NDRs using Palm.net

2002-09-23 Thread Mike Koch

We're running Exchange 5.5 w/ SP4, in case that matters. I'm starting our
Exchange 2000 migration next week. Clients are various versions of Outlook,
from 97 through 2002.

I've got one user (a VP/lawyer) who uses a Palm device (model unknown at
this time) and the Palm.net wireless service to send email to both internal
and external recipients. By all accounts, his emails to external users of
services like Yahoo Mail or Hotmail work perfectly. However, email to
internal users, although delivered correctly, cannot be replied to - an NDR
is generated. When the recipient clicks on Reply (using any version of
Outlook), the To: field looks like: [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]. The
address IS valid, but Outlook/Exchange is attempting use the entire string
as an address (including the brackets and everything between them).

Is there anything I can do in Exchange to get it to parse the address
correctly, or is this strictly an issue with the configuration of his Palm?
I've never worked with Palms before, and I'm trying to avoid looking like an
idiot when I go up to speak with him. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Mike

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RE: NDRs using Palm.net

2002-09-23 Thread Dupler, Craig

I didn't see you get any replies.  Let me add a couple things, but I can't
claim to have THE answer.

First, I suspect that your address resolution description is not quite
right.  Client user interface do frequently display extraneous characters as
though the MTA was trying to parse them in error, but I think that if you
look at your server logs that you will see that Exchange did not make the
implied error when formulating an SMTP string either for passing to a relay
host or for use in DNS queries.  But check that - there is a first time for
everything.

Next, I suspect that the real problem is a domain error.   Also, you say
Outlook/Exchange is attempting . . .  That is not a fine enough
description of what is going on.  Generally, Outlook does not even try to
parse an address, unless it is an item from either the Outlook Contacts or a
PAB entry.  This should not be the case.  But, the next part of your
description does look like it is starting to get at the problem.

You say that the reply string looks like [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] and
not [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]!!!  Is that right?  If so, then I think
you are onto your answer.  At this point, yes it does matter whether or not
you are on E2k+AD or a non-AD previous version.  The common practice is for
UPN names to be SMTP strings that follow the form   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and to make certain that either your Exchange systems native SMTP addresses,
or an internal relay host (sometimes called a resolver) can perform a
delivery using the UPN.  Prior to E2K+AD, it was very common for the
situation to arise in which a person's display name in Exchange looked
nothing like a valid SMTP string.  You will have to sort this out, but if
your note is accurate, then I think you have assembled most of the critical
data required to solved your problem.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Koch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 6:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NDRs using Palm.net


We're running Exchange 5.5 w/ SP4, in case that matters. I'm starting our
Exchange 2000 migration next week. Clients are various versions of Outlook,
from 97 through 2002.

I've got one user (a VP/lawyer) who uses a Palm device (model unknown at
this time) and the Palm.net wireless service to send email to both internal
and external recipients. By all accounts, his emails to external users of
services like Yahoo Mail or Hotmail work perfectly. However, email to
internal users, although delivered correctly, cannot be replied to - an NDR
is generated. When the recipient clicks on Reply (using any version of
Outlook), the To: field looks like: [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]. The
address IS valid, but Outlook/Exchange is attempting use the entire string
as an address (including the brackets and everything between them).

Is there anything I can do in Exchange to get it to parse the address
correctly, or is this strictly an issue with the configuration of his Palm?
I've never worked with Palms before, and I'm trying to avoid looking like an
idiot when I go up to speak with him. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Mike

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