification EXCHANGE IS NOT THE ONE to get, Cisco is the premier
certification.One of the speakers was telling a senior class this before
graduation starts. Do anyone agree with that or does it make a
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RE: Cerification question

2002-05-01 Thread Ray Zorz

I know a couple others already.  It could be a technical witches coven.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Florea
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:24 PM
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Cool.  You should create a course and offer a cert in it...I'd sign up!


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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No shit.  Most of these companies don't know that many of us don't have
certs, but are most definitely the best person for the job.  It is their
loss.

never took the time to educate themselves in their chosen craft.

Bullshit.  I am fully versed in witchcraft.

-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Cerification question


Shiminy.  I was with ya until you hired the MCSE instead of me.
- Original Message -
From: Gordon Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:29 PM
Subject: RE: Cerification question


That guy is a knucklehead. The Best Cert is the one you need or help
you
do your job better. That is the best cert. I have a CCNP and CCDP and I
really do not work in that industry. I really am an admin working with
M$,
Cisco, Citrix, Unix etc I studied the Cisco stuff because we were
converting from x.25 to frame relay and I wanted to do it so I asked the
company to give me a shot. I used the knowledge again when we switched
to
NVPN. My only point is that the Certs were about what I needed to
improve my
skill set.

I had to hire a guy recently (echoing Lori and Ray) and I hired the guy
that
had very little Practical experience but he did have an MCSE. I thought
that
at least showed that he wanted to learn. I interviewed a few others that
had
more experience and never took the time to educate themselves in their
chosen craft.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


Don't invite that speaker again.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Cerification question


There is a big sqaubble about the best certification to get( and this
was
being discussed at Ohio State) That if you was going to get any type of
certification EXCHANGE IS NOT THE ONE to get, Cisco is the premier
certification.One of the speakers was telling a senior class this before
graduation starts. Do anyone agree with that or does it make a
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RE: Cerification question

2002-05-01 Thread Ray Zorz

The answer is: Kelly Borndale

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Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:11 PM
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Subject: RE: Cerification question


I'll take teasers for $200 Alex.


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Even with studying and knowing the material on the cert exams doesn't
guarantee that one will be able to apply said knowledge to reall life
system administration problems.  I would rather give someone a brain teaser
and see how their brain works, rather than see a cert.

~
-K.Borndale
IT Manager
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
One man's ceiling is another man's floor




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  Please respond to

  Exchange Discussions









Certs are not a sign of competency.  They just mean that the person is
capable of memorizing braindumps.  I interviewed MCSEs that answered the
question Explain your NT domain structure in your previous job with an
answer like We had ATM coming to the back of our PCs.  You've got to be
careful with MCSEs that come with huge resumes.  There are some ways you
can
tell if they're good or not though.  For example if the candidate writes
MCSE with a larger font than his own name, you probably have a clueless
wall-licker in your hands.

If a person doesn't have certification, it means that he/she has not sat
through the tests.  That person can be the most knowledgeable guy out
there.


Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Gordon Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:29 PM
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That guy is a knucklehead. The Best Cert is the one you need or help you
do your job better. That is the best cert. I have a CCNP and CCDP and I
really do not work in that industry. I really am an admin working with M$,
Cisco, Citrix, Unix etc I studied the Cisco stuff because we were
converting from x.25 to frame relay and I wanted to do it so I asked the
company to give me a shot. I used the knowledge again when we switched to
NVPN. My only point is that the Certs were about what I needed to improve
my
skill set.

I had to hire a guy recently (echoing Lori and Ray) and I hired the guy
that
had very little Practical experience but he did have an MCSE. I thought
that
at least showed that he wanted to learn. I interviewed a few others that
had
more experience and never took the time to educate themselves in their
chosen craft.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


Don't invite that speaker again.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:58 PM
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Subject: Cerification question


There is a big sqaubble about the best certification to get( and this was
being discussed at Ohio State) That if you was going to get any type of
certification EXCHANGE IS NOT THE ONE to get, Cisco is the premier
certification.One of the speakers was telling a senior class this before
graduation starts. Do anyone agree with that or does it make a difference?

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RE: List or one of its members has some BAS

2002-04-30 Thread Ray Zorz

Perhaps someone changed his internal chip.

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Wow Bruce, I didn't know you used slang words like ain't.
This is like hearing Data use a contraction when he speaks! ;)


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Importance: High


It ain't just you ..

Martin

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Ray Zorz

MG came close though. Their cars wouldn't start. 

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Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:37 PM
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Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And no car manufacturer has made a car yet that will not crash

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Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Well, Microsoft has not designed a fix yet that will cure all the
problems.

-Original Message-
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Rebooting servers periodically is not a solution; it is just burying
your head in the sand and pretending everything is fine.  If that is
acceptable/expected quality of service in your environment, then I guess
it's ok.

Serdar Soysal


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RE: Virus Question

2002-04-18 Thread Ray Zorz

I got a couple too. 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christopher
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Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Virus Question


This morning I received the following e-mail:

-Original Message-
From: ANTIGEN_PELLIG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:55 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Antigen Notification:Antigen found VIRUS= VHP-361
(CA(InoculateIT)) virus


Antigen for Exchange found Body of Message infected with VIRUS= VHP-361
(CA(InoculateIT)) virus.
The file is currently Cleaned.  The message, RE: SMTP message size
limits, was sent from Christopher Hummert and was discovered in PINK,
Nathaniel\Inbox located at FPM Netops/FPMMAIL/PELLIG.

-End of Original Message-


Now I've checked around and I've failed to find any information about
this virus, furthermore even with our most recent updates to Norton
Antivirus Corporate Edition it didn't find anything either. Does anyone
thing this is something I should worry about or does anyone know what
this virus is?

-Chris



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RE: NT 4.0 Clients and Exchange 2000

2002-04-18 Thread Ray Zorz

Perhaps WINS was the reason for questioning. 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Winzenz
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:03 AM
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Subject: RE: NT 4.0 Clients and Exchange 2000


Hope you're not trying to imply that an NT 4.0 client can't be part of a
native mode domain . . . Pardon me if I misread your comment.

James Winzenz, MCSE, A+
Associate Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Jerzy Setmajer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: NT 4.0 Clients and Exchange 2000


Recommend reading description of what NATIVE MODE means
 
 From: John Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2002/04/17 Wed PM 04:26:42 EDT
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: NT 4.0 Clients and Exchange 2000
 
 I have NO IDEA why...my NT workstation clients cannot connect to 
 Exchange 2000.  I have name resolution for both WINS and DNS and even 
 got so desperate as to put entries in the LMHOSTS and HOSTS files!
 
 Win2k Machines connect no problem.
 
 I am in native mode.
 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated
 
 Thanks
 
 John
 
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RE: SMTP message size limits

2002-04-12 Thread Ray Zorz

I never had a limit nor had a problem.  But we were sending lots of graphics
files. As Martin said, it's a company-by-company decision.

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Blackstone
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Subject: RE: SMTP message size limits


15MB...
I think that is an ideal size. But you need to base it on your companies
needs. As an example at a multimedia company, 15MB may be way too small.

But here, 15MB is just fine.

-Original Message-
From: Moore, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SMTP message size limits


I am being hammered by management on restricting SMTP message limits to
15MB. What limit are you using?

Thanks,

Jim Moore
Systems Engineer / DBA
Saint Luke's Hospital
Voice: 816.932.6990

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RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Ray Zorz

Is this the 6'4 built-like-a-NFL-linebacker Mr. Seielstad you're talking
about?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Hampshire
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


The talented and ever popular Mr. Seielstad is neither my boss, nor a
C-Level exec. And he has graduated beyond SSM status. He can actually get
dressed all by himself now each morning.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


ShavedSeielstad.exe?


 Original message 
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:38:20 -0700
From: Doug Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Full access
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-
level exec's
mailboxes then.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best
practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for
day to day work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but
that doesn't mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather
those users should
be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the
ability to log into
mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users
possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out
for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Why is this a bad design?

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Asked and answered at least once this week already I
think.
 Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
 particular question implies.

  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
 
 
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access
to
 all PFs and
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?


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RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message.

2002-04-11 Thread Ray Zorz

They were for us too. We even had a never-busy fax service which queued up
incoming faxes in case of problems.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message.


Oh yea. You betcha. We use those new-fangled Facsimile
Machines out here in the Midwest we do.



 Original message 
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 15:04:11 -0500
From: Hunter, Lori [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message.
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You betcha!!

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message.


Fax machines are still considered Mission Critical eh?

 -Original Message-
 From:Hunter, Lori [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:17 PM
 To:  Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email
message.

 I am here to tell you that there is no e in Citi.
Every frigging thing
 is
 on paper.  They won't even use Remedy - they use a fax
machine!

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:24 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message.


 Since you work for a bank, Im betting that you guys still
 type out memos.


  Original message 
 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:16:30 -0400
 From: Schwartz, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email
message.
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I'll use the same argument Doug used for the BCC
question.
 
 How did you prevent someone from taking a typed memo and
 making photocopies
 of it?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Bibel, Laura Y.
 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:08 PM
  To:   Exchange Discussions
  Subject:  RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email
 message.
 
  Ok, let me try this again. If I send a message
 marked private,
  when
  the recipient opens it, he CANNOT modify anything in
the
 message box. He
  CAN
  hit reply or forward, but he CANNOT modify my message
and
 he CANNOT copy
  any
  of my message while composing the reply. I was looking
at
 this only from a
  reply/forward perspective. I just realized that when
the
 recipient opens
  the
  original message, he CAN copy the contents elsewhere.
I
 think that's wierd
  though. It would be nice if you couldn't copy in
either
 read or compose
  mode. I apologize for my error (even though I was
partly
 right, I
  think!!!)
  I feel stupid enough so be nice, ok?
 



  Laura Bibel
  Allegheny Energy: Information Services
  Voice (724) 830-5966 Fax (724) 853-3600
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Daniel Chenault
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:55 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Re: Prevent the forwarding of an email
message.
 
 
  Okay if you say so.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Bibel, Laura Y. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:23 PM
  Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email
message.
 
 
   If the message composed in Outlook is marked
private,
 the contents can't
  be
   copied/pasted.
  
   Laura Bibel
   Allegheny Energy: Information Services
   Voice (724) 830-5966 Fax (724) 853-3600
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Kevin Beron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 3:28 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Prevent the forwarding of an email message.
  
  
   Was wondering if there was a way to prevent someone
 from forwarding the
   email message or any content of the message. (ie
 cutting and pasting to
  a
   new message.
  
   We are using exchange 5.5 server and outlook 97, 98
and
 2000 clients.
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Kevin Beron.
  
 
 

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RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Ray Zorz

I exmerged out of my production box twice to fix corruption problems, both
times per PSS.  No big deal.

 -Original Message-
 From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Full access


 Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use
 exmerge on a production box, and I have a been around
 Exchange for years and years.
 - Original Message -
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge.
 That's when you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for
 day to day work. 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange
 Admins, but that doesn't mean that the rights should be
 applied to that group, rather those users should be part of
 an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the ability to log
 into mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of
 users possible.

 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Why is this a bad design?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
 Q258183.
  I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that particular
 question
  implies.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Full access
  
  
   What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
  all PFs and
   Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
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RE: Restoring an old (no longer existing) server

2002-04-09 Thread Ray Zorz

I suppose you can create another server, and use Exmerge to search.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michel, David
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 12:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Restoring an old (no longer existing) server


As I seem to recall you mentioning once that you USED to work for MS, is it
really fair to expect the same rates as MS Consulting currently charges?  By
the way, I don't think my question was posed in such a way as to require a
step-by-step answer.  I know how to do the restore, I was looking to see if
there was an easier way that I had not thought of and if anyone has been
through a similar process.  I kind of thought that's what these lists were
supposed to be about???

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 3:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Restoring an old (no longer existing) server


I was about to give step-by-step info but realized that that does not put
bread on the table.

My services are available at $225/hr plus TE.

- Original Message -
From: Michel, David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 1:57 PM
Subject: Restoring an old (no longer existing) server


 Current setup:
 - Exchange 2000 sp2 on mailbox servers and a single 5.5 sp4 IMC
 server
 - Currently using NTBackup for backups and Antigen 6.5 for
 virus/content filtering

 I was just informed that, due to a lawsuit, I must restore an old 5.5
server
 that no longer exists and restore the entire database (not brick-level)
for
 a period of about different 8 months.  I have the databases on a month-end
 tape from each of those months and those tapes were made use ArcServe.  I
 also have long since reused that server.  Once the database is restored on
 the new server, I must then go through every email from every user and
 search for text in either the subject AND the body.  After this is done
for
 one month I'm to blow everything away and start all over again with the
next
 month's tape.

 My question is how in the hell am I going to accomplish this?  Building
the
 server and recreating the Exchange environment is easy enough but I'm
 confused on the restore and the searching parts.  If I have to buy
something
 like Trend for the searching I guess it could be done and charged to the
 client but I prefer not to.  As for the backups, since I cannot bring this
 server onto our network and the backup server that has ArcServe is
obviously
 on the network, how do I do this?  My best guess is to use a cross-connect
 cable and bring the backup server offline during the restore time.  Any
 other suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks.

 David Michel
 Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster  Russell, P.A.


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RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware

2002-04-03 Thread Ray Zorz

8 to 5 in IT?  What's wrong with 5pm to 8am to accomplish this?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rowell, John
(AFIT)
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware


No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so
opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings
between 7am and 8am, before users arrive.  That does not give a lot of time
to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time.  Try
moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find
it takes longer than a backup and restore.

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware


 Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a
 Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around
 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would
 likely be only a matter of minutes.

  -Original Message-
  From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
 
 
  Over 500.
 
  Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
  
  
   Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here?
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
  
  
   While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very
 effective, I would
   not discount the backup and restore method, where you do
 the whole
   move within one day.  I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method
   and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to
   move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if
 they are big.
   As a result, recently I used the server move method, and
 had great
   success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner.  I
   wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to
 back out of
   it.
   There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup 
   restore, ii) using off-line backup  restore, and I found the
   latter easier.
  
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
   
   
I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up.
   
Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of
steps to doing it the right way.
   
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
   
   
 -Original Message-
 From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware


 I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new
 hardware.  I am
 restoring from an online backup and will basically install
 everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5,
  Exchange
 Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the
 Information Store and Directory Store.

 Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to
  watch out for?

 Thanks in advance for you help.

 Regards,
 Didy


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RE: Dead Letter Mailbox

2002-04-02 Thread Ray Zorz

Or use the black hole method - create a DL with nobody on the list, and put
the smtp addresses of the departed in the address list. They just disappear.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Matteson
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Dead Letter Mailbox


You can create a Public folder to hold all the NDR's and set a low retention
time, like 2 days. Then they get automagically flushed every time
maintenance runs.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981
Be not afraid of growing slowly, be afraid only of standing still. --Chinese
Proverb



-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Dead Letter Mailbox


Appropriate NDR's forward to Admin Mailbox

-Original Message-
From: Hawkins, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Dead Letter Mailbox


Hi there

Does anyone know of a solution for handling incoming messages that are going
to NDR because the recipient doesn't exist? I would like the NDRs to happen
normally, but also the mail to be forwarded to a 'Dead Letter Office' for
manual processing.

Thanks

Stuart Hawkins
Network Systems Manager
Bovis Homes Limited
Cheltenham, UK
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Fax: 01242 662667
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RE: Delay Outgoing Mail

2002-03-28 Thread Ray Zorz

You set it up once, and it stays that way. This PHB happens to have
technical skills. He could do it himself in a minute.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 7:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


Yes. But I'm sure the PHB CEO doesn't want to have to do this himself.

This would probably be one of those times We have looked into possible
options, and the answer is no on the server side. On the client side you
could do this (show him Rays and Williams methods), or we could bring in a
programming consultant to make OL ask yes or no. What is the budget for this
project?

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 8:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


Can't you delay the sending via Outlook?  Give him a minute, or 5.
Tools-Options-Mail Delivery?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rasey, Dennis
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


Get ready to laugh (I sure did)

Looks like our CEO sent out an e-mail that either he shouldn't have, or
wasn't quite ready to send (hit the Send key by accident, has happened to me
also). Regardless, now I have to look into delaying out-going e-mails so
that we have a chance to intercept it if we encounter this again.

RANT
To be quite honest, even if this is possible, I'm not really thrilled about
implementing it, and I may go as far as saying it's not possible ;) I think
delaying the e-mails would cause other problems that I'm not willing to deal
with, plus I'm sure it would be difficult to delay just out-bound stuff
(versus internal mails), and there is no way folks would take kindly to me
delaying our internal stuff (and it wouldn't matter who 'wanted' it to be
done). /RANT

At this point, I'm curious if this is do-able, but I'm not that worried
about it

Another funny thing is this is the most techno-savvy CEO I've dealt with in
my career. He's also smart enough to know it was %100 his fault (you should
have heard him rag on himself for doing this). Usually we'll get bitched at
for not being able to stop it (i.e. we'll get crap because the e-mail system
works too fast).

I'll shut up now..

Thanks all,
Dennis


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


Jinx.
Pinch, Poke. You owe me a coke.


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 8:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


To attain what goal?  Just curious.


-Original Message-
From: Rasey, Dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Delay Outgoing Mail


I'm trying to find an option to allow us to delay outgoing e-mails.

I'm using Exchange 5.5 (sp4), and I've been asked by one of my superiors to
see about adding in a delay for e-mails going out to the Internet. We would
like to delay those messages about 3-5 minutes. We also would like to NOT
delay internal e-mails (if possible).

Is this possible? If this is possible, any potential problems with this
setup?


Thanks,
Dennis Rasey
Systems Administrator
PDS - Premier Dealer Services
9449 Balboa Ave. Suite 300
San Diego, CA 92123
858-810-1734
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Delay Outgoing Mail

2002-03-28 Thread Ray Zorz

That would work for Milton Dogg, not everyone else. g

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Setmajer, Jerzy
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


Simply putting a checkmark in the always check spelling before sending
could do the trick :=)

(this assumes that the signature has something that is not in the
spellchecker list)

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


You set it up once, and it stays that way. This PHB happens to have
technical skills. He could do it himself in a minute.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 7:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


Yes. But I'm sure the PHB CEO doesn't want to have to do this himself.

This would probably be one of those times We have looked into possible
options, and the answer is no on the server side. On the client side you
could do this (show him Rays and Williams methods), or we could bring in a
programming consultant to make OL ask yes or no. What is the budget for this
project?

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 8:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


Can't you delay the sending via Outlook?  Give him a minute, or 5.
Tools-Options-Mail Delivery?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rasey, Dennis
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


Get ready to laugh (I sure did)

Looks like our CEO sent out an e-mail that either he shouldn't have, or
wasn't quite ready to send (hit the Send key by accident, has happened to me
also). Regardless, now I have to look into delaying out-going e-mails so
that we have a chance to intercept it if we encounter this again.

RANT
To be quite honest, even if this is possible, I'm not really thrilled about
implementing it, and I may go as far as saying it's not possible ;) I think
delaying the e-mails would cause other problems that I'm not willing to deal
with, plus I'm sure it would be difficult to delay just out-bound stuff
(versus internal mails), and there is no way folks would take kindly to me
delaying our internal stuff (and it wouldn't matter who 'wanted' it to be
done). /RANT

At this point, I'm curious if this is do-able, but I'm not that worried
about it

Another funny thing is this is the most techno-savvy CEO I've dealt with in
my career. He's also smart enough to know it was %100 his fault (you should
have heard him rag on himself for doing this). Usually we'll get bitched at
for not being able to stop it (i.e. we'll get crap because the e-mail system
works too fast).

I'll shut up now..

Thanks all,
Dennis


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


Jinx.
Pinch, Poke. You owe me a coke.


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 8:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


To attain what goal?  Just curious.


-Original Message-
From: Rasey, Dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Delay Outgoing Mail


I'm trying to find an option to allow us to delay outgoing e-mails.

I'm using Exchange 5.5 (sp4), and I've been asked by one of my superiors to
see about adding in a delay for e-mails going out to the Internet. We would
like to delay those messages about 3-5 minutes. We also would like to NOT
delay internal e-mails (if possible).

Is this possible? If this is possible, any potential problems with this
setup?


Thanks,
Dennis Rasey
Systems Administrator
PDS - Premier Dealer Services
9449 Balboa Ave. Suite 300
San Diego, CA 92123
858-810-1734
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Delay Outgoing Mail

2002-03-28 Thread Ray Zorz

Really? Tools -Options-Mail Delivery isn't there?  Maybe it's not there in
exchange-mode?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rasey, Dennis
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 10:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


Ray,
Where is this option? I don't have a 'Mail Delivery' tab in my Outlook2K.

Dennis


-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 8:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


Can't you delay the sending via Outlook?  Give him a minute, or 5.
Tools-Options-Mail Delivery?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rasey, Dennis
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


Get ready to laugh (I sure did)

Looks like our CEO sent out an e-mail that either he shouldn't have, or
wasn't quite ready to send (hit the Send key by accident, has happened to me
also).
Regardless, now I have to look into delaying out-going e-mails so that we
have a chance to intercept it if we encounter this again.

RANT
To be quite honest, even if this is possible, I'm not really thrilled about
implementing it, and I may go as far as saying it's not possible ;)
I think delaying the e-mails would cause other problems that I'm not willing
to deal with, plus I'm sure it would be difficult to delay just out-bound
stuff (versus internal mails), and there is no way folks would take kindly
to me delaying our internal stuff (and it wouldn't matter who 'wanted' it to
be done).
/RANT

At this point, I'm curious if this is do-able, but I'm not that worried
about it

Another funny thing is this is the most techno-savvy CEO I've dealt with in
my career. He's also smart enough to know it was %100 his fault (you should
have heard him rag on himself for doing this). Usually we'll get bitched at
for not being able to stop it (i.e. we'll get crap because the e-mail system
works too fast).

I'll shut up now..

Thanks all,
Dennis


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


Jinx.
Pinch, Poke. You owe me a coke.


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 8:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


To attain what goal?  Just curious.


-Original Message-
From: Rasey, Dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Delay Outgoing Mail


I'm trying to find an option to allow us to delay outgoing e-mails.

I'm using Exchange 5.5 (sp4), and I've been asked by one of my superiors to
see about adding in a delay for e-mails going out to the Internet. We would
like to delay those messages about 3-5 minutes.
We also would like to NOT delay internal e-mails (if possible).

Is this possible? If this is possible, any potential problems with this
setup?


Thanks,
Dennis Rasey
Systems Administrator
PDS - Premier Dealer Services
9449 Balboa Ave. Suite 300
San Diego, CA 92123
858-810-1734
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RE: Prep

2002-03-28 Thread Ray Zorz

Not just anybody. CJ.

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Why do people keep saying that?  It is *SO* the opposite.

William

-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:58 PM
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Subject: RE: Prep


I think he said if Exchange 5.5 was cruel, E2K was downright sadistic.

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 3:56 PM
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Subject: RE: Prep


Ok...let's try that again...I'm POST-Mr. Jones.  :o)

Jim Blunt

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:29 PM
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Subject: RE: Prep


Which was?

(Sorry...I'm pre-Mr. Jones)

Jim Blunt

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Subject: RE: Prep


I suspect he is...
Nonetheless, the more I work with E2k, the more I think Mr. Jones was
correct in his initial assessment of it. 


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RE: Prep

2002-03-27 Thread Ray Zorz

It's just Andy being Andy.  Like most of the truly helpful people on the
list, they add a little levity when they can. You need to get over it.

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Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 9:59 AM
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Subject: RE: Prep


You know it would be one thing if he did this only once in
awhile.but every single time I post a question to the list I always
get shit from him..what's his problem? Does he get off on attacking
people he'll never meet?
-Chris

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Daniel
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Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 4:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Prep


My thoughts exactly, but I'll hold back on the plonk. It's always
amusing to watch newbies flounder in the waves.

- Original Message -
From: Thomas Di Nardo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 6:47 PM
Subject: RE: Prep


If there ever was a fast way to get on a kill list, you just found it.
You haven't been here long, and with comments like that (particularly to
Andy), you won't be staying long.

Plunk.

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 3:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Prep

Ha ha.why don't you just keep on topic asshole


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 12:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Prep


Well Sir, you obviously have the writing skills I need to take my show
on the road. My agent will be contacting you.


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 2:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Prep


Ha ha your funny..with your talent why are you in the comedy
industry and not the comic circuit?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Prep


No, that would be fdisk.


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Prep


So you can run it even after the exchange server has been installed?
-Chris

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Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:41 AM
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Subject: RE: Prep


You can run them anytime.

If you have a large enterprise with remote DC's, it's best to leave some
time.

William

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Prep


Can I run Forest and Domain Prep on AD and not install exchange2k until
later?

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RE: Prep

2002-03-27 Thread Ray Zorz

Good point. That's why lurking is a good choice for awhile, and secondly,
never get too upset. Next time you have the urge to say something in anger,
type it up, use lot's of expletives deletives, and press Delete instead of
Send.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christopher
Hummert
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So how the hell was I supposed to know that this guy didn't have
something against me for just being a newbie?


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Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 9:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Prep


It's just Andy being Andy.  Like most of the truly helpful people on the
list, they add a little levity when they can. You need to get over it.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 9:59 AM
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Subject: RE: Prep


You know it would be one thing if he did this only once in
awhile.but every single time I post a question to the list I always
get shit from him..what's his problem? Does he get off on attacking
people he'll never meet? -Chris

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Daniel
Chenault
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 4:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Prep


My thoughts exactly, but I'll hold back on the plonk. It's always
amusing to watch newbies flounder in the waves.

- Original Message -
From: Thomas Di Nardo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 6:47 PM
Subject: RE: Prep


If there ever was a fast way to get on a kill list, you just found it.
You haven't been here long, and with comments like that (particularly to
Andy), you won't be staying long.

Plunk.

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 3:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Prep

Ha ha.why don't you just keep on topic asshole


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 12:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Prep


Well Sir, you obviously have the writing skills I need to take my show
on the road. My agent will be contacting you.


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 2:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Prep


Ha ha your funny..with your talent why are you in the comedy
industry and not the comic circuit?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Prep


No, that would be fdisk.


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Prep


So you can run it even after the exchange server has been installed?
-Chris

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Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:41 AM
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Subject: RE: Prep


You can run them anytime.

If you have a large enterprise with remote DC's, it's best to leave some
time.

William

-Original Message-
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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Prep


Can I run Forest and Domain Prep on AD and not install exchange2k until
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RE: Delay Outgoing Mail

2002-03-27 Thread Ray Zorz

Can't you delay the sending via Outlook?  Give him a minute, or 5.
Tools-Options-Mail Delivery?

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rasey, Dennis
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


Get ready to laugh (I sure did)

Looks like our CEO sent out an e-mail that either he shouldn't have, or
wasn't quite ready to send (hit the Send key by accident, has happened to me
also).
Regardless, now I have to look into delaying out-going e-mails so that we
have a chance to intercept it if we encounter this again.

RANT
To be quite honest, even if this is possible, I'm not really thrilled about
implementing it, and I may go as far as saying it's not possible ;)
I think delaying the e-mails would cause other problems that I'm not willing
to deal with, plus I'm sure it would be difficult to delay just out-bound
stuff (versus internal mails), and there is no way folks would take kindly
to me delaying our internal stuff (and it wouldn't matter who 'wanted' it to
be done).
/RANT

At this point, I'm curious if this is do-able, but I'm not that worried
about it

Another funny thing is this is the most techno-savvy CEO I've dealt with in
my career. He's also smart enough to know it was %100 his fault (you should
have heard him rag on himself for doing this). Usually we'll get bitched at
for not being able to stop it (i.e. we'll get crap because the e-mail system
works too fast).

I'll shut up now..

Thanks all,
Dennis


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


Jinx.
Pinch, Poke. You owe me a coke.


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 8:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delay Outgoing Mail


To attain what goal?  Just curious.


-Original Message-
From: Rasey, Dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Delay Outgoing Mail


I'm trying to find an option to allow us to delay outgoing e-mails.

I'm using Exchange 5.5 (sp4), and I've been asked by one of my superiors to
see about adding in a delay for e-mails going out to the Internet. We would
like to delay those messages about 3-5 minutes.
We also would like to NOT delay internal e-mails (if possible).

Is this possible? If this is possible, any potential problems with this
setup?


Thanks,
Dennis Rasey
Systems Administrator
PDS - Premier Dealer Services
9449 Balboa Ave. Suite 300
San Diego, CA 92123
858-810-1734
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RE: Authentication issues

2002-03-26 Thread Ray Zorz

Perhaps Double-take on the www.sunbelt-software.com list. 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bravo, Liliana
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 1:00 PM
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Subject: RE: Authentication issues
Importance: High


Hi Folks,

We are looking for any software or idea for to create one image of my
Exchange Server. We want to prevent if my exchange Server is unavailble or
failed it can be recover with all my data completed.
We want tohave the data update on line automatically on the image(like
replication) without data loss.

Do you know about any software that permit it us ?

Thanks in Advance.

Liliana 

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RE: Groups and such

2002-03-19 Thread Ray Zorz

Only if they're on the endangered species list. 

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Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 1:33 PM
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Subject: Groups and such


How do you experienced Exchange Admins feel about nesting groups within
Exchange 5.5?

 
 
 
 
Joshua Morgan
PROFITLAB
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RE: Can exchange 5.5 be set up as a list server?

2002-03-18 Thread Ray Zorz

You get to join the secret cabal.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Can exchange 5.5 be set up as a list server?


I know.. I KNOW!!
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxj.htm

What did I win?

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Can exchange 5.5 be set up as a list server?


Any idea where I can find a comprehensive list of attachments I could block
from entering my exchange server, assuming I have an application that will
do such?


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Can exchange 5.5 be set up as a list server?


You are my hero.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Can exchange 5.5 be set up as a list server?


It doesn't really make a good list server, but there are applications that
will help.  Such as: http://www.ikakura.com/

Others include:
www.lyris.com
www.lsoft.com

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+

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Can exchange 5.5 be set up as a list server?
I was told it is possible with some plug-ins. If so were can the plug-ins be
found?

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RE: How to delete a mailbox (manually)

2002-03-18 Thread Ray Zorz

/Kramer
I'm out!
/Kramer

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 2:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How to delete a mailbox (manually)


I rule nothing.
But I am the master of my own domain.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 4:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How to delete a mailbox (manually)


Thou wouldst not even dare to commit such a treasonous act! I have in my
possession an official Letter of Marque from the good and noble Prince
Andy, joint ruler of this list and all that he can see from his computer
chair.

Now, shouldst thou wish to join young John in walking the plank, that can
be arranged good sir.

 That sounds like a simple solution. So simple in fact that there is no
 way that it could work. You sir are out of line for even suggesting it.

 Now play nice, before I go after your other eye and mark my territory.

 Milton R Dogg
 Of The Dogg Foundation..


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 Hmmm...well, here's a stupid thought.

 How about highlight it and hit the delete key?

  I have a mailbox that has no account associated with it.
  When I run clean up agent I does not mark the account for deletion,
  how can I delete it?
 
 
  - John Q

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RE: Splitting up emails to multiple recipients

2002-03-16 Thread Ray Zorz

How about Mail Merge?  That should send out 1 per recipient.   

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Subject: Splitting up emails to multiple recipients


Hello,

I have some people who want to send out one-time mailings to a few
hundred recipients. They don't want to go through the effort of setting
up a listserv, however. One of our main recipient domains has a limit of
100 recipients max per email. So, when we send out these mass emails,
they get stuck in our queue (they're rejected by the server receiving
the emails), and it clogs up the works.

I've been told by some other SMTP admins that ESMTP supports splitting
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recipient per message. I realize that mailing list software does this as
well, but does Exchange 2000 support this feature?

Any other thoughts about how to get around this issue?

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RE: Building an Exchange 5.5 server

2002-03-16 Thread Ray Zorz

You don't need no stinkin docs.  If you push everything out to a local PST,
won't your backups run faster?  Look at all the time, disk space and tape
you'll save.  Isn't that IT's mission, to do more with less?

Sheesh. Exchange rookies.

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Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 10:13 AM
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Subject: RE: Building an Exchange 5.5 server


Do you have any documentation to back that up. I personally think you
are wrong. How can Exchange work if you don’t take it offline and run a
defrag? PSTS are the default so they must be good.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Verio can Burn in hell, While Qwest.net can bite my ARSE


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Akerlund, Scott
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 8:50 AM
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Subject: RE: Building an Exchange 5.5 server


Fair...

Turn off circular logging, put the mail from the users pst's back in the
information store as that is why it exists, turn on the deleted recovery
dumpster for at least 10 days, and lastly I wish you the best with
Arcserve for backups.

Have a great weekend.
I am going home now.  :o)

footnote:

1 PST=BAD
2 Arcserve = BAD  get BackupExec for Veritas instead.

as per the majority of users on this List.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 8:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Building an Exchange 5.5 server


Yahoo groups goes down, and all of the offline comedy gets focused here.
This is going to be a fun weekend.

OK I have a new server that I just installed, I turned on circular
loggined, run eseutil every Friday, then ghost the server to have a
backup. I have 800 users all with PSTs, all of them are stored on the
email server, how am I doing with my first exchange install. I just
bought Arcserve and inoculateIT --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Verio can Burn in hell, While Qwest.net can bite my ARSE


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Edgington,
Jeffrey
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 6:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Building an Exchange 5.5 server


If you fake it, Dell will break it, then you will yell.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 8:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Building an Exchange 5.5 server


If you want to fake it, buy a Dell.


-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 9:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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If you break it, they will yell.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 6:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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If you build it, they will come.


-Original Message-
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Anyone know of any good sites (besides TechNet) for getting some info
on building an Exchange server.

Thanks

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RE: Splitting up emails to multiple recipients

2002-03-16 Thread Ray Zorz

I dunno. I didn't mess with it too much. But you have to have the e-mail
addresses somewhere.
We used www.gammadyne.com mailer instead.

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Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 10:52 AM
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Isn't mail merge only for word and excel documents? Can I mail merge
into an email?

Also, is there any way to do this on the server side, so that users
don't have to remember to do the mail merge (and so that I don't have to
show them how?)

Thanks

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Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 10:17 AM
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Subject: RE: Splitting up emails to multiple recipients

How about Mail Merge?  That should send out 1 per recipient.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 12:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Splitting up emails to multiple recipients


Hello,

I have some people who want to send out one-time mailings to a few
hundred recipients. They don't want to go through the effort of setting
up a listserv, however. One of our main recipient domains has a limit of
100 recipients max per email. So, when we send out these mass emails,
they get stuck in our queue (they're rejected by the server receiving
the emails), and it clogs up the works.

I've been told by some other SMTP admins that ESMTP supports splitting
up an email to multiple recipients into individual messages, with one
recipient per message. I realize that mailing list software does this as
well, but does Exchange 2000 support this feature?

Any other thoughts about how to get around this issue?

Thanks in advance


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RE: eseutil /d

2002-03-15 Thread Ray Zorz

I remember an excellent explanation of how this will actually hurt Exchange
performance by one of the Ed's.  I saved it, then lost it somehow. Maybe
someone still has it.

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Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 10:54 AM
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Subject: RE: eseutil /d


Try reading Jim McBee's book - Exchange 247.  It talks about this very
issue.  Basically, it comes down to the view, from my reading, that if it
ain't broke - leave it alone.  If you aren't seeing any errors in the Event
logs that clue you into a problem with the databases don't go begging for
trouble - you are likely to find it.

All the best in your battle with your coworkers.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

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 Subject:  eseutil /d

 I have some team members here that believe that regular defragmentation
 (offline) should be done as routine maintenance.  I don't share this
 opinion, but I am having a hard time finding evidence to support my
 belief.  Does anyone know of any links that support the theory that
 eseutil should not be used for regular maintenance or am I wrong and
 should it be part of regular maintenance?

 Exchange 5.5 environment.

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RE: Can exchange 5.5 be set up as a list server?

2002-03-14 Thread Ray Zorz

Just use *.*

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William
Lefkovics
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Can exchange 5.5 be set up as a list server?


Any idea where I can find a comprehensive list of attachments I could block
from entering my exchange server, assuming I have an application that will
do such?


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Can exchange 5.5 be set up as a list server?


You are my hero.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Can exchange 5.5 be set up as a list server?


It doesn't really make a good list server, but there are applications that
will help.  Such as: http://www.ikakura.com/

Others include:
www.lyris.com
www.lsoft.com

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+

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Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Can exchange 5.5 be set up as a list server?


Can exchange 5.5 be set up as a list server?
I was told it is possible with some plug-ins. If so were can the plug-ins be
found?

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RE: Exchange and Mac client

2002-02-20 Thread Ray Zorz

You shouldn't need a HOST file.  I sure don't remember setting one up on the
MAC when we bought a new one, and I sure didn't change anything when we
changed IP addresses.

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no, but if you changed the IP address of your Exchange server, you'll have
to
change that record on the HOST file on the Mac, I bet...

-- Drew

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You don't promote the cause of peace by talking only to people with whom
you
agree. - Dwight David Eisenhower

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I use pacbell,s DNS and I don't have any problem with any other pc clients.
Do they have to ad an MX record for this client alone.

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Subject: RE: Exchange and Mac client




Could be A DNS problem. Maybe you need to add an MX record to your DNS

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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange and Mac client


I have exchange 5.5 and recently I had to reinstall the server. I have one
Mac client and I can send e-mail inside my lan or receive mail from
outside my lan but I can not send e-mail outside the lan.
Can anybody help.
Thank you.

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RE: My Salary(exchange)

2002-02-17 Thread Ray Zorz

Does that mean yes?

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Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 7:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: My Salary(exchange)


Ah... now there's the rub, is it not? Are we to seek and achieve a certain
milestone and, in so doing, look around and say, This is good and there
cease our labors? Or are we to continue to endeavor to find happiness
throughout a continuous journey? Mayhaps some combination serves best in
that one may enjoy the best of both whilst not being burdened with either
for not only is ceaseless work less of a joy so to is the ennui of the idle.

- Original Message -
From: Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: My Salary(exchange)


 But more importantly, are you happy?

 - Original Message -
 From: Daniel Chenault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 3:01 PM
 Subject: Re: My Salary(exchange)


  I'm not working.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Tony Hlabse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 1:47 PM
  Subject: Re: My Salary(exchange)
 
 
   Be happy your working
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Daniel Chenault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 10:58 AM
   Subject: Re: My Salary(exchange)
  
  
Based on his English usage and the way he phrased his question I'd
 wager
that Mark is not in America. It's really difficult to make salary
comparisons across borders. Hell, it's hard to do it within
borders -
  the
cost of living in San Francisco is demonstrably higher than, say,
 Tyler,
Texas. It would be difficult to compare salaries between those two
locations.
   
- Original Message -
From: Slinger, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 2:44 AM
Subject: RE: My Salary(exchange)
   
   
 However, Rocky is overpaid, regardless of what he earns, and
doesn't
   work,
 so ignore that.

 1) Your question seemed to be in reasonable English, but either
your
 grammar/spelling or your typing needs some work.  Go see how much
 that
adds
 to your salary.

 2) Try somewhere productive like http://www.salary.com

 3) Think about it - number of servers is completely irrelevant.
 We'd
   need
 to know what kind of work you actually do with those servers,
where
   you're
 located, what training/experience you have, what industry you're
in,
 comparative rates for your location, localized inflation rates,
etc.

 4) All of which would be more suited for a Human Resources
 discussion
list,
 not a FRIGGIN' EXCHANGE TECHNICAL LIST!

 G.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rocky Stefano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 01:07
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: My Salary(exchange)


 If you're doing this by yourself you're a little underpaid and a
  little
 overworked.



 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark
 Vidmarka
 Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 8:31 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: My Salary(exchange)


 Hi All,

 I was wondring what the average salary was for Admins.
 My salary is about $45,000 US Dollars
 In my position i have to look after the following
 6 Exchange servers
 4 sql Servers
 2 mailsweepers
 25 Various NT Servers
 6 Unix boxes, running Solaris 2 and 7  2 of the boxes
 are used for Raptor (Load balanced) and the res is for
 banking system.There are also 200 NT 4 Clients.

 I dont just bay sit the SQL servers.

 Thanks in advance

 Mark


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RE: My Salary(exchange)

2002-02-17 Thread Ray Zorz

I'm still working on figuring out what he said.

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Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 9:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: My Salary(exchange)


I was just thinking the same thing...

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 8:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: My Salary(exchange)


Ah... now there's the rub, is it not? Are we to seek and achieve a certain
milestone and, in so doing, look around and say, This is good and there
cease our labors? Or are we to continue to endeavor to find happiness
throughout a continuous journey? Mayhaps some combination serves best in
that one may enjoy the best of both whilst not being burdened with either
for not only is ceaseless work less of a joy so to is the ennui of the idle.

- Original Message -
From: Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: My Salary(exchange)


 But more importantly, are you happy?

 - Original Message -
 From: Daniel Chenault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 3:01 PM
 Subject: Re: My Salary(exchange)


  I'm not working.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Tony Hlabse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 1:47 PM
  Subject: Re: My Salary(exchange)
 
 
   Be happy your working
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Daniel Chenault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 10:58 AM
   Subject: Re: My Salary(exchange)
  
  
Based on his English usage and the way he phrased his question I'd
 wager
that Mark is not in America. It's really difficult to make salary
comparisons across borders. Hell, it's hard to do it within
borders -
  the
cost of living in San Francisco is demonstrably higher than, say,
 Tyler,
Texas. It would be difficult to compare salaries between those two
locations.
   
- Original Message -
From: Slinger, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 2:44 AM
Subject: RE: My Salary(exchange)
   
   
 However, Rocky is overpaid, regardless of what he earns, and
doesn't
   work,
 so ignore that.

 1) Your question seemed to be in reasonable English, but either
your
 grammar/spelling or your typing needs some work.  Go see how much
 that
adds
 to your salary.

 2) Try somewhere productive like http://www.salary.com

 3) Think about it - number of servers is completely irrelevant.
 We'd
   need
 to know what kind of work you actually do with those servers,
where
   you're
 located, what training/experience you have, what industry you're
in,
 comparative rates for your location, localized inflation rates,
etc.

 4) All of which would be more suited for a Human Resources
 discussion
list,
 not a FRIGGIN' EXCHANGE TECHNICAL LIST!

 G.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rocky Stefano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 01:07
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: My Salary(exchange)


 If you're doing this by yourself you're a little underpaid and a
  little
 overworked.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark
 Vidmarka
 Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 8:31 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: My Salary(exchange)


 Hi All,

 I was wondring what the average salary was for Admins.
 My salary is about $45,000 US Dollars
 In my position i have to look after the following
 6 Exchange servers
 4 sql Servers
 2 mailsweepers
 25 Various NT Servers
 6 Unix boxes, running Solaris 2 and 7  2 of the boxes
 are used for Raptor (Load balanced) and the res is for
 banking system.There are also 200 NT 4 Clients.

 I dont just bay sit the SQL servers.

 Thanks in advance

 Mark


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RE: VBA In Outlook 2002 to replace Rules Wizard

2002-02-14 Thread Ray Zorz

go to www.slipstick.com for all things Outlook. Sue has a developers group.

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Subject: VBA In Outlook 2002 to replace Rules Wizard


Folks, I just want to replace my rules wizard with my own VBA code.
Simply want to trigger an event when a message arrives and do filtering
based mostly on the To: line.  I want to move certain messages to
certain folders, etc.  Nothing too complicated but I can't seem to find
any clear info that rings a bell for me.  I am a VB programmer but
definitely not used to the VBA (object) model in dealing with Outlook.

Any help / advise would be appreciated

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RE: Utility to save attachments

2002-02-08 Thread Ray Zorz

Doesn't veritas offer something like that?  Not sure if it's configurable
down to the individual mailboxes though - I think it's all or nothing.

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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 7:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Utility to save attachments


Well, good luck with that then!


-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 8:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Utility to save attachments


Preferably something that will not be client side dependent.

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 8:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Utility to save attachments

Outlook? SlipStick!




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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 8:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Utility to save attachments


Hi all,

Does anyone know of an application that will remove all attachments for a
particular mailbox and save them to a defined location? Preferably something
that will not be client side dependent. It kind of has to be a service that
runs in the back ground. TIA

Ed

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RE: Anyone else get Spammed directly by this goon?

2002-02-06 Thread Ray Zorz

Exchange is where you go to change euros into dollars.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joyce, Louis
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 3:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Anyone else get Spammed directly by this goon?


Neither did I and I got it.

What's Exchange?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Network Support Analyst
Exchange Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: QUINN, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 06 February 2002 10:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Anyone else get Spammed directly by this goon?


I never went to MEC01 and I got it

-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 February 2002 22:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Anyone else get Spammed directly by this goon?


I did;  I just assumed it was marketing drivel from MEC01.  



 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:32 PM
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RE: Procomm and Exchange

2002-02-06 Thread Ray Zorz

to follow that star

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 7:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Procomm and Exchange


What is your quest?


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Procomm and Exchange


And how many restores did you do from that configuration?

How often did you get a corrupt DB?

Were you able to restore to a different machine?

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:59 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Procomm and Exchange


 No not at all we even wrote custom scripts to do snapshots
 and get and instant picture of the Exchange DB




 Joshua Morgan
 PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133
 Fax: (413) 581-4936
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 -Original Message-
 From: Dennis Depp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:05 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Procomm and Exchange


 Joshua,

 Did you have any problems with running Exchange on a NetApps box?

 Denny

 At 03:24 PM 2/5/2002 -0500, Morgan, Joshua wrote:
 I have run that type of environment but instead of Procom
 we had it on
 a NetApps box
 
 
 
 
 Joshua Morgan
 PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133
 Fax: (413) 581-4936
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 -Original Message-
 From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 2:51 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Procomm and Exchange
 
 
 We have that environment.
 Yes, MS said don't do it, but Procom said it's OK
 What else do you want to know?
 
 - Original Message -
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 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:48 AM
 Subject: Procomm and Exchange
 
 I was wondering if anyone has put their exchange production
   environment on a Procomm NAS device.  I know, I know, NAS is not
   supported but Procomm claims that MS supports them on
 exchange.  I
   just want to find out if someone uses it for Exchange.  Thanks!
  
  
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RE: The day after superbowl

2002-02-05 Thread Ray Zorz

I'll have to take your word for it.  I've only barely watched a few aussie
rules football games on TV. Keep in mind part the padding is just as much a
weapon as it is for protection. My point about taking the hit is the Rugby
Union guy might not get back up.

The World Football league plays during the summer in several European
cities, and seems to be getting more popular.  Each team is mandated to have
a few local players, so I assume there are local tryouts. I'm also guessing
that rugby players would try, and that local reporters would get their
impressions.  AFAIK, none of them excel, even though our game is very
simple, nice and slow, and has all that padding.



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glenn Corbett
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: The day after superbowl


Ray,

Well possibly that could be a good / bad thing (not knowing who Ray Lewis or
Levon Kirkland are), but they would hit you a few times, then have to go and
have a lie down. A Rugby Union player can keep it up all day, and with FAR
less padding ;)

I agree that some specialisation is a good idea, but come on. To quote your
other post Best of the best.  Kind of like hiring an Exchange admin as
opposed to just a network admin. Well granted, but using your analogy, you
would need 10 exchange admins, one to fire up the console, another to create
a recipient, another to create a public folder, yet another to stop and
start the store, and need I go on ? Since I dont follow the sport at all
that may be an unfair comparison, but it seems to me that level of
specialisation is just plain wrong. Having one guy who's sole job it is to
kick the little ball through the posts seems rather pointless.

*shrug*

Glenn

- Original Message -
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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 2:45 PM
Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


 Yeah well MINIMUM wage in the NFL is about $220,000/yr.  And perhaps those
 tough guys ought to put the pads on and take a hit from Ray Lewis or Levon
 Kirkland.

 In the early days of the NFL, many players did play offense and defense.
But
 as the game became more popular, it also became more sophisticated, and as
 such lead to specialization.  The idea is it's the best of the best doing
 what they do best - run, catch, block, hit, throw.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glenn Corbett
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:33 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: The day after superbowl


 I think the reason more Aussies dont try is that American football is
right
 down near the bottom of the list of career choices. Soccer (Real
Football),
 Aussie Rules, Rugby Union, Basketball, Rugby League, Baseball, and even
 Cricket (possibly even Curling) are above American Football.

 Aussie rules is a bit of a wierd game, sort of a cross between soccer
 (strategy) and rugby (voilence). Its those damn tight shorts I think. I
dont
 want to spend my weekend looking at lots of men running around in tight
 shorts *shudder*.

 Basically the yanks are seen as wimpy for putting on all that padding
before
 playing a game of footy. Rugby League (whilst I cant be called a fan),
has
 about 1/4 the padding of AF, but the tackles are as equally violent.

 Also those breaks seem to interrupt the flow of the game IMHO damn, we
ran
 10 yards, better stop for a few minutes to compose ourselves.  Oh, and
 whats the deal with that ghey dancing when they score a touchdown ? Are
they
 surprised they managed to make it to the end of the field without a map ??
I
 can understand the carrying on with soccer, since goals are few and far
 between (typically). And why do they have an Defensive and Offensive team,
 cant the Americans manage to do both ?

 :)

 Glenn
 Australian by Choice

 - Original Message -
 From: Ray Zorz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:55 AM
 Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


  I dunno how that would be.  While I appreciate Aussie rules football as
a
  game, there seems to be more effort to not have the bone-jarring
 collisions
  american football encourages.  But I am speaking from very limited
  experience.
 
  On the other hand, if the Aussies were so tough, I'd think more would
try
  American football. I think there are a couple playing, notably a punter,
 and
  I think an offensive lineman.
 



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RE: Supporting Outlook as an Exchange Admin - Poll

2002-02-05 Thread Ray Zorz

Depends on the size of the organization. I had about 50 users, so it wasn't
that big a deal.

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What is the general consensus on supporting the client as an Exchange admin.
To me it would seem helpful to know all the toys/options/features in
exchange's clients to test, and to implement new options to the users... but
what if users call about client issues? would that be a helpdesk function?
I'm just curious if your jobs combine supporting the client side as well as
the server side.

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RE: Automatically printing eMAILs

2002-02-05 Thread Ray Zorz

The title, Andy, not you. Stay seated awhile, think about Barbara Bush or
something.

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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Automatically printing eMAILs


It is now.


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I am the IT Mistress... is that inflation?
~
-K.Borndale
IT Mistress
Sybari Software
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631.439.0689 -fax
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Please respond to

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I hate title inflation.

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The thing that I always found amazing was that as secretaries became
office administrators and clerks became accountants (in their minds), if
you called them by their earlier titles they took offense.  The thing
that was given in
lieu of money was treated as though its value was real.   I would have
thought that higher paid clerks and secretaries would have had more
status than lower paid accountants (!) and secretaries, but apparently
not.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Automatically printing eMAILs


Some of us arent as old as you and don't remember that.


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Which is especially silly if you happen to know that most secretaries
were male until sometime this century.

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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That, and the fact that there are a lot more males in the Personal
Assistant field than there used to be and they took offense at being
called a secretary...even though that's really what they are.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:22 AM
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Subject: RE: Automatically printing eMAILs


Well, the term secretary wasn't retired so much because it wasn't PC as
that executives wanted to elevate the self-esteem of the secretaries
without raising their pay.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 2:32 AM
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Nahh, no problems here, just though I would point it out for some of the
more PC list readers.

Glenn

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 Not politically correct for you, Glenn?

 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
 Tech Consultant
 Compaq Computer Corporation
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Glenn Corbett
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 2:36 PM
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 Ed,

 I think the term secretaries went out a few years ago, they're called
 personal assistants or executive assistants these days.

 Glenn
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  Naw, CEOs have secretaries that can print their e-mail for them.
 
  Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
  Tech Consultant
  Compaq Computer Corporation
  Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
 
 
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RE: The day after superbowl

2002-02-04 Thread Ray Zorz

now that's funny.

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The only real football game worth watching any more is Army-Navy.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
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Patriots (finally a sports team to celebrate in boston) :)

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Who won?

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No change there then.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
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RE: The day after superbowl

2002-02-04 Thread Ray Zorz

Unfortunately football/soccer is also boring.

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Daniel
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haha, correction - the only 'real football' game worth watching is the one
that actually _is_ football, you know, the one based around using your feet
to kick the ball...

seriously, i do really like 'american football', but it's a bit stop-start
and there are way too many stats and ad-breaks.

 
 The only real football game worth watching any more is Army-Navy.
 
 John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
 (404) 239 - 2981 
 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:48 AM
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 Subject: RE: The day after superbowl
 
 
 Patriots (finally a sports team to celebrate in boston) :)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:54 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: The day after superbowl
 
 
 Who won?
 
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 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:50 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: The day after superbowl
 
 
 No change there then.
 
 Regards
 
 Mr Louis Joyce
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 Exchange Administrator
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RE: The day after superbowl

2002-02-04 Thread Ray Zorz

There's lot's of theories about that, the number 1 being it's cheap. 

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Daniel
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yes, that's why it's the most popular sport in the world.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 04 February 2002 15:24
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 Unfortunately football/soccer is also boring.
 
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 Daniel
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:07 AM
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 haha, correction - the only 'real football' game worth 
 watching is the one
 that actually _is_ football, you know, the one based around 
 using your feet
 to kick the ball...
 
 seriously, i do really like 'american football', but it's a 
 bit stop-start
 and there are way too many stats and ad-breaks.
 
  
  The only real football game worth watching any more is Army-Navy.
  
  John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
  Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
  (404) 239 - 2981 
  My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! 
  
  
  
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  Patriots (finally a sports team to celebrate in boston) :)
  
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  Who won?
  
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  No change there then.
  
  Regards
  
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  Exchange Administrator
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RE: The day after superbowl

2002-02-04 Thread Ray Zorz

nope

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You might change your mind if you watch Manchester United play..

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Unfortunately football/soccer is also boring.

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Daniel
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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haha, correction - the only 'real football' game worth watching is the one
that actually _is_ football, you know, the one based around using your feet
to kick the ball...

seriously, i do really like 'american football', but it's a bit stop-start
and there are way too many stats and ad-breaks.


 The only real football game worth watching any more is Army-Navy.

 John Matteson; Exchange Manager
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
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 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys!



 -Original Message-
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 Patriots (finally a sports team to celebrate in boston) :)

 -Original Message-
 From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:54 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


 Who won?

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 No change there then.

 Regards

 Mr Louis Joyce
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 Exchange Administrator
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RE: The day after superbowl

2002-02-04 Thread Ray Zorz

Someday they may be able to add some other countries to the mix I suppose.
But not too many countries play baseball at our level in their country.
Japan has a very established league.  Not sure about the Central and South
American countries. No question they are a great source of outstanding
ballplayers.

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A man convinced against his will,
Is of the same opinion still.

You're all right and you're all wrong.

However, I still don't understand the world series baseball, or
whatever it's called, that only has 1 country playing it (or is it 2
with Canada?)  :-)

Neil Hobson

Silversands
http://www.silversands.co.uk
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
For Enterprise Systems
For Collaborative Solutions

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From: Kishore Vara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: 04 February 2002 15:30
Posted To: Exchange Mailing List
Conversation: The day after superbowl
Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


You might change your mind if you watch Manchester United play..

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 February 2002 15:24
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


Unfortunately football/soccer is also boring.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson,
Daniel
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


haha, correction - the only 'real football' game worth watching is the
one that actually _is_ football, you know, the one based around using
your feet to kick the ball...

seriously, i do really like 'american football', but it's a bit
stop-start and there are way too many stats and ad-breaks.


 The only real football game worth watching any more is Army-Navy.

 John Matteson; Exchange Manager
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
 (404) 239 - 2981
 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys!



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:48 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


 Patriots (finally a sports team to celebrate in boston) :)

 -Original Message-
 From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:54 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


 Who won?

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 -Original Message-
 From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


 No change there then.

 Regards

 Mr Louis Joyce
 Network Support Analyst
 Exchange Administrator
 BT Ignite eSolutions




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RE: The day after superbowl

2002-02-04 Thread Ray Zorz

running isn't a team sport. 

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Running is cheaper but it's not as popular.

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There's lot's of theories about that, the number 1 being it's cheap. 

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yes, that's why it's the most popular sport in the world.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 04 February 2002 15:24
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 Subject: RE: The day after superbowl
 
 
 Unfortunately football/soccer is also boring.
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, 
 Daniel
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:07 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: The day after superbowl
 
 
 haha, correction - the only 'real football' game worth
 watching is the one
 that actually _is_ football, you know, the one based around 
 using your feet
 to kick the ball...
 
 seriously, i do really like 'american football', but it's a
 bit stop-start
 and there are way too many stats and ad-breaks.
 
  
  The only real football game worth watching any more is Army-Navy.
  
  John Matteson; Exchange Manager
  Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
  (404) 239 - 2981 
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RE: The day after superbowl

2002-02-04 Thread Ray Zorz

Right. I'm sure the kids in neighborhoods all around the world get together
and say let's run a relay.

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The 4x400 meters is.

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 running isn't a team sport.

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 Running is cheaper but it's not as popular.

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 There's lot's of theories about that, the number 1 being it's cheap.

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 yes, that's why it's the most popular sport in the world.

  -Original Message-
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  Unfortunately football/soccer is also boring.
 
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  Daniel
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  haha, correction - the only 'real football' game worth
  watching is the one
  that actually _is_ football, you know, the one based around
  using your feet
  to kick the ball...
 
  seriously, i do really like 'american football', but it's a
  bit stop-start
  and there are way too many stats and ad-breaks.
 
  
   The only real football game worth watching any more is Army-Navy.
  
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   (404) 239 - 2981
   My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys!
  
  
  
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   Patriots (finally a sports team to celebrate in boston) :)
  
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   No change there then.
  
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RE: The day after superbowl

2002-02-04 Thread Ray Zorz

We were actually talking about how football(soccer) became the world's
number 1 sport, although not necessarily in the US.

Yeah, organized sports has it's problems, usually with the parents.  And
those of us that actually played a lot of those organized sports appreciated
having our parents there (usually).  I did, and still do, however, feel
sorry for those kids whose parents were out of control, or never show up or
dump their kids off on the coaches.

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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:14 PM
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Subject: RE: The day after superbowl



  I'm pretty sure all non-organized youth team sports were formally banned
in the U.S. sometime during the Reagan administration.

  Completely replaced by relentlessly organized sporting leagues where all
parents strictly attend every event so as to not too cause a psychic breach
in  Jr.'s self-esteem by  implying that he or she is not at all times the
center of the universe.  Sort of boring for the adults so they spend game
time viciously cursing the officials and the other team's spectators.

   Works really well. Parents at these events rarely bludgeon each other to
death over arguments about the officiating or Princess's playing time.

 Jim Helfer


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Right. I'm sure the kids in neighborhoods all around the world get together
and say let's run a relay.

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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 12:33 PM
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The 4x400 meters is.

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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


 running isn't a team sport.

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 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:45 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


 Running is cheaper but it's not as popular.

 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


 There's lot's of theories about that, the number 1 being it's cheap.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:16 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


 yes, that's why it's the most popular sport in the world.

  -Original Message-
  From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 04 February 2002 15:24
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: The day after superbowl
 
 
  Unfortunately football/soccer is also boring.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson,
  Daniel
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:07 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: The day after superbowl
 
 
  haha, correction - the only 'real football' game worth
  watching is the one
  that actually _is_ football, you know, the one based around
  using your feet
  to kick the ball...
 
  seriously, i do really like 'american football', but it's a
  bit stop-start
  and there are way too many stats and ad-breaks.
 
  
   The only real football game worth watching any more is Army-Navy.
  
   John Matteson; Exchange Manager
   Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
   (404) 239 - 2981
   My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys!
  
  
  
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   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:48 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: The day after superbowl
  
  
   Patriots (finally a sports team to celebrate in boston) :)
  
   -Original Message-
   From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:54 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: The day after superbowl
  
  
   Who won?
  
   John Matteson; Exchange Manager
   Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
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   My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys!
  
  
  
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   From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:50 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
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   No change there then.
  
   Regards
  
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   Network Support Analyst
   Exchange Administrator
   BT Ignite eSolutions

RE: The day after superbowl

2002-02-04 Thread Ray Zorz

yabbut compared to many other countries, we don't follow soccer that much. 

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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:28 PM
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Ahem.  And what country's team is the current Women's World Cup
Champion?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 12:22 PM
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We were actually talking about how football(soccer) became the world's
number 1 sport, although not necessarily in the US.

Yeah, organized sports has it's problems, usually with the parents.  And
those of us that actually played a lot of those organized sports
appreciated having our parents there (usually).  I did, and still do,
however, feel sorry for those kids whose parents were out of control, or
never show up or dump their kids off on the coaches.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Helfer
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The day after superbowl



  I'm pretty sure all non-organized youth team sports were formally
banned in the U.S. sometime during the Reagan administration.

  Completely replaced by relentlessly organized sporting leagues where
all parents strictly attend every event so as to not too cause a psychic
breach in  Jr.'s self-esteem by  implying that he or she is not at all
times the center of the universe.  Sort of boring for the adults so they
spend game time viciously cursing the officials and the other team's
spectators.

   Works really well. Parents at these events rarely bludgeon each other
to death over arguments about the officiating or Princess's playing
time.

 Jim Helfer


-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


Right. I'm sure the kids in neighborhoods all around the world get
together and say let's run a relay.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Tuip
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 12:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: The day after superbowl


The 4x400 meters is.

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From: Ray Zorz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


 running isn't a team sport.

 -Original Message-
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 Serdar
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:45 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
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 Running is cheaper but it's not as popular.

 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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 To: Exchange Discussions
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 There's lot's of theories about that, the number 1 being it's cheap.

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 Daniel
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 yes, that's why it's the most popular sport in the world.

  -Original Message-
  From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 04 February 2002 15:24
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: The day after superbowl
 
 
  Unfortunately football/soccer is also boring.
 
  -Original Message-
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, 
  Daniel
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:07 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: The day after superbowl
 
 
  haha, correction - the only 'real football' game worth watching is 
  the one that actually _is_ football, you know, the one based around
  using your feet
  to kick the ball...
 
  seriously, i do really like 'american football', but it's a bit 
  stop-start and there are way too many stats and ad-breaks.
 
  
   The only real football game worth watching any more is Army-Navy.
  
   John Matteson; Exchange Manager
   Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
   (404) 239 - 2981
   My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys!
  
  
  
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   Patriots (finally a sports team to celebrate in boston) :)
  
   -Original Message

RE: The day after superbowl

2002-02-04 Thread Ray Zorz

It's also of limited fun. I ran track for years, and for the life of me I
can't figure out why. I really liked playing soccer and baseball.

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Yeah... it's half mental and the other half mental.
The majority don't have capacity to keep their mind focused for as long as
it takes to complete a 5K, 10K or longer race.

John M.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:45 PM
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Running is cheaper but it's not as popular.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


There's lot's of theories about that, the number 1 being it's cheap.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


yes, that's why it's the most popular sport in the world.

 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 04 February 2002 15:24
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


 Unfortunately football/soccer is also boring.

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson,
 Daniel
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:07 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


 haha, correction - the only 'real football' game worth
 watching is the one
 that actually _is_ football, you know, the one based around
 using your feet
 to kick the ball...

 seriously, i do really like 'american football', but it's a
 bit stop-start
 and there are way too many stats and ad-breaks.

 
  The only real football game worth watching any more is Army-Navy.
 
  John Matteson; Exchange Manager
  Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
  (404) 239 - 2981
  My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys!
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:48 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: The day after superbowl
 
 
  Patriots (finally a sports team to celebrate in boston) :)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:54 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: The day after superbowl
 
 
  Who won?
 
  John Matteson; Exchange Manager
  Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
  (404) 239 - 2981
  My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys!
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:50 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: The day after superbowl
 
 
  No change there then.
 
  Regards
 
  Mr Louis Joyce
  Network Support Analyst
  Exchange Administrator
  BT Ignite eSolutions
 
 
 
 
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RE: The day after superbowl

2002-02-04 Thread Ray Zorz

I dunno how that would be.  While I appreciate Aussie rules football as a
game, there seems to be more effort to not have the bone-jarring collisions
american football encourages.  But I am speaking from very limited
experience.

On the other hand, if the Aussies were so tough, I'd think more would try
American football. I think there are a couple playing, notably a punter, and
I think an offensive lineman.

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send them down under for a real game of football, you know, no nancy
armour, no swapping players, that sort of thing.


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 If you have another contender perhaps they can arrange a match. :)

 Aloha,

 -Ben-
 Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
 Director of Information Services
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  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:16 AM
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  Same counts for winning the Superbowl and naming yourself
  World Champions ;)
 
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   LOL!  And in wintertime, they block the iced street and
  it's curling
   time!
  
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   Right. I'm sure the kids in neighborhoods all around the world get
  together
   and say let's run a relay.
  
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   Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 12:33 PM
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   The 4x400 meters is.
  
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   Subject: RE: The day after superbowl
  
  
running isn't a team sport.
   
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Serdar
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Subject: RE: The day after superbowl
   
   
Running is cheaper but it's not as popular.
   
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From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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There's lot's of theories about that, the number 1 being
  it's cheap.
   
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  Atkinson,
Daniel
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yes, that's why it's the most popular sport in the world.
   
 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 04 February 2002 15:24
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


 Unfortunately football/soccer is also boring.

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  Of Atkinson,
 Daniel
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:07 AM
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 Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


 haha, correction - the only 'real football' game worth
  watching is
 the one that actually _is_ football, you know, the one based
 around using your feet to kick the ball...

 seriously, i do really like 'american football', but it's a bit
 stop-start and there are way too many stats and ad-breaks.

 
  The only real football game worth watching any more is
  Army-Navy.
 
  John Matteson; Exchange Manager
  Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
  (404) 239 - 2981
  My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys!
 
 
 
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RE: The day after superbowl

2002-02-04 Thread Ray Zorz

Best of the best.  Kind of like hiring an Exchange admin as opposed to just
a network admin.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Peoples
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


Not ones for multi-tasking are they?

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


Yeah well MINIMUM wage in the NFL is about $220,000/yr.  And perhaps
those
tough guys ought to put the pads on and take a hit from Ray Lewis or
Levon
Kirkland.

In the early days of the NFL, many players did play offense and defense.
But
as the game became more popular, it also became more sophisticated, and
as
such lead to specialization.  The idea is it's the best of the best
doing
what they do best - run, catch, block, hit, throw.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glenn Corbett
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: The day after superbowl


I think the reason more Aussies dont try is that American football is
right
down near the bottom of the list of career choices. Soccer (Real
Football),
Aussie Rules, Rugby Union, Basketball, Rugby League, Baseball, and even
Cricket (possibly even Curling) are above American Football.

Aussie rules is a bit of a wierd game, sort of a cross between soccer
(strategy) and rugby (voilence). Its those damn tight shorts I think. I
dont
want to spend my weekend looking at lots of men running around in tight
shorts *shudder*.

Basically the yanks are seen as wimpy for putting on all that padding
before
playing a game of footy. Rugby League (whilst I cant be called a fan),
has
about 1/4 the padding of AF, but the tackles are as equally violent.

Also those breaks seem to interrupt the flow of the game IMHO damn, we
ran
10 yards, better stop for a few minutes to compose ourselves.  Oh, and
whats the deal with that ghey dancing when they score a touchdown ? Are
they
surprised they managed to make it to the end of the field without a map
?? I
can understand the carrying on with soccer, since goals are few and far
between (typically). And why do they have an Defensive and Offensive
team,
cant the Americans manage to do both ?

:)

Glenn
Australian by Choice

- Original Message -
From: Ray Zorz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:55 AM
Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


 I dunno how that would be.  While I appreciate Aussie rules football
as a
 game, there seems to be more effort to not have the bone-jarring
collisions
 american football encourages.  But I am speaking from very limited
 experience.

 On the other hand, if the Aussies were so tough, I'd think more would
try
 American football. I think there are a couple playing, notably a
punter,
and
 I think an offensive lineman.




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RE: The day after superbowl

2002-02-04 Thread Ray Zorz

It's a build-your-own rice dish at Samurai Sam's Fast Food Oriental
Restaurant.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sakti
Chakravarty
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


What's a superbowl?

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2002 15:14
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


Best of the best.  Kind of like hiring an Exchange admin as opposed to just
a network admin.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Peoples
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


Not ones for multi-tasking are they?

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


Yeah well MINIMUM wage in the NFL is about $220,000/yr.  And perhaps
those
tough guys ought to put the pads on and take a hit from Ray Lewis or
Levon
Kirkland.

In the early days of the NFL, many players did play offense and defense.
But
as the game became more popular, it also became more sophisticated, and
as
such lead to specialization.  The idea is it's the best of the best
doing
what they do best - run, catch, block, hit, throw.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glenn Corbett
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: The day after superbowl


I think the reason more Aussies dont try is that American football is
right
down near the bottom of the list of career choices. Soccer (Real
Football),
Aussie Rules, Rugby Union, Basketball, Rugby League, Baseball, and even
Cricket (possibly even Curling) are above American Football.

Aussie rules is a bit of a wierd game, sort of a cross between soccer
(strategy) and rugby (voilence). Its those damn tight shorts I think. I
dont
want to spend my weekend looking at lots of men running around in tight
shorts *shudder*.

Basically the yanks are seen as wimpy for putting on all that padding
before
playing a game of footy. Rugby League (whilst I cant be called a fan),
has
about 1/4 the padding of AF, but the tackles are as equally violent.

Also those breaks seem to interrupt the flow of the game IMHO damn, we
ran
10 yards, better stop for a few minutes to compose ourselves.  Oh, and
whats the deal with that ghey dancing when they score a touchdown ? Are
they
surprised they managed to make it to the end of the field without a map
?? I
can understand the carrying on with soccer, since goals are few and far
between (typically). And why do they have an Defensive and Offensive
team,
cant the Americans manage to do both ?

:)

Glenn
Australian by Choice

- Original Message -
From: Ray Zorz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:55 AM
Subject: RE: The day after superbowl


 I dunno how that would be.  While I appreciate Aussie rules football
as a
 game, there seems to be more effort to not have the bone-jarring
collisions
 american football encourages.  But I am speaking from very limited
 experience.

 On the other hand, if the Aussies were so tough, I'd think more would
try
 American football. I think there are a couple playing, notably a
punter,
and
 I think an offensive lineman.




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RE: Outlook Rules Problem

2002-01-31 Thread Ray Zorz

Wouldn't it make more sense to forward the e-mails to the correct person and
let them answer it.

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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Rules Problem


Yea I know this is a bad idea.  But they want to use this for 30 days
because someone important left the company and they want everyone sending
him email to know that he no longer works here.  Not my idea!  I already
told them I don't like it.  So if that happens, I'll just sit back here
laughing at their stupid a$$es.

___
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Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support  Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Rules Problem


And what happens to you when someone auto-replies to your auto-reply???

BAD IDEA!

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK

 -Original Message-
 From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 31 January 2002 14:25
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: FW: Outlook Rules Problem


 All,

 I'm trying to setup Auto Reply's to the internet.  I've
 unchecked the box
 Disable Auto-Replies to the internet Now when I go into
 Outlook to setup
 this Rule.  I have the rule to check messages when they
 arrive that was sent
 to my name.  Then I have server send reply using basically an
 email message
 back to the user.  In the email box I just put in the things
 I want the user
 to know, hit save and close.

 But when I send messages to my mailbox it's not auto-replying
 back to the
 internet.  It works internally, but not externally.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks,
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RE: outlook programming

2002-01-31 Thread Ray Zorz

Go to www.slipstick.com.  Lots of products listed, and therefore companies
that program.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: outlook programming


Joyce,

Does microsoft do custom programming for companys?
Thanks
Rich


-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: outlook programming


Microsoft.

You may of heard of them.

Then again, maybe not.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Network Support Analyst
Exchange Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 31 January 2002 16:56
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: outlook programming


Does anyone know of a company that can program outlook to our companys need?

RGDS
Rich

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RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's

2002-01-31 Thread Ray Zorz

He meant Orange County in NY.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


That was just hurtful.

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


In ActiveSync - Tools, Options, select Inbox and click the Settings button.
Check the boxes of folders you want to sync. [1]

[1] I typed this slowly so you boys in Orange County can follow along.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


Under what? :)

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


You just need to select which additional folders you want to sync in
ActiveSync. No magic involved. Did you look at the options?

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


I'm going to address this question to Ed  Missy primarily, since I'm
assuming that working at Compaq, they have a lot of experience with e-mail
over an iPaq.  But if anyone else knows the answer to this question, feel
free to respond.

Everyone in our Operations group has an iPaq, Model 3670 with a Socket Low
Power Ethernet PCMCIA card in the expansion pack.  We have them successfully
connecting to the network and sync'ing with the workstations over a 100 mbps
switched connection.

Here's the difficult part:  After sync'ing and opening your Inbox, you have
4 folders to choose from, to look in.  They are:
Deleted (local)
Inbox
Outbox
Sent
I know this behaviour is by default and that there MAY be no workaround for
it.  However, does a third-party product or a workaround exist that would
allow us to see sub-folders to our Inbox, like you can in OWA?

TIA,

Jim Blunt
Network / E-mail Admin
Network / Infrastructure Group
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
509-372-9188

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RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's

2002-01-31 Thread Ray Zorz

Good memory! Anyway, I had to leave. Failed all the tack tests.

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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


Ha!
Naw, we Orange County, NY residents are sharp as tacks. Of course, you would
know that since you used to be one.


-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


He meant Orange County in NY.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


That was just hurtful.

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


In ActiveSync - Tools, Options, select Inbox and click the Settings button.
Check the boxes of folders you want to sync. [1]

[1] I typed this slowly so you boys in Orange County can follow along.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


Under what? :)

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


You just need to select which additional folders you want to sync in
ActiveSync. No magic involved. Did you look at the options?

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


I'm going to address this question to Ed  Missy primarily, since I'm
assuming that working at Compaq, they have a lot of experience with e-mail
over an iPaq.  But if anyone else knows the answer to this question, feel
free to respond.

Everyone in our Operations group has an iPaq, Model 3670 with a Socket Low
Power Ethernet PCMCIA card in the expansion pack.  We have them successfully
connecting to the network and sync'ing with the workstations over a 100 mbps
switched connection.

Here's the difficult part:  After sync'ing and opening your Inbox, you have
4 folders to choose from, to look in.  They are:
Deleted (local)
Inbox
Outbox
Sent
I know this behaviour is by default and that there MAY be no workaround for
it.  However, does a third-party product or a workaround exist that would
allow us to see sub-folders to our Inbox, like you can in OWA?

TIA,

Jim Blunt
Network / E-mail Admin
Network / Infrastructure Group
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
509-372-9188

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RE: MEC 2002: Predictions of a psychic dog

2002-01-30 Thread Ray Zorz

no problem with yahoo. no joy with oracle. 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Miller
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MEC 2002: Predictions of a psychic dog


Is it just me can no one else get to www.yahoo.com or www.oracle.com?? 

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joyce, Louis
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 8:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MEC 2002: Predictions of a psychic dog


Who is the psychic dog? Does Milton have a crystal ball next to his
monitor or something?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Network Support Analyst
Exchange Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 January 2002 16:40
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MEC 2002: Predictions of a psychic dog


Only 3 days?
Oh well, at least  I can make this one!

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:52 AM
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Subject: MEC 2002: Predictions of a psychic dog


I bet you all wish you had a psychic dog consultant... well, actually
I'll be happy to rent out mine. $12.95 per question and I believe he
accepts PayPaw.

MEC 2002: Anaheim, CA in October
http://www.mail-resources.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=arti
cle
sid=126mode=order=0


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RE: How to get sender e-mail addresses from deleted items folder in MS Outlook

2002-01-11 Thread Ray Zorz

I'd suggest you search for some software from bulk e-mailers. 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sachin
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: How to get sender e-mail addresses from deleted items folder in
MS Outlook


I have a problem here my boss recieves hundreds of emails every day so
he keeps on deleting many of them without giving a serious look at the
contents and adresses.
Now he wants that even if the mail gets deleted and gets stored in the
deleted items folder, he should run a utility and be able to get the email
ids of senders of all such messages in the deleted item folder by running
the utility at the end of each day.

Can any body guide me how to go about writing such a utility or get it
somewhere for outlook. The mail server used is MS Exchange 5.5

thanks 
Sachin

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