RE: I need help with edb*.log files
I allow it on the IMS servers, but never on a mailbox server. -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files I have circular logging turned on on my bridghead server. No mailboxes to ever have to restore. No need for transaction logs. Darcy -Original Message- From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files Is anyone using circular logging? and if so, for what reason(s)? I just looked and saw that I was using it but was reading in the disaster recovery why it's good NOT to use it. Mike Circular logging = BAD on mailbox server 200 logs in one day? Couple of things that it could be but it sounds like you might have a Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message. Stephen -Original Message- From: Robert Williams To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 11/12/01 11:59 AM Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files I found this.so I will go with it PSS ID Number: Q240145 Article last modified on 10-10-1999 winnt:5.5 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
Robert, go with what? What are you planning to change? Just because you CAN does not ever necessarily mean you SHOULD, especially in the Land of Exchange. -Original Message- From: Robert Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files I found this.so I will go with it PSS ID Number: Q240145 Article last modified on 10-10-1999 winnt:5.5 == --- The information in this article applies to: - Microsoft Exchange Server, version 5.5 --- SUMMARY === Exchange Server database transaction logs record all changes to an Exchange Server database. Over time, these logs accumulate and use all disk space if they are not permanently deleted. Exchange Server automatically deletes unnecessary log files by either of the following methods: - If circular logging is enabled, the system deletes transaction logs soon after they have been written to the database file. Circular logging is the Exchange Server installation default. - If circular logging is disabled, the system deletes excess logs after a full or incremental backup. You may occasionally need to remove transaction log files manually if you have run out of disk space or anticipate such an event before a backup can be made. Removing logs yourself can be dangerous to the database. If you remove a log that contains data that has not yet been written to the database file, you will almost always damage the database and make it unstartable. NOTE: Removing a transaction log file means moving it to another location where it can be backed up, stored, or deleted, depending on your needs. Deleting is a kind of removal that does not permit you to back up or restore the log file. This article explains how to tell which log files can be safely removed without risk to the current database file. MORE INFORMATION After Exchange Server has written all information from a particular transaction log to the database file, that log file will be accessed again only if a previous backup of the database is restored. The log is now in the past of the database. But if a backup is restored, the log is in the future of the restored database. Its information can be applied to the database to bring it up to date. IMPORTANT: When you remove excess transaction logs, you should move them rather than delete them in order to preserve this roll forward capability. The following steps apply to both the information store and to the directory service. To determine which log files can be safely removed: 1. In the Exchange Server Administrator program, view the working path for the database. Path locations are found on the Server object's Database Paths properties page. The checkpoint file (Edb.chk) is located in this path. If the Administrator program is unavailable, you can view the working path in the system registry. Run Regedit.exe and expand the following registry key. For the information store: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\MSExchangeIS\Parameters System\Working Directory For the directory: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\MSExchangeDS\Parameters \DSA Working Directory 2. At a command prompt, change directory to the working path folder. View the header of the Edb.chk file with Eseutil (Exchange Server 5.5): eseutil /mk edb.chk (without the quotation marks) or Edbutil (Exchange Server 4.0 and 5.0): edbutil /mk edb.chk (without the quotation marks) Note that the screen output is similar to the following: Microsoft(r) Windows NT(tm) Server Database Utilities Version 5.5 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation 1991-1998. All Rights Reserved. Initiating FILE DUMP mode... Checkpoint file: edb.chk LastFullBackupCheckpoint (0,0,0) Checkpoint (157,2860,500)comment: Checkpoint is in log 157 decimal FullBackup (90,8,10) FullBackup time:1/15/1999 18:18:36 IncBackup (0,0,0) IncBackup time:0/0/1900 0:0:0 . . . The three numbers on the Checkpoint line represent the log file generation number, a sector offset into the log file, and a byte offset into the sector. Write down the generation number. 3. Convert the generation number into hexadecimal. In this example, decimal 157 translates to hexadecimal 9D. Exchange Server log files are numbered with five hexadecimal digits (for example Edb12345.log). Leading zeroes are used to pad the log number out to five digits. Thus, the checkpoint log file from the preceding example is Edb0009d.log. NOTE: You can use the Scientific mode of the Windows Calculator to convert from decimal to hexadecimal. Start the Calculator
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
Do you come from the land of Exchange? Where women glow and men plunder? Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder? You better run, you better take cover. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files Robert, go with what? What are you planning to change? Just because you CAN does not ever necessarily mean you SHOULD, especially in the Land of Exchange. -Original Message- From: Robert Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files I found this.so I will go with it PSS ID Number: Q240145 Article last modified on 10-10-1999 winnt:5.5 == --- The information in this article applies to: - Microsoft Exchange Server, version 5.5 --- SUMMARY === Exchange Server database transaction logs record all changes to an Exchange Server database. Over time, these logs accumulate and use all disk space if they are not permanently deleted. Exchange Server automatically deletes unnecessary log files by either of the following methods: - If circular logging is enabled, the system deletes transaction logs soon after they have been written to the database file. Circular logging is the Exchange Server installation default. - If circular logging is disabled, the system deletes excess logs after a full or incremental backup. You may occasionally need to remove transaction log files manually if you have run out of disk space or anticipate such an event before a backup can be made. Removing logs yourself can be dangerous to the database. If you remove a log that contains data that has not yet been written to the database file, you will almost always damage the database and make it unstartable. NOTE: Removing a transaction log file means moving it to another location where it can be backed up, stored, or deleted, depending on your needs. Deleting is a kind of removal that does not permit you to back up or restore the log file. This article explains how to tell which log files can be safely removed without risk to the current database file. MORE INFORMATION After Exchange Server has written all information from a particular transaction log to the database file, that log file will be accessed again only if a previous backup of the database is restored. The log is now in the past of the database. But if a backup is restored, the log is in the future of the restored database. Its information can be applied to the database to bring it up to date. IMPORTANT: When you remove excess transaction logs, you should move them rather than delete them in order to preserve this roll forward capability. The following steps apply to both the information store and to the directory service. To determine which log files can be safely removed: 1. In the Exchange Server Administrator program, view the working path for the database. Path locations are found on the Server object's Database Paths properties page. The checkpoint file (Edb.chk) is located in this path. If the Administrator program is unavailable, you can view the working path in the system registry. Run Regedit.exe and expand the following registry key. For the information store: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\MSExchangeIS\Parameters System\Working Directory For the directory: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\MSExchangeDS\Parameters \DSA Working Directory 2. At a command prompt, change directory to the working path folder. View the header of the Edb.chk file with Eseutil (Exchange Server 5.5): eseutil /mk edb.chk (without the quotation marks) or Edbutil (Exchange Server 4.0 and 5.0): edbutil /mk edb.chk (without the quotation marks) Note that the screen output is similar to the following: Microsoft(r) Windows NT(tm) Server Database Utilities Version 5.5 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation 1991-1998. All Rights Reserved. Initiating FILE DUMP mode... Checkpoint file: edb.chk LastFullBackupCheckpoint (0,0,0) Checkpoint (157,2860,500)comment: Checkpoint is in log 157 decimal FullBackup (90,8,10) FullBackup time:1/15/1999 18:18:36 IncBackup (0,0,0) IncBackup time:0/0/1900 0:0:0 . . . The three numbers on the Checkpoint line represent the log file generation number, a sector offset into the log file, and a byte offset into the sector. Write down the generation number. 3. Convert the generation number into hexadecimal. In this example, decimal 157 translates to hexadecimal 9D. Exchange Server log files
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Hunter, Lori wrote: Robert, go with what? What are you planning to change? Just because you CAN does not ever necessarily mean you SHOULD, especially in the Land of Exchange. One log to journal them all, One log to find them, One log to sort them all, And in the I.S. bind them, In the Land of Exchange, where the Messages lie. ;-) -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
They are the transaction logs created since the last full backup of your exchange databases (by exchange-aware backup programs). They normally get deleted after a successful backup. Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Robert Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 November 2001 16:59 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: I need help with edb*.log files I have about 200 edb.log files in my mdbdata folder. How do they get cleaned up and why did my server generate so many of them? Thank You, Robert Williams Senior Network Administrator Raypak, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone - 805-278-5363 FAX - 818-464-6982 www.raypak.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I need help with edb*.log files
Are you backing up your server? Those logs are what is being written. If you are backing up the server, and have the log files removed, you won't see quite so many -there is an option to flush committed logs when backing up. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Robert Williams | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 11/12/2001 11:58 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- ---| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: I need help with edb*.log files | ---| I have about 200 edb.log files in my mdbdata folder. How do they get cleaned up and why did my server generate so many of them? Thank You, Robert Williams Senior Network Administrator Raypak, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone - 805-278-5363 FAX - 818-464-6982 www.raypak.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
I backup my server with Veritas Backup Execall of these files were generated in 1 day.Can I delete these without any problems? Thank You, Robert Williams Senior Network Administrator Raypak, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone - 805-278-5363 FAX - 818-464-6982 www.raypak.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: I need help with edb*.log files Are you backing up your server? Those logs are what is being written. If you are backing up the server, and have the log files removed, you won't see quite so many -there is an option to flush committed logs when backing up. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Robert Williams | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 11/12/2001 11:58 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- --- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: I need help with edb*.log files | --- | I have about 200 edb.log files in my mdbdata folder. How do they get cleaned up and why did my server generate so many of them? Thank You, Robert Williams Senior Network Administrator Raypak, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone - 805-278-5363 FAX - 818-464-6982 www.raypak.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
You may want to run an online backup, and delete them like that. Or, you could stop the IS, and that will commit the log files as well. Are you running out of space? Is that why you need to delete them? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Robert Williams | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 11/12/2001 12:44 PM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- ---| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files | ---| I backup my server with Veritas Backup Execall of these files were generated in 1 day.Can I delete these without any problems? Thank You, Robert Williams Senior Network Administrator Raypak, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone - 805-278-5363 FAX - 818-464-6982 www.raypak.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: I need help with edb*.log files Are you backing up your server? Those logs are what is being written. If you are backing up the server, and have the log files removed, you won't see quite so many -there is an option to flush committed logs when backing up. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Robert Williams | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 11/12/2001 11:58 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- --- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: I need help with edb*.log files | --- | I have about 200 edb.log files in my mdbdata folder. How do they get cleaned up and why did my server generate so many of them? Thank You, Robert Williams Senior Network Administrator Raypak, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone - 805-278-5363 FAX - 818-464-6982 www.raypak.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
Sounds to me like he needs to run to the disaster recovery white paper. And read it.. Before that happens he needs to step away from the server. Those are not log files like what your server did. They are transaction logs. As in a copy of every message that has come in and out of your server, that in the case of a Priv loss can be re applied to a backup to make your Priv current. Go, read, NOW! Then you can ask more questions. Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files You may want to run an online backup, and delete them like that. Or, you could stop the IS, and that will commit the log files as well. Are you running out of space? Is that why you need to delete them? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Robert Williams | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 11/12/2001 12:44 PM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- --- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files | --- | I backup my server with Veritas Backup Execall of these files were generated in 1 day.Can I delete these without any problems? Thank You, Robert Williams Senior Network Administrator Raypak, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone - 805-278-5363 FAX - 818-464-6982 www.raypak.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: I need help with edb*.log files Are you backing up your server? Those logs are what is being written. If you are backing up the server, and have the log files removed, you won't see quite so many -there is an option to flush committed logs when backing up. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Robert Williams | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 11/12/2001 11:58 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- --- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: I need help with edb*.log files | --- | I have about 200 edb.log files in my mdbdata folder. How do they get cleaned up and why did my server generate so many of them? Thank You, Robert Williams Senior Network Administrator Raypak, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone - 805-278-5363 FAX - 818-464-6982 www.raypak.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
Thanks, will look at it Thank You, Robert Williams Senior Network Administrator Raypak, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone - 805-278-5363 FAX - 818-464-6982 www.raypak.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files Sounds to me like he needs to run to the disaster recovery white paper. And read it.. Before that happens he needs to step away from the server. Those are not log files like what your server did. They are transaction logs. As in a copy of every message that has come in and out of your server, that in the case of a Priv loss can be re applied to a backup to make your Priv current. Go, read, NOW! Then you can ask more questions. Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files You may want to run an online backup, and delete them like that. Or, you could stop the IS, and that will commit the log files as well. Are you running out of space? Is that why you need to delete them? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Robert Williams | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 11/12/2001 12:44 PM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- --- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files | --- | I backup my server with Veritas Backup Execall of these files were generated in 1 day.Can I delete these without any problems? Thank You, Robert Williams Senior Network Administrator Raypak, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone - 805-278-5363 FAX - 818-464-6982 www.raypak.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: I need help with edb*.log files Are you backing up your server? Those logs are what is being written. If you are backing up the server, and have the log files removed, you won't see quite so many -there is an option to flush committed logs when backing up. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Robert Williams | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 11/12/2001 11:58 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- --- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: I need help with edb*.log files | --- | I have about 200 edb.log files in my mdbdata folder. How do they get cleaned up and why did my server generate so many of them? Thank You, Robert Williams Senior Network Administrator Raypak, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone - 805-278-5363 FAX - 818-464-6982 www.raypak.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
for this is that the checkpoint may be in the Edb.log file. When the Edb.log file is full, it is renamed Edb0009d.log, and a new Edb.log file is created, which will itself eventually be renamed Edb0009e.log, and so on. 5. You can safely remove all numbered logs below the checkpoint, but not the checkpoint log itself. In this example, you can remove Edb0009c.log, Edb0009b.log, and so on, but not Edb0009d.log. If you do not intend to remove all logs older than the checkpoint, it is best to remove them in chronological order, starting with the oldest. Remember to move, not delete, the log files. You do not have to stop the database service to remove log files older than the checkpoint. If you must restore a backup, you must also restore all log files created since the last backup. If there is a gap in the sequence of logs, you cannot roll forward past the gap. Additional query words: == Keywords : exc55 Technology: kbExchangeSearch kbExchange550 kbZNotKeyword2 Version : winnt:5.5 Issue type: kbhowto = Copyright Microsoft Corporation 1999. Thank You, Robert Williams Senior Network Administrator Raypak, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone - 805-278-5363 FAX - 818-464-6982 www.raypak.com -Original Message- From: Robert Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files Thanks, will look at it Thank You, Robert Williams Senior Network Administrator Raypak, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone - 805-278-5363 FAX - 818-464-6982 www.raypak.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files Sounds to me like he needs to run to the disaster recovery white paper. And read it.. Before that happens he needs to step away from the server. Those are not log files like what your server did. They are transaction logs. As in a copy of every message that has come in and out of your server, that in the case of a Priv loss can be re applied to a backup to make your Priv current. Go, read, NOW! Then you can ask more questions. Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files You may want to run an online backup, and delete them like that. Or, you could stop the IS, and that will commit the log files as well. Are you running out of space? Is that why you need to delete them? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Robert Williams | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 11/12/2001 12:44 PM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- --- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files | --- | I backup my server with Veritas Backup Execall of these files were generated in 1 day.Can I delete these without any problems? Thank You, Robert Williams Senior Network Administrator Raypak, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone - 805-278-5363 FAX - 818-464-6982 www.raypak.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: I need help with edb*.log files Are you backing up your server? Those logs are what is being written. If you are backing up the server, and have the log files removed, you won't see quite so many -there is an option to flush committed logs when backing up. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
Circular logging = BAD on mailbox server 200 logs in one day? Couple of things that it could be but it sounds like you might have a Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message. Stephen -Original Message- From: Robert Williams To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 11/12/01 11:59 AM Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files I found this.so I will go with it PSS ID Number: Q240145 Article last modified on 10-10-1999 winnt:5.5 == --- The information in this article applies to: - Microsoft Exchange Server, version 5.5 --- SUMMARY === Exchange Server database transaction logs record all changes to an Exchange Server database. Over time, these logs accumulate and use all disk space if they are not permanently deleted. Exchange Server automatically deletes unnecessary log files by either of the following methods: - If circular logging is enabled, the system deletes transaction logs soon after they have been written to the database file. Circular logging is the Exchange Server installation default. - If circular logging is disabled, the system deletes excess logs after a full or incremental backup. You may occasionally need to remove transaction log files manually if you have run out of disk space or anticipate such an event before a backup can be made. Removing logs yourself can be dangerous to the database. If you remove a log that contains data that has not yet been written to the database file, you will almost always damage the database and make it unstartable. NOTE: Removing a transaction log file means moving it to another location where it can be backed up, stored, or deleted, depending on your needs. Deleting is a kind of removal that does not permit you to back up or restore the log file. This article explains how to tell which log files can be safely removed without risk to the current database file. MORE INFORMATION After Exchange Server has written all information from a particular transaction log to the database file, that log file will be accessed again only if a previous backup of the database is restored. The log is now in the past of the database. But if a backup is restored, the log is in the future of the restored database. Its information can be applied to the database to bring it up to date. IMPORTANT: When you remove excess transaction logs, you should move them rather than delete them in order to preserve this roll forward capability. The following steps apply to both the information store and to the directory service. To determine which log files can be safely removed: 1. In the Exchange Server Administrator program, view the working path for the database. Path locations are found on the Server object's Database Paths properties page. The checkpoint file (Edb.chk) is located in this path. If the Administrator program is unavailable, you can view the working path in the system registry. Run Regedit.exe and expand the following registry key. For the information store: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\MSExchangeIS\Parame ters System\Working Directory For the directory: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\MSExchangeDS\Parame ters \DSA Working Directory 2. At a command prompt, change directory to the working path folder. View the header of the Edb.chk file with Eseutil (Exchange Server 5.5): eseutil /mk edb.chk (without the quotation marks) or Edbutil (Exchange Server 4.0 and 5.0): edbutil /mk edb.chk (without the quotation marks) Note that the screen output is similar to the following: Microsoft(r) Windows NT(tm) Server Database Utilities Version 5.5 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation 1991-1998. All Rights Reserved. Initiating FILE DUMP mode... Checkpoint file: edb.chk LastFullBackupCheckpoint (0,0,0) Checkpoint (157,2860,500)comment: Checkpoint is in log 157 decimal FullBackup (90,8,10) FullBackup time:1/15/1999 18:18:36 IncBackup (0,0,0) IncBackup time:0/0/1900 0:0:0 . . . The three numbers on the Checkpoint line represent the log file generation number, a sector offset into the log file, and a byte offset into the sector. Write down
Re: I need help with edb*.log files
Run, don't walk, to your nearest bookstore and pick up a version-appropriate book by either Robichaux or Redmond. Read it. Then ask questions. - Original Message - From: Robert Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:58 AM Subject: I need help with edb*.log files I have about 200 edb.log files in my mdbdata folder. How do they get cleaned up and why did my server generate so many of them? Thank You, Robert Williams Senior Network Administrator Raypak, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone - 805-278-5363 FAX - 818-464-6982 www.raypak.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
Is anyone using circular logging? and if so, for what reason(s)? I just looked and saw that I was using it but was reading in the disaster recovery why it's good NOT to use it. Mike Circular logging = BAD on mailbox server 200 logs in one day? Couple of things that it could be but it sounds like you might have a Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message. Stephen -Original Message- From: Robert Williams To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 11/12/01 11:59 AM Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files I found this.so I will go with it PSS ID Number: Q240145 Article last modified on 10-10-1999 winnt:5.5 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
Circ. Logging can be very good if you are running a connectors only Exchange server. After all, if it's only housing connectors, why would you care about the log files? Stephen -Original Message- From: Mike Omilian To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 11/12/01 1:28 PM Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files Is anyone using circular logging? and if so, for what reason(s)? I just looked and saw that I was using it but was reading in the disaster recovery why it's good NOT to use it. Mike Circular logging = BAD on mailbox server 200 logs in one day? Couple of things that it could be but it sounds like you might have a Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message. Stephen -Original Message- From: Robert Williams To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 11/12/01 11:59 AM Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files I found this.so I will go with it PSS ID Number: Q240145 Article last modified on 10-10-1999 winnt:5.5 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
I have circular logging turned on on my bridghead server. No mailboxes to ever have to restore. No need for transaction logs. Darcy -Original Message- From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files Is anyone using circular logging? and if so, for what reason(s)? I just looked and saw that I was using it but was reading in the disaster recovery why it's good NOT to use it. Mike Circular logging = BAD on mailbox server 200 logs in one day? Couple of things that it could be but it sounds like you might have a Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message. Stephen -Original Message- From: Robert Williams To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 11/12/01 11:59 AM Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files I found this.so I will go with it PSS ID Number: Q240145 Article last modified on 10-10-1999 winnt:5.5 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
Clarification: You won't find anyone with a shred of credibility that is using circular logging **on a mailbox server**. Connector only servers are another matter. Darcy -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files You won't find anyone with a shred of credibility that is using circular logging. For the very reason that you mentioned. The DR Whitepaper gives you good reasons why not to use it. The Only time I might be able to understand where it is being used is where you don't have the means to back up your system. Then again, if you don't have the means to back it up, then you shouldn't install it. So nix that last statement. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: I need help with edb*.log files Is anyone using circular logging? and if so, for what reason(s)? I just looked and saw that I was using it but was reading in the disaster recovery why it's good NOT to use it. Mike Circular logging = BAD on mailbox server 200 logs in one day? Couple of things that it could be but it sounds like you might have a Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message. Stephen -Original Message- From: Robert Williams To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 11/12/01 11:59 AM Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files I found this.so I will go with it PSS ID Number: Q240145 Article last modified on 10-10-1999 winnt:5.5 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
Circular logging is acceptable on IMS only servers. -Original Message- From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files Is anyone using circular logging? and if so, for what reason(s)? I just looked and saw that I was using it but was reading in the disaster recovery why it's good NOT to use it. Mike Circular logging = BAD on mailbox server 200 logs in one day? Couple of things that it could be but it sounds like you might have a Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message. Stephen -Original Message- From: Robert Williams To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 11/12/01 11:59 AM Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files I found this.so I will go with it PSS ID Number: Q240145 Article last modified on 10-10-1999 winnt:5.5 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
Damn, it appears that I no longer have a shred of credibility, especially with my employees. Or should I say ex-employees G. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files You won't find anyone with a shred of credibility that is using circular logging. For the very reason that you mentioned. The DR Whitepaper gives you good reasons why not to use it. The Only time I might be able to understand where it is being used is where you don't have the means to back up your system. Then again, if you don't have the means to back it up, then you shouldn't install it. So nix that last statement. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: I need help with edb*.log files Is anyone using circular logging? and if so, for what reason(s)? I just looked and saw that I was using it but was reading in the disaster recovery why it's good NOT to use it. Mike Circular logging = BAD on mailbox server 200 logs in one day? Couple of things that it could be but it sounds like you might have a Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message. Stephen -Original Message- From: Robert Williams To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 11/12/01 11:59 AM Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files I found this.so I will go with it PSS ID Number: Q240145 Article last modified on 10-10-1999 winnt:5.5 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
I use it on my connector and IMC servers, but only when that's all they do. Since nothing is stored in the databases there, there is no issue with losing one. Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files Is anyone using circular logging? and if so, for what reason(s)? I just looked and saw that I was using it but was reading in the disaster recovery why it's good NOT to use it. Mike Circular logging = BAD on mailbox server 200 logs in one day? Couple of things that it could be but it sounds like you might have a Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message. Stephen -Original Message- From: Robert Williams To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 11/12/01 11:59 AM Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files I found this.so I will go with it PSS ID Number: Q240145 Article last modified on 10-10-1999 winnt:5.5 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
I guess I don't have a shred of credibility, eh Ben.. I'll have to remember that next time you call me for help[1] Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com [1] Ben and I work together.[2] [2] And he knows that in multiple server orgs there are times and places for enabling circular logging.[3] [3] Ben won't make this mistake again[4] [4] Hi SHerry!!! -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files You won't find anyone with a shred of credibility that is using circular logging. For the very reason that you mentioned. The DR Whitepaper gives you good reasons why not to use it. The Only time I might be able to understand where it is being used is where you don't have the means to back up your system. Then again, if you don't have the means to back it up, then you shouldn't install it. So nix that last statement. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files Is anyone using circular logging? and if so, for what reason(s)? I just looked and saw that I was using it but was reading in the disaster recovery why it's good NOT to use it. Mike Circular logging = BAD on mailbox server 200 logs in one day? Couple of things that it could be but it sounds like you might have a Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message. Stephen -Original Message- From: Robert Williams To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 11/12/01 11:59 AM Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files I found this.so I will go with it PSS ID Number: Q240145 Article last modified on 10-10-1999 winnt:5.5 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
Need a bigger shovel, Ben? -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 11/12/01 2:21 PM Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files I guess I don't have a shred of credibility, eh Ben.. I'll have to remember that next time you call me for help[1] Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com [1] Ben and I work together.[2] [2] And he knows that in multiple server orgs there are times and places for enabling circular logging.[3] [3] Ben won't make this mistake again[4] [4] Hi SHerry!!! -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files You won't find anyone with a shred of credibility that is using circular logging. For the very reason that you mentioned. The DR Whitepaper gives you good reasons why not to use it. The Only time I might be able to understand where it is being used is where you don't have the means to back up your system. Then again, if you don't have the means to back it up, then you shouldn't install it. So nix that last statement. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files Is anyone using circular logging? and if so, for what reason(s)? I just looked and saw that I was using it but was reading in the disaster recovery why it's good NOT to use it. Mike Circular logging = BAD on mailbox server 200 logs in one day? Couple of things that it could be but it sounds like you might have a Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message. Stephen -Original Message- From: Robert Williams To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 11/12/01 11:59 AM Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files I found this.so I will go with it PSS ID Number: Q240145 Article last modified on 10-10-1999 winnt:5.5 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I need help with edb*.log files
Jeeze... Take him to one MEC and he goes all crazy on us... -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files Um, Ben - hello, Ben? You still there? I think you'd better get busy eating crow right about now. Don't you? Darcy Adams, MOS Sr. Exchange Administrator Getty Images 601 N. 34th Street Seattle, WA 98103 Tel 206-925-6617 Cell 206-255-0169 http://www.gettyimages.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files I guess I don't have a shred of credibility, eh Ben.. I'll have to remember that next time you call me for help[1] Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com [1] Ben and I work together.[2] [2] And he knows that in multiple server orgs there are times and places for enabling circular logging.[3] [3] Ben won't make this mistake again[4] [4] Hi SHerry!!! -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files You won't find anyone with a shred of credibility that is using circular logging. For the very reason that you mentioned. The DR Whitepaper gives you good reasons why not to use it. The Only time I might be able to understand where it is being used is where you don't have the means to back up your system. Then again, if you don't have the means to back it up, then you shouldn't install it. So nix that last statement. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: I need help with edb*.log files Is anyone using circular logging? and if so, for what reason(s)? I just looked and saw that I was using it but was reading in the disaster recovery why it's good NOT to use it. Mike Circular logging = BAD on mailbox server 200 logs in one day? Couple of things that it could be but it sounds like you might have a Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message. Stephen -Original Message- From: Robert Williams To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 11/12/01 11:59 AM Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files I found this.so I will go with it PSS ID Number: Q240145 Article last modified on 10-10-1999 winnt:5.5 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http
Re: I need help with edb*.log files
Circular logging should really only be used on a connector-only server where all data is transitory anyway. This does lessen the ability for an Enterprise-level DR, however. - Original Message - From: Mike Omilian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:28 PM Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files Is anyone using circular logging? and if so, for what reason(s)? I just looked and saw that I was using it but was reading in the disaster recovery why it's good NOT to use it. Mike Circular logging = BAD on mailbox server 200 logs in one day? Couple of things that it could be but it sounds like you might have a Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message. Stephen -Original Message- From: Robert Williams To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 11/12/01 11:59 AM Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files I found this.so I will go with it PSS ID Number: Q240145 Article last modified on 10-10-1999 winnt:5.5 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
