Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters

2003-09-24 Thread Neil Doody
I know this isn't an outlook support list, but I thought there must be
plenty of Outlook experts in an Exchange discussion list :p

The problem I'm having is that if I have rules set to move mails from
the inbox to other folders for some reason, this prevents the Junk Email
filters from working, and I would like to use the safe lists that are
built into Outlook 2003.


Anyone know a way around this?

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RE: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters

2003-09-24 Thread Wood, Harriet [CCS]
I would guess that the junk mail filters are using rules, and you might need to set 
Continue Processing Rules
But then if you've already filtered them are they junk? 

Harriet

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Sent: 24 September 2003 09:51
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Subject: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters


I know this isn't an outlook support list, but I thought there must be plenty of 
Outlook experts in an Exchange discussion list :p

The problem I'm having is that if I have rules set to move mails from the inbox to 
other folders for some reason, this prevents the Junk Email filters from working, and 
I would like to use the safe lists that are built into Outlook 2003.


Anyone know a way around this?

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RE: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters

2003-09-24 Thread Neil Doody
Well in outlook 2003, the junk rules are replaced with a built in filter
facility, a separate entry from normal rules.  The email is definintly
Junk, but I'm wanting to use the safe lists that are now built in.  With
safe lists all emails are moved to Junk Email unless the sender is on
your safe list.  The problem is if you have any other rules set to
move the emails it prevents the Junk Mail feature from working as it
should.  I have already turned off stop processing other rules.


Thanks for the help though :)


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From: Wood, Harriet [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 September 2003 10:48
To: Exchange Discussions

I would guess that the junk mail filters are using rules, and you might
need to set Continue Processing Rules But then if you've already
filtered them are they junk? 

Harriet

-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 September 2003 09:51
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Subject: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters


I know this isn't an outlook support list, but I thought there must be
plenty of Outlook experts in an Exchange discussion list :p

The problem I'm having is that if I have rules set to move mails from
the inbox to other folders for some reason, this prevents the Junk Email
filters from working, and I would like to use the safe lists that are
built into Outlook 2003.


Anyone know a way around this?

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RE: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters

2003-09-24 Thread Ben Schorr
Ah, you want to use the White list capability.  May I suggest instead
you just set Junk E-mail to High and use your usual rules.  That works
exceptionally well for me; I get maybe 2-3 spam in my mailbox a day.  I
get more than 150 in the Junk e-mail folder that I never have to deal
with.


-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Doody
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 00:00
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters

Well in outlook 2003, the junk rules are replaced with a built in filter
facility, a separate entry from normal rules.  The email is definintly
Junk, but I'm wanting to use the safe lists that are now built in.  With
safe lists all emails are moved to Junk Email unless the sender is on
your safe list.  The problem is if you have any other rules set to
move the emails it prevents the Junk Mail feature from working as it
should.  I have already turned off stop processing other rules.


Thanks for the help though :)


-Original Message-
From: Wood, Harriet [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 September 2003 10:48
To: Exchange Discussions

I would guess that the junk mail filters are using rules, and you might
need to set Continue Processing Rules But then if you've already
filtered them are they junk? 

Harriet

-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 September 2003 09:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters


I know this isn't an outlook support list, but I thought there must be
plenty of Outlook experts in an Exchange discussion list :p

The problem I'm having is that if I have rules set to move mails from
the inbox to other folders for some reason, this prevents the Junk Email
filters from working, and I would like to use the safe lists that are
built into Outlook 2003.


Anyone know a way around this?

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RE: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters

2003-09-24 Thread Neil Doody
Yah, but the problem is, even with my Junk E-mail set to High, my
usual rules are over-riding the built in Junk Filters of Outlook 2003.


So if I have my normal rules turned off, the Junk Mail filter works
well an moves mail from the inbox into the Junk Mail folder and leaves
none-junk in the Inbox.  If I have my rules turned on, these take
precedence and the mail is moved via the rule and the Junk is no longer
sorted out.  i.e. the rule moves the junk into the folder the rule has
specified, preventing the built in junk filters within outlook 2003 from
working. 


-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 September 2003 11:06
To: Exchange Discussions

Ah, you want to use the White list capability.  May I suggest instead
you just set Junk E-mail to High and use your usual rules.  That works
exceptionally well for me; I get maybe 2-3 spam in my mailbox a day.  I
get more than 150 in the Junk e-mail folder that I never have to deal
with.


-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Doody
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 00:00
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters

Well in outlook 2003, the junk rules are replaced with a built in filter
facility, a separate entry from normal rules.  The email is definintly
Junk, but I'm wanting to use the safe lists that are now built in.  With
safe lists all emails are moved to Junk Email unless the sender is on
your safe list.  The problem is if you have any other rules set to
move the emails it prevents the Junk Mail feature from working as it
should.  I have already turned off stop processing other rules.


Thanks for the help though :)


-Original Message-
From: Wood, Harriet [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 September 2003 10:48
To: Exchange Discussions

I would guess that the junk mail filters are using rules, and you might
need to set Continue Processing Rules But then if you've already
filtered them are they junk? 

Harriet

-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 September 2003 09:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters


I know this isn't an outlook support list, but I thought there must be
plenty of Outlook experts in an Exchange discussion list :p

The problem I'm having is that if I have rules set to move mails from
the inbox to other folders for some reason, this prevents the Junk Email
filters from working, and I would like to use the safe lists that are
built into Outlook 2003.


Anyone know a way around this?

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RE: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters

2003-09-24 Thread Chris Scharff
This was an explicit design decision based on client feedback during the
beta. The overwhelming response was, that if I have rules touching my
mail, it is for a reason, don't treat it as spam. Unfortunately it
appears that you are in the minority on this one, it's unlikely that the
behavior you see now will change anytime soon.

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From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:51 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters
Subject: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters

I know this isn't an outlook support list, but I thought there must be
plenty of Outlook experts in an Exchange discussion list :p

The problem I'm having is that if I have rules set to move mails from
the inbox to other folders for some reason, this prevents the Junk Email
filters from working, and I would like to use the safe lists that are
built into Outlook 2003.


Anyone know a way around this?

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RE: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters

2003-09-24 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Is it the order your rules are firing off in?

Since I don't have OL2003 yet, I'm not sure how this is configured yet, but
can you move the Junk Filters rule to the top of the list, so that it fires
off first?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters


Yah, but the problem is, even with my Junk E-mail set to High, my usual
rules are over-riding the built in Junk Filters of Outlook 2003.


So if I have my normal rules turned off, the Junk Mail filter works well
an moves mail from the inbox into the Junk Mail folder and leaves none-junk
in the Inbox.  If I have my rules turned on, these take precedence and the
mail is moved via the rule and the Junk is no longer sorted out.  i.e. the
rule moves the junk into the folder the rule has specified, preventing the
built in junk filters within outlook 2003 from working. 


-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 September 2003 11:06
To: Exchange Discussions

Ah, you want to use the White list capability.  May I suggest instead you
just set Junk E-mail to High and use your usual rules.  That works
exceptionally well for me; I get maybe 2-3 spam in my mailbox a day.  I get
more than 150 in the Junk e-mail folder that I never have to deal with.


-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Doody
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 00:00
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters

Well in outlook 2003, the junk rules are replaced with a built in filter
facility, a separate entry from normal rules.  The email is definintly Junk,
but I'm wanting to use the safe lists that are now built in.  With safe
lists all emails are moved to Junk Email unless the sender is on your safe
list.  The problem is if you have any other rules set to move the emails it
prevents the Junk Mail feature from working as it should.  I have already
turned off stop processing other rules.


Thanks for the help though :)


-Original Message-
From: Wood, Harriet [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 September 2003 10:48
To: Exchange Discussions

I would guess that the junk mail filters are using rules, and you might need
to set Continue Processing Rules But then if you've already filtered them
are they junk? 

Harriet

-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 September 2003 09:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters


I know this isn't an outlook support list, but I thought there must be
plenty of Outlook experts in an Exchange discussion list :p

The problem I'm having is that if I have rules set to move mails from the
inbox to other folders for some reason, this prevents the Junk Email filters
from working, and I would like to use the safe lists that are built into
Outlook 2003.


Anyone know a way around this?

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